Bobonnukwu:

*YAWN* your attempt at been witty are as dry as your mothers vaginal walls, stop boring me with your humpty dumpty hungry self my boy

E pain am.

Like Mystiquefia has said, self determination is not an exclusive right, preserved for anyone & those who share in their ideology. So provided the minorities are okay with whatever they come up with, then we can always look for ways to iron our differences.

@Nowenuse.

This thread depicts of an eyesore.

No unity of purpose, everyone is cunningly fighting for their tribe.

It's a shame we show this much hatred amongst ourselves down south with the insults flying around here.

Bobonnukwu:

Because I hate double standards, on one hand you accuse the entire IGBOS of trying to force non-Igbo speaking tribes from the Niger Delta into Biafra, despite resounding rebuttals from many Igbos who have made it clear that the few unintelligent IPOB members who do that don't speak for the entire Igbos. Yet you guys still find every way to insult the Igbos (like what can you minorities put together even boast of in all indices of achievements that the Igbos haven't achieved ten times more)?, if the reason for the arrogance is oil, there's a huge reserve of oil in many Igbo speaking parts of Rivers state, including Imo and Abia states. Now my point is, I find it hypocritical that you accuse the Igbos of forcing others to join Biafra when only a minority of them do that nonsense, yet I'm seeing way too many of you trying to create a Niger Delta nomenclature without even having the respect to consult and affirm if the other ethnic nationalities in the South South actually want to form a republic or stay on their own, get my point now?

My own be say make una no go make mistake include Anioma for una Niger Delta republic, except you want another Biafran war 2.0 in your so called republic.

The Urhobos progress union (UPU), the Ijaw Youth Congress (IYC), and other socio-cultural groups representing the different tribes in the region have warned IPOB to remove them from their phantom Biafra map, yet IPOB still insist on forcing a referedum down their throats. IPOB speaks for the Igbos when it comes to Biafra issues, so until they remove the lands of people that have rejected them from their phantom map, discussions like this will keep arising. As long as there are Igbos who still want to force us to their phantom Biafra, then expect members of the minorities to keep drumming it to your ears to remove them from your phantom countries.

As for the double standards, nobody is agitating for Niger Delta republic yet and no non-igbo speaking group has come out to reject it unlike Biafra. Timing is everything. My post is just informing prophets of doom that a country formed by the non-igbo speaking parts of the south south can thrive successfully.

It is an open secret that some parts of aniomas deny that they are Igbos. So they need to decide themselves where they want to be.

And by the way, what has the Igbos achieve that minorities should start trembling and prostrating when they see an Igbo man? Has the Igbo man transform his land to London and Dubai yet? Is the East not as underdeveloped as the other parts of the country. Has the Igbo man won a Nobel price? Has any Igbo man made it to Forbe's billionaires list? Is every Igbo man a billionaire? Please, come n tell me what an Igbo man has achieved that no one else has done? One thing you guys don't know is that most of us have stayed in the East, so you guys cannot come here and paint a different picture for us.

This issue never still end.

Nowenuse:


You see, Tivs, Igalas, Idomas, Ebiras & Nupes are part of the Middlebelt, but I as a Plateau man will never want to share a country with these people if Nigeria divides. Cos I know how these people reason.
They reason just like you SS tribes.

Larger ethnic groups tend to have a stronger form of nationalism.
You see these middlebelt tribes I listed above?, they have not even had very bloody conflicts with each other like you Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris or Ogonis have had with each other, yet I do not need a soothsayer to tell me that Igalas, Idomas, Igedes, Tivs & Ebiras can never ever form a country together as one people in peace.

It will never work! Cos everyone is suspicious of each other and does not trust the other.
Will the capital of such country be in Tiv land? Idoma land? Igala land or Ebira land?

See, do not mistake intra-ethnic rivalry for inter-ethnic one, they are not the same thing!
Ebiras behead each other in their clan fights in Okene, but when it comes to politics, they readily keep that aside to unite against the Igalas.
Tivs fight each other, but when it comes to fight Jukuns and steal their lands, they are united.

People of the same ethnicity can always settle their differences and live together under one political union, but it is not always so for multi-ethnic places. Especially when these tribes are very large.
But when these tribes are smaller, unity is far better and easier, that is what I was telling Blackking98 when he was laughing at Ogoja people .....But he thinks I just want to attack his AkwaIbom-Efik people.
Ogoja people can always live together under one political union in love and peace cos they are dozens of ethnic groups and they all know that they cannot do without each other.

I am even happy that many Tivs, Idomas & Igalas know that they cannot share one country with each other hence they propose their own Takururu, Apa & Okura republics.

Urhobos, Esans, Binis, Etsakos and even Isokos have strong nationalistic tendencies. It's not as if you people even have one language that unites you people.... I share in your optimism, but you and I know that such a union will never work.
The average Esan man is still very bitter of the fact that Benin is his state capital.
Then u think he will still agree for Benin to be his new country's capital?
Can't you see how much your own Urhobo people are so so pained that Asaba is your state capital? And u think your people will allow Benin to be a state capital again?


