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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by Nobody: 8:09am On May 01, 2020
RichDad1:
What’s so special about ASUU or university lecturers generally?
Is it not to work and be paid your salary??

Honestly , I believe [s]civil servants contributed to the decay in this country more than politicians.[/s] They’re willing to frustrate any plans to make them accountable.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by sinkhole: 8:15am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:


I so agree with you.

yes, they are not doing anything illegal, doesn't mean, they are not doing it wrong though.
yes, some lecturers are doing it very wrong!
Some lecturers constantly travel between several states just to visit.
Let us even leave the qualities of their output, let us consider their own personal issues: at this period in Nigeria, they could be kidnapped, roads are not good they could have accident, what of fatigue to their own body? Many of them die prematurely because of overstretching their bodies!
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by TopeQs: 8:15am On May 01, 2020
jesmond3945:
you forget that when a lecturer has part time jobs it has to do with expertise. How many people can do the work of publish or perish? Lecturers are not being employed in the system and everyday we hear of new departments and you expect one lecturer to be teaching in more than one department because of lack of lecturers in a particular area of expertise. When you are in the system you would understand. You expect UI to pick a market woman to come and teach Computer vision when they can pick one full time lecturer from futo as adjunct. It is only in Nigeria that students are fed knowledge like babies that's why you cannot innovate anything. All over the world students teach themselves. The lecturer is just a guide.


I like how you explained your view, you prolly read a wrong meaning to what I meant, I'm not saying they should pick up someone from market na, common, we have people without jobs who are vast in a lot of things... educated people.

even those interested in lecturing.

but the government rarely recruit new lecturers, you won't even see the advert, you'll just hear of an opening and before you get to know more, the slot has been filled.

note: I'm not saying the adjunct needs to be abolished, I'm just saying they need to regulate it more, through a transparent means.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by TopeQs: 8:17am On May 01, 2020
sinkhole:
yes, some lecturers are doing it very wrong!
Some lecturers constantly travel between several states just to visit.
Let us even leave the qualities of their output, let us consider their own personal issues: at this period in Nigeria, they could be kidnapped, roads are not good they could have accident, what of fatigue to their own body? Many of them die prematurely because of overstretching their bodies!

exactly, I couldn't agree more.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by eagleeye2: 8:19am On May 01, 2020
Why did this thread derail so much? SSANU complained about irregularities in the IPPIS, but most people are here attacking ASUU.
If you people can't read, why not just jump and pass?

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by justt: 8:21am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:
wow....

just forget, even "senior" staffs don't know how not to show their selfish interest. IPPIS is just a way to curb staffs from collecting salary from more than one avenue, I don't know much about the senior staff but let me talk about the academic staff.

Let me paint a scenario for you, most federal Universities has a part time lecturer that has a full time job in another university, this is not bad but look at the case of some lecturers that go for part time lectures in as much as 3-4 other institutions, this way they are even making 3-4 people jobless because that could have been a job for fresh graduates.

I believe the IPPIS is meant to cover just one more visiting apart from your salary, ASUU will never tell you this but I will, those lecturers that have 2-3 part-time lecturing job will not want IPPIS because it will block the salary of the part-time job.
I can tell you that I know of a lecturer that has 4 part time lecturing job in another federal university, please, how will such a person have time for his own full time job, he will be joggling within states just to meet the other while not being able to put a focus on any of them, I was taught by one of them and he never had our time, then we run marathon class so as to cover up for his absenteeism.

ASUU are just motivated by selfish interest, they will never tell you this, this is not the first time that the government is changing their payment system, and it's not like their salary will be reduced, it is just those with too much of an extra work that will be affect.

the IPPIS was introduced to create transparency, yes, there are irregularities but that can definitely be sorted with time.

it is only the government that can be castigated by changing the way they want to pay their staff, could that happen to a private firm?

ponder on this.

If only you can be a bit more objective in your appraisal of the situation on ground! Firstly, the issue is about SSANU not ASUU and so the question you should ask yourself is: are SSANU members also working in multiple places like academic staff?

