₦airaland Forum

pazienza:
Nne, I was a member of Onu Ika, Ukwuani/Ndokwa, Enuani Facebook pages. These are all closed groups and you can easily verify the authenticity of commenters there.

I know the abuse I had faced from some hostile anti Igbo people in those pages. I was actually expelled from Onu Ika page by Biniphillic and Igbo hating elements there for trying to argue for Igbophillic side of things. My membership of the Ndokwa/Ukwuani page is hanging on thin thread and only saved because I decided to stop countering Igbo phobic posts there , and also because people there are not as united as Ndi Ika, there is a big dichotomy within Ukwuani ethnicity such that the Ndokwa segment would not accept the Ukwuani tag, they claim to be independent of Ukwuani and claim to be an independent ethnicity they call "Ndiosumili", this division in their ranks is the only thing that have allowed me survive in the group.

Additionally, I have taken my time to visit these communities to know more. You see, I am a grass root person, and I am the type that likes having a first hand observation of things, I have been investigating these Igboids in Delta for a long time, I should have a Ph.D in it already. I have even gone far and joined individual towns Facebook pages of Anioma communities just to know which town is more Igbophillic than the other.
I am not a keyboard person, I know your people well.

My point is that Biafra should be "OPERATION NOAHS ARK" . We build the Ark and Anchor it in SE, then we open the door for ANY Igbo group outside SE that wants in. No coercion, no wooing, no begging any to join. But under no circumstances should it be opened for non Igbo groups. No one wants another tower of Babel biko,make everyone answer their papa name.

Chukwu gozie gi.

No problem but only time will tell

AniOmaa:
Ok now I'm genuinely confused mate? which pedophile Oba are you talking about, sure say your correct so?

Tell ya blodas to stop disgracing Nigeria searching for gay porn

efe2real:
This thread is really hilarious. It shows Nairaland is different from reality. The question I keep asking myself is that how come a tribe that you can find in every nook and cranny in this country does not know other tribes opinion about them? Anybody that have stayed in Benin, Warri, Yenegoa, and Portharcourt will know that the non-igbo speaking tribes in these states do not want to have anything to do with Biafra. But one IPOB member in Abia thinks otherwise because he thinks life starts and ends on Nairaland. Even, most of the igbo-speaking are yet to accept that they are even Igbos.

The next card that IPOB is playing is that the tribes in the South South or Niger Delta are not united. Sadly, they are right, but everything is all about negotiation and compromise. Even the so-called Igbos are not even united. Of course, anyone that has stayed in Igbo land knows Ebonyi people are the rags used to clean the ground in the South East. Most even view them as inferior Igbos or denied them as Igbos. What about the Enugu (in particular Nsukka) igbos that are viewed as 'wawa' Igbos. Of course, an anambra man will view himself as a superior Igbo compared to others. Let's not forget about the aniomas that are referred to as fake Igbos already. Imagine an ugochukwu from Anambra is referring to an Ugochukwu from Delta State as fake Igbo. SMH. But, you will see Igbos in Nairaland painting themselves like they all love themselves like saimese twins. No one should deceive anyone on Nairaland that the Igbos are united and loved themselves so much. Most of us have stayed in the East before, so we know what's up over there.

One thing people should realise is the Igbos are not different from the Hausas and Yorubas. In fact, they are even worse because of their greediness and cunny way of life. As far as I am concerned, all this Biafra agitation is just a smokescreen to control the resources of the tribes in the South South region all by themselves. Biafra with the tribes of the Niger Delta will be Nigeria all over again, but this time the Igbos will be in exactly the position they have always dreamt of: the sole controller of the resources of the Niger Delta. Most of us can see through their deceits.