The best thing for your people could be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or everyone has his country and then you form something like the EU.
Nigerdeltan republic, Midwest republic, Akwa-cross republic can never see the daylight of unity and progress.
You guys should take this from me as someone who has been into 'minorities agitation & unity' for the last 10 years.

Before, I used to think that my people can form a progressive bond or nation with the Tivs, Idomas, Igalas & Ebiras as one Middlebelt republic, but God forbid.
We have nothing in common that unites us.

But when you say Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Nasarawa, FCT, Taraba, Adamawa, Southern Gombe & Southern Borno. We are one people with same culture, same mentality, same orientation and over 150 tribes united by Hausa language/Christian values.


What will be the uniting factor for the Nigerdelta republics? Language? Oil? Geography?
I can't even say Religion cos you people do not take Christianity as a serious identity unlike those of us in the middlebelt.


@Efe2real,. I was born in Warri.

Who owns Okere? Pessu? Aladja? Ogbe-ijoh market in Warri urban?
How do you carve out and separate Okere, Okere-Urhobo, Agbassa, Ekurede-urhobo, Ekurede-Itsekiri, Ajamimogha, Ogunu e.t.c from each other into separate regions without a war?

Let us not even talk about the Itsekiri & Ijaw towns offshore where u find one Itsekiri town surrounded by Ijaw towns and vice versa.

Hmm, I just hope and pray that God gives your leaders extreme wisdom & tolerance to conduct your affairs if Nigeria divides, because ehn your region will be a pure battleground.

When last did you hear of ethnic crises in Warri? Is Warri not even a testimony that any union with the other tribes in the region will work. There are 3 tribes in Warri, yet they have not killed themselves. Apart from 1999 crises, has any major crises occur in Warri ? Hope you are aware that the cause of the 1999 Warri crises was caused because the headquarters of Warri south west was shifted from Ogbe-Ijoh to Ogidigben? It wasn't really a matter that started from Warri itself, but it spilled over to Warri. So it wasn't cause by a land dispute; politics was the actual cause, which will be discussed and agreements can be reached.

So Y will there be a war when everybody knows their boundary.

For Itsekiris and Ijaw towns offshore, they are living in peace in Nigeria, so I don't know why anything will change outside Nigeria?

spiritmasquerad:
I am from anioma and i have met multiple Igbo's who have always tell me we are not real igbo's and i'm gud with dat but the continous dragging us to join biafa when we where never part of the eastern in the first place

Yorubastard Muslim
Be proud of your Afonjic tribe

omonnakoda:


What makes you think you will be ALLOWED to keep all the land that you currently occupy, Before looking to add to it?

It is not a given

Don't be naive.
What can you do if you are granted Biafra and evacuated into 3 of the 5 states you currently occupy?

Ask the Palestinians to enlighten you

You're a zombie

pazienza:


Lol!
Israel is a world power. The land was originally Israel's.
Nigeria is a failed poverty stricken Third World embarrassment of a country.
You have not the capacity to take Biafran lands, not without the unconditional support of world powers, which will not happen.
Stop dreaming and go eat your Ewedu.
Why are your people this evil hearted, I wouldn't know.
But I know I want Ndiigbo quickly separated from Yorubas as soon as possible, the toxicity emanating from your camp, is suffocating, you make the devil look like a saint.

All they do is think and wish evil to the Easterners for just no reason.
Afonjas should be thinking of uniting with their brothers from Benin Republic and Togo to form one powerful or homogeneous country in Africa. They can be like Canada that speak English and French or they work on their Yoruba language.

If I was Afonja, that's what I would be thinking.
Yoruba nation is divided into 4 countries... Togo, Benin Republic, Nigeria and Ghana yet they leave their nation to poke others.
They should be thinking of reunification with their people.

Everyone is a looser in Nigeria.

Nwanyiogwashi:
why are afraid of meeting me in your own village since you're from idumuje unor ,you're from idumuje unor I said let meet in your obi's palace you're calling me an outsider, is your obi an outsider too I choose a safe place for you?or let's meet in Asaba for you to say that aniocha north is not Igbo land you hit yourself Mister let's meet in idumuje unor guy

Why are you spending time with that Yoruba Muslim?

He said he's from Aniocha and some people told him that he's not Igbo and you're here replying him

BeerParlour:


Yorubastard Muslim
Be proud of your Afonjic tribe

Take your racist, tribalist & bigot ass out of am mention, go open a book and educate yourself. Oh i forgot u guys don't read book that tell you truth

Noneroone:
I asked a SIMPLY QUESTION but the majority of your response came from your irrelevant personal stories. The only thing I picked from your response is that you will reach out to men and women wing of town unions and gauge their opinions. My simple question is if majority of these town unions under heavy financial inducements of the government reject Biafra, will you drop the agitation? pls give me a simple answer and leave KANU and ipob out of it for now.

Pazienza I'm still waiting for your response. Pls stop avoiding my questions.

[quote author=pazienza post=89259503]

Emphasis on "Were". Modern reality overshadows the past.