If SSANU is regretting its action now, shouldn't that be reason for any reasonable individual to reconsider this IPPIS issue? No, you will not do that. Apparently, you have been looking for an opportunity to rubbish ASUU just like others who are perpetually blinded to the truth!

I can't even sympathize with SSANU because their lack of cooperation with the academic staff brought them to this situation. The point is there is actually no hope for any country that rubbishes its intellectuals.

Now, let's look at your ridiculous claims of knowing of an academic staff working in up to 4 universities. Yes, let's work with your maximum of 4 and let's assume the worst scenario that this staff is a professor (because professor earns the highest salary). Let's also assume his salary is N500K. Mind you, most professors who earn up to this are already old and can barely run around as you claim.

With these four universities, this means your hypothetical and omnipresent lecturer is earning 2 million naira monthly. Actually, the man is earning 1.5M extra since he's entitled to one salary, at least.

Now, what you fail to realize is that almost 70% or more universities where lecturers do part-time jobs are either private or state universities and IPPIS cannot prevent that! I hope the picture is getting very clear to you? You seriously betrayed yourself by claiming your lecturer is working in four different federal universities! That claim is untrue and nothing but just the figment of your own biased imagination to mislead the ignorants like yourself.

This is what you and other members of the populace have not been told. IPPIS cannot and will not stop payment from state and private universities! So, what's the fuss all about? What's the total number of lecturers having multiple salaries from the the almighty FG?

Let's wake up and be realistic! The fight of ASUU is not just for her purse. The FG is not sincere and cannot be trusted. Thank God SSANU is getting to know that albeit somehow late. Once, the FG succeeds in subduing ASUU (God forbids), I'm afraid, the dying federal universities will be finally buried.

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by GENTLETEE(m): 8:21am On May 01, 2020
It is a little too late now. They should go and leak their wounds.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jesmond3945: 8:23am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:



I like how you explained your view, you prolly read a wrong meaning to what I meant, I'm not saying they should pick up someone from market na, common, we have people without jobs who are vast in a lot of things... educated people.

even those interested in lecturing.

but the government rarely recruit new lecturers, you won't even see the advert, you'll just hear of an opening and before you get to know more, the slot has been filled.
You don't pick people because they are educated, you pick people because of expertise and training(PhD). How many Nigerians have a PhD or are willing to have?
How many Nigerians have publications or conference presentations in International events?
If you are interested in lecturing then have publications, have a master's degree even complete a PhD, teach for some time then you would be qualified to be a visiting lecturer. A University cannot pick you because you are interested in lecturing.
They do advertise, check guardian newspaper but the requirements are lofty.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by Peppermintflav: 8:29am On May 01, 2020
This back and forth argument
My question is if visiting lecturers are paid by the universities through IGR... why are they not willing to submit their BVN to federal govt?
Since they are receiving full salary from only one source?
Theres something ASUU is not telling us.
I think most lecturers are drawing full pay from 2 or more universities, thats why they dont want to submit their BVN.
Remember FG found out 70thousand ghost workers during registration of non academic staff.
Im just wondering how many ghost workers will be fished out if ASUU should aubmit their BVN.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by Realist2: 8:31am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:
wow....

just forget, even "senior" staffs don't know how not to show their selfish interest. IPPIS is just a way to curb staffs from collecting salary from more than one avenue, I don't know much about the senior staff but let me talk about the academic staff.

Let me paint a scenario for you, most federal Universities has a part time lecturer that has a full time job in another university, this is not bad but look at the case of some lecturers that go for part time lectures in as much as 3-4 other institutions, this way they are even making 3-4 people jobless because that could have been a job for fresh graduates.

I believe the IPPIS is meant to cover just one more visiting apart from your salary, ASUU will never tell you this but I will, those lecturers that have 2-3 part-time lecturing job will not want IPPIS because it will block the salary of the part-time job.
I can tell you that I know of a lecturer that has 4 part time lecturing job in another federal university, please, how will such a person have time for his own full time job, he will be joggling within states just to meet the other while not being able to put a focus on any of them, I was taught by one of them and he never had our time, then we run marathon class so as to cover up for his absenteeism.