I don't have any issue with Biafra as long they go with their Igbo-speaking brothers (those that want to follow them anyway). The non-igbo speaking tribes in the region will decide their fate themselves (that is even if Nigeria should stop co-existing). And personally, I think Niger Delta republic is the best bet for the tribes in the region. There, the tribes can practice true federalism and state should be created along ethnic lines and be in total control of their resources and the center should be made weak. Then, l, as an Urhobo man, will know who to hold responsible when things go bad in my state. Of course, it will not be the president because I don't have business with him. Well it is just an opinion that can be fine-tuned and worked on. But Niger Delta as a country can thrive peacefully and successfully. Biafra is a no no. I believe nobody from the south south wants Nigeria Again Part 2 to happen in Biafra except the Igbos, of course.

Shut your mouth up. Do you know the meaning of Wawa? Do you know what it stands for? Do you know the people call Wawa in igbo land?

WAWA means no ; just as MBA means no.

omonnakoda:
Tell ya blodas to stop disgracing Nigeria searching for gay porn

If you want to have your ass drilled so badly, why not reach out to those my blodas, cause I'm not interested in your gay porn conversation dude, could care less if my "blodas" want to spend their time doing that, I don't roll that way.

AniOmaa:
If you want to have your ass drilled so badly, why not reach out to those my blodas, cause I'm not interested in your gay porn conversation dude, could care less if my "blodas" want to spend their time doing that, I don't roll that way.

Tell your blodas to stop disgracing Nigeria

valirex:
Igbo man shut the hell up what makes you think he's Edo. You think Edos care about this damn nation? For all we care this nation can burn and everyone goes their ways. Marginalizing us with Oduduwa is totally wrong. Singapore is 721.5 km² and Edo is 17,802 km², never determine the right of a people with how big or small their land is.

i don't know why igbos think Edo gives a Bleep about their Biafra.

They can go to hell for all we care, our history is tie with them and our future won't also br tie.

omonnakoda:
Tell your blodas to stop disgracing Nigeria

Ok

Deebwebb:
Afonjas on the beat always dragging people to there fights,stupid cowards,ask any the south-south commenting where they from,because ss is not a tribe, many people with different language an akwa ibom and a deltan will see an igbo man as a close ally,same way Benin we see Yoruba as a close ally too,so thinking ss is one group is wrong, a deltan or akwa ibom relate well with an igbo man than to an Edo man,I don't even understand or speak Edo at all, but we are all ss..so we Will always have different views...better go back north so they keep raping you guys to death as usual...

I will like to correct you on one thing.

Delta (non igboid) are more closer to Edo people than igbos

AniOmaa:
Ok

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Tell them to desist

Pazienza, you have really dealt so naturally with this topic and have managed to play it cool amidst the provocative statements from some individuals.

I'm unapologetically Igbo, from Anambra and i concur 100% with your views and that of other Igbos here. My stance is this:

1. Ipob does not speak for the over 45-50 million Igbos.
2. I want a strictly Igbo nationality, no other tribe needed
3. We reach out to Igbo groups in surrounding states and if they choose not to, we leave them alone.
4. That there be a definite map of Igbo nation with well mapped out boundaries, based on mutual acceptance of all the Igbos subgroups in it.
5. we can then forge alliances with our neighbours and bi/multi-lateral agreements.

Pazienza, I wish you could unite like minds here, so we can create a FB page and whatsapp group to foster these ideas and gradually liberate the Igbos being brainwashed.

Lostz:
even that Edo should be donated to the southwest. they don't think like Niger Deltans

how do Niger Deltans think? You think Edo people are toys you can just pass around??

Our history is rich and our culture isn't begging another ethnic groups for acceptance, we aren't parasites and don't depend on other ethnic groups resources to develope.

Do your Niger Delta, Biafra, oduduwa etc things and let Edo people worry about their future

Lostz:
the rest of the Niger Delta believe power should be decentralized. we believe no one is god.

but Edo, especially the Beni's seems to view some people as powerful and supreme..... they build up their leaders like gods. Edo behave more like the southwest

well that's our culture and we aren't going to change it. Our culture is older than nigeria, even older than British and will remain here till forever.

