freshboi88:


Oh u r back from the wilderness. Ur brother @CANTICLES said col 3:23 is Jesus belongs to God. I have finished tht 1.shame will not allow him come back to this thread.

@CANTICLES brother col 3:23 Jesus belongs to God..... hahahaha....this guy will not kill me with laugh.

The bible says those who worship God do so in spirit and truth. U all sure lack the spirit and the truth

It's obvious your Daddy GO and his cohorts surely have such spirit and truth!

CANTICLES:


I was just laughing when I saw him jumping the other time, now he saw the scripture .. E gentle. His claim now Is that Jesus belong to himself thats why he ran to Isaiah to make Jesus his own Father , when the bible says otherwise. Christ didn't belong to himself. He is someone property

Quote the verse and paste it here where the bible said Jesus belongs to God.

CANTICLES:


U are even calling him " SON " . and we all know a son has a beginning . uncreated but begotten , If an uncreated being can be begotten the Father would have been called begotten too , Can't u get the message ? , For you to be begotten means u have a start.

Isaiah doesnt change the Fact that Jesus is a son, begotten into existence .

An uncreated being cannot be our BROTHER .

Why is he called Everlasting Father?....

Jozzy4:


When freshboi88 sees that the bible call Jesus a belonging of the Father

So what bout us, we belong to Christ not God.......

freshboi88:


Why is he called Everlasting Father?....

Jesus is not same as the Father. 100% FACT: So which begs the question: who was made through the Father?

Begotten son. That single word has ended your gragra

freshboi88:


Quote the verse and paste it here where the bible said Jesus belongs to God.

1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Belong meaning property of the Father. So Jesus is part of the all things that Came from the Father.

freshboi88:


Why is he called Everlasting Father?....

All humans are descendants of Adam (the man who infected us all with sin, sickness and death){Romans 5:12} Jesus is our foster father who bought us with his own blood! Hebrew 9:12

So all obedient descendants of Adam will become adopted children of a new father who paid the ransom to redeem us from sin thus became our everlasting father who will never die again! Isaiah 9:6 compare to 1Corinthians 15:45

Get it into your empty skull!

@FRESHBOI88
Jesus didn't create Jesus. rather it was God who created Jesus. he is the firstborn of all creation and through him, everything was created. God is distinct from Jesus. just as God said, Jesus is his only begotten son because he is the only one to be created directly by God and God created every other thing through Jesus Christ. read the book of 1st Corinthians 15 vs 20-29. I pray you to get a grasp of the distinctiveness between them and How Jehovah is superior to Jesus

Damlovey:
@FRESHBOI88
Jesus didn't create Jesus. rather it was God who created Jesus. he is the firstborn of all creation and through him, everything was created. God is distinct from Jesus. just as God said, Jesus is his only begotten son because he is the only one to be created directly by God and God created every other thing through Jesus Christ. read the book of 1st Corinthians 15 vs 20-29. I pray you to get a grasp of the distinctiveness between them and How Jehovah is superior to Jesus

Even if Jesus should come back to tell him "the father is greater than the son" John 14:28

TRINITY has rendered him braindead so he can't grasp it!

No maximus69, No one is beyond redemption. I was once like him but I decided to be openminded and see the truth as it is

Maximus69:


Even if Jesus should come back to tell him "the father is greater than the son" John 14:28

TRINITY has rendered him braindead so he can't grasp it!

Damlovey:
No maximus69, No one is beyond redemption. I was once like him but I decided to be openminded and see the truth as it is

He hates the spirit of truth so i can say he's gone beyond redemption!

There are over 41,000 religious groups claiming Christians (alone), all these have different opinions and conflicting doctrines.

So the right question to know a sincere person is
"do all these 41,000 religions apart from Jehovah's Witnesses agreed that Jesus and Jehovah are the same person?"

Freshboi88 answered "NO"

OK if they're not in agreement over the issue, why do you have to single out only Jehovah's Witnesses as if this is the only group that disagree with your concept?

Freshboi88 became silent.

OK why not point to the FRUIT of holy spirit that Jesus promised will be the sign of true Christianity during the end time?

Freshboi88 ignored that.

OK can you point to the fruit of God's holy spirit in your own religion?

Freshboi88 got confused.