ASUU are just motivated by selfish interest, they will never tell you this, this is not the first time that the government is changing their payment system, and it's not like their salary will be reduced, it is just those with too much of an extra work that will be affect.

the IPPIS was introduced to create transparency, yes, there are irregularities but that can definitely be sorted with time.

it is only the government that can be castigated by changing the way they want to pay their staff, could that happen to a private firm?

ponder on this.


modified again: to some of the people quoting me, if you can't quote without starting your sentence or including an insult, then you should be so ashamed of yourself.

I'm not supporting any manipulation, I'm just saying that some workers bite more than they can chew and that's why some don't want the IPPIS, I'm not saying all, I've spoken with a lot of lecturers about the IPPIS and most of them give me this same reason as why most of them wouldn't join the IPPIS.

I know of those who joined since and have gotten their salary, no reduction that they are shouting about.

Stop typing what you don't know much about.

Do know that IPPIS does not take into consideration some unique allowances of Universities?, do you know that IPPIS does not accept visiting lecturing for more than one University, where as for some courses to be accredited by NUC you need more professors, senior lecturers, Readers, associate professors?, where can you get the manpower needed considering our teaming youths seeking admission all over Nigeria?
Do you do know that IPPIS deduct money for National housing scheme and other schemes even when lecturers are not enrolled in the schemes.
Do know that IPPIS does not make provision for promotions I.e You are stagnant in the level that you are captured. A certain Vice Chancellor was paid 57k as salary in February
There are many other issues with IPPIS if don't know just keep your mouth shut

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jaxxy(m): 8:31am On May 01, 2020
When a govt can not be trusted at any level it's a very funny thing
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by TopeQs: 8:32am On May 01, 2020
justt:


If only you can be a bit more objective in your appraisal of the situation on ground! Firstly, the issue is about SSANU not ASUU and so the question you should ask yourself is: are SSANU members also working in multiple places like academic staff?

If SSANU is regretting its action now, shouldn't that be reason for any reasonable individual to reconsider this IPPIS issue? No, you will not do that. Apparently, you have been looking for an opportunity to rubbish ASUU just like others who are perpetually blinded to the truth!

I can't even sympathize with SSANU because their lack of cooperation with the academic staff brought them to this situation. The point is there is actually no hope for any country that rubbishes its intellectuals.

Now, let's look at your ridiculous claims of knowing of an academic staff working in up to 4 universities. Yes, let's work with your maximum of 4 and let's assume the worst scenario that this staff is a professor (because professor earns the highest salary). Let's also assume his salary is N500K. Mind you, most professors who earn up to this are already old and can barely run around as you claim.

With these four universities, this means your hypothetical and omnipresent lecturer is earning 2 million naira monthly. Actually, the man is earning 1.5M extra since he's entitled to one salary, at least.

Now, what you fail to realize is that almost 70% or more universities where lecturers do part-time jobs are either private or state universities and IPPIS cannot prevent that! I hope the picture is getting very clear to you? You seriously betrayed yourself by claiming your lecturer is working in four different federal universities! That claim is untrue and nothing but just the figment of your own biased imagination to mislead the ignorants like yourself.

This is what you and other members of the populace have not been told. IPPIS cannot and will not stop payment from state and private universities! So, what's the fuss all about? What's the total number of lecturers having multiple salaries from the the almighty FG?

Let's wake up and be realistic! The fight of ASUU is not just for her purse. The FG is not sincere and cannot be trusted. Thank God SSANU is getting to know that albeit somehow late. Once, the FG succeeds in subduing ASUU (God forbids), I'm afraid, the dying federal universities will be finally buried.