Modern reality is that republic of Igboland "must" reach out to all Igboid groups in Delta and Edo (Igbanke), and only desire Igbo speaking groups in Rivers, Cross River (Isobo) few Ndoki Villages in Akwa Ibom and Igbos of NC( Umuezekoha).
After discussions, any of those groups that opt out of Igbo union will be publicly declared to have done so, and the map of Igboland redrawn to exclude such groups.

I personally don't see any link between an Akoko Edo man and an Obubra man in Cross River, but that's their headache to worry about. I personally don't want any minority in Biafra, because the Biafra of my dreams is a strictly Igbo speaking nation with no room to accommodate any non Igbo speaking groups.
I want a nation in the mode of Germany. Typical ethnically homogeneous stable countries punching in the commmity of nations]

Are 4getting they became so intolorent that the holocust happened

efe2real:


When last did you hear of ethnic crises in Warri? Is Warri not even a testimony that any union with the other tribes in the region will work. There are 3 tribes in Warri, yet they have not killed themselves. Apart from 1999 crises, has any major crises occur in Warri ? Hope you are aware that the cause of the 1999 Warri crises was caused because the headquarters of Warri south west was shifted from Ogbe-Ijoh to Ogidigben? It wasn't really a matter that started from Warri itself, but it spilled over to Warri. So it wasn't cause by a land dispute; politics was the actual cause, which will be discussed and agreements can be reached.

So Y will there be a war when everybody knows their boundary.

For Itsekiris and Ijaw towns offshore, they are living in peace in Nigeria, so I don't know why anything will change outside Nigeria?

Things will change outside Nigeria because people that control of security structure will change. During the warrior crisis the itshekiri accused the armed forces of siding with the ijaws. Imagine a situation where either of the warring ethnic groups will control the structure of the armed forces in your future country. sometimes I wonder why IPOB had to include the that western Niger delta(warri area) in Biafra map but I realized that settlement in this area is so intertwine that it is often a source of conflict. you can't seperate each from the rest without triggering sectarian conflict and land dispute .There is so much mistrust among them. During the agitation for delta state creation, itshekiris were not enthusiastic like the urhobo who feel it's their state. In fact ownership claims over warri was the reason itshekiris opposed the idea of making it capital of Delta state. This is why I shake my head when some of you from urhobo grandstand with the nebulous idea of a Niger delta republic.

efe2real:


When last did you hear of ethnic crises in Warri? Is Warri not even a testimony that any union with the other tribes in the region will work. There are 3 tribes in Warri, yet they have not killed themselves. Apart from 1999 crises, has any major crises occur in Warri ? Hope you are aware that the cause of the 1999 Warri crises was caused because the headquarters of Warri south west was shifted from Ogbe-Ijoh to Ogidigben? It wasn't really a matter that started from Warri itself, but it spilled over to Warri. So it wasn't cause by a land dispute; politics was the actual cause, which will be discussed and agreements can be reached.

So Y will there be a war when everybody knows their boundary.

For Itsekiris and Ijaw towns offshore, they are living in peace in Nigeria, so I don't know why anything will change outside Nigeria?

Nowenuse has an inferiority complex problem, he can't praise his minorities without dragging ijaws, ibibios, urhobos,tivs,igala etc in the mud. I don't know what is his problem really.

Nowenuse:


I lived much of my life in the SS and take it from me.
Isokos will never join Urhobos to form one country together. They love their autonomy.

Edos can never form one country together. Esans & Binis will never agree. Even Afemai people cannot be a country of their own cos Owan & Akoko-Edo people resent Etsako. At most, Esan & Afemai can form a country.

Annang & Efik people will never join Ibibios to form a country. They resent Ibibios. Oros on the other hand love Efiks. They and Efiks can form one country.

Ikas & Ndokwas will gladly form one country with each other and even with the Enuanis. Anioma people love themselves, inspite of their pro-Igbo and Anti-Igbo differences.

Northern/Central Cross River people like each other. They can gladly form a country with each other and no one will be afraid of domination cos they are all minority tribes there and no one tribe has a majority status.

The SS will be like 8 countries.

you don't know anything about Edo state or their history so why are you dishing out your false opinions on the public??

Where did you learn that benins, esan and afemai can't work together?

TheGodlessGod:
you don't know anything about Edo state or their history so why are you dishing out your false opinions on the public??

Where did you learn that benins, esan and afemai can't work together?

he also claims to have lived in calabar and ibibios, efiks, Annang and Oro hate each other. If a child should ask you what agent of division means just show him Nowenuse post.

Nowenuse:


Nice one.

As someone (not Igbo) who grew up in Warri and witnessed the katakata there, I would like to know how you, mystiquefia & Efewestern think Warri will be divided along Itsekiri, Ijaw & Urhobo ethnic lines into autonomous rescource controlling region without a war.

Why ashamed of your ethnicity?

Why always telling everyone you're not Igbo, every thread, I'm not Igbo, I'm not Igbo; who asked you?

Why are you so obsessed with perfection of Biafra and at the same time looking for loop holes in others' ambitions?

