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freshboi88:
8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever


"He also says to the son". This is what scripture says.........they wan lie

You see where you are right now denying Jesus never died is so cool. You this anti Christ

Barristter07:
Only by human body ??

But every human have spirit nah, does that mean everyone has divine nature within ?

Freshboi88 , u need help

1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


U r the one that needs help. Death to the body of Christ doesn't mean seizure to his years cos Paul says he was made alive in his Spirit.

If it means an end to his years...why would he lay claim to be the first and last?

Barristter07:
His human nature was sacrified for SINS. Leading to his death. So he also paid the punishment for sins through His death

Does the human nature contaminated with sin?

That was the simple question you're dodging

So what happened to His divine nature?

Nope , very clear and direct : Which Nature will they share ? THE DIVINE NATURE/Gods form. If Divine nature is proof of Godship to you, then they are GODS.

They share not BECOME as Christ did when He became human which brought us back to our initial point.

So both 2peter and Heb 2 aren't addressing the same point.

QED

freshboi88:
1 peter 3 18-20 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19 in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20 because they formerly did not obey…


U r the one that needs help. Death to the body of Christ doesn't mean seizure to his years cos Paul says he was made alive in his Spirit.

If it means an end to his years...why would he lay claim to be the first and last?

Do even wicked humans not have spirits ?? Finally u are saying the divine nature is present in every human

Secondly, So Jesus never died for anyone's Sins just ordinary body dies ?

Barristter07:
Do even wicked humans not have spirits ?? Finally u are saying the divine nature is present in every human

Secondly, So Jesus never died for anyone's Sins just ordinary body dies ?

I used to laugh at you people ignorance whenever that second point is raised.

Who owns the BODY that Died in the first place?

Barristter07:
You see where you are right now denying Jesus never died is so cool. You this anti Christ

Jesus did so first

the Lord affirms: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (22:13; 21:6).

This is a clear declaration of the eternal nature of Christ, hence, his deity

Y did Jesus claim eternal by saying he is the first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega?


See your lies

Emusan:
Does the human nature contaminated with sin?

That was the simple question you're dodging

So what happened to His divine nature?

His human nature was sacrificed for SINS.

Go and ask the Father what he did with it . Because its now clear death is not an option and hiding is not an option.

Thank you

They share not BECOME as Christ did when He became human which brought us back to our initial point.

So both 2peter and Heb 2 aren't addressing the same point.

QED

They have the promise to become ... Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature ) . Sharing the divine nature make them A Possessor of that nature Just as Christ did.

freshboi88:
Jesus did so first

the Lord affirms: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (22:13; 21:6).

This is a clear declaration of the eternal nature of Christ, hence, his deity

Y did Jesus claim eternal by saying he is the first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega?


See your lies

Finally , Jesus never died for anyone ... Accepted ?

Barristter07:
Do even wicked humans not have spirits ?? Finally u are saying the divine nature is present in every human

Secondly, So Jesus never died for anyone's Sins just ordinary body dies ?

the Lord affirms: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (22:13; cf. 21:6). This is a clear declaration of the eternal nature of Christ, hence, his deity

If Jesus death meant seizure of his years why did he claim eternal....ansa

freshboi88:
the Lord affirms: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (22:13; cf. 21:6). This is a clear declaration of the eternal nature of Christ, hence, his deity

If Jesus death meant seizure of his years why did he claim eternal....ansa

Uncle am not arguing na , Jesus is eternal . he never died for anybody's sins. WO! Thank you so much for this knowledge. Jesus is proud of you

freshboi88:
the Lord affirms: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (22:13; cf. 21:6). This is a clear declaration of the eternal nature of Christ, hence, his deity

If Jesus death meant seizure of his years why did he claim eternal....ansa

I can see you have ran from the his spirit Live means divine nature cannot die . since you were reminded even wicked humans have spirits . breeze don blow , fowl yansh don open

Barristter07:
His human nature was sacrificed for SINS.

Was the human nature CONTAMINATED with sin?

Why simple question is so hard for you to answer?

Go and ask the Father what he did with it . Because its now clear death is not an option and hiding is not an option.

Imagine, I should go and ask the Father!

So you don't know what Father did with it but you claim it WAS THE SAME PERSON IN HEAVEN SENT TO EARTH....How come?

Divine nature can't die, you know this!
So what happened to the divine nature the Father took/completely removed in your brother's voice?

You must tell us what happened to that NATURE:

1. God killed it...
2. The Father took it and It's with Him which means the Father was lying to us that He sent it
3. The divine nature was hidden in His human nature!

Thank you

You're not welcome until you tell us what happened to that Divine nature that was removed completely/or took by the Father.

They have the promise to become ... Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature ) . Sharing the divine nature make them A Possessor of that nature Just as Christ did.

Now you have shot yourself in the leg....

For you to equate IMAGE OF GOD to DIVINE NATURE...

Stop using BECOME I've thrash that since....but human are already created in the IMAGE OF GOD

Liar that's not what the verse says and that's why you've been jumping from one verse to another just to prove both Heb and 2peter are addressing the same thing when they're not.

