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Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:06pm On May 02, 2020
freshboi88:
My sister don't mind these cultists who claim to be Christian.
@bolded!
Rozz take note! Matthew 10:24-25

That's why i quickly denied being your brother! Matthew 12:46-49
You only called JWs cultists because we disagree with your doctrines.
So are you saying all the religious groups that disagree with you on accepting Jesus as the Almighty God are cultists too? cheesy

My friend stop deceiving yourself! cheesy
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:13pm On May 02, 2020
freshboi88:
My sister don't mind these cultists who claim to be Christian.
cultist? I don't know about that but I only know they always have different opinions on religion matters.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:20pm On May 02, 2020
Rozz:
cultist? I don't know about that but I only know they always have different opinions on religion matters.
He claims to be RCCG, please is Adeboye in good terms with

©TB Joshua (Synagogues)?
© Cherubim and Seraphim?
© Celestial Church of Christ?
© Christ Embassy?
© Catholic Church?

Does the baba agree that these groups are Christians? cheesy
So does that makes members of this groups cultists? cheesy
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:27pm On May 02, 2020
freshboi88:
This one wasted his school fees. Olodorabata!!!!.......U b real Dundee of the first order. The other translations constructed the sentence in a different but didn't destroy the meaning.

U keep running from pillar to post, I can c u r hanging on to dear life here. Trust me, I will finish you.

So ur faulting translators. U r a big hypocrite. Have looked at the contradictions in your teaching like this obvious.
Freshboi coming up with more GIBBERISH....
YOUR LIES on this thread speaks volumes !
Freshboi88 Very Talented LIAR grin grin


In this screenshot of your previous post, give us the PROOF to justify your Korokoro LIE LIE up there.. Romans9:5 Where did NASB (1) to Darby Bible (6) says "Jesus is God".? grin

Romans 9:5, Why does your New Living Translation CONTRADICT NASB (1) to Darby Bible (6)?

Why does your New Living Translation of Romans9:5 CONTRADICT Jesus Christ in heaven at Revelation 3:12 and John 20:17 ?



Freshboi LIE LIE done buy market here..... grin

Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:32pm On May 02, 2020
Maximus69:
He claims to be RCCG, please is Adeboye in good terms with

©TB Joshua (Synagogues)?
© Cherubim and Seraphim?
© Celestial Church of Christ?
© Christ Embassy?
© Catholic Church?

Does the baba agree that these groups are Christians? cheesy
So does that makes members of this groups cultists? cheesy
you see why I agree with my pastor who says even some non Christians will make heaven as long as they believe in God and abide by his rules(still trying to learn more on this)division in Christianity is somehow,everybody believes they are perfect in their own ways.hmm
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:40pm On May 02, 2020
Rozz:
you see why I agree with my pastor who says even some non Christians will make heaven as long as they believe in God and abide by his rules(still trying to learn more on this)division in Christianity is somehow,everybody believes they are perfect in their own ways.hmm
The point i'm making is that all their Pastors have formed alliance to label JWs as cultists, but it's when you meet their misinformed members that you will laugh at their stupidity!

"Jehovah's Witnesses are cultists" because they disagreed with freshboi88 on doctrines but there is no single religion that agree with RCCG, otherwise they shouldn't be worshiping in different forms! smiley
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:46pm On May 02, 2020
Rozz:
cultist? I don't know about that but I only know they always have different opinions on religion matters.
JWs are genuine Bible students who seek to share God's message of truth in the Bible whoever wants to learn about the only true God and His Son, Jesus Christ (John 17:3).
You can see ( John 17:3,Jesus shows clear distinction between the True God and Jesus) that is not the GIBBERISH and JUNK Freshboi88 dey vomit here.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:48pm On May 02, 2020
Janosky:
JWs are genuine Bible students who seek to share God's message of truth in the Bible whoever wants to learn about the only true God and His Son, Jesus Christ (John 17:3).
You can see ( John 17:3,Jesus shows clear distinction between the True God and Jesus) that is not the GIBBERISH and JUNK Freshboi88 dey vomit here.
lol you must a JW as well
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 10:13pm On May 02, 2020
freshboi88:
Rev22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”


Compare this with


New International Version
Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.


Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

God will not give his glory to anyone. So how come Jesus shares the glory of the Father.
Now my question Christ calling himself the first and the last as Jehovah did in Isaiah, isn't it taking God's title, isn't it claiming Jehovah's glory for himself. Isn't he calling himself God?.
OLODO wey no know Jesus Christ grin
John 17:18,24.

18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world."

24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

John 17:18, If his Father sent God into the world, therefore, Jesus sent God into the world , according to Freshboi88 Mumu.

John 17:24, Jesus Christ himself says Freshboi Na OLODO...
Jesus Papa give am position of glory,you turn Jesus to coup plotter... grin
TUEH !
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
The Jews who are verse in the scripture knew he claimed to be God. But @Janosky who thinks he knows it all thinks otherwise. The bible says Jesus is God, he says it's the translators.
Freshboi LIAR..
Let the Jews speak for themselves.. John 19:7.

◄ John 19:7 ►

"The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."



Let Jesus Christ speak for himself...
John 10:36. Revelation 3:5,11-12,21.
How come your deity is God's Son in heaven?

Is Freshboi88 closer to Jesus than Apostles Peter and Paul?

Acts 3:13. Matt16:13-17. 1 Cor 11:3. 3:23.

Peter's Confession of Christ
…15“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven..."

Mumu Virus done brainwash Freshboi88

Moderator, abeg coman close this thread because somebody fit go fight him Daddy G.O... grin.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 10:55pm On May 02, 2020
Janosky:
Freshboi LIAR..
Let the Jews speak for themselves.. John 19:7.

◄ John 19:7 ►

"The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."



Let Jesus Christ speak for himself...
John 10:36. Revelation 3:5,11-12,21.
How come your deity is God's Son in heaven?

Is Freshboi88 closer to Jesus than Apostles Peter and Paul?
Acts 3:13. Matt16:13-17. 1 Cor 11:3. 3:23.

Mumu Virus done brainwash Freshboi88

Moderator, abeg coman close this thread because somebody fit go fight him Daddy G.O... grin.
@Janosky @Maximus69 @Damilovey @Barristter07 @rozz

Janosky is clever by half. C how he left the part he couldn't reconcile. I will choke u with the truth

Rev22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.


Compare this with


New International Version
Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

So Jehovah LORD Almighty says: I am the first and last and there is no other God apart from him.

Jesus is Rev 22:13 says I am the first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega (the first and last letter of the Greek alphabet).

@Janosky does Christ claim he is God here or not?....reconcile this no do like say u no c am
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 10:56pm On May 02, 2020
Janosky:
Freshboi LIAR..
Let the Jews speak for themselves.. John 19:7.

◄ John 19:7 ►

"The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."



Let Jesus Christ speak for himself...
John 10:36. Revelation 3:5,11-12,21.
How come your deity is God's Son in heaven?

Is Freshboi88 closer to Jesus than Apostles Peter and Paul?

Acts 3:13. Matt16:13-17. 1 Cor 11:3. 3:23.

Peter's Confession of Christ
…15“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven..."

Mumu Virus done brainwash Freshboi88

Moderator, abeg coman close this thread because somebody fit go fight him Daddy G.O... grin.
U ask how deity can be Gods son. Ehn ehn...I u dnt know ask and be willing to learn. I am here to teach u
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 11:23pm On May 02, 2020
freshboi88:
@Janosky @Maximus69 @Damilovey @Barristter07 @rozz

Janosky is clever by half. C how he left the part he couldn't reconcile. I will choke u with the truth

Rev22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13[b]I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.[/b]”


Compare this with


New International Version
Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

So Jehovah LORD Almighty says: I am the first and last and there is no other God apart from him.

Jesus is Rev 22:13 says I am the first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega (the first and last letter of the Greek alphabet).

@Janosky does Christ claim he is God here or not?....reconcile this no do like say u no c am
Revelations 21:6-7, Jehovah God is the OWNER of the reward (compare Rev 3:12,21) , Revelations 22:13, Jehovah , the only true God is the Alpha and Omega.

Isaiah 44:6 Almighty God, Jehovah Alpha and Omega says "there is no God but me" , John 17:3, Jesus agrees Jehovah God is "the only true God".
Jesus is not Almighty, not the Most High,not Alpha and Omega..

