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Maximus69:
Thanks Sir!

As i've told you,

I am 100% OK with JEHOVAH!

More grease to your elbow Sir!

Who is Jesus to u?

freshboi88:
Who is Jesus to u?

Matthew 16:16

Rozz:
This my JW people can argue ehn,no wonder why most pastors will tell you to avoid them but I give it to them as they are most times somehow right

Dearie, To point out what the Bible actually says means defending the Bible's TRUTH..
It is NOT argument....
People get frightened because what we show them from their own Bible is too unpalatable to their ears.. The excess JUNK of pastorpreneurs done pollute their hearts and mental power to reason.

freshboi88:
8 But to the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever.
You rule with a scepter of justice.
9 You love justice and hate evil.
Therefore, O God, your God has anointed you,
pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”[g]

10 He also says to the Son,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain forever.
They will wear out like old clothing.
12 You will fold them up like a cloak
and discard them like old clothing.
But you are always the same;
you will live forever


"He also says to the son". This is what scripture says.........they wan lie

Later,i will address Hebrew 1:9-12., It doesn't even support Freshboi fictitious claims.


Freshboi Hebrews 1:8 is a FRAUD.
Revelations 3:21, Jesus confirmed Hebrews 1:8 is FRAUDULENT .

Hebrews1:8 is a direct quote of Psalm 45:6.
The Hebrew language Masoretic Text CONFIRM that Freshboi is using a FRAUD to defend a FRAUD he calls Trinity.
The Catholics carry Trinity for head like Gala .
The Catholic Church produced Jerusalem Bible ,in Psalms 45:6 also confirms Freshboi is a LIAR. .
Masoretic Text is probably the oldest copy of the old Testament...
See the screenshot PROOF below..

Maximus69:
Matthew 16:16

Jesus Christ says God gave Peter that Revelation. Matt 16:16-17.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ says God gave Peter that Revelation. Matt 16:16-17.

He asked me nah and i responded! Matthew 7:7

Let him say Jesus was confused in saying God's holy spirit revealed the answer to Peter!

Janosky:
[s]Later,i will address Hebrew 1:9-12., It doesn't even support Freshboi fictitious claims.


Freshboi Hebrews 1:8 is a FRAUD.
Revelations 3:21, Jesus confirmed Hebrews 1:8 is FRAUDULENT .

Hebrews1:8 is a direct quote of Psalm 45:6.
The Hebrew language Masoretic Text CONFIRM that Freshboi is using a FRAUD to defend a FRAUD he calls Trinity.
The Catholics carry Trinity for head like Gala .
The Catholic Church produced Jerusalem Bible ,in Psalms 45:6 also confirms Freshboi is a LIAR. .
Masoretic Text is probably the oldest copy of the old Testament...
See the screenshot PROOF below..[/s]

Lair and to the son he says:. Who says and who is the son?

Maximus69:
He asked me nah and i responded! Matthew 7:7

Let him say Jesus was confused in saying God's holy spirit revealed the answer to Peter!

But u guys said Jesus is angel Micheal nah y r u quoting Mathew or did Peter say u r angel Micheal

Janosky:
Jesus Christ says God gave Peter that Revelation. Matt 16:16-17.

Seems u have forgotten Ur Angel Micheal Gibberish

freshboi88:
But u guys said Jesus is angel Micheal nah y r u quoting Mathew or did Peter say u r angel Micheal

Michael is the Archangel, all angels are God's spirit sons, Jesus (Michael) lived in the flesh and asked his contemporaries what they thought about him as a human in their midst!

Peter's response was perfect!

Michael became a human but his identify as God's son can't be hidden even while he has put on the form of man, because he reflects his father's qualities all through!

Janosky:
Dearie, To point out what the Bible actually says means defending the Bible's TRUTH..
It is NOT argument....
People get frightened because what we show them from their own Bible is too unpalatable to their ears.. The excess JUNK of pastorpreneurs done pollute their hearts and mental power to reason.

lol but there are some of JW practices that I can hardly agree with.

Emusan:
The image of God Adam lost and Christ came to earth to restore.

That's why you're even confused more when you talk about bearing the image of the heavenly one and that of image of Adam.

U FRAUD !