Noone consults any book or reference any verse before understanding what Heb 2 is saying but you must force 2peter to say what it didn't

Barristter07:
@ Rozz , Do u see where he landed. ? Heretic teaching that Jesus never died for anyone sins? He said Jesus dying was a lie .

False teachings always expose themselves

Let me just be following and learning,you guys are good sha.

Emusan:
Was the human nature CONTAMINATED with sin?

God made that nature Sin.

Why simple question is so hard for you to answer?



Imagine, I should go and ask the Father!

So you don't know what Father did with it but you claim it WAS THE SAME PERSON IN HEAVEN SENT TO EARTH....How come?

Same person, different nature.

Divine nature can't die, you know this!
So what happened to the divine nature the Father took/completely removed in your brother's voice?

You must tell us what happened to that NATURE:

1. God killed it...

Death is a punishment for sin. U can wrong that already.

2. The Father took it and It's with Him which means the Father was lying to us that He sent it

That scripture that said the Father send the Divine nature ?

3. The divine nature was hidden in His human nature!

What u hide isn't emptied. To hide is to keep secretly. Not empty

You're not welcome until you tell us what happened to that Divine nature that was removed completely/or took by the Father.

Wait , U said it was hidden and the scripture exposed your lying nature by saying it was EMPTIED

Now you have shot yourself in the leg....

For you to equate IMAGE OF GOD to DIVINE NATURE...

Stop using BECOME I've thrash that since....but human are already created in the IMAGE OF GOD

Liar that's not what the verse says and that's why you've been jumping from one verse to another just to prove both Heb and 2peter are addressing the same thing when they're not.

Noone consults any book or reference any verse before understanding what Heb 2 is saying but you must force 2peter to say what it didn't

You Fraud

" We shall ALSO BEAR " [ .. This isn't reffering to the image of God they already possess. ]

" ALSO BEAR " ...

The verse is referring to Nature , Adams Nature ( from Dust ) , Jesus nature ( Divine )

Emusan:
what Heb 2 is saying but you must force 2peter to say what it didn't

E get as e be I only know u can't tear divine nature away from that verse.
So tell me what 2Pet 1:4 meant by sharers of THE DIVINE NATURE?

Barristter07:
God made that nature Sin.

That happened when the body was on the cross

So was the human body contaminated with sin?

Same person, different nature.

So there was a person LIVING in that Divine Nature and that person was removed then the Divine Nature was kept by the Father in Heaven.

Or you mean both the person and divine nature are the same?

This is how you'll know the evil doctrine of your demonic organization.

Death is a punishment for sin. U can wrong that already.

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE that was COMPLETELY REMOVED.

You said above that SAME PERSON but DIFFERENT NATURE

So you agree that A PERSON was inside the DIVINE NATURE.

This is getting interesting!

That scripture that said the Father send the Divine nature?

So what was the Father sent?

What u hide isn't emptied. To hide is to keep secretly. Not empty

So what happened to that divine nature?

You keep dodging this but you know I won't let you rest until you tell us what happened to that divine nature.

Wait , U said it was hidden and the scripture exposed your lying nature by saying it was EMPTIED

Then why didn't you answer my first question, that what does it mean to emptied?

At least the will show who is lying...

Okay, what's the image of the heavenly one that's different from the image of the one made of dust?

You already said bearing image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE, now I pointed it out that Man was created in the IMAGE OF GOD...

You're now asking stupid question!

If bearing the image of the heavenly one is having divine nature then it means God has already created human with divine nature.

When you supposed to study your Bible you'll be busy reading man made watchtower and awake.

Barristter07:
You Fraud

" We shall ALSO BEAR " [ .. This isn't reffering to the image of God they already possess. ]

" ALSO BEAR " ...

The verse is referring to Nature , Adams Nature ( from Dust ) , Jesus nature ( Divine )

Ehhhh

So but your deluded organization say people will be resurrected on earth....

So which nature they will bear?

I guess you didn't see this coming....

So everybody who resurrected will bear DIVINE NATURE.....Bravo!

I know your tune will change now that Apostle was only talking about those who will be resurrected to heaven.

Barristter07:
E get as e be I only know u can't tear divine nature away from that verse.
So tell me what 2Pet 1:4 meant by sharers of THE DIVINE NATURE?

The image of God Adam lost and Christ came to earth to restore.

That's why you're even confused more when you talk about bearing the image of the heavenly one and that of image of Adam.

Barristter07:
I can see you have ran from the his spirit Live means divine nature cannot die . since you were reminded even wicked humans have spirits . breeze don blow , fowl yansh don open

Keep shut!!

It's a confirmation

If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?

Barristter07:
Uncle am not arguing na , Jesus is eternal . he never died for anybody's sins. WO! Thank you so much for this knowledge. Jesus is proud of you

Jesus dying doesnt take away the fact that he is the beginning and the end

Stop making a mockery of Ur intelligence


If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?

