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CANTICLES:
Years after the psalm was written , Jesus became dead .

Is Jesus first and last?....simple question

I am not here to trade words but to show u the truth. I can only do my part And allow the Holy Spirit do his.

The answer to this question will reveal d lies u r trying to tell

CANTICLES:
The psalm say Never , at no point will the person die. Lame one

So "your YEARS never end" means the person won't die.....

So how come the same Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever? I can see how you stylishly boycotted that.

Also, the same deluded person who believed that Jesus was once Angel Michael but died and rose again and still remains as Angel Michael can be spewing thrash.

Emusan:
You have shifted from nature/form to Glory....

What happened to His divine nature since He didn't come to earth with it?

Either the divine nature died as people with flesh and blood died before they could pick up another form or the divine nature was hidden in the human nature.

One thing must happen but unfortunate for you, you can't agree that the divine nature died.

So for the last time, what does it mean that Jesus emptied Himself?

Is that John 17:5 he gave you not clear enough, His divine nature was part of his heavenly glory he had before the world was which the Father took away .

Divine nature hidden In human nature ? Not emptied ? Empty means to remove completely .

Your lie can't hold water again that's why you couldn't support it with your previous statement.

So how does the above correlate with this your statement? "It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING. That same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4"

It means you deliberately twisted those verses to support your lies that's why you're hiding under the (...)

Everyone can see what those verses are saying!

Paul said they share Same sufferings. The share here is the same as 2Pet 1:4, does that not tell you they share the same nature with God ?

freshboi88:
Is Jesus first and last?....simple question

I am not here to trade words but to show u the truth. I can only do my part And allow the Holy Spirit do his.

The answer to this question will reveal d lies u r trying to tell

Jesus is first and last because he was first from the dead to be raised to eternal life and the last by the Father.


It doesnt mean Jesus never died!!!!

Jesus is not the one in that heb 1:10-12

Emusan:

So "your YEARS never end" means the person won't die.....


So how come the same Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever? I can see how you stylishly boycotted that.

Also, the same deluded person who believed that Jesus was once Angel Michael but died and rose again and still remains as Angel Michael can be spewing thrash.

The psalm was specific , Years never end. It refer to existence as a living being not at any point coming to an end. Jesus once existed as dead being

freshboi88:

This arguement holds no water. Angels re partakers of God's nature in the sense that they are spirits just like God is a Spirit. But does that makes them equal to God...No!



13 And God never said to any of the angels,

“Sit in the place of honor at my right hand
until I humble your enemies,
making them a footstool under your feet.”[i]

14 Therefore, [b]angels are only servants—spirits [/b]sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.

The bold is where we are going . that someone exist or share the same nature with the Father , doesnt make them equals. Jesus is not equal to the Father. The Father is forever greater

CANTICLES:
Is that John 17:5 he gave you not clear enough, His divine nature was part of his heavenly glory he had before the world was which the Father took away.

So you mean the Father killed the Son or what do you mean by ..."which the father took away"

How does the Father take it away?

Divine nature hidden In human nature ? Not emptied ? Empty means to remove completely.

To you!

Paul said they share Same sufferings. The share here is the same as 2Pet 1:4, does that not tell you they share the same nature with God ?

I have explained myself enough on this!

2 Peter and Heb are addressing different point....

CANTICLES:
The psalm was specific , Years never end. It refer to existence as a living being not at any point coming to an end. Jesus once existed as dead being

Does it means HIS YEARS HAS ENDED....

Olodo of the great century.

Then why are you dodging the same scripture that says Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever!

How can someone who once died because to be the same yesterday, today and forever?

CANTICLES:
Jesus is first and last because he was first from the dead to be raised to eternal life and the last by the Father.


It doesnt mean Jesus never died!!!!

Jesus is not the one in that heb 1:10-12

Read Ur bible u will not read..Jesus Christ can never died.

1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…

Put to death in the flesh but what alive in what?


death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.

Emusan:
Does it means HIS YEARS HAS ENDED....

Olodo of the great century.

Then why are you dodging the same scripture that says Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever!

How can someone who once died because to be the same yesterday, today and forever?

I have cured his foolishness with 1 Peter 3: 18-20

Maximus69:
It's not difficult and there is no need for unnecessary arguments, Jesus asked his followers to go out for preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood, so go out there and start preaching and teaching those in your neighbourhood what you know about Jesus.
No wahala!

Is that what you do? Mislead people?
Jesus said you should be witnesses of him. Not rumor mongers.
Meaning whatever you have not experienced you should not be preaching.