So i started showing him what God's word said about false prophets who comes in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Freshboi88 ignored and stared arguing blindly.

Please what Jesus said is "sin against God's holy spirit will not be forgiven"

Once you have seen the fruit of God's holy spirit in a group, and yours is not producing this fine fruit, whatever makes you remain in the fruitless group should mean you were caught unaware not when you now stand against what you can see with your own eyes!

Please what exactly was the sin of Satan, Adam and Eve in the beginning?

Is it not pitching their tent against the holy one of Israel?

What is the sign of holiness if not the fine works of the spirit that's missing in his RCCG Church?

Damlovey:
@FRESHBOI88
Jesus didn't create Jesus. rather it was God who created Jesus. he is the firstborn of all creation and through him, everything was created. God is distinct from Jesus. just as God said, Jesus is his only begotten son because he is the only one to be created directly by God and God created every other thing through Jesus Christ. read the book of 1st Corinthians 15 vs 20-29. I pray you to get a grasp of the distinctiveness between them and How Jehovah is superior to Jesus

All u have said are mere failed interpretation of scripture.

Let me lecture u small.

Jesus was both God’s Son (John 3:16) and God himself. Yes, He was fully man, but He was also fully God (Colossians 2:9).

col 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, (ESV)


18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

So the bible even tells u that Jesus calling God his Father is making himself equal with God. @ bolded. I bolded it so that u wouldn't say I'm d one that said it.

Not only did He claim to be God, but He also claimed to have the power of God.

He said He has the authority to judge the nations (Matthew 25:31-46).

He claims the authority to raise people from the dead (John 5:25-29) and to forgive sins (Mark 2:5-7)—things only God can do

1 Samuel 2:6
6 The Lord kills and brings to life;he brings down to Sheol and raises up. (ESV)

Isaiah 43:25
25 “I, I am hewho blots out your transgressions for my own sake,and I will not remember your sins. (ESV)

The New Testament equates Jesus to the creator of the universe (John 1:3) (col 1:16), and in John 16:15, He says, “All that belongs to the Father is mine.”

Really all that belongs to the Father is mine. A created being will say this?.....

He said and showed many times that He is the Lord. Jesus says, for example, that He is “the first and the last” (Revelation 1:17, 22:13),

Rev 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last,

Revelation 22:13
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” (ESV)

These is how God the Father calls himself in Isaiah 44:6.

Isaiah 44:6
Besides Me There Is No God

6 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israeland his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: [b]“I am the first and I am the last [b] ;besides me there is no other God .

Notice Jesus uses the exact same description for himself.

God has shown Himself to us in three ways—as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Each has a separate function—and yet they are all united as one God.


Read this carefully

What they actually believe is that jesus was created directly by Jehovah while everything else was created through jesus

Maximus69:


He hates the spirit of truth so i can say he's gone beyond redemption!

There are over 41,000 religious groups claiming Christians (alone), all these have different opinions and conflicting doctrines.

So the right question to know a sincere person is
"do all these 41,000 religions apart from Jehovah's Witnesses agreed that Jesus and Jehovah are the same person?"

Freshboi88 answered "NO"

OK if they're not in agreement over the issue, why do you have to single out only Jehovah's Witnesses as if this is the only group that disagree with your concept?

Freshboi88 became silent.

OK why not point to the FRUIT of holy spirit that Jesus promised will be the sign of true Christianity during the end time?

Freshboi88 ignored that.

OK can you point to the fruit of God's holy spirit in your own religion?

Freshboi88 got confused.

So i started showing him what God's word said about false prophets who comes in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Freshboi88 ignored and stared arguing blindly.

Please what Jesus said is "sin against God's holy spirit will not be forgiven"

Once you have seen the fruit of God's holy spirit in a group, and yours is not producing this fine fruit, whatever makes you remain in the fruitless group should mean you were caught unaware not when you now stand against what you can see with your own eyes!

Please what exactly was the sin of Satan, Adam and Eve in the beginning?

Is it not pitching their tent against the holy one of Israel?

What is the sign of holiness if not the fine works of the spirit that's missing in his RCCG Church?