I only quote you because you seem to have an issue understanding what I wrote.. so re-read again, this time slowly. when you're done, re-quote me and this time, choose your words wisely, I'm not a kid that you could talk to as you please.


yes, I know a lecturer doing the part-time thing.in 4 different university, no imagination whatsoever, it's true.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by gbengadada2004(m): 8:35am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:
[s]wow....

just forget, even "senior" staffs don't know how not to show their selfish interest. IPPIS is just a way to curb staffs from collecting salary from more than one avenue, I don't know much about the senior staff but let me talk about the academic staff.

Let me paint a scenario for you, most federal Universities has a part time lecturer that has a full time job in another university, this is not bad but look at the case of some lecturers that go for part time lectures in as much as 3-4 other institutions, this way they are even making 3-4 people jobless because that could have been a job for fresh graduates.

I believe the IPPIS is meant to cover just one more visiting apart from your salary, ASUU will never tell you this but I will, those lecturers that have 2-3 part-time lecturing job will not want IPPIS because it will block the salary of the part-time job.
I can tell you that I know of a lecturer that has 4 part time lecturing job in another federal university, please, how will such a person have time for his own full time job, he will be joggling within states just to meet the other while not being able to put a focus on any of them, I was taught by one of them and he never had our time, then we run marathon class so as to cover up for his absenteeism.

ASUU are just motivated by selfish interest, they will never tell you this, this is not the first time that the government is changing their payment system, and it's not like their salary will be reduced, it is just those with too much of an extra work that will be affect.

the IPPIS was introduced to create transparency, yes, there are irregularities but that can definitely be sorted with time.

it is only the government that can be castigated by changing the way they want to pay their staff, could that happen to a private firm?

ponder on this.


modified again: to some of the people quoting me, if you can't quote without starting your sentence or including an insult, then you should be so ashamed of yourself.

I'm not supporting any manipulation, I'm just saying that some workers bite more than they can chew and that's why some don't want the IPPIS, I'm not saying all, I've spoken with a lot of lecturers about the IPPIS and most of them give me this same reason as why most of them wouldn't join the IPPIS.

I know of tho[b]se who joined since and have gotten their salary, no reduction that they are shouting about.
[/s]
Why can't you just take your time to understand the content of the post before typing? The article is about SSANU and not ASUU. The two are not the same. SSANU has keyed in to IPPIS and they are now regretting doing so. This is unlike ASUU that is kicking against it. SSANU members are non-academic staffs in Nigerian universities. They don't do part time job elsewhere. They are not lecturers what made up ASUU. The fact that non-academic staffs who have registered for IPPIS are now regretting their action should tell every right thinking person that ASUU has a good reason for being sceptical about it.

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by TopeQs: 8:37am On May 01, 2020
jesmond3945:

You don't pick people because they are educated, you pick people because of expertise and training(PhD). How many Nigerians have a PhD or are willing to have?
How many Nigerians have publications or conference presentations in International events?
If you are interested in lecturing then have publications, have a master's degree even complete a PhD, teach for some time then you would be qualified to be a visiting lecturer. A University cannot pick you because you are interested in lecturing.
They do advertise, check guardian newspaper but the requirements are lofty.

you stated really good points, I really wanted to learn with this and I did, thank you.

it isn't easy but we'll get there.

you know a lot of lecturers start with their bachelor's degree, can you explain to me why that is, since you stated good points, it doesn't seem the government follow what you said, or am I missing something?
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by TopeQs: 8:38am On May 01, 2020
jaxxy:
When a govt can not be trusted at any level it's a very funny thing
my brother, that seems to be that case ooo....

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by yinchar(m): 8:48am On May 01, 2020
gbengadada2004:

Why can't you just take your time to understand the content of the post before typing? The article is about SSANU and not ASUU. The two are not the same. SSANU has keyed in to IPPIS and they are now regretting doing so. This is unlike ASUU that is kicking against it. SSANU members are non-academic staffs in Nigerian universities. They don't do part time job elsewhere. They are not lecturers what made up ASUU. The fact that non-academic staffs who have registered for IPPIS are now regretting their action should tell every right thinking person that ASUU has a good reason for being sceptical about it.

