freshboi88:



18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. (ESV)

What lie have I told. Did Jesus break the Sabbath?...Yes he did!

Did Jesus call God his own Father. Yes he did!

Did d bible say Jesus calling God his father makes him equal to God..Yes d bible did @bolded.

Btw d bible and Janosky failed attempt to manipulate this verse, who would u believe?

C how God is exposing u. Wise up man, wake up from ur ignorance and foolishness

freshboi88:

John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
C as this verse don mumu u

CANTICLES:

Not at all , it shows you dont really think
So this means Apostle Paul lied that Jesus belong to God or what are you saying ??

Gods begotten son that came into existence through him is Gods property

freshboi88:


It's checkmate dude. It's clear. Jesus is God.

I understand since u have been defeated there's nothing to say, it's my multiple post that is now a problem

freshboi88:


It shows u r myopic. U only see a tiny pix and make Ur conclusion. If u ignore all the clues that Jesus left showing he is God n rely on Russells cockeyed interpretation then my brother u have been brainwashed just like bokoharam. Who tink wht they doing is right.

Making statements like Ur last statement is utter foolishness, because the bible says Jesus calling God his own Father is making himself equal to God. But u lack the intellectual capacity to grasp that even when it is clearly written in the bible.

Where did they tie ur brain.

Janosky:


Point 1:
If Freshboi calls God "my Father" is Freshboi saying himself is equal to God?
Freshboi88 RECEIVE SENSE...

Point 2
Remove the specks in your eyes study John 19:6-7. John 10:36. John 14:28.

Point 3
Who said " Jesus was making himself equal to God @ John 5:18 ?
Answer: The wicked Jews LIED he was making himself equal to God. Read again John 19:7. John 14:28.


Point 4.
John 10:30= John 17:22.1Cor 3:6,8 "we Are One" is NEVER Proof of equality.
Study your Bible,1 Cor 11:3. 1 Cor 3:23.

Amos3:3 can two be One unless they have agreed to walk together? Gen2:24. Matt19:5-6.
John 12:50 "I speak what the Father has told me to say"..
Freshboi88 LEAVE that GIBBERISH you posted up there..

Maximus69:


@bolded is the same reason why i keep posting the comment of your Daddy GO!

Until his death in 1916 Charles Taze Russell was loved by all the members of his group, and till today the group has maintain that fine heritage of LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their group! Matthew 7:15

freshboi88:


Leave Adeboye or Russell and focus on the bible.


John 5:18, NLT: "So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder to find a way to kill him. For he not only broke the Sabbath, he called God his Father, thereby making himself equal with God."

John says Jesus was making himself equal to God. Was he lying?


English Standard Version
John 16:15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

The Father will take from what is Jesus's and give to you. Almighty God taking from his own creature?.........

Can u please reconcile this verses with what u go around preaching

Maximus69:


@ the bolded please!

Then the Bible says to TRUE Christian~ "stop getting yourselves involved in ARGUMENTS" Philippians 2:14, Colossians 2:4; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

According to Jesus, it's "by their fruit (the aftereffect of their teachings in their midst) that you will distinguish between those teaching the truth of God's word from those teaching heresy" Matthew 7:15-20

That's what i found when i focused on God's word!

freshboi88:


Act 15:2
New Living Translation
Paul and Barnabas disagreed with them, arguing vehemently. Finally, the church decided to send Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem, accompanied by some local believers, to talk to the apostles and elders about this question.

Dnt read one part of scripture and take it as truth. Paul arguement vehemently, so do Barnabas.

My brother u r a baby when it comes to issues of faith. If u dnt disassociate from these people u will forever live a lie.

U will be an antichrist.....subtly u will undermine Jesus and relegate ur saviour to Ur own level as @Janosky is doing.

Don't be like those two Paul talked about 2 Tim 2:

Hymenaeus and Philetus are in this group. 18 They have strayed from the truth by saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are undermining some people's faith.

It is dangerous, the Good news is u r still welcome back to preach the good news unadulterated. U dnt need to tell me that u yield an accept because of pride. Do it in the corner of Ur room. Choose a bible believing church around you and c how ull grow in the word of God under the divine teaching of the Holy Ghost.

Maximus69:


First of all I am NOT your brother!
My own brothers and sisters are members of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth.

Secondly you quoted the scripture where Paul and Barnabas argued but omitted the most important aspect of that scripture which says
"the church sent the two of them to Jerusalem"
For what purpose were they sent to Jerusalem?
Who are those that sent them to Jerusalem?
Why Jerusalem and not somewhere else?

freshboi88:




This one is hanging by the straw, desperately holding onto dear life. Sorry ehn, u didn't c that coming.