You 'Igboboy' from plateau without a particular tribe should know that if these people can't survive as Niger Delta Republic, what will now make them survive as Biafra.

Leave these people alone to decide for themselves, that's what they're telling you guys for ages but you want them at all costs. After all you're already the 'spokesperson' for Igbos and all the ethnic groups in the middle belt!

I don't have advice for you guys but you should know that many ethnic, language, cultural groups cut across many countries. Look at Hausas, Barubas, Fulanis, Yorubas, Asantes, Cush, Bantus, Germans, Turks, Slavs, Jews, etc. Why the trouble every day?

Biafra will come easily with SE states, let others that want to join agitate afterwards instead of playing unnecessary mind game. For instance, Southern Cameroon joined Cameroon from Nigeria after independence.
We will not be where we are today if the senseless colonial masters had not forced us together but willingly come together.

Noneroone:
I asked a SIMPLY QUESTION but the majority of your response came from your irrelevant personal stories. The only thing I picked from your response is that you will reach out to men and women wing of town unions and gauge their opinions. My simple question is if majority of these town unions under heavy financial inducements of the government reject Biafra, will you drop the agitation? pls give me a simple answer and leave KANU and ipob out of it for now.

The grassroots are not under influence of Nigerian government. If you go about it discretely. You would get a response devoid of greedy Nigerian politicians interest.
If you get a negative interest, discard them as well. Work with SE, that would be good enough.

You discarded my personal investigative voyage on these minorities easily. But these are how the advanced white men do. They do underground grassroots research. Those are not just personal experiences, they are investigative/probing expeditions.
Check out the below similar probe by the British using few British bodies in Eastern region to gauge the response of Eastern minorities towards Biafra when the Biafran war was about breaking out.

"In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on the background, cause and consequences of the Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by more than sixty British subjects, including Sir Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of the 37 percent of the population which they estimated that minority group represented in Biafra, only 10% would favour continued association with the federal government". The. New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8. April 23, 1970

How did you think the British got this info? They didn't need any Referendum or questionnaire, they did investigative journalism. Went to the grassroots in those places to gauge the people response.

This was necessary because Ojukwu himself knew that even though some politicians in Eastern minorities area and a significant percent of the grassroot were against Biafra, he also knew that the majority were for Biafra or at least would choose Biafra over Nigeria, if those were the only options on the table.
So when Gowon and Minorities elites in Nigerian government were accusing Ndiigbo and Biafra of forcefully coercing Eastern minorities into Biafra, Ojukwu and Effiong gleefully asked for a UN and OAU supervised referendum to be conducted in the minority areas of Biafra, if Nigeria truly believed the lie of Biafra forcefully holding minority areas they were propagating.

Gowon and Awolowo armed with this British intelligence report I posted, refused to accept the option of a referendum on the minorities area, they knew they would lose the referendum and would have no propaganda to run along with thereafter.


But this was in 1967, once they seized power, the Minorities Nigerian leaders made sure they slowly planted Igbophobic mindsets into their people, their leaders who were Igbophilic were tagged enemies of the people and made to abdicate throne or become Igbophobic. Asari grandfather being pro Biafra refused to become Igbophobic and instead decided to abdicate his Buguma throne. Asari speaks extensively of this during his interviews. Igbophillic Kogbara who was the natural Ogoni leader was subsumed under Igbophobic Saro Wiwa who was powered by the FG to become the new Ogoni leader.

Things have changed in the minorities area. Just like the British didn't need a referendum to know that the minorities grassroots on the majority would have rejected Nigeria for Biafra, IPOB if they are wise, would also not need a referendum to know that the grassroots vibe in Eastern minorities areas today is a very anti Biafra one and that a referendum would lead to an overwhelming defeat for Biafra.

We must know and do better unless IPOB like the Nigerian government in 1967 are more interested in propaganda than on the truth, I don't understand why we must continue pretending like referendum is the only means to gauge the Igbophobic vibes emanating from SS. It smacks of self deceit and would never help us.

Biafrannuke:
Every Ibibio/efik/annang know where he belongs, every ijaw no matter the individual ethnic difference he may have with Igbo know where he belongs, I have been to otukpo several times, everyone of them knows where idoma/igede and southern igala belong when the time comes to choose between Biafra and Nigeria. There are even some middle belt groups not included in the map like those in southern Kaduna and Jos that wants to be included without success. Philip effiong junior accused IPOB of not carrying minorities along while some idealistic fools on nairaland who claim to be igbos now accuse IPOB of "dragging minorities". Many of them are compromised but hiding under one stupid reason or another.

Your comment is useless and senseless. It is not your duty to fight for any other groups. If they want Biafra, they should gather themselves together and start waving biafran flag from there we can take them serious. You are not their Messiah.

You stupid assumptions are the reason why some nonentities are feeling important like anybody give a Bleep about them.

Restrict your IPOB activities to Igbo groups alone. If others are ready, let them start the movement in their land.

Stop bringing disrespect to great Igbo race.