Give this guy a breathing space.

What he said was still relevant in this context.

However, if the IPPIS is not currently perfect, why can’t SSANU and ASUU come out with recommendations to make it better.

We can’t just throw away the baby with the bath water.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by yinchar(m): 8:51am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:


I only quote you because you seem to have an issue understanding what I wrote.. so re-read again, this time slowly. when you're done, re-quote me and this time, choose your words wisely, I'm not a kid that you could talk to as you please.


yes, I know a lecturer doing the part-time thing.in 4 different university, no imagination whatsoever, it's true.

Mr Tope, this is a faceless forum - it’s not by age or maturity.

Attack the message not the messenger.

Peace out.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by gbengadada2004(m): 9:00am On May 01, 2020
yinchar:


Give this guy a breathing space.

What he said was still relevant in this context.

However, if the IPPIS is not currently perfect, why can’t SSANU and ASUU come out with recommendations to make it better.

We can’t just throw away the baby with the bath water.

ASUU has already developed their own version of IPPIS that takes care of their peculiarities. Waiting for FG to validate and accept it
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by edoairways: 9:06am On May 01, 2020
AAA593:
And the small children for nairaland go dey insult ASUU every minutes. Wetin dem no even understand
Don't mind those ignorant monikers
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by thundafire: 9:10am On May 01, 2020
AAA593:
And the small children for nairaland go dey insult ASUU every minutes. Wetin dem no even understand
ASSU are fighting so dat,der money from different federal Universities will be entering der account all in the name of visiting lecturers and yet will want der exact salary from the same government ok,let them give der BVN number dey are protesting
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by thundafire: 9:11am On May 01, 2020
Mubbyleey:
Why wouldn't they say that when both SSANU & ASUU are so overwhelmed with fraud... Bunch of fraudsters!!!
real fraudsters

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Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by AAA593: 9:13am On May 01, 2020
thundafire:
ASSU are fighting so dat,der money from different federal Universities will be entering der account all in the name of visiting lecturers and yet will want der exact salary from the same government ok,let them give der BVN number dey are protesting
Pikin ooooo
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by edoairways: 9:14am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:
wow....

just forget, even "senior" staffs don't know how not to show their selfish interest. IPPIS is just a way to curb staffs from collecting salary from more than one avenue, I don't know much about the senior staff but let me talk about the academic staff.

Let me paint a scenario for you, most federal Universities has a part time lecturer that has a full time job in another university, this is not bad but look at the case of some lecturers that go for part time lectures in as much as 3-4 other institutions, this way they are even making 3-4 people jobless because that could have been a job for fresh graduates.

I believe the IPPIS is meant to cover just one more visiting apart from your salary, ASUU will never tell you this but I will, those lecturers that have 2-3 part-time lecturing job will not want IPPIS because it will block the salary of the part-time job.
I can tell you that I know of a lecturer that has 4 part time lecturing job in another federal university, please, how will such a person have time for his own full time job, he will be joggling within states just to meet the other while not being able to put a focus on any of them, I was taught by one of them and he never had our time, then we run marathon class so as to cover up for his absenteeism.

ASUU are just motivated by selfish interest, they will never tell you this, this is not the first time that the government is changing their payment system, and it's not like their salary will be reduced, it is just those with too much of an extra work that will be affect.

the IPPIS was introduced to create transparency, yes, there are irregularities but that can definitely be sorted with time.

it is only the government that can be castigated by changing the way they want to pay their staff, could that happen to a private firm?

ponder on this.


modified again: to some of the people quoting me, if you can't quote without starting your sentence or including an insult, then you should be so ashamed of yourself.

I'm not supporting any manipulation, I'm just saying that some workers bite more than they can chew and that's why some don't want the IPPIS, I'm not saying all, I've spoken with a lot of lecturers about the IPPIS and most of them give me this same reason as why most of them wouldn't join the IPPIS.