What's hard to understand? We don't want no part in any Biafra or oduduwa or Niger Delta nonsense and we aren't going to beg for unity.

TheGodlessGod:
how do Niger Deltans think? You think Edo people are toys you can just pass around??

Our history is rich and our culture isn't begging another ethnic groups for acceptance, we aren't parasites and don't depend on other ethnic groups resources to develope.

Do your Niger Delta, Biafra, oduduwa etc things and let Edo people worry about their future

was just correcting someone that added Edo to Niger Delta

TheGodlessGod:
well that's our culture and we aren't going to change it. Our culture is older than nigeria, even older than British and will remain here till forever.

What's hard to understand? We don't want no part in any Biafra or oduduwa or Niger Delta nonsense and we aren't going to beg for unity.

a culture that encourage slavery and submission to a fellow man?

we don't want that in Niger Delta

Biafrannuke:
I opened the thread and had to read few pages before I discovered it was opened by the same "we Niger delta" online activists who have refused to improve their argument.

The people disrespecting the ethnic groups of the lower Niger are the ones who refer to them as Niger Delta. Ibibio/efik/Annang, ogoni, ijaw, urhobo and itshekiri deserve more than being defined in terms of their natural resources.

In Biafra we are identified by our God given names. we are not resource beings.

The problems faced by Nigeria today was caused by the manner the colonists regarded the area based on their economic interest. The interest and the wishes of the natives was far less important than the economic interest of the colonialists. As a result while you had England, France, Spain etc that reflected their national heritage in Europe, new Africans states had names like slave coast, gold coast, ivory coast and Nigeria. in fact there was even an "oil river" protectorate and "escravos" in Nigeria. These countries have all changed the racist and demeaning names which viewed them as european properties, except Nigeria, which reflects its status as a neo colonialist outpost. people's heritage is their identity and no nation develops without embracing it's identity. Niger Delta connotes an oil region instead of a region of peoples. lumping different ethnic groups together under the demeaning and "oil centric" term of Niger delta is still same as the slave and gold coast of old.

The difference is clear. While Biafra wants to restore the dignity of the Eastern ethnic groups by recognizing their identity, fixing the entire region and giving improved standard of living to all. One Nigerian chanters want to extinguish the identity of the groups by giving them the demeaning and nebulous term "Niger delta" pretending to be liberating them from the Igbo's. They don't care whether the entire ogoni land becomes useless and desolate, they don't care whether gas flaring kills the entire Bayelsa neither do they care if everyone in port harcourt dies of cancer and asthma resulting from soot. They don't care about injustice cheating, unemployment etc. All they care about if for you to hate Igbo's, divide the region and continue to destroy while milking it.

Biafra must come through a referendum. Any Ethnic Group that wants to Join Nigeria is free. Those that want freedom will move into the 21st century with Biafra.

Care about your gully erosion ravaged region first. Greedy hypocrites.

Lostz:
a culture that encourage slavery and submission to a fellow man?

we don't want that in Niger Delta

first of all what ethnic group are you from?

TheGodlessGod:
first of all what ethnic group are you from?

you already said you are not. part of Niger Delta so let us end it there

Doc10q:
My sweet ada ogwashi leave them.. It's an edo or yoruba op that wrote that. No real ibo wud agree to follow ND instead of their brothers from d east or better still an anioma separate state

please why do you think it's an Edo person that wrote it?

Lostz:
you already said you are not. part of Niger Delta so let us end it there

nigeria. Niger Delta. Biafra.Arewa.

All of them are political names, if you think because Edo state is politically Niger Delta that we should throw away centuries of history because of it then you're ignorant.

I ask again what tribe are you? I want to see if your tribes have king's or not

LordNicvuitton:
Pazienza, you have really dealt so naturally with this topic and have managed to play it cool amidst the provocative statements from some individuals.