IDENNAA:


I was expecting those lengthy gibberish you typically publish. Stop acting like Igbo is begging you because Pazienza has addressed you in fullness as my other brother...man nobi God! You lot have been exposed as empty vessels on this thread...we dont need SS , ND etc....only Ignoid. Case closed !

Gbam.

pazienza:


The grassroots are not under influence of Nigerian government. If you go about it discretely. You would get a response devoid of greedy Nigerian politicians interest.
If you get a negative interest, discard them as well. Work with SE, that would be good enough.

You discarded my personal investigative voyage on these minorities easily. But these are how the advanced white men do. They do underground grassroots research. Those are not just personal experiences, they are investigative/probing expeditions.
Check out the below similar probe by the British using few British bodies in Eastern region to gauge the response of Eastern minorities towards Biafra when the Biafran war was about breaking out.

"In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on the background, cause and consequences of the Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by more than sixty British subjects, including Sir Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of the 37 percent of the population which they estimated that minority group represented in Biafra, only 10% would favour continued association with the federal government". The. New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8. April 23, 1970

How did you think the British got this info? They didn't need any Referendum or questionnaire, they did investigative journalism. Went to the grassroots in those places to gauge the people response.

This was necessary because Ojukwu himself knew that even though some politicians in Eastern minorities area and a significant percent of the grassroot were against Biafra, he also knew that the majority were for Biafra or at least would choose Biafra over Nigeria, if those were the only options on the table.

So when Gowon and Minorities elites in Nigerian government were accusing Ndiigbo and Biafra of forcefully coercing Eastern minorities into Biafra, Ojukwu and Effiong gleefully asked for a UN and OAU supervised referendum to be conducted in the minority areas of Biafra, if Nigeria truly believed the lie of Biafra forcefully holding minority areas they were propagating.

Gowon and Awolowo armed with this British intelligence report I posted, refused to accept the option of a referendum on the minorities area, they knew they would lose the referendum and would have no propaganda to run along with thereafter.


But this was in 1967, once they seized power, the Minorities Nigerian leaders made sure they slowly planted Igbophobic mindsets into their people, their leaders who were Igbophilic were tagged enemies of the people and made to abdicate throne or become Igbophobic. Asari grandfather being pro Biafra refused to become Igbophobic and instead decided to abdicate his Buguma throne. Asari speaks extensively of this during his interviews. Igbophillic Kogbara who was the natural Ogoni leader was subsumed under Igbophobic Saro Wiwa who was powered by the FG to become the new Ogoni leader.

Things have changed in the minorities area. Just like the British didn't need a referendum to know that the minorities grassroots on the majority would have rejected Nigeria for Biafra, IPOB if they are wise, would also not need a referendum to know that the grassroots vibe in Eastern minorities areas today is a very anti Biafra one and that a referendum would lead to an overwhelming defeat for Biafra.

We must know and do better unless IPOB like the Nigerian government in 1967 are more interested in propaganda than on the truth, I don't understand why we must continue pretending like referendum is the only means to gauge the Igbophobic vibes emanating from SS. It smacks of self deceit and would never help us.

I LIKE THE BOLDED.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE FROM DELTA AND EDO.

THOSE MIX WITH YORUBA THAT ARE A TINY GROUP OF PEOPLE BUT VERY LOUD AND THE NATIVES.

EFE AND FRA ARE YORUBA MIX AND THAT IS Y THEY REASON LIKE AFONJA.

THE REAL PEOPLE IN THAT REGION ARE ALL OVER YOUTUBE DECLARING THEIR STATE AS BIAFRA TERRITORY.

FIRST THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT NIGERDELTA OR SS IS AS MUCH A FRAUD AS NIGERIA.

WAT WE HAVE IS MULTIPLE ETHIC GROUPS AND EVEN SUPER TINY ETHNIC GROUP ON THE WATER FRONT OF THE RIVER NIGER AND ATLANTIC OCEAN.


ONE EFE CANNOT COME HERE AND DECIDE FOR IME IN AKWA IBOM OR EVEN ITOHAN OF ESAN LAND.


HE CANNOT EVEN SPEAK FOR URHOBO BECOS AMONG I KNOW SEVERAL URHOBO ACCOUNT ON YOUTUBE SING BIAFRA NATIONAL ATHEM AND PREACHING BIAFRA ON A DAILY BASES.


ALOT OF THEM ARE ON THE DOORS STEP OF IPOB AND ASKING TO BE FULL PARTICIPANT.


SOME HAVE EVEN ADDED THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE THOSE THAT WERE WITH US FROM THE START.


THIS IS Y I STOPED WASTING MY TIME WITH ALL THESE YORUBA BREEDS ON NAIRALAND.



WATCH THIS VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczkInJgRQ8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjkMvUhUlyk

WAT DOES AN URHOBO MAN HAVE IN COMMON WITH IBIBIO.

DO U KNOW THE BOND BETWEEN AKWA IBOM AND ABIA AND BY EXTENSION THE ENTIRE IGBOLAND.

IS THEIR ANY GROUP, IGBO TRUST MORE THAN AKWA IBOMITE?