I know of those who joined since and have gotten their salary, no reduction that they are shouting about.

There are others whose allowances reduced since they join, they are not teaching in more two universities
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by edoairways: 9:16am On May 01, 2020
gbengadada2004:

Why can't you just take your time to understand the content of the post before typing? The article is about SSANU and not ASUU. The two are not the same. SSANU has keyed in to IPPIS and they are now regretting doing so. This is unlike ASUU that is kicking against it. SSANU members are non-academic staffs in Nigerian universities. They don't do part time job elsewhere. They are not lecturers what made up ASUU. The fact that non-academic staffs who have registered for IPPIS are now regretting their action should tell every right thinking person that ASUU has a good reason for being sceptical about it.
Exactly!
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by Ericraymond01(m): 9:26am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:
wow....

just forget, even "senior" staffs don't know how not to show their selfish interest. IPPIS is just a way to curb staffs from collecting salary from more than one avenue, I don't know much about the senior staff but let me talk about the academic staff.

Let me paint a scenario for you, most federal Universities has a part time lecturer that has a full time job in another university, this is not bad but look at the case of some lecturers that go for part time lectures in as much as 3-4 other institutions, this way they are even making 3-4 people jobless because that could have been a job for fresh graduates.

I believe the IPPIS is meant to cover just one more visiting apart from your salary, ASUU will never tell you this but I will, those lecturers that have 2-3 part-time lecturing job will not want IPPIS because it will block the salary of the part-time job.
I can tell you that I know of a lecturer that has 4 part time lecturing job in another federal university, please, how will such a person have time for his own full time job, he will be joggling within states just to meet the other while not being able to put a focus on any of them, I was taught by one of them and he never had our time, then we run marathon class so as to cover up for his absenteeism.

ASUU are just motivated by selfish interest, they will never tell you this, this is not the first time that the government is changing their payment system, and it's not like their salary will be reduced, it is just those with too much of an extra work that will be affect.

the IPPIS was introduced to create transparency, yes, there are irregularities but that can definitely be sorted with time.

it is only the government that can be castigated by changing the way they want to pay their staff, could that happen to a private firm?

ponder on this.


modified again: to some of the people quoting me, if you can't quote without starting your sentence or including an insult, then you should be so ashamed of yourself.

I'm not supporting any manipulation, I'm just saying that some workers bite more than they can chew and that's why some don't want the IPPIS, I'm not saying all, I've spoken with a lot of lecturers about the IPPIS and most of them give me this same reason as why most of them wouldn't join the IPPIS.

I know of those who joined since and have gotten their salary, no reduction that they are shouting about.



ASSU are just for their selfish interest. Trying to dictate for your employer. The should wake up to the reality that the federal government will never go back on their decision. My brother has enrolled on IPPIS and his salary comes steady with no wahala. Over 78% and still counting have enrolled, the rest should remain there.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by CalebLebsco56(m): 9:33am On May 01, 2020
Personally most lecturers are running from this IPPIS scheme coz it will affect them....
Most of these lecturers still lecture at other universities. Blocking space for unemployed persons..are you saying the whole of Nigeria therez no one that can take their own specialization when they are not there?
Personally i support the scheme, back then during our undergraduate days, you will find out through a semester a lecturer comes to class not often..if we ask class rep he will he has travel, travel,travel....alwys not around till close to exams time the man will just come nd be doing Crash programme...rush rush rush..without any proper research
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jesmond3945: 9:35am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:


you stated really good points, I really wanted to learn with this and I did, thank you.

it isn't easy but we'll get there.