He simply pointed out a flaw in the scriptures and instead of you to acknowledge you don't have the explanation , you just went ahead to prove you're simply preaching what you don;t understand.

If you don't have an answer, keep quiet and learn from others who do.

Emusan:
You have shifted from nature/form to Glory....

What happened to His divine nature since He didn't come to earth with it?

Either the divine nature died as people with flesh and blood died before they could pick up another form

One thing must happen but unfortunate for you, you can't agree that the divine nature died.

So for the last time, what does it mean that Jesus emptied Himself?

The Father does that. Your error is you assumed Jesus needed to die before it can be removed , Not at all. The Humans who will get rid of their Fleshly human nature are doing so because corruption cannot inherit incorruption . their human bodies are contaminated by Sin. And the punishment for sin Is death .

Does Jesus Divine nature inherit any sin to demand the punishment of death ??

I dont think you are okay

or the divine nature was hidden in the human nature.

What you hide with you wasn't emptied . FACT . stop the lies

Your lie can't hold water again that's why you couldn't support it with your previous statement.

So how does the above correlate with this your statement? "It was used to explain that the person who shared BECOME SAME with others . EQUAL PARTNERS OF SOMETHING. That same Greek word at 2Pet 1:4"

It means you deliberately twisted those verses to support your lies that's why you're hiding under the (...)

Everyone can see what those verses are saying!

I wanted to show you why the Greek rendering proved sharers of divine nature are equal by divine nature, same way sharers of sufferings with Paul are said to undergo the same suffering.

freshboi88:
I have cured his foolishness with 1 Peter 3: 18-20

You don't know them, their false interpretation for that verse is that Jesus was resurrected to a SPIRIT BEING

CANTICLES:
The bold is where we are going . that someone exist or share the same nature with the Father , doesnt make them equals. Jesus is not equal to the Father. The Father is forever greater

Now that 1 Peter 3 has quashed that mumu Jesus died lie


8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever

@bolded can u now explain y Jehovah the one who u bear witness to says his son laid the foundation of the heavens and earth with the works of his hands?

freshboi88:
Read Ur bible u will not read..Jesus Christ can never died.

1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…

Put to death in the flesh but what alive in what?


death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.

Who died .. Jesus or ordinary body ?

CANTICLES:
Is that John 17:5 he gave you not clear enough, His divine nature was part of his heavenly glory he had before the world was which the Father took away .

Divine nature hidden In human nature ? Not emptied ? Empty means to remove completely .





Paul said they share Same sufferings. The share here is the same as 2Pet 1:4, does that not tell you they share the same nature with God ?

Beautiful

Emusan:
You don't know them, their false interpretation for that verse is that Jesus was resurrected to a SPIRIT BEING

Does it quash their lie that Jesus died

Emusan:
So you mean the Father killed the Son or what do you mean by ..."which the father took away"

How does the Father take it away?

Not by death . Jesus commit no sin neither was the nature contaminated

To you!



I have explained myself enough on this!

2 Peter and Heb are addressing different point....

They are addressing the same point.

Barristter07:
Who died .. Jesus or ordinary body ?

Read the verse again


1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


I don't think English is too hard to understand

freshboi88:
Does it quash their lie that Jesus died

So Jesus didn't die ?

U bloody enemy of Christ !

freshboi88:
Read the verse again


1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


I don't think English is too hard to understand

Who was put to death in the flesh ? Jesus ?

Barristter07:
The Father does that. Your error is you assumed Jesus needed to die before it can be removed , Not at all. The Humans who will get rid of their Fleshly human nature are doing so because corruption cannot inherit incorruption . their human bodies are contaminated by Sin. And the punishment for sin Is death.

Hypocrite! Now saying I'm assuming as if he doesn't assume!
Besides, I never assume but interpreting scripture with scripture.

How does the Father do it?

Either the Father put and end to it or the Father hide it somewhere.

But now what you've been shouting about since on 2peter 1 and that of Heb 2 is what you just did now.

You agreed that to pick up another form the person must drop the FIRST but all of a sudden, you don't want it to have the same meaning when it comes to Christ. Hypocrite!

Tell us what happened to the Divine form Christ emptied, your deluded brother has said to empty is to REMOVE COMPLETELY!

Does Jesus Divine nature inherit any sin to demand the punishment of death ??

Does the human nature tainted with sin?

I dont think you are okay


What you hide with you wasn't emptied . FACT . stop the lies

Your brain is paining you.

So what happened to the divine nature!

I wanted to show you why the Greek rendering proved sharers of divine nature are equal by divine nature, same way sharers of sufferings with Paul are said to undergo the same suffering.