YET ONE EFEWESTERN ON NAIRALAND WILL CARRY AKWA IBOM AND BE SHOUTING NIGERDELTA.

YET THEY OPPOSE AKPABIO AS MINISTER FOR NIGER DELTA DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IF U WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING TODAY IN NIGERDELTA, URHOBO AND IJAW WILL FIRST FIGHT OVER IT.

THIS PEOPLE HERE ARE INSANE AND SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN YORUBA PRETENDING TO BE FROM URHOBO.

..

hammerP:



I LIKE THE BOLDED.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE FROM DELTA AND EDO.

THOSE MIX WITH YORUBA THAT ARE A TINY GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THE NATIVES.

EFE AND FRA ARE YORUBA MIX AND THAT IS Y THEY REASON LIKE AFONJA.

THE REAL PEOPLE IN THAT REGION ARE ALL OVER YOUTUBE DECLARING THEIR STATE AS BIAFRA TERRITORY.

FIRST THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT NIGERDELTA OR SS IS AS MUCH A FRAUD AS NIGERIA.

WAT WE HAVE IS MULTIPLE ETHIC GROUPS AND EVEN SUPER TINY ETHNIC GROUP ON THE WATER FRONT OF THE RIVER NIGER AND ATLANTIC OCEAN.


ONE EFE CANNOT COME HERE AND DECIDE FOR IME IN AKWA IBOM OR EVEN ITOHAN OF ESAN LAND.


HE CANNOT EVEN SPEAK FOR URHOBO BECOS AMONG I KNOW SEVERAL URHOBO ACCOUNT ON YOUTUBE SING BIAFRA NATIONAL ATHEM AND PREACHING BIAFRA ON A DAILY BASES.


ALOT OF THEM ARE ON THE DOORS STEP OF IPOB AND ASKING TO BE FULL PARTICIPANT.


SOME HAVE EVEN ADDED THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE THOSE THAT WERE WITH US FROM THE START.


THIS IS Y I STOPED WASTING MY TIME WITH ALL THESE YORUBA BREEDS ON NAIRALAND.



WATCH THIS VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oczkInJgRQ8

Nwanne, everything is not about Yorubas .
The part you "bolded" is what existed in the past.
It no longer exists in the present. Ndiigbo must learn to live in the present.

The present reality is that the average southern minorities are anti Biafra by default. It's inbuilt, maybe immediate post Biafra the Yoruba media played a role in that. But that's no longer obtainable today.
Today. These lots are Anti Biafra "de novo" and by default. The Yorubas have nothing to do with it. This whole simplification of everything to Yorubaphobic perspective is crazy and must stop. As far as feelings towards the Igbo is concerned, the Southern minorities are not different from Yorubas, we must make peace with this and stop labelling them Yorubas when they exhibit same behavior towards the Igbo we are all too acostomed to seeing Yorubas exhibit.

When people show you their true colors, don't try to paint them to a different color you prefer, accept them the way they are, make peace with the reality, use it to your own advantage, you will certainly be better on the long run for it. Self deceit will not help us, the past 50yrs have taught us so.

Udo.

hammerP:
WAT DOES AN URHOBO MAN HAVE IN COMMON WITH IBIBIO.

DO U KNOW THE BOND BETWEEN AKWA IBOM AND ABIA AND BY EXTENSION THE ENTIRE IGBOLAND.

IS THEIR ANY GROUP, IGBO TRUST MORE THAN AKWA IBOMITE?

YET ONE EFEWESTERN ON NAIRALAND WILL CARRY AKWA IBOM AND BE SHOUTING NIGERDELTA.

YET THEY OPPOSE AKPABIO AS MINISTER FOR NIGER DELTA DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IF U WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING TODAY IN NIGERDELTA, URHOBO AND IJAW WILL FIRST FIGHT OVER IT.

THIS PEOPLE HERE ARE INSANE AND SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN YORUBA PRETENDING TO BE FROM URHOBO.

Quit the emotions already nwanne.
Akwa ibomites are nothing but our neighbours nothing more and nothing less.

Stop antagonizing Urhobos and Ijaws. Stop the emotions. Those lots are only looking out for their own interests. Rather than dwelling in the emotions of claiming brotherhood with neighbors that see you as nothing but a potential invader. While not be more pragmatic and understand that they are just humans protecting their own interests ? Why not learn to protect your own interests as well?

If Urhobo, Ijaw and Ibibio interest align, as it currently align due to oil politics of Nigeria, you are not in position to brief them on what and what they have in common and not in common.
This whole thing is becoming childish.

Ndiigbo can, and should do better. We have to start reasoning better.

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Nwanne, everything is not about Yorubas .
The part you "bolded" is what existed in the past.
It no longer exists in the present. Ndiigbo must learn to live in the presence.

The present reality is that the average southern minorities are anti Biafra by default. It's inbuilt, maybe immediate post Biafra the Yoruba media played a role in that. But that's no longer obtainable today.
Today. These lots are Anti Biafra "de novo" and by default. The Yorubas have nothing to do with it. This whole simplification of everything to Yorubaphobic perspective is crazy and must stop. As far as feelings towards the Igbo is concerned, the Southern minorities are not different from Yorubas, we must make peace with this and stop labelling them Yorubas when they exhibit same behavior towards the Igbo we are all too acostomed to seeing Yorubas exhibit.