you know a lot of lecturers start with their bachelor's degree, can you explain to me why that is, since you stated good points, it doesn't seem the government follow what you said, or am I missing something?
The government doesn't want to listen, just like all the sectors of the economy are bleeding from lack of funds, they want to destroy the last hope we have which is education.
Yes, a person with bsc can only be a graduate assistant and not a lecturer. Before you become a lecturer, you have to get a master's and teach for sometime. Then if you want to do part time or adjunct or visiting, then get a PhD, publish and teach for sometime. Note that you have to publish in a particular area of knowledge which would make you an expert in that area. The other Universities would pick you because they need a lecturer/expert in that particular area.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jesmond3945: 9:38am On May 01, 2020
CalebLebsco56:
Personally most lecturers are running from this IPPIS scheme coz it will affect them....
Most of these lecturers still lecture at other universities. Blocking space for unemployed persons..are you saying the whole of Nigeria therez no one that can take their own specialization when they are not there?
Personally i support the scheme, back then during our undergraduate days, you will find out through a semester a lecturer comes to class not often..if we ask class rep he will he has travel, travel,travel....alwys not around till close to exams time the man will just come nd be doing Crash programme...rush rush rush..without any proper research
specialization? when you have not published or taught or trained up to a PhD level in that area? Do you know what it can do to the accreditation of such a course in the University?
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by CalebLebsco56(m): 9:39am On May 01, 2020
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ASSU are just for their selfish interest. Trying to dictate for your employer. The should wake up to the reality that the federal government will never go back on their decision. My brother has enrolled on IPPIS and his salary comes steady with no wahala. Over 78% and still counting have enrolled, the rest should remain there.

True...if they like let them dont enroll..enuf is enuf..its only strike they know for their selfish intrest..making students suffer, the money they have been paying them sef..how many times they repiar the institution for us...claiming they are fighting for the students abi them pocket...ASUU go join IPPIS
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jesmond3945: 9:40am On May 01, 2020
Ericraymond01:




ASSU are just for their selfish interest. Trying to dictate for your employer. The should wake up to the reality that the federal government will never go back on their decision. My brother has enrolled on IPPIS and his salary comes steady with no wahala. Over 78% and still counting have enrolled, the rest should remain there.
let your brother enroll now but let him not cry tommorow when he cannot get a visiting or adjunct job anywhere or even external examination. I hope you know it will kill his lecturing career in the future very fast.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by jesmond3945: 9:42am On May 01, 2020
thundafire:
ASSU are fighting so dat,der money from different federal Universities will be entering der account all in the name of visiting lecturers and yet will want der exact salary from the same government ok,let them give der BVN number dey are protesting
so they should ban visiting lecturing? I hope you know if not for that your department would have failed accreditation.
Re: SSANU: FG Betrayed Our Trust On IPPIS by justt: 9:45am On May 01, 2020
TopeQs:


I only quote you because you seem to have an issue understanding what I wrote.. so re-read again, this time slowly. when you're done, re-quote me and this time, choose your words wisely, I'm not a kid that you could talk to as you please.

yes, I know a lecturer doing the part-time thin 4 different university, no imagination whatsoever, it's true.

I don't really like all this back and forth on faceless forum. Other commenters had actually adequately replied you and this is just to buttress their comments and this will be my last reply to you on this matter.

My points are just two. One, the issue is about SSANU and not ASUU. You couldn't reason along with their complaints but attacked ASUU, who in its wisdom and foresight had foreseen the current situation. It's no joke when you say someone has a Ph.D. let alone being a professor. Again, there is no hope for any country that rubbishes its body of intellectuals! ASUU's decision is not a one-man show. It's based on rigorous and superior arguments.

How many SSANU members have Master's degree let alone a Ph.D.? No, wonder SSANU doesn't have such foresight and cannot come up with such decisions. I do not in anyway wish to malign SSANU but just like I said earlier, their lack of cooperation with ASUU for whatever reasons has brought them here.

That's also the problem with Nigeria. We usually blindly go against the opponents; not because they are enemies or their pursuits is detrimental to the welfare of the masses but just that they opponents!

Then secondly, you said you knew a lecturer working in four different federal universities! It's interesting to note that you have removed the federal and changed it to just universities which probably are state or private universities!

That's the problem! Just like the FG itself, you like false propaganda. If you were that certain, why did you change it. I can see that you are not a kid but I guess you know I'm not, too

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