Barristter07:
Finally , Jesus never died for anyone ... Accepted ?

Jesus died and yet is eternal

Isnt God great....This shows that God cannot die


If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?

Barristter07:
Do even wicked humans not have spirits ?? Finally u are saying the divine nature is present in every human

Secondly, So Jesus never died for anyone's Sins just ordinary body dies ?

If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?


If Jehovah if Alpha and Omega and Jesus is Alpha and Omega. If Jesus's death meant a seizure of his years, does it mean that Jehovah died too?

Barristter07:
Uncle am not arguing na , Jesus is eternal . he never died for anybody's sins. WO! Thank you so much for this knowledge. Jesus is proud of you

You don run comot from Hebrew...na lie you no go run oooo


[b]10 He also says to the Son,[b]

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever.”[h]

Why did Jehovah tell his Son that he made the heavens and the earth with the works of his hands

Myer:
Is that what you do? Mislead people?
Jesus said you should be witnesses of him. Not rumor mongers.
Meaning whatever you have not experienced you should not be preaching.

He simply pointed out a flaw in the scriptures and instead of you to acknowledge you don't have the explanation , you just went ahead to prove you're simply preaching what you don;t understand.

If you don't have an answer, keep quiet and learn from others who do.

OK do you now believe that Christianity can be well organized as in having the same line of thought?

Aren't you the same person who has been saying Christianity is complicated and we should accept it that way?

So now you're ready to take sides with some kind of teaching against another in the same Christianity you once said is full of complications!

OK now!

[quote author=Maximus69 post=89363080]OK do you now believe that Christianity can be well organized as in having the same line of thought?

Aren't you the same person who has been saying Christianity is complicated and we should accept it that way?

So now you're ready to take sides with some kind of teaching against another in the same Christianity you once said is full of complications!

OK now! [quote]10 He [Jehovah] also says to the Son,[Jesus]

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever.”

What do I have to say about this?....Ur brainwashed colleagues say it wasn't about Jesus.

The son is not Jesus again abi?!!!!...

@Janosky @Barristter07 @Rozz @Jozzy4


10 He [Jehovah] also says to the Son,[Jesus]

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever.”

Don't run away come and ansa y Jehovah is saying this to Jesus

@Janosky @Barristter07 @Rozz @Jozzy4

After that answer 1 fundamental question. Who is Jesus to u?

[quote author=freshboi88 post=89364532][/quote]Never mind my guy you've won the game, so it's time to go and gather all those having this same line of thought together for the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned his TRUE followers to do.

Jesus will be happy as you've beaten all those LIARS hands down, in fact he owe you one big bottle of Hennessy, but i don't think that's all he's expecting from his own TRUE followers Sir! Matthew 10:11-15; 28:19-20

Maximus69:
Never mind my guy you've won the game, so it's time to go and gather all those having this same line of thought together for the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned his TRUE followers to do.

Jesus will be happy as you've beaten all those LIARS hands down, in fact he owe you one big bottle of Hennessy, but i don't think that's all he's expecting from his own TRUE followers Sir! Matthew 10:11-15; 28:19-20

Give Ur life to Christ. I aim is to point u to the truth and let the Holy Spirit do the rest in your life.

Take heart sha!!!..... It's not easy knowing u have been deceived all these yrs by the watch tower. I feel Ur pain neighbor.....

Ask urself who is Jesus to me?...is he My Lord and personal savior.?....if he is?...then acknowledge him as Your God. For he is Our God and saviour. Titus 2:13

When u do, u'll see scales falling off your eyes n an illumination of your mind.

As u grow in Christ, u can send me a msg for spiritual Guidance. I'll be glad to help

freshboi88:
Give Ur life to Christ. I aim is to point u to the truth and let the Holy Spirit do the rest in your life.

Take heart sha!!!..... It's not easy knowing u have been deceived all these yrs by the watch tower. I feel Ur pain neighbor.....

Ask urself who is Jesus to me?...is he My Lord and personal savior.?....if he is?...then acknowledge him as Your God. For he is Our God and saviour. Titus 2:13

When u do, u'll see scales falling off your eyes n an illumination of your mind.

As u grow in Christ, u can send me a msg for spiritual Guidance. I'll be glad to help

I'm 100% OK with my own Jehovah!

But it's a free world, so you can go do your "let's go a fishing" business, more grease to your elbow Sir!

Maximus69:
I'm 100% OK with my own Jehovah!

But it's a free world, so you can go do your "let's go a fishing" business, more grease to your elbow Sir!

The only way to Jehovah is through Jesus bro. Stop deceiving urself. Believing in Jesus is Believing in Jehovah

Not believing in Jesus is not believing in Jehovah.

Wise up o

freshboi88:
The only way to Jehovah is through Jesus bro. Stop deceiving urself. Believing in Jesus is Believing in Jehovah

Not believing in Jesus is not believing in Jehovah.

Wise up o

Thanks Sir!

As i've told you,

I am 100% OK with JEHOVAH!

More grease to your elbow Sir!