I'm unapologetically Igbo, from Anambra and i concur 100% with your views and that of other Igbos here. My stance is this:

1. Ipob does not speak for the over 45-50 million Igbos.
2. I want a strictly Igbo nationality, no other tribe needed
3. We reach out to Igbo groups in surrounding states and if they choose not to, we leave them alone.
4. That there be a definite map of Igbo nation with well mapped out boundaries, based on mutual acceptance of all the Igbos subgroups in it.
5. we can then forge alliances with our neighbours and bi/multi-lateral agreements.

Pazienza, I wish you could unite like minds here, so we can create a FB page and whatdapp group to foster these ideas and gradually liberate the Igbos being brainwashed by Ipob.

Your submission truly shows your are from Anambra not all these emotional wrecks from other east states.

mrvitalis:
Bros no body is forcing anyone into Biafra .....no one ...all we are asking is for people to be given the right to choose where they want to be

You are from Delta ...and southern Delta have never been and with my opinion should never be part of a Biafra only the Igbo speaking part of Delta ....and that is if they agree

If u want Nigeria Delta republic why not push for it so that the pressure of Biafra and Niger Delta republic would get Nigeria to do the right thing


For me I feel igbos have been to protective of Niger Delta , the war was because of u guys ,
Ojukwu lost the war because he refused to allow Russia and China do what shell and the rest are doing now
Buhari hates igbos because we choose to stick with u instead of going with the other big two


After all this what did we get in return ? Feeling we want to take your oil ? Lol really

Of igbos ever want anything from South south is access to the sea ....and only one state us enough for that ...offer them capital in a lose republic ....all igbos want is to protect ourselves

All this minorities igbos enter trouble for don't really appreciate it at all

I wish igbos can chase our sole gain for like 30 years ...let them learn

You are an emotional wrecks whose message is nothing but gibberish.

pazienza:
OP, I agree with you. IPOB should stop trying to suppress Niger Delta republic. Instead they should work in synergy with groups there to leave Nigeria as independent entities.
Croatia didn't have to annex Slovenia, Bosnia, Albania, etc, just because those ssmaller groups all wanted to leave failed Yugoslavia republic just like Croatia did. Instead Croatians worked in synergy with those smaller groups.

IPOB should stop claiming that Niger Delta does not exist, and labelling Niger deltan who campaign for their own independent republic as Yoruba impostors, its provocative to the people and misrepresent the stance of the rest Igbo nationalist like me.
IPOB should know that Heterogeneous Biafra will not be accepted by Igbo purists like myself because we all know it would end in another failure like Nigeria. Leave the minorities alone, stop the disgraceful unity begging, you are bringing shame to Ndigbo.

Words on marble.

This has been my stance for so long.

At last I am vindicated.

pazienza:
The minorities don't need your protection. They are strong enough to protect themselves. Ndiigbo should stop this stupid delusional hero complex and smell the coffee.
Work for Igbo only Biafra, invite Igbo bu Igbo groups from Rivers and Delta state for negotiations, if they are not coming on board, bin them too.
This Unity begging and attachee by force is disgraceful and I have come to hate IPOB and its bereft of sound reasoning leadership for this.

You hit the mrvitalis well.

He is always begging and begging and begging and thinks he is making sense and educated.

Kudos.

pazienza:
Well I know that Ibibio, Ijaw and Urhobo favour Niger delta republic because you hope to start playing majority politics in the new country against the smaller ethnic groups, like Ijaw did in old Rivers state, Urhobo in current Delta and Ibibio in Akwa Ibom.

But you must know that Niger Delta republic will not happen. After escaping this failed Nigeria,no ethnic nationality would ever tolerate to be under another.
Groups like Oro, Ogoni are already far advanced in their quest for independent country free from Ibibio and Ijaws, and would be supported by Ndiigbo to gain such, if we have a strategic leadership by then sha, not the current disorganized one championing for Biafra.