Let me just burry u and send u to abyss where u belong

Point 1.
Point 1 I am not Jesus. I am not the fullness of deity dwelling in bodily form. I am not the First and the Last . King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I am not the Alpha and Omega. I am not the Everlasting Father neither am I the Mighty God. Jesus Christ bears all these titles. So it is the height of stupidity comparing me a mere mortal to Jesus who bears all these titles of God. U r only mocking Jesus's work of redemption, his decision to let go of all his glory and become like u and I to save us. God help u.

Point 2:
Stop throwing verses that don't help u. John said he was making himself equal to God. That statement is accredited to the writer, it is John's opinion. If the Jews felt the same way, it is because they are intelligent enough like John who knew that Jesus calling God is Father was him making himself equal with God which is on par with John's opinion.

Pilate finding no fault in Jesus is because he wasn't a Jew but a Roman so such charges doesn't concern him.

Point 3

The person who said so is the writer John. It is his opinion. But Ur twisted mind u tell u it's the Jews. Not only was he breaking the Sabbath, he was calling God his own Father making himself equal with God

If the Jews lied that he was calling making himself equal with God, did they lie that he was breaking the Sabbath too!...no they didn't.

Like I said that statement is John opinion.

Point 4

Jesus left many clues that he is God. God left many clues that he operates in three ways. As the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Three distinct persons but 1 God.

English Standard Version
All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

Wow the Father will take what is for Jesus and give to u. Wow!!!!.....This created being must be so great o.

Cure urself of mental slavery o

Rozz:
i think you are wrong on this,every Christians are brothers and sisters of one another,christianity preaches love among ourselves why limit your own love to JW

Maximus69:


Only JWs live by the teachings of Jesus Christ, so if you're not one of us you can't be my brother or sister in FAITH.
You are my neighbour!

Rozz:
lol,JW and their ways

Janosky:


Freshboi88 STOP this mockery of your intelligence....

Freshboi88 why do you sound so idiotic on top of your LYING ?

In the gospel account of John chapter 5:1-47, is John giving his own personal opinions to Freshboi ?
By
Or John reported ALL the events he saw korokoro with his eyes ?

*** John 5:15-19

.” 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him. 16 And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”


18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.


19 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father[e] does, that the Son does likewise.

** John 5:16, why did the Jews persecute Jesus?
** John 5:18 "Why did the Jews seek to kill Jesus?
** John 5:19, what was Jesus Christ reply to the accusations against him in John 5:18?

VERDICT:
John 5:19 , Jesus Christ says himself "can DO NOTHING OF his Own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing...."

John 5:19, Jesus Christ says himself DEY COPY "ONLY what he sees the Father doing"

Freshboi88 Na CONFIRMED OLODO .
He dey vomit RUBBISH wey Olebwoy pack full him brain

Maximus69:


First of all I am NOT your brother!
My own brothers and sisters are members of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth.

Secondly you quoted the scripture where Paul and Barnabas argued but omitted the most important aspect of that scripture which says
"the church sent the two of them to Jerusalem"
For what purpose were they sent to Jerusalem?
Who are those that sent them to Jerusalem?
Why Jerusalem and not somewhere else?

freshboi88:


Ur decision to be open minded was the biggest mistake u made in Ur life. Study ur bible get the truth urself


John 16:15 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

@bolded in ur heart of heart, is this a statement that a created being would make?

freshboi88:

Jesus Christ is worthy of eternal praise, he is the son of God. let's look at the temptation of Jesus by Satan. why would satan tempt Jesus with the riches of this world if Jesus was God? We all know that satan isn't dumb, and he knows that everything was created by God, even the so-called riches of the world.
Did they argue or not?...They did! U dnt have a point.

New Living Translation
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

Is the bible lying...it says here Jesus is God. Jehovah Witnesses say the bible is lying

freshboi88:


@Janosky I dnt have time for your rubbish and lies. I will not stop exposing u.

New Living Translation
Roman 9:5 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

The bible says Jesus is God @Janosky says he is not.

@Janosky reconcile the bolded with ur Jesus created bullshit story. Did the scripture call Jesus God or not?

Damlovey:
roman 9:5 said ... Who is God over all... Jesus rules over everything, everything has been subjected under him. except for the one who subjected everything under him which is Jehovah

Damlovey:
I studied the bible myself. no one told me what to do. The bible says "you shall know the truth and the truth shall liberate you" That was what God's word the bible did.
with regards to your question, let's use the analogy of a man and his only child,son. the man birthed the son obviously. everything the man has belongs to the son. the man may through his son but lands and properties. the son knows that everything his father has belongs to him, that doesn't take away the fact that the boy was birthed by the father.

freshboi88:


Did they argue or not?...They did! U dnt have a point.

New Living Translation
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

Is the bible lying...it says here Jesus is God. Jehovah Witnesses say the bible is lying

Maximus69:


I know you won't address the questions, so let me enlighten you!