How can someone gather all the rubbish in this world in a reply. Sad. U didn't make sense sorry

Maximus69:


All humans are descendants of Adam (the man who infected us all with sin, sickness and death){Romans 5:12} Jesus is our foster father who bought us with his own blood! Hebrew 9:12

So all obedient descendants of Adam will become adopted children of a new father who paid the ransom to redeem us from sin thus became our everlasting father who will never die again! Isaiah 9:6 compare to 1Corinthians 15:45

Get it into your empty skull!

Jesus has become a foster father......he is no longer our brother....bros u no get sense rara

CANTICLES:


1 Corinthians 3:23 " Christ belongs to God "

Belong meaning property of the Father. So Jesus is part of the all things that Came from the Father.

John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.


C as this verse don mumu u

English Standard Version
John 16:15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

This verse ends this arguement. This verse exposes all the lies u guys have told here. Please explain this all Jwit

freshboi88:


Jesus has become a foster father......he is no longer our brother....bros u no get sense rara

Go and question Isaiah who prophesied that the Messiah (Christ)
He referred to the same person as
©A son
©Wonder Counselor
©Mighty God
©Everlasting Father
©Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6}

It's you that singled out the fourth title and asked for the reason why the Messiah will be entitled as everlasting father, so because you just want everyone to think your TRINITY doctrine makes sense, you don't want to reckon with the other titles!

However you've asked the question and you've gotten the answer, but it's not only for you millions of the lost sheep of the house of Israel are following this thread. So they can see that Jesus was given so many titles and the titles has practical applications, if you feel it doesn't make sense, millions of people can see the works of the Prince of Peace amongst Jehovah's Witnesses (that's missing in RCCG)!

Maximus69:


Go and question Isaiah who prophesied that the Messiah (Christ)
He referred to the same person as
©A son
©Wonder Counselor
©Mighty God
©Everlasting Father
©Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6}

It's you that singled out the fourth title and asked for the reason why the Messiah will be entitled as everlasting father, so because you just want everyone to think your TRINITY doctrine makes sense, you don't want to reckon with the other titles!

However you've asked the question and you've gotten the answer, but it's not only for you millions of the lost sheep of the house of Israel are following this thread. So they can see that Jesus was given so many titles and the titles has practical applications, if you feel it doesn't make sense, millions of people can see the works of the Prince of Peace amongst Jehovah's Witnesses (that's missing in RCCG)!

I singled it out because that's the bone of contention here. I agree he is the Son of God.
But he is also the Everlasting Father and Mighty God. Or u didn't see that Isaiah called Jesus God?.


How about this one


John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are [b]Mine[b]. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

Bros with this verse it's checkmate. Jesus was not created. Stop peddling false doctrine and study ur bible

Damlovey:
No maximus69, No one is beyond redemption. I was once like him but I decided to be openminded and see the truth as it is

Ur decision to be open minded was the biggest mistake u made in Ur life. Study ur bible get the truth urself


John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

@bolded in ur heart of heart, is this a statement that a created being would make?

freshboi88:


I singled it out because that's the bone of contention here. I agree he is the Son of God.
But he is also the Everlasting Father and Mighty God. Or u didn't see that Isaiah called Jesus God?.
How about this one
John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
Bros with this verse it's checkmate. Jesus was not created. Stop peddling false doctrine and study ur bible

False doctrine that's working out LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst those who held onto it {James 2:18-26} whereas your Daddy GO and his own cohorts whom you say have taught you correct doctrines are trying to kill one another shey?

You sabi no be small Sir!

Maximus69:


False doctrine that's working out LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst those who held onto it {James 2:18-26} whereas your Daddy GO and his own cohorts whom you say have taught you correct doctrines are trying to kill one another shey?

You sabi no be small Sir!

I can c u have no answer to John 16:15. U will sleep sad tonight.

freshboi88:


Ur decision to be open minded was the biggest mistake u made in Ur life. Study ur bible get the truth urself


John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

@bolded in ur heart of heart, is this a statement that a created being would make?

The only begotten son of Abraham (Isaac) became the heir to all that belongs to Abraham (his father) does that means Isaac wasn't born? Colossians 1:15

freshboi88:


I can c u have no answer to John 16:15. U will sleep sad tonight.

Sleep sad because your Daddy GO is running away from his fellow Pastors who wants to kill him shey?