I am 100 percent that there will be no Niger Delta republic,At least not one consisting of all current 6 SS states intact. Niger Delta republic will likely in the end be just Ijaw republic, which was exactly what Boro defunct Niger Delta republic was all about.
At least 20 independent countries would emanate from the current Niger Delta region.
IPOB should stop wasting our time and forge synergy with all those groups as independent countries and not part of Biafra, so that we can all push together in our direction and free ourselves from Lagos/Abuja gang up that had affected all of us in the region.

Good.

dukeprince50:
At last one Igbo gets the message, we are making baby progress, tagging with minorities will eventually lead to another Nigeria. the ND are best left on their own. One Nigeria only favours the big three and whenever one of the big three is not part of a government, they start masturbating and shouting marginalized bla bla

Seems Ijaw nation is dead that ND is now una new game

dukeprince50:
u are 10000000% right, actually our best opinion is to make Nigeria wotk

You are afraid of leaving when u truth now stares u at face.

Lolzzz

pazienza:
They can bring up their Niger Delta republic anytime they want. It shouldn't be any of our concerns.
They mostly bring Niger Delta republic up during Biafra discussions because IPOB has conspired to continually put these ND ethnic groups in Biafra maps and discussions.
IPOB have no shame and had decided to continually be opening Ndiigbo up for embarrassment and disgrace from these minorities by their desperate attache by force and forceful conscription of these groups into Biafra.
This is the catalyst for the reasons we get reactions from those quarters whenever Biafra is mentioned. Actions begot reactions.
Call off these minorities bluff, declare Biafra an Igbo republic, meet with stake holders in Igbo speaking parts of SS, anyone who rejects us, reject them publicly too as part of Biafra.

How can you claim to be fighting for a country when you are yet to define its territory without eliciting disgrace.
IPOB and its leadership have not in anyway advanced this Biafra cause beyond where they met it, history will remember that.
6 years and counting, IPOB has not sorted out Biafra boundaries. What.a circus.

Nnamdi kanu is the most useless Igbo man on Earth.

TheGodlessGod:
nigeria. Niger Delta. Biafra.Arewa.

All of them are political names, if you think because Edo state is politically Niger Delta that we should throw away centuries of history because of it then you're ignorant.

I ask again what tribe are you? I want to see if your tribes have king's or not

This is one of the reasons why I told someoneoff earlier on when she said lostz was an urhobo man. Because no urhobo man will kom out publicly to make these kind of provocative statements about an edoman. Please that lostz guy is just saying his own mind, maybe he has personal scores to settle with Edo. But just know that to those of us from delta state urhobo, isoko, itsekiris consider Edo a part and parcel of Niger Delta republic. When it's time to have a discussion about our future, we'll all sit down and talk things through diplomatically. For now please just ignore those who think they are more Niger Deltan than the others.

TheGodlessGod:
first of all what ethnic group are you from?

I’m pretty sure he is Igbo. You can tell by their M.O. Ignore him. He forgot Delta State and Edo State was once Bendel State.

fhranchez:
cool i like your vibe, but you can't cut people off without giving them the right to choose. Hold your rantings till after referendum. I don't want to label you an afonja

Right to choose?

Did they ask u to put them in biafra before?

Well we may also give Kano state even Taraba right to chose.

People are not agitating and you are forcing them into your union..

Attache by Force.

nextdoor84:
I would rather prefer my people join Biafra than have us in Ijaw dominated ND republic. Those guys are something else. If a country as little as Rwanda can make progress then no matter where you are located, with good leadership and governance such country can succeed.
I support pazienza's view of only Igboid country where hate and rancor would totally be eliminated.

Will reply this statement later.

fhranchez:
cool i like your vibe, but you can't cut people off without giving them the right to choose. Hold your rantings till after referendum. I don't want to label you an afonja

Why not give Fulani right to choose if they want to be in Biafra?

Why those places that give you sea access and crude oil?