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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:20pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:With means ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:22pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Either the Bible lied or freshboi88 lied ... One must he true. The person spoken of here years will never end ... Has Jesus years ever once end ? Has he tasted death ? Be sincere |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:23pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:No where does the Greek word used to mean BECOMING THE SAME Keep lying... You can tell me , What we know is he emptied it before coming to earth , that's why he could become a baby.So you don't know the meaning of EMPTIED HIMSELF or what Happened to the divine nature He emptied. Until you tell us then your understanding of that verse is shallow. But aren't Christian LA going to DIE (which is to emptied their flesh and blood) Flesh and blood cannot inherit Gods kingdom. U lied.Phillipian will be a lie when you don't even know the meaning of emptied Himself... Delusion is real! So I'm waiting for that. You ran to the Greek text isn't it ... I showed you now that greek word meant same .I only use Geek to buttress my initial point which means Heb and 2peter were addressing different point and the Greek solely supports my position. Quote the verses in full and stop hiding under (...) just as your demonic organization has been doing to lie and silent some critical point when referencing people's work. Let's see whether we'll find this your statement "It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING. That same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4" there! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:27pm On May 09, 2020 |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:28pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:They are partakers thts is why they please God. Nature: the basic or inherent features, character, or qualities of something. "helping them to realize the nature of their problems" Is holiness not one of the qualities of God. You c y I said u r an OLODO!!!! Now want to run from Hebrew....nah lie u go no where |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:29pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:Mary gave birth to God ? Since Yeshua came with his Divine nature ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:30pm On May 09, 2020 |
Lol . what a thread . Trinity again. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:31pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:No his years never ended because he says 12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Can the first and last have an end? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:32pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Angels are God accepted ? Your Bible said angels are Holy . I think your definition of nature include essence , basis features . the nature of God is spirit . angels are spirit too . I guess they are equal by nature. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:32pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:No not my rants scripture 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h] Jehovah calls Jesus Lord and says he created the heavens and the earth!!!....OMG!!! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:33pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Answer that question: Did Jesus ever die ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:34pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:I have no business with you man, why this quote ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:38pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Another liar has joined the league! Why can't you go straight to your point instead of rumbling? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:39pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:But you quoted him first! just imagine... |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:41pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Mumu Analysis: I dnt have time for bottomless pit arguement Heb 1: 13 And God never said to any of the angels, “Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble your enemies, making them a footstool under your feet.”[i] 14 Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation. Come with another arguement. This one is dead on arrival |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:42pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Everyone knows Jesus died but only a deluded JWs will think the YEARS of Jesus ended when He died when they believe the same Jesus is still in heaven now. Did Bible say Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 12:42pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:This will be addressed in my last post. So you don't know the meaning of EMPTIED HIMSELF or what Happened to the divine nature He emptied." So now you, Father , glorify me alongside yourself with THE GLORY that I had alongside you before the world was " - John 17:5 Simply means he didn't Come to earth with his Heavenly Glory. I only use Geek to buttress my initial point which means Heb and 2peter were addressing different point and the Greek solely supports my position." You endure the same sufferings that we also suffer. And so our hope for you is unwavering, knowing as we do that, Just as YOU ARE SHARERS ( Same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4) of the sufferings " Are they Equal partners of the same sufferings ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:44pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:But u quoted me nah....I have quashed Ur diversionary arguement with the truth again- Scripture. The word of God. U pple have no hiding place. Scripture will expose u. 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h] Who laid the foundations of heaven and earth ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:46pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h] Who laid the foundations of heaven and earth? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:47pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:This people ehn.... Their Lie too much |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:47pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:He is running away from that....... |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:48pm On May 09, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Is Jesus the first and the last, the same yesterday, today and forever? The answer to this, answers Ur question |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:49pm On May 09, 2020 |
Emusan:The psalm say Never , at no point will the person die. Lame one |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:50pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Revelation 1:18 - I became Dead. Jesus ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:52pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:Trinity will fall , London bridge is falling. For more persons to share the exact same divine nature will mean the Trinity bracket need to be expanded. They are in trouble |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:52pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Is Jesus first and the last....?......mumu answer the question first let scales fall from Ur eyes |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:54pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Trinity will fall when u explain this Mr "And" is a break......religion comot sense from Ur head 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h][/b] |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:56pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:The one At Hebrew 1:10-12 will never die. Jesus died .. Jesus been first and last doesn't change this. He was first and last as per his ressurection from death. Not that he never dies , if Jesus never dies, who pay for your sins ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:56pm On May 09, 2020 |
CANTICLES:Tueh!!!!!! 8 But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. 9 You love justice and hate evil. Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g] 10 He also says to the Son, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth and made the heavens with your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain forever. They will wear out like old clothing. 12 You will fold them up like a cloak and discard them like old clothing. But you are always the same; you will live forever.”[h][/b] My friend I can read so can others He also says to the son. And is a conjunction and not a break. So start explaining |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:56pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07: " So now you, Father , glorify me alongside yourself with THE GLORY that I had alongside you before the world was " - John 17:5You have shifted from nature/form to Glory.... What happened to His divine nature since He didn't come to earth with it? Either the divine nature died as people with flesh and blood died before they could pick up another form or the divine nature was hidden in the human nature. One thing must happen but unfortunate for you, you can't agree that the divine nature died. So for the last time, what does it mean that Jesus emptied Himself? " You endure the same sufferings that we also suffer. And so our hope for you is unwavering, knowing as we do that, Just as YOU ARE SHARERS ( Same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4) of the sufferings "Your lie can't hold water again that's why you couldn't support it with your previous statement. So how does the above correlate with this your statement? "It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING. That same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4" It means you deliberately twisted those verses to support your lies that's why you're hiding under the (...) Everyone can see what those verses are saying! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by CANTICLES: 12:58pm On May 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:Years after the psalm was written , Jesus became dead . |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 1:01pm On May 09, 2020 |
Barristter07:This arguement holds no water. Angels re partakers of God's nature in the sense that they are spirits just like God is a Spirit. But does that makes them equal to God...No! 13 And God never said to any of the angels, “Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble your enemies, making them a footstool under your feet.”[i] 14 Therefore, [b]angels are only servants—spirits [/b]sent to care for people who will inherit salvation. |
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