Shikena !!!!!
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:51pm On May 02, 2020
Janosky:
Revelations 21:6-7, Jehovah God is the OWNER of the reward (compare Rev 3:12,21) , Revelations 22:13, Jehovah , the only true God is the Alpha and Omega.

Isaiah 44:6 Almighty God, Jehovah Alpha and Omega says "there is no God but me" , John 17:3, Jesus agrees Jehovah God is "the only true God".
Jesus is not Almighty, not the Most High,not Alpha and Omega..

Shikena !!!!!
@Jozzy4 @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @ CANTICLES @rozz
@ Janosky

It's not shikena matter o

Rev 22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

According to you Jesus is not Alpha and Omega. Nd u claim that those other scriptures u quoted confirms this ,no p

But a look at the bolded in Rev 22:13 Jesus says I am the Alpha and Omega. So was Jesus lying?.....or is this a translation issue as well, it's allowed to quote Ur own version let's c and compare, which I know there's no difference.

Pls dnt run o, ansa the questions
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky:
freshboi88:
@Jozzy4 @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @ CANTICLES @rozz
@ Janosky

It's not shikena matter o

Rev 22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

According to you Jesus is not Alpha and Omega. Nd u claim that those other scriptures u quoted confirms this ,no p

But a look at the bolded in Rev 22:13 Jesus says I am the Alpha and Omega. So was Jesus lying?.....or is this a translation issue as well, it's allowed to quote Ur own version let's c and compare, which I know there's no difference.

Pls dnt run o, ansa the questions
Freshboi88 , Desperado hanging on to straws....

Read and Study your Bible with understanding and God given insight.

Revelations 21:4-7
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

Freshboi, answer these questions ....

**1)
who is the God with sons in heaven ?

**2) Who is Owner of the Reward given to faithful servants of God?

**3)
Who is the Owner of the the Reward given to Jesus Christ in heaven ?

**4)
Did Jesus Christ confess himself is God's Son in heaven ?

**5)
Does Jesus Christ have sons in heaven?

The Answers are in Revelations 3:5,11-12,21 and Revelations 21:4-7.

**Revelations 3:5,11-12.
" 5All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels ..“

11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take away your crown. 12All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write on them the name of my God, and they will be citizens in the city of my God—the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And I will also write on them my new name."


Revelations 22:13, the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty Yahweh.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 8:35am On May 03, 2020
Janosky:
Freshboi88 , Desperado hanging on to straws....

Read and Study your Bible with understanding and God given insight.

Revelations 21:4-7
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

Freshboi, answer these questions ....

**1)
who is the God with a son in heaven ?

**2) Who is Owner of the Reward given to faithful servants of God?

**3)
Who is giving the Reward to Jesus Christ in heaven ?

**4)
Did Jesus Christ confess himself is God's Son in heaven ?

The Answers are in Revelations 3:5,11-12,21 and Revelations 21:4-7.

Revelations 22:13, the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty Yahweh.
you all are quoting verses to back up the argument,its good.No knowledge is lost.May God Ben our guide
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 8:45am On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
@Jozzy4 @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @ CANTICLES @rozz
@ Janosky

It's not shikena matter o

Rev 22:12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

According to you Jesus is not Alpha and Omega. Nd u claim that those other scriptures u quoted confirms this ,no p

But a look at the bolded in Rev 22:13 Jesus says I am the Alpha and Omega. So was Jesus lying?.....or is this a translation issue as well, it's allowed to quote Ur own version let's c and compare, which I know there's no difference.

Pls dnt run o, ansa the questions
I've asked you several questions that you've been dodging all these while!

So will you answer one of my numerous questions before i address yours?

Jesus is not the same person as Jehovah is the bone of contention here, so my question is

Do all the religious groups claiming Christians (apart from Jehovah's Witnesses) agree that Jehovah and Jesus is the same person?" cheesy
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 8:59am On May 03, 2020
Rozz:
you all are quoting verses to back up the argument,its good.No knowledge is lost.May God Ben our guide
Don't be surprised that all these people claiming JWs in Nairaland are none appointed servants amongst JWs! huh

We are all like members worshiping with the group, no appointed servant in the Organization will spend a minute chatting with someone who just feel like arguing!