(1)For what purpose were they sent to Jerusalem?

The case was reported to the 12 Apostles in Jerusalem, so they were sent to go for proper counseling and eyewitnesses of the matter must go with them to table their unchristlike attitude before the Governing Body of the first century Christian congregation! Act 2:42

(2)Who sent them to Jerusalem?

The elders of the Christian congregation where they both exhibited that stupidity can't take that nonsense from these two traveling overseers, so they must send the two of them back to Jerusalem for the Apostles to reprove them and know if both Paul and Barnabas are still worthy of the assignment given to them as traveling overseers of Christ. Jehovah's Witnesses have such traveling overseers today, and if he exhibits such unchristlike attitude, he will be reported to the branch committee immediately for proper action to be taken!

(3)Why Jerusalem and not somewhere else?

Because Jerusalem is the foretold seat of God's Kingdom so the law of Christ to maintain LOVE, JOY and PEACE amongst God's people must come from Jerusalem! Isaiah 2:3

So there is no justified form of argument in the midst of God's people, arguments is a sign of division NOT unity!

freshboi88:


Let's not derail the thread.

New Living Translation
Romans 9:5 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

Is Jesus called God @ bolded?

freshboi88:


Let's not derail the thread.

New Living Translation
Romans 9:5 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

Is Jesus called God @ bolded?

Janosky:

Another Freshboi GIBBERISH up there...

Jesus says in heaven: Revelations 3:11,12.

11 I am coming soon.Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name

Genuine followers of Jesus Christ knows that Jesus Christ himself have given PROOF on earth in John 20:17 & in heaven in Revelation 3:11,12 that Freshboi88 version of Romans9:5 is FALSE and FAKE..

WHY ?

Apostle Paul can NOT contradict his master, Jesus Christ.
Paul NEVER wrote that GIBBERISH Freshboi pasted there..

Anybody who CONTRADICTS the Perfect Master, Jesus Christ is a confirmed Enemy of Jesus...

Freshboi no get Liver to Contradict Olebwoy him Oga but him dey form "spiritual wisdom" dey CONTRADICT Jesus Christ...
TUEH !!

freshboi88:


New International Version
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

New Living Translation
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

English Standard Version
To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all blessed forever. Amen.

Berean Study Bible
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them proceeds the human descent of Christ, who is God over all, forever worthy of praise! Amen.

Berean Literal Bible
whose are the patriarchs; and from whom is Christ according to the flesh, being God over all, blessed to the ages. Amen.


Christian Standard Bible
The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.

International Standard Version
To the Israelis belong the patriarchs, and from them, the Messiah descended, who is God over all, the one who is forever blessed. Amen.

NET Bible
To them belong the patriarchs, and from them, by human descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever! Amen.

New Heart English Bible
of whom are the patriarchs, and from whom is the Christ, as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God, blessed forever. Amen.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And the Patriarchs; and from them The Messiah appeared in the flesh, who is The God Who is over all, to Whom are praises and blessings to the eternity of eternities, amen.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.

New American Standard 1977. (1)
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

King James 2000 Bible. (2)
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

American King James Version. (3)
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

American Standard Version. (4)
whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Douay-Rheims Bible. (5)
Whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ, according to the flesh, who is over all things, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Darby Bible Translation. (6)
whose [are] the fathers; and of whom, as according to flesh, [is] the Christ, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

English Revised Version. (7)
whose are the fathers, and of whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Webster's Bible Translation (
Whose are the fathers, and from whom according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Weymouth New Testament (9)
To them the Patriarchs belong, and from them in respect of His human lineage came the Christ, who is exalted above all, God blessed throughout the Ages. Amen.

World English Bible
of whom are the fathers, and from whom is Christ as concerning the flesh, who is over all, God, blessed forever. Amen.

Young's Literal Translation
whose are the fathers, and of whom is the Christ, according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed to the ages. Amen.

First of, I didn't write the bible. The bible is God's inspired word so what the bible says cannot be a lie. Excepting, u r calling God a liar

Secondly, could all these translations be lying?


Now the big question...why does the Bible call Jesus God?

Janosky:

Freshboi get brain but he refused to use it....


The 2 Questions a reasonable person would have asked is this:

Why do these Bible Translators CONTRADICT Jesus Christ in John 20:17 and Rev 3:5,11,12?

Why are ALL these Bible Translators you copied (1-9 Says "God blessed Jesus forever (to the ages)" CONTRADICT your New Living Translation ?

Look at the BOLDED .1-9..

Will humble,faithful disciples of Christ CONTRADICT his Master, Jesus?

Rozz:
i think you are wrong on this,every Christians are brothers and sisters of one another,christianity preaches love among ourselves why limit your own love to JW