When people show you their true colors, don't try to paint them to a different color you prefer, accept them the way they are, make peace with the reality, use it to your own advantage, you will certainly be better on the long run for it. Self deceit will not help us, the past 50yrs have taught us so.

Udo.

TWO THINGS, U MUST UNDERSTAND.

WE ARE NOT ETHNOCENTRIC, NO.


THAT IS NOT THE REASON WE ARE LEAVING NIGERIA.


WE ARE LEAVING BECOS OF THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM YORUBA AND HAUSA ARE OPERATING.

THE GREED AND LOOTING OF THE RESOURCES OF THE EASTERN PART OF NIGERIA.


IT APPEARS TO US, THAT YORUBA AND HAUSA ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN PRESIDENCY AS AN AVENUE TO CORNER THE RESOURCES OF EASTERN PART OF NIGERIA AIDED BY BRITAIN.

AFTER LAGOS,THE RESOURCES WAS USED TO DEVELOP ABUJA, BUT THE SE REGION FROM EDO TO ANAMBRA AND CROSS RIVER ARE LEFT OUT WITH NOTHING TO SHOW.


THIS IS Y WE ARE LIVING, SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER PLACE AND LIFE FOR OUR PEOPLE.


IF THE GAS IN IMO COME ONLINE AND THAT IN ANAMBRA AND ABIA AND RIVERS ARE ACTIVATED TOMORROW, IT WILL STILL BE 10% FOR OUR STATE AND THE REST WILL GO AS NATIONAL CAKE.


THIS IS Y WE HAVE TO LEAVE.


WE WANT OUR COUNTRY TO BE VIABLE WITH ETHNIC GROUP WITH WHICH WE SHARE SIMILARITIES.

I AM A PRO NIGERIAN.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF EVEN EXPANDING NIGERIA FURTHER TO BRING IN NIGER REPUBLIC, CAMEROON, BENIN AND TOGO.

YES!

I AM NEVER A TRIBALIST BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME BLIND TO THE FACT OF WAT YORUBA AND HAUSA ARE UPTO IN BROAD DAY LIGHT RIGHT BEFORE ALL OUR EYES.


AFTER LOOTING THEY BURN OFFICE, IN BROAD DAY LIGHT.


GO ROUND TO YOUR VILLAGES, RAPE YOUR MOTHER AND SISTER AND WIFE AND SHOOT YOUR FATHER IN BROAD DAY LIGHT.


YET U WANT TO CONTINUE?


CLEARLY SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE BRAIN.


IPOB WILL NO LONGER INDULGE PEOPLE WHO REASON WORST THAN ANIMALS.


WE WILL ONLY DEAL WITH REASONABLE PEOPLE.

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TWO THINGS, U MUST UNDERSTAND.

WE ARE NOT ETHNOCENTRIC, NO.


THAT IS NOT THE REASON WE ARE LIVING NIGERIA.


WE ARE LIVING BECOS OF THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM YORUBA AND HAUSA ARE OPERATING.

THE GREED AND LOOTING OF THE RESOURCES OF THE EASTERN PART OF NIGERIA.


IT APPEARS TO US, THAT YORUBA AND HAUSA ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN PRESIDENCY AS AN AVENUE TO CORNER THE RESOURCES OF EASTERN PART OF NIGERIA.

AFTER LAGOS,THE RESOURCES WAS USED TO DEVELOP ABUJA, BUT THE SE REGION FROM EDO TO ANAMBRA AND CROSS RIVER ARE LEFT OUT WITH NOTHING TO SHOW.


THIS IS Y WE ARE LIVING, SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER PLACE AND LIFE FOR OUR PEOPLE.


IF THE GAS IN IMO COME ONLINE AND THAT IN ANAMBRA AND ABIA AND RIVERS ARE ACTIVATED TOMORROW, IT WILL STILL BE 10% FOR OUR STATE AND THE REST WILLGO AS NATIONAL CAKE.


THIS IS Y WE HAVE TO LEAVE.


WE WANT OUR COUNTRY TO BE VIABLE WITH ETHNIC GROUP WITH WHICH WE SHARE SIMILARITIES.

You are still beclouded by emotions. We need clarity of thought process to navigate the labyrinth of complexity that is Nigeria if we must come out unhurt.
The way you are currently going will lead to nothing short of catastrophy.

To begin with. Ndiigbo must become ETHNOCENTRIC. We must learn to ruthlessly put only Igbo interests first and foremost when dealing with other Nigerian groups, we must show no remorse when need arises to throw any group with interests in clash with us under the bus if we get the opportunity. This is why IPOB must Igbonize and purge from itself all non Igbo members. Izu ka mma na nneji!
If we must survive Nigeria, we must start relating with Nigerians like how they relate with us. Only those whose interest aligns with us at that very moment, would be seen as friends at that very moment.