Adam never lost the image of God. He was Created as one. Every human is an image of God.

James 3:9
" With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God. "

That's why they are different from animals. Christian or not , all are in Gods image ... U this fraud

That scripture refer to Nature. 1 Corinthians 15:49 refer to the Divine nature which they shall bear

Maximus69:
Michael is the Archangel, all angels are God's spirit sons, Jesus (Michael) lived in the flesh and asked his contemporaries what they thought about him as a human in their midst!

Peter's response was perfect!

Michael became a human but his identify as God's son can't be hidden even while he has put on the form of man, because he reflects his father's qualities all through!

13 And God never said to any of the angels,

“Sit in the place of honor at my right hand
until I humble your enemies,
making them a footstool under your feet.”[i]

Dude clear Ur ignorance.....

In light of this is Micheal still Jesus

Emusan:
Ehhhh

So but your deluded organization say people will be resurrected on earth....

So which nature they will bear?

I guess you didn't see this coming....

So everybody who resurrected will bear DIVINE NATURE.....Bravo!

I know your tune will change now that Apostle was only talking about those who will be resurrected to heaven.

Your tonic is below . at least you are admitting humans will Bear the DIvine Nature.

" What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit." John 3:6

Anyone not born of the spirit are still Humans by nature even when they are ressurected. ( Rev 21:4)

freshboi88:
13 And God never said to any of the angels,

“Sit in the place of honor at my right hand
until I humble your enemies,
making them a footstool under your feet.”[i]

Dude clear Ur ignorance.....

In light of this is Micheal still Jesus

God never said this to an angel simply means the one God is referring to earned it!
Michael earned it by volunteering to come and serve as the son of man to be humiliated for the sin he never committed and die in the hands of the same creatures he wanted to redeem with his own blood!

So no other angel merits sitting at God's right hand except the one and only Michael who suffered to earn that glory!

freshboi88:
If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?


If Jehovah if Alpha and Omega and Jesus is Alpha and Omega. If Jesus's death meant a seizure of his years, does it mean that Jehovah died too?

What is eternal cannot ever die. You need to go sit down and study in what sense Jesus used that statement.

Twist it as you want . that Heb 1:10 was not reffering to someone who tasted death.

freshboi88:
Jesus died and yet is eternal

Isnt God great....This shows that God cannot die


If Jesus says he is the beginning and the end....his claims eternal

It either his claim to be eternal is a lie or u r a lair!!

Which is true?

Death means he came to an end at a time . that Hebrews said the persons years will never end. Jesus is not the one been reffered

Maximus69:
God never said this to an angel simply means the one God is referring to earned it!
Michael earned it by volunteering to come and serve as the son of man to be humiliated for the sin he never committed and die in the hands of the same creatures he wanted to redeem with his own blood!

So no other angel merits sitting at God's right hand except the one and only Michael who suffered to earn that glory!

I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?

Maximus69:
God never said this to an angel simply means the one God is referring to earned it!
Michael earned it by volunteering to come and serve as the son of man to be humiliated for the sin he never committed and die in the hands of the same creatures he wanted to redeem with his own blood!

So no other angel merits sitting at God's right hand except the one and only Michael who suffered to earn that glory!

I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?same thing the person you quoted is trying to say

Emusan:
That happened when the body was on the cross

So was the human body contaminated with sin?

2 Corinthians 5:21 " He made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us "

God himself made him Sin , so that human nature is contaminated by virtue of been sacrificed for Sin. It deserves death.

So there was a person LIVING in that Divine Nature and that person was removed then the Divine Nature was kept by the Father in Heaven.

Or you mean both the person and divine nature are the same?

This is how you'll know the evil doctrine of your demonic organization.
So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE that was COMPLETELY REMOVED.

You said above that SAME PERSON but DIFFERENT NATURE

So you agree that A PERSON was inside the DIVINE NATURE.

This is getting interesting!
So what was the Father sent?

So what happened to that divine nature?

You keep dodging this but you know I won't let you rest until you tell us what happened to that divine nature.

Then why didn't you answer my first question, that what does it mean to emptied?
At least the will show who is lying...

Phil 2:6,7

From: GODS FORM
To.
SLAVES FORM

The person changed FORM/NATURE .