I met Tatime last year on this forum and today he scarcely comment on Nairaland because he's now an appointed servant amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

That's to tell you that the Organization has fully equipped each member to defend his/her faith with efficacy anywhere anytime and before anyone! 2Timothy 3:16-17
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 9:06am On May 03, 2020
Janosky:
Freshboi88 , Desperado hanging on to straws....

Read and Study your Bible with understanding and God given insight.

Revelations 21:4-7
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

Freshboi, answer these questions ....

**1)
who is the God with a son in heaven ?

**2) Who is Owner of the Reward given to faithful servants of God?

**3)
Who is giving the Reward to Jesus Christ in heaven ?

**4)
Did Jesus Christ confess himself is God's Son in heaven ?

The Answers are in Revelations 3:5,11-12,21 and Revelations 21:4-7.

Revelations 22:13, the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty Yahweh.
You are clever by half. I told u before....asking questions to derail this but that is not happening.
Look at that bible passage again. I will expose Ur lies.


12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

The Alpha and Omega in this passage said he is coming soon bringing my reward to repay all people.

U on the other hand said the Alpha and Omega is Yahweh.

Is it Yahweh or Jesus that is coming soon.

Before u answer, let's juxtapose it some scripture from old testament...be aware incase u didn't know that rev 12 was quoted from Isaiah.

Isaiah 40:10 See, the Sovereign LORD comes with power, and he rules with a mighty arm. See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.


11 The LORD has made proclamation to the ends of the earth: “Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your Savior comes! See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.’ ”

So who is coming soon with his reward with him and who does Isaiah call Sovereign LORD?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:09am On May 03, 2020
Rozz:
you all are quoting verses to back up the argument,its good.No knowledge is lost.May God Ben our guide
Please Prayerfully read and study your Bible with understanding and insight which comes from Jehovah through his holy spirit..

You may have to follow the points step by step from the beginning to get a better grasp of what the HOLY Bible actually says.

Jesus Christ will not CONTRADICT himself in heaven and earth. Rev 3:5,11-12,21 and John 20:17.

Shalom
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 9:14am On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
You are clever by half. I told u before....asking questions to derail this but that is not happening.
Look at that bible passage again. I will expose Ur lies.


12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

The Alpha and Omega in this passage said he is coming soon bringing my reward to repay all people.

U on the other hand said the Alpha and Omega is Yahweh.

Is it Yahweh or Jesus that is coming soon.

Before u answer, let's juxtapose it some scripture from old testament...be aware incase u didn't know that rev 12 was quoted from Isaiah.

Isaiah 40:10 See, the Sovereign LORD comes with power, and he rules with a mighty arm. See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.


11 The LORD has made proclamation to the ends of the earth: “Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your Savior comes! See, his reward is with him, and his recompense accompanies him.’ ”

So who is coming soon with his reward with him and who does Isaiah call Sovereign LORD?
Who gave Jesus a Reward in heaven?
Revelations 3:5,12,21.

Whose Reward will Jesus give to faithful servants of God,his Father? grin

Who Owns the Reward? Revelations 21:4-7.
Go back to Revelations 1:1 who gave it to Jesus Christ? grin

Jesus Christ says the Reward is from his God and Father , Revelations 3:12,21.
Yahweh Himself says He Owns the Reward, it's in your Bible Revelations 21:4-7.
Yahweh is the Alpha and Omega.

For example, I will inform my Tenants I will give them Quit Notice.. and I send my Messenger to give them Quit Notice, if my Messenger tells my Tenants "I will come quickly...."
Is my Messenger claiming Ownership of my Quit Notice?

Freshboi is a Confirmed Enemy of Jesus Christ.
Bros, stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 9:48am On May 03, 2020
Janosky:
Who gave Jesus a Reward in heaven?
Revelations 3:5,12,21.

Whose Reward will Jesus give to faithful servants of God,his Father? grin

Who Owns the Reward? Revelations 21:4-7.
Go back to Revelations 1:1 who gave it to Jesus Christ? grin

Jesus Christ says the Reward is from his God and Father , Revelations 3:12,21.
Yahweh Himself says He Owns the Reward, it's in your Bible Revelations 21:4-7.
Yahweh is the Alpha and Omega.

