fk001:


It started with intermarriages between them many many years ago but is more peculiar in the NW than NE. Some Hausas household have like 4 or more generational intermarriage between them and Fulani hence the reasoning for lumping them together with the phrase "Hausa Fulani"..

Secondly, Hausa and Fulani have the highest intermarriage between them in the whole of northern Nigeria than any other tribe. For instance, my Kanuri people hardly Marry outside our tribe they maintain that tradition of marrying within the old Borno lineage. However, some Fulani from yola also maintain that inner circus of marriage they hardly marry other tribes but some do it sha


Any more question?

Thanks, you have said enough!

oyatz:
Let me contribute to this discussion.

1) The Historical backgrounds and worldviews of people in the core North is DIFFERENT from people in the South and these are molded by the religion of ISLAM.

2) The Legacy the the Uthman dan Fodio's Jihard.


The Jihard sought to correct some perceived evils in the various Hausa kingdoms by toppling the ruling Hausa Dynasties and establish an egalitarian community in which every body will be equally and justifiably treated under the banner Islam.

3) To achieve num-2 above, the Fulani Jihadists stressed Religious (Islamic) identity over all other identies, including ethnicities.

4) Politics of Colonial Nigeria. Those who have lived together under the Sokoto Caliphate practicing similar (Islamic) culture and inter-marriages for about 100 years before Colonial rule were regarded by the British Colonial Government as one homogeneous unit- the Hausa-Fulanis.

5) There are examples of similar different but similar ethnic groups/Towns being regarded as one unit (of administration) during the colonial rule e g Ogori-Mangogo, Ikwerre-Igbo, Sango-Otta.

Recently, I have also seen some people from Ilorin referring to themselves as 'Yoruba-Fulanis'

Thanks for your contribution

Very hard working people

Thumbs up to them except the two ladies serving In a foreign army,they are foreign combatants.

Openbusiness:

Again, I appreciate your contributions. I agree with your point about sharing the same geographical space, very solid point that makes sense, especially relative to my example of other southern tribes mixing up. You're very correct, they don't share same lands, so it is say easier for them to choose to be separate entities. So let me focus my observations on the North itself. Like I said before I believe you are right and everything you explained is true and correct. But I still feel there is more to this bond, I think it goes deeper than that and so far no northerners I know have been able to come up with an explanation beyond this same area you have covered. Sometimes, I feel they know more but are hiding the info, like maybe it is meant to be a secret for only hausa-fulani to know about, just an opinion though, I'm not saying that's a fact, but sometimes it feels that way. The question you may wonder is why I feel, or why do I feel there is more to this bond than is being revealed? I will answer like this, many years ago, I used to think Hausas and Fulanis were the only tribe in the North, until whether by chance or whatever, for the first and only time in my life, I dated an Hausa girl from Kaduna. Well, at first I thought she was Hausa, like because she didn't look Fulani. Because she was the fleshy type, so first time i saw her and heard her accent i thought she was hausa, cuz fulanis are usually the slender, slim types. Sorry I don't mean this as an offense or abuse. Anyway, after some months of dating, (very sweet girl, well behaved, coolheaded, respectful, submissive and stuff like that, and very very neat), she told me she wasn't actually Hausa by tribe even though she speaks Hausa. I was shocked to my bone cuz I automatically thought she was Hausa prior to her revelation. She told me she was from Kafanchan area in Kaduna but they were not Hausas, can't remember the actual tribe she said she was. And then she was like there are plenty different tribes in the North, just like we have in the south but the only difference is majority of them speak Hausa, like it is the common language, so most people think all of them are Hausas. So now back to my original question, in this case where you have many other northern tribes whom also intermarry with Hausa ands Fulani, who also share similar culture and share the same geographic location, how come it is only hausa-fulani that formed the single unit identity, why don't Northerners say Hausa-Nupe or Kanuri-fulani etc, how come it is only hausa-fulani that merge together in this way? This is the major reason I have this feeling that the bond goes beyond your explanation. I don't know, maybe it is an exaggeration on my part, but just sometimes it crosses my mind as to why that unique unity is singled out.

sorry I slept off last night

Hope you guys can educate the fulani herdsmen to shun voilence. Nigerians are tired of primitive actions which is not of this present civilization. I hardly see any of you guys condemning their actions and you expect people to see you differently.

fk001:


It started with intermarriages between them many many years ago but is more peculiar in the NW than NE. Some Hausas household have like 4 or more generational intermarriage between them and Fulani hence the reasoning for lumping them together with the phrase "Hausa Fulani"..

Secondly, Hausa and Fulani have the highest intermarriage between them in the whole of northern Nigeria than any other tribe. For instance, my Kanuri people hardly Marry outside our tribe they maintain that tradition of marrying within the old Borno lineage. However, some Fulani from yola also maintain that inner circus of marriage they hardly marry other tribes but some do it sha


Any more question?

Thank you for helping out brother!

oyatz:
Let me contribute to this discussion.

1) The Historical backgrounds and worldviews of people in the core North is DIFFERENT from people in the South and these are molded by the religion of ISLAM.

2) The Legacy the the Uthman dan Fodio's Jihard.


The Jihard sought to correct some perceived evils in the various Hausa kingdoms by toppling the ruling Hausa Dynasties and establish an egalitarian community in which every body will be equally and justifiably treated under the banner Islam.

3) To achieve num-2 above, the Fulani Jihadists stressed Religious (Islamic) identity over all other identies, including ethnicities.