Not that it was hidden within. Which would make the scripture a LIE . what u hide wasn't emptied, U fraud! .. How could he be lower than angels if he has the divine nature hidden within him ? That would be a LIE.

You already said bearing image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE, now I pointed it out that Man was created in the IMAGE OF GOD...

You're now asking stupid question!

If bearing the image of the heavenly one is having divine nature then it means God has already created human with divine nature.

When you supposed to study your Bible you'll be busy reading man made watchtower and awake.

1 Corinthians 15:49

" And as we have borne the image of the earthly, we SHALL ALSO bear the image of the heavenly. "

Does " We shall also " sound like something they already have ? Clearly expose your fraud this refer to been created In the image of God.

Rozz:
I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?

There are sacred secrets that we don't declare to the public but whoever knew of it and began questioning us over it, we will prove it from the scriptures!

If you truly want to learn, go and found JWs in your neighbourhood.

Without Jehovah's Witnesses nobody will enter God's Kingdom. I'm telling you that right now!

Maximus69:
There are sacred secrets that we don't declare to the public but whoever knew of it and began questioning us over it, we will prove it from the scriptures!

If you truly want to learn, go and found JWs in your neighbourhood.

Without Jehovah's Witnesses nobody will enter God's Kingdom. I'm telling you that right now!

JW people are not friendly at all, they hardly want to have conversations if you ain't one of them.I knew one few years back and anytime he sees me,he will cover his face or look the other way,i didn't know if he was shy or he's already thinking I'm a bad person lol

Barristter07:
Death means he came to an end at a time . that Hebrews said the persons years will never end. Jesus is not the one been reffered

Does Jehovah have another only begotten son....if it's not Jesus Maybe it's Angel Micheal abi

Rozz:
I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?same thing the person you quoted is trying to say

That's what they teach o!

Even when they clearly see the scripture saying that which of the angels did God call his only begotten son...

They will still go ahead twisting scripture

Barristter07:
Death means he came to an end at a time . that Hebrews said the persons years will never end. Jesus is not the one been reffered

So tell us in what sense did Jesus say he is the beginning and the end...

So tell us in what sense did Jesus claim eternal

Rozz:
JW people are not friendly at all, they hardly want to have conversations if you ain't one of them.I knew one few years back and anytime he sees me,he will cover his face or look the other way,i didn't know if he was shy or he's already thinking I'm a bad person lol

You simply formed an assumption without getting to know him better....
JWs generally are easygoing and friendly if you take your time and effort to know us as individuals..
Every one is unique in their own way and mannerisms..

freshboi88:
That's what they teach o!

Even when they clearly see the scripture saying that which of the angels did God call his only begotten son...

They will still go ahead twisting scripture

lol I really do not understand much concerning this

Rozz:
I am somehow confused sir,are you trying to also say angel Michael is Jesus ?same thing the person you quoted is trying to say

Malachi 3:1

"Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts."

Jesus Christ is "the angel of the covenant" spoken of in Malachi 3:1 (Compare John 7:16).


1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”

Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

Army Leader. The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22).


Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven​—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—​it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role. *

Janosky:
You simply formed an assumption without getting to know him better....
JWs generally are easygoing and friendly if you take your time and effort to know us as individuals..
Every one is unique in their own way and mannerisms..

maybe it's his own personal attitude but most JW hardly mingle with people other than their own.

Rozz:
lol I really do not understand much concerning this

The only thing to understand is that these people are lairs..........there is hate in their hearts.

They don't mingle with people who are not JWs. They cannot marry outside JW. If they try it, they are termed apostate.

They will separate families by telling some members that the others r unbelievers even doh they are Christians too o.


Inshort when u see them flee....e

Rozz:
maybe it's his own personal attitude but most JW hardly mingle with people other than their own.

Gbam!!!!.....they can't even pray with u!!!!!!

Nah crime to pray again

Janosky:
Malachi 3:1

"Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts."

Trash!!!!

Hebrew 1
3 The Son radiates God’s own glory and expresses the very character of God, and he sustains everything by the mighty power of his command. When he had cleansed us from our sins, he sat down in the place of honor at the right hand of the majestic God in heaven. 4 This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names.

Bros suffery lie nah