Maximus69:


Sleep sad because your Daddy GO is running away from his fellow Pastors who wants to kill him shey?

John 5:17-18

17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”

Jesus Is Equal with God

18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

The bible says Jesus made himself equal to God by saying he is the Son of God.

Jehovah Witness says no, it means he is created and not God. Do u c their foolishness.

I have unearthed their deceit and lies. My people shine ur eyes o. There are deceivers out there n if u r not grounded in the bible they will twist the Word of God to suit their sinister agenda.

Maximus69:


Sleep sad because your Daddy GO is running away from his fellow Pastors who wants to kill him shey?

Leave pastor Adeboye. Do u know tht Jesus calling himself the Son of God was Jesus equating himself to God


18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

freshboi88:


Leave pastor Adeboye. Do u know tht Jesus calling himself the Son of God was Jesus equating himself to God


18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

I can see that you're going to sleep happily this night but try not to make multiple response to the same post Sir!

Maximus69:

The only begotten son of Abraham (Isaac) became the heir to all that belongs to Abraham (his father) does that means Isaac wasn't born? Colossians 1:15

15 All things that the Father has are Mine. ]Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

So did Abraham also take of what is Isaacs and declare it to u or Sarah or his other children.....

I will cure Ur mumuness today

Maximus69:


I can see that you're going to sleep happily this night but try not to make multiple response to the same post Sir!

It's checkmate dude. It's clear. Jesus is God.

I understand since u have been defeated there's nothing to say, it's my multiple post that is now a problem

freshboi88:


Romans 11:35. Shows Jesus is God.

36. Affirms that 35 is referring to Jesus cos For from him and through him and for him are all things. This same verse is referenced in John 1::4, col 1:16 which pointed to Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 3 proves nothing... remember 1 God but three persons, same in form, essence and nature.The Father comes first in the hierarchy, then The Son[quote author=freshboi88 post=89041972]


Jesus Is Equal with God

18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

The bible says Jesus made himself equal to God by saying he is the Son of God.

Jehovah Witness says no, it means he is created and not God. Do u c their foolishness.

I have unearthed their deceit and lies. My people shine ur eyes o. There are deceivers out there n if u r not grounded in the bible they will twist the Word of God to suit their sinister agenda.

Freshboi88 is suffering from SELECTIVE AMNESIA.. He no even fit remember the LIES he done blow for here before.... .

Does Freshboi88 really mean that himself is equal to God when Freshboi88 calls God his own Father? .
Freshboi88 is making FALSE CLAIM @ John5:18.
Na Him talent.
John 19:7 King James Version (KJV)
"7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God"

In the holy Bible- John10:36.Jn 19:7.Jn 14:28 , Jesus Christ says FRESHBOI88 is a confirmed LIAR.

freshboi88:



15 All things that the Father has are Mine. ]Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

freshboi88:


I can c u have no answer to John 16:15. U will sleep sad tonight.

Freshboi is sounding as if Jesus Christ is a coup plotter

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

John 10:29.
[b]My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; [/b]and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand…

Jehovah is the OWNER of Jesus Christ and the disciples, 1 Cor 3:23.
Jesus says "my Father is GREATER THAN ALL"

Freshboi a special talent for TWISTING the words of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 3: 5
" He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels."


Jesus will definitely be ashamed to write Freshboi name in the book of Life in front of his Father in heaven

Freshboi88 RECEIVE SENSE !

freshboi88:


Why is he called Everlasting Father?....

1 Cor15:20-22

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

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Because of sin, Adam our first Father brought death to Man (instead of Everlasting Life). Romans 5:12.

Jesus died for us and God raised up Jesus ,so Jesus will give Everlasting Life to Man., therefore Jesus is the last Adam 1 Cor15:20-22,45. The same reason Jesus is called "Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6.
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1 Cor 15:24-28
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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Jehovah God gave Jesus authority and power to Destroy death forever, bringing Everlasting Life to obedient mankind in God's kingdom.
Jesus the Last Adam is a spirit and King in heaven APPOINTED by God to give Everlasting life, replacing Adam as our Everlasting Father.
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1 Cor 15:45
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a giving spirit."

Jesus Christ is the Last Adam and Everlasting Father.

Issa simple sturvs