4) Politics of Colonial Nigeria. Those who have lived together under the Sokoto Caliphate practicing similar (Islamic) culture and inter-marriages for about 100 years before Colonial rule were regarded by the British Colonial Government as one homogeneous unit- the Hausa-Fulanis.

5) There are examples of similar different but similar ethnic groups/Towns being regarded as one unit (of administration) during the colonial rule e g Ogori-Mangogo, Ikwerre-Igbo, Sango-Otta.

Recently, I have also seen some people from Ilorin referring to themselves as 'Yoruba-Fulanis'

thank you for your selfless contributions

9japride:
Hope you guys can educate the fulani herdsmen to shun voilence. Nigerians are tired of primitive actions which is not of this present civilization. I hardly see any of you guys condemning their actions and you expect people to see you differently.

Killer herdsmen are sponsored political criminals...

Their atrocities is has no boundary...

Arrewa:
Killer herdsmen are sponsored political criminals...

Their atrocities is has no boundary...

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Agreed, but you guys can do more in stopping it. If not for their men, their women are quite beautiful. But it will take a very long time before Nigerians will accept them as a loving people. The present leadership now is not even helping them. In other countries, if one citizen dies, the whole nation will be on standstill, but here people die in hundreds and nothing happens. Even soldiers die aimlessly. Nigeria will be a better place if their elites are cautioned.

mu2sa2:
They're making us proud by showing that nigerians are generally good, disciplined, reliable people - the few drug dealers, 419ners, internet fraudsters and other bad eggs do not represent who we are as a people. Besides, it shows the north has many great guys, contrary to what evil-minded foreigners are feeding a section of the country over a pirate radio station.
May God continue to bless our dear native land of Nigeria and decimate her detractors.

you're talking in the rubbish talking in the nonsense...

fk001:
Proudly a northerner. I kept on saying if I were to choose where to be born in my next life, I will definitely choose north. (Arewa) again and again.


God bless Arewa

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Yes but THUNDA FAYA LUGARD SERIOUSLY

Arrewa:
Killer herdsmen are sponsored political criminals...

Their atrocities is has no boundary...

And they and their Cows are too big for buhari/burantashi/DSS to see abi, compared to how it's easy for them to see massob/ipob!!! They even saw a certain disgruntled 70yrs old man and two others expressing their disgust for the ways things are and got them jailed!!!

Don't worry, your time will come

InlandTaipan84:

you're talking in the rubbish talking in the nonsense...

One of the detractors of our dear native land.

ladyGKilaBCrueD:
is that all?

ooo really

lol

Openbusiness:

Thanks, you have said enough!

Thanks for your contribution

Not bad

Lol..
bros u no tell me any fact ooo cos you dey completely ignorant.
Some Igbo guys sef fit read your comment dey laff you.
I can swear with my life that no igbo will ever wish to be hausa sincerely no igbo will ever want to be called a citizen of another igbo state talk more of hausa.

I'm from anambra but will not talk it likely with anybody that will mistake me for another igbo state , every state in igbo is fucking proud of him state.

We never gree answer yoruba wey stand up na hausa wey sit we wan be .

Theevilone:

Lol..
bros u no tell me any fact ooo cos you dey completely ignorant.
Some Igbo guys sef fit read your comment dey laff you.
I can swear with my life that no igbo will ever wish to be hausa sincerely no igbo will ever want to be called a citizen of another igbo state talk more of hausa.

I'm from anambra but will not talk it likely with anybody that will mistake me for another igbo state , every state in igbo is fucking proud of him state.

We never gree answer yoruba wey stand up na hausa wey sit we wan be .

we have Igbos here in kano who don't want to be called Igbos... They get angry when you call them Igbos... They prefer being kanawa...

Arrewa:
I will... I don't hate Igbos...

I'm just after some tribal and religious bigots

Shut up your dirty mouth you hypocrite. See who is calling another bigot. You are the biggest bigot.
Anu mpama

mu2sa2:
They're making us proud by showing that nigerians are generally good, disciplined, reliable people - the few drug dealers, 419ners, internet fraudsters and other bad eggs do not represent who we are as a people. Besides, it shows the north has many great guys, contrary to what evil-minded foreigners are feeding a section of the country over a pirate radio station.
May God continue to bless our dear native land of Nigeria and decimate her detractors.

Meanwhile there thousands of southerners in us army and are also high rank officers for that matter.

Arrewa:
I'm the most misunderstood person on Nairaland...

Pls I don't hate igbos... I'm only after religious and tribal bigots!

I'm making them experience how it feels to stereotype and condemn a whole region!

No tribe has the monopoly of bigotry!

Sincerely speaking ,You're the and most stupid person on this forum. Sha I didn't expect much from you and your melon seed brain

Theevilone:



Meanwhile there thousands of southerners in us army and are also high rank officers for that matter.

is southerners a tribe?

BlueBanana:

Sincerely speaking ,You're the and most stupid person on this forum. Sha I didn't expect much from you and your melon seed brain

lol... I know you're in pains! There's nothing you can do about the new generation of Hausafulani...expect more from us

Arrewa:
lol... I know you're in pains! There's nothing you can do about the new generation of Hausafulani...expect more from us

New generation ko, old generation ni
Hausas are two centuries backward. I don't have a problem with them developing because they have a lot of catching up to do with the South.

I however do have a problem with your antics here, always trying to shade the SE with your "new generation" threads. SE is not your mate. Stop the hate, it won't get you or your tribe anywhere.