For example, I will inform my Tenants I will give them Quit Notice.. and I send my Messenger to give them Quit Notice, if my Messenger tells my Tenants "I will come quickly...."
Is my Messenger claiming Ownership of my Quit Notice?

Freshboi is a Confirmed Enemy of Jesus Christ.
Bros, stop deceiving yourself.
Let him continue deceiving himself!

Adeboye taught him all these gibberish but he is lying against the spirit of God, saying it's God's holy spirit that taught him, whereas Adeboye and the other Pastors in his church are looking for ways to eliminate one another for the position that only God's holy spirit can appoint occupants!

Jesus has cleared the air!

Good tree will not bear routine fruits and a bad tree will not produce good fruit! Matthew 7:16-18

Till now Adeboye can't distinguish between the Spirit and Ghost, simply because that's the way his misinformed translators rendered God's holy spirit.

They're still having Holy Ghost Congress! cheesy
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:34pm On May 03, 2020
Janosky:
Who gave Jesus a Reward in heaven?
Revelations 3:5,12,21.

Whose Reward will Jesus give to faithful servants of God,his Father? grin

Who Owns the Reward? Revelations 21:4-7.
Go back to Revelations 1:1 who gave it to Jesus Christ? grin

Jesus Christ says the Reward is from his God and Father , Revelations 3:12,21.
Yahweh Himself says He Owns the Reward, it's in your Bible Revelations 21:4-7.
Yahweh is the Alpha and Omega.

For example, I will inform my Tenants I will give them Quit Notice.. and I send my Messenger to give them Quit Notice, if my Messenger tells my Tenants "I will come quickly...."
Is my Messenger claiming Ownership of my Quit Notice?

Freshboi is a Confirmed Enemy of Jesus Christ.
Bros, stop deceiving yourself.
I know u r a biblical illiterate but to add stupidity to it is just a no no.

12“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

The question isn't who gave it to Jesus. That's not the question I am asking u. Who is the speaker in Rev 22:12-13.

Jesus or Jehovah?.

I need to understand u, so let's go li2 by li2.

Who is speaking to John in Rev 22:12-13
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:38pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:
I've asked you several questions that you've been dodging all these while!

So will you answer one of my numerous questions before i address yours?

Jesus is not the same person as Jehovah is the bone of contention here, so my question is

Do all the religious groups claiming Christians (apart from Jehovah's Witnesses) agree that Jehovah and Jesus is the same person?" cheesy
Ur assertion here is faulty, I can't even answer u.

Trinitarians do not say Jesus is the same person as Jehovah. U don't read to understand u just argue based on what Ur head believes is my position. That's quite unfortunate.

Do u c why it is important for u to take Ur time to understand something urself before condemning.

The bone of contention is not that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah.

If u dnt know, ask questions and stop arguing blindly
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 1:44pm On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
Ur assertion here is faulty, I can't even answer u.

Trinitarians do not say Jesus is the same person as Jehovah. U don't read to understand u just argue based on what Ur head believes is my position. That's quite unfortunate.

Do u c why it is important for u to take Ur time to understand something urself before condemning.

The bone of contention is not that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah.

If u dnt know, ask questions and stop arguing blindly
Well there was nothing else before the Alfa and Omega (Jehovah), he was all alone before the creation works began, that's why his first creature was referred to as his only begotten son! wink
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by orisa37: 2:11pm On May 03, 2020
JESUS IS EMMANUEL GOD WITH US.

CHRIST IS THE LAMB THAT'S SLAIN.

THE LAMB THAT'S SLAIN IS ALWAYS ON THE THRONE PASSING SCROLLS OF REALITY AND DREAMS TO HUMANS WHO ALL WERE MADE FOR HIM
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 2:16pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:
Well there was nothing else before the Alfa and Omega (Jehovah), he was all alone before the creation works began, that's why his first creature was referred to as his only begotten son! wink
@Maximus69 @Jozzy4 @ CANTICLES @ Janosky @Rozz @ Barristter07

You guys dnt know anything. Stop saying what u don't know.