Stop lying and make scripture say what it didn't say!

Nothing correlate in where you quoted with that of your statement.

freshboi88:
Now that 1 Peter 3 has quashed that mumu Jesus died lie

@ Rozz , Do u see where he landed. ? Heretic teaching that Jesus never died for anyone sins? He said Jesus dying was a lie .

False teachings always expose themselves

Barristter07:
Who was put to death in the flesh ? Jesus ?

Biblical illiterate death to the flesh but alive in spirit

So Tht is why Jesus can say

Ian the first and last;!!



1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


Put to death in the flesh but alive in what?

Barristter07:
Not by death . Jesus commit no sin neither was the nature contaminated

So how did the Father took it away?

So was the human nature of Christ contaminated?

They are addressing the same point.

They are not, just agree you twisted scripture to agree with your position.

Emusan:
Hypocrite! Now saying I'm assuming as if he doesn't assume!
Besides, I never assume but interpreting scripture with scripture.

How does the Father do it?

Either the Father put and end to it or the Father hide it somewhere.

But now what you've been shouting about since on 2peter 1 and that of Heb 2 is what you just did now.

You agreed that to pick up another form the person must drop the FIRST but all of a sudden, you don't want it to have the same meaning when it comes to Christ. Hypocrite!

Tell us what happened to the Divine form Christ emptied, your deluded brother has said to empty is to REMOVE COMPLETELY!

Your point that it was hidden in human nature was actually a lie . that was what canticles pointed out. If it was hidden in the human nature, Then it wasn't emptied but hidden

So correct yourself.

[qiote]Does Jesus Divine nature inherit any sin to demand the punishment of death ??

Does the human nature tainted with sin?

I dont think you are okay


What you hide with you wasn't emptied . FACT . stop the lies

Your brain is paining you.

So what happened to the divine nature!

I repeat what u hide within isn't emptied. YOU LIAR !!!

Jesus divine nature doesnt deserve punishment of death.

I wanted to show you why the Greek rendering proved sharers of divine nature are equal by divine nature, same way sharers of sufferings with Paul are said to undergo the same suffering.

Stop lying and make scripture say what it didn't say!

Nothing correlate in where you quoted with that of your statement.

Is the Greek word for " sharers" at 1Corinthians 1:6,7 and 2Pet 1:4 same ?

Emusan:
So how did the Father took it away?

So was the human nature of Christ contaminated?

His human nature was sacrified for SINS. Leading to his death. So he also paid the punishment for sins through His death

They are not, just agree you twisted scripture to agree with your position.

Nope , very clear and direct : Which Nature will they share ? THE DIVINE NATURE/Gods form. If Divine nature is proof of Godship to you, then they are GODS.

Barristter07:
@ Rozz , Do u see where he landed. ? Heretic teaching that Jesus never died for anyone sins? He said Jesus dying was a lie .

False teachings always expose themselves

1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…

Who is the heretic. here. U!


Paul makes us understand that death to the body of Christ wasn't death to his Spirit. His spirit was alive.

death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.

freshboi88:
Biblical illiterate death to the flesh but alive in spirit

So Tht is why Jesus can say

Ian the first and last;!!



1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


Put to death in the flesh but alive in what?

Bros , who died in the flesh ?? Who ??

freshboi88:
1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…

Who is the heretic. here. U!


Paul makes us understand that death to the body of Christ wasn't death to his Spirit. His spirit was alive.

death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.

Only by human body ??

But every human have spirit nah, does that mean everyone has divine nature within ?

Freshboi88 , u need help

Emusan:
So how did the Father took it away?

So was the human nature of Christ contaminated?



They are not, just agree you twisted scripture to agree with your position.

8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever


"He also says to the son". This is what scripture says.........they wan lie

Barristter07:
Your point that it was hidden in human nature was actually a lie . that was what canticles pointed out. If it was hidden in the human nature, Then it wasn't emptied but hidden

So correct yourself.

Using style to dodge my question.

What happened to the divine nature!

Answer that so that we can see whether I'm lie or not

I repeat what u hide within isn't emptied. YOU LIAR !!!

Jesus divine nature doesnt deserve punishment of death.

So what happened to the same divine nature?

You haven't answered my question but you just keep perambulating.

If you can tell us what happened to it then everyone can see the liar here.

Is the Greek word for " sharers" at 1Corinthians 1:6,7 and 2Pet 1:4 same ?

You means the word Greek word SHARER appear in verse 6....that's the problem when you are twisting scripture to suit yourself