It should be none of your interest if resources from Cross River, Rivers or any Minority area is being used to develop Lagos or Abuja. We must learn to mind our own business and not dissipate energy on ventures we don't stand to benefit directly from. Energy is not limitless, it must be conserved and channelled to areas where direct impact would serve Igbo only interests. We must learn to let the dead bury themselves.

Nwanne, alot needs to be changed in the way Ndiigbo relate to the rest of Nigeria, especially those in the area you call SS. We need a paradigm shift, led by a highly cerebral group who must know that to achieve Biafra, Ndiigbo must get our politics in Nigeria right and to do this, we must be in total control of our political representation within Nigeria.
Charity must begin at home.

Igbo bu ndi nwere uche na mbu. Igbo ka bukwa ndi nwere uche ma tata!

Chukwu gozie gi.

pazienza:


You are still beclouded by emotions. We need clarity of thought process to navigate the labyrinth of complexity that is Nigeria if we must come out unhurt.
The way you are currently going will lead to nothing short of catastrophy.

To begin with. Ndiigbo must become ETHNOCENTRIC. We must learn to ruthlessly put only Igbo interests first and foremost when dealing with other Nigerian groups, we must show no remorse when need arises to through any group with interests in clash with us under the bus if we get the opportunity.
If we must survive Nigeria, we must start relating with Nigerians like how they relate with us. Only those whose interest aligns with us at that very moment, would be seen as friends at that very moment.

It should be none of your interest if resources from Cross River, Rivers or any Minority area is being used to develop Lagos or Abuja. We must learn to mind our own business and not dissipate energy on ventures we don't stand to benefit directly from. Energy is not limitless, it must be conserved and channelled to areas where direct impact would serve Igbo only interests. We must learn to let the dead bury themselves.

Nwanne, alot needs to be changed in the way Ndiigbo relate to the rest of Nigeria, especially those in the area you call SS. We need a paradigm shift, led by a highly cerebral group who must know that to achieve Biafra, Ndiigbo must get our politics in Nigeria right and to do this, we must be in total control of our political representation within Nigeria.
Charity must begin at home.

Igbo bu ndi nwere uche na mbu. Igbo ka bukwa ndi nwere uche ma tata!

Chukwu gozie gi.

NIGERIA ONLY HAS BRITAIN.

BIAFRA HAS ISRAEL, TRUMP USA AND GERMANY.

IGBOLAND IS A NO GO AREA FOR NIGERIA FORCES, IF THEY DO SO, THEY WILL BE GUNNED OUT OF THE REGION AND THAT WILL BE THE END.

TAKE MY WORD AS GOOD ASSURANCE, AS THINGS STAND TODAY.

IF YOU NOTICE, NNAMDI KANU DID NOT ADD EDO.


IT WAS EDO PEOPLE THAT ADD THEMSELVES IN BIAFRA AFTER TELLING KANU THAT THEY ARE HEARING EDO IS NOT BIAFRA AND WANT HIM TO CONFIRM IF IT IS TRUE BECOS THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE BIAFRANS AND EVEN THE HEAD.


NNAMDI KANU SAID, EDO IS BIAFRA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G8_l8j4Xqc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMnZFXSPTxk

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NIGERIA ONLY HAS BRITAIN.

BIAFRA HAS ISRAEL, TRUMP USA AND GERMANY.

IGBOLAND IS A NO GO AREA FOR NIGERIA FORCES IF THEY DO SO, THEY WILL BE GUNNED OUT OF THE REGION AND THAT WILL BE THE END.

TAKE MY WORD AS GOOD ASSURANCE, AS THINGS STAND TODAY.

All I see is empty boasts with no strategy to back it up.
Biafra has no one. Nations don't back you up for emotional reasons. They back you up based on mutual interests. You must have something to offer them for their support. What do we have to offer Germany, Israel or Trump/USA today for their support?
We haven't even done our homework. We have fifth columnists as Governors, whose allegiance is to seat of Caliphate in Sokoto and not to the Igbo grassroot town unions. If Germany wants to dialogue with Igbo leaders today, who do you think they would invite? Surprise surprise, our Governors who we have no control over. Go figure!

Just because you decided to submerge yourself in emotionalism and not pragmatism, does not mean the rest of the world are going to change their pragmatic approach to things. You see Ojukwu made same mistake, thinking the civilized world would support Biafra because we were a Christian nation under attack by an Islamic powered Nigeria.
Turned out the west are more interested in their economic interests.
Saudi Arabia is a Muslim countr, yet very good allies of USA. Germany was part of NATO that ransacked Ghaddafi progressive Libya just to plant terrorists in Benghazi who would destroy Libya just to allow France access to Libya crude oil wealth.
These nations are not driven by emotions, they are driven by cold hard interests which are usually economic ones.
So if you think Germany, Israel or USA would support Biafra when you have not done your own homework and have nothing to offer in return other than to go to radio station and be shouting "Umu Chineke" or be running around SE streets with Biafra flags, while economic potentials of Eastern region die daily from bad leadership at state and economic level, then you need a reality check.