Let me school them a little. @Rozz I want to expose their lies, u c I have called them all out. Challenging them with the truth.

To know the truth u must know the Word of God. Let's compare the old and new testament because doing so provides powerful testimony to Jesus’s identity as God.

For example, a study of the Old Testament indicates that it is only God who saves.

In Isaiah 43:11, God asserts: “I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.

This verse indicates two things

(1) a claim to be Savior is, in itself, a claim to deity; and

(2) there is only one Savior—the Lord God.

Simply put God says he is our saviour.

So, it is highly revealing of Christ’s divine nature that the New Testament refers to Jesus as “our great God and Savior


Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

The appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is clearly referred to as God and savior here in Titus 2:13, which corresponds to Isaiah 43:11 Where God says besides him, there is no other savior.

If u need more biblical proof that Jesus is God. Tell me I'll show u scripture
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:22pm On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
@Maximus69 @Jozzy4 @ CANTICLES @ Janosky @Rozz @ Barristter07

You guys dnt know anything. Stop saying what u don't know.

Let me school them a little. @Rozz I want to expose their lies, u c I have called them all out. Challenging them with the truth.

To know the truth u must know the Word of God. Let's compare the old and new testament because doing so provides powerful testimony to Jesus’s identity as God.

For example, a study of the Old Testament indicates that it is only God who saves.

In Isaiah 43:11, God asserts: “I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.

This verse indicates two things

(1) a claim to be Savior is, in itself, a claim to deity; and

(2) there is only one Savior—the Lord God.

Simply put God says he is our saviour.

So, it is highly revealing of Christ’s divine nature that the New Testament refers to Jesus as “our great God and Savior


Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

The appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is clearly referred to as God and savior here in Titus 2:13, which corresponds to Isaiah 43:11 Where God says besides him, there is no other savior.

If u need more biblical proof that Jesus is God. Tell me I'll show u scripture
Jesus WAS God just as Moses WAS God!

It's the Bible translators that began using capital and small letters to write the title God!

According to the original inspired writers GOD, God or god means the same thing!

The only difference is the name! Psalms 83:15
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:27pm On May 03, 2020
freshboi88:
@Maximus69 @Jozzy4 @ CANTICLES @ Janosky @Rozz @ Barristter07

You guys dnt know anything. Stop saying what u don't know.

Let me school them a little. @Rozz I want to expose their lies, u c I have called them all out. Challenging them with the truth.

To know the truth u must know the Word of God. Let's compare the old and new testament because doing so provides powerful testimony to Jesus’s identity as God.

For example, a study of the Old Testament indicates that it is only God who saves.

In Isaiah 43:11, God asserts: “I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior.

This verse indicates two things

(1) a claim to be Savior is, in itself, a claim to deity; and

(2) there is only one Savior—the Lord God.

Simply put God says he is our saviour.

So, it is highly revealing of Christ’s divine nature that the New Testament refers to Jesus as “our great God and Savior


Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

The appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is clearly referred to as God and savior here in Titus 2:13, which corresponds to Isaiah 43:11 Where God says besides him, there is no other savior.

If u need more biblical proof that Jesus is God. Tell me I'll show u scripture
Othniel was a Saviour according to the Bible. I guess Freshboi88 isn't well updated . so how could Othniel be a saviour if there is only one saviour ?
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:27pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:
Jesus WAS God just as Moses WAS God!

It's the Bible translators that began using capital and small letters to write the title God!

According to the original inspired writers GOD, God or god means the same thing!

The only difference is the name! Psalms 83:15
Even an angel was called God .in capital letters . Right there in KJV.
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 2:28pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:
Well there was nothing else before the Alfa and Omega (Jehovah), he was all alone before the creation works began, that's why his first creature was referred to as his only begotten son! wink
The guy still doesn't know how to explain away the Fact that what is begotten come into existence
Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:36pm On May 03, 2020
CANTICLES:
Even an angel was called God .in capital letters . Right there in KJV.
That's true because the angel served as JEHOVAH'S mouthpiece the same way Jesus (Michael) also served! Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Act 3:23

He is crying now because all what Adeboye taught him is not working out any positivity in RCCG! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
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