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Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly . it state it clearly that image of the heavenly one belongs to those who will be in heaven.

This is different from image of God available to earthly humans. But the nature of the heavenly one , Jesus Christ

This is an ALLEGORY . clear enough.

John 3:6 added one additional point , what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT !!!

When means such ones will become powerful spirit beings , This does not apply to all Christians . Many will live forever as humans ( Rev 21:3)

If so, it exposes you more : 1Corinrlthians 15:47-49 state clearly that the image of the heavenly one belongs to those who are heavenly , are those humans living forever on earth Not in the image of God ? Clearly there is a difference.

Barristter07:
you agree with the highlighted ?

It never means DIVINE NATURE . Nature wasn't there . You can bury your head in shame already. Liar

Verse 10 says the same dwell in Christians . does that mean they are a part of trinity and are not born with sin ?

Substance meaning
the real physical matter of which a person or thing consists and which has a tangible, solid presence.

He no longer was consisting of the divine nature , but changed to an human nature making him a baby whose life started in the womb.

Image of the heavenly one is not meant for humans .. To show you its different . did you read " Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly " in your Bible ?

Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one , SO ARE THOSE WHO ARE HEAVENLY ?? Do you read this ?

It refers to the Divine nature Jesus possess which this persons will have

POWERFUL REBUTTAL: Many will live forever on earth , yet are in the image of God . does that not tell you there is a difference ?

Emusan:
This is my point:
*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE

*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature

*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE

at least people can boldly see your two sided mouth.

I even added JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD but you blocked your dull brain as if you never see such from my lost.

The allegory is to bring out the fact that the CHILDREN OF THE BONDWOMAN ARE BORN AFTER FLESH while the CHILDREN of the free WOMAN ARE BORN AFTER SPIRIT which is for ALL CHRISTIANS...

Which is the point Jesus made in John 3:6 for you to be a Christian you must be born again which is by WATER AND SPIRIT.



Born of flesh is for the BONDWOMAN


Are you one of the BONDWOMAN children.


Apostle Paul made it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WHO ARE BORN AFTER THE SPIRIT.

Man was created in IMAGE OF GOD FOR, this means MAN HAS DIVINE NATURE

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Emusan:
Like the earthly one means human nature
Like the heavenly one means divine nature
But of a sudden, having the image of God which is also and heavenly one must mean different thing.

Your delusion never do!

JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD....
So how does live on earth WITHOUT DIVINE NATURE?

Then man being created in the Image of God should mean they already have DIVINE NATURE.

Emusan:
I didn't see any highlight but I sense you want to use that to boycott my questions but I won't allow that, here are my questions again:

You're still dodging my question.
At what point he was made to be sin:
1. Through His lifetimes till the moment He was about to be crucified?
2. As He was hung on the Cross

When you supposed to bury your dump skull in deep shit of shame you're still here making mouth.

Even your deluded brother posted a picture of the meaning of Theiotes which is Divine NATURE and even tag you but you're still here disgracing yourself

The problem you're having is inability to deliver yourself from the robotic nature watchtower has put you into.

My point in quoting Colossians is to prove to you that SOMETHING ACTUALLY DWELLS IN THAT HUMAN BODY OF CREATED

Not the lies you've been peddling here from
*Emptied to dropped to pick up bla bla



I don't know where you left your dull brain before making this statement.

So DIVINE NATURE TO YOU is what being describing here. Olodo....even from your own definition you can still be confused!

Once again, what happened to that DIVINE NATURE Jesus dropped before picking up the human nature?

Colossians 2 :9 proves beyond reasonable doubt that THE GODHEAD was DWELL IN BODILY

But you said no, nothing dwell in the BODY



So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE

Can DIVINE NATURE DIE?

These are the questions you keep perambulating about without given a straight answer because you know it'll expose you the more.

BUT MAN was created in the Image of God

and Jesus is THE VERY image of God and you're still saying DIVINE NATURE was not in Jesus on earth.

Olodo osi

Janosky:
Freshboi know NOTHING.....

1 Peter 1:21 and Hebrew 1:4 you don't understand it , do you?

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1 Peter 1:21
Through Christ you have come to trust in God. And you have placed your faith and hope in God because he raised Christ from the dead and gave him great glory"

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Hebrews 1:3-4
" ....After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.


I challenge Freshboi to name any other son of God who received the glory stated in Hebrews 1:3-4..

This is the understanding of the Scriptures that JWs have, no pastorpreneur,gods of men can do so.
Olebwoy dey feed una with JUNK

ToyBoyAaron:
Conflict is usually a sign that the focus has shifted to less important issues, things the Bible calls "disputable matters." When we focus on personalities, preferences, interpretations, styles, or methods, division always happens. But if we concentrate on loving each other and fulfilling God's purposes, harmony results. Paul pleaded for this: "Let there be real harmony so there won't be divisions in the church. I plead with you to be of one mind, united in thought and purpose."
the purpose driven life

freshboi88:
Bible he no Sabi!!!!


New International Version
"I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.

Come back when u can reconcile @ bolded Mr know bible. If u can't u r a bibilical illiterate.


*freshboi88: 3:14pm On May 10

he gave his glory to Jesus.
John 17:5
Glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

Barristter07:
God made him sin , treated him at the point of his death as if he was a sinner deserving of death

I repeat Nature didn't appear in that verse . While its true many translated it as Divine nature or Godhead . Divine qualities explain it better. Having Godly qualities to the full , such as the Chrisfians were said to have the fullness of God. This doesn't mean they are God or divine but it exhibiting his qualities.

what is dwelling in You is not emptied!!!

Beside, How could he be lower than angels when Gods nature still dwell in that same body ?


I think you need a rethink

Image of the heavenly one is for those who are heavenly . Anyone person on earth is in the image of God.

Barristter07:
That assumption was strictly made by you.

A very dull one I must say

1 Corinthuanst 15:48 - " As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.
"

Heavenly divine nature belong to those who are of heaven.

You can live forever on earth and have the image of God. But not the divine nature of the heavenly one.

"As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.

Everyone on earth are not in the likeness of the heavenly nature. FACT

Read those scriptures above. Your ignorance is Legendary . Man on earth doesnt have the heavenly divine nature.

Emusan:
So you agree that it was at the POINT of His death that He was made to be sin for us.

So was the human nature tainted with sin?

Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sans to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...



No to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of THEIOTES

Failure to do this means end of discussion.


He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY

Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.

And to have image of God means you have divine nature since to have the image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

Emusan:
And to have image of God is to have divine nature since having image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.



You know what really funny about you is how you speak from two sides of your mouth and still want everyone to agree with you.

You described image of God as having God's quality or attributes but want can't do the same for having the image of the heavenly one.

But the truth is man have image of God which you can't deny and Christ Himself is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.



Stop giving another person your title
Everyone knows Jws are the most ignorant and deluded persons.

Man has the IMAGE of the dust which makes him to have human nature but the same man has IMAGE OF GOD but can't have DIVINE NATURE.


Continue with your delusion

Emusan:
So you agree that it was at the POINT of His death that He was made to be sin for us.

So was the human nature tainted with sin?



Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sans to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...



No to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of THEIOTES

Failure to do this means end of discussion.

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY

Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.



And to have image of God means you have divine nature since to have the image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

Emusan:
And to have image of God is to have divine nature since having image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.



You know what really funny about you is how you speak from two sides of your mouth and still want everyone to agree with you.

You described image of God as having God's quality or attributes but want can't do the same for having the image of the heavenly one.

But the truth is man have image of God which you can't deny and Christ Himself is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.



Stop giving another person your title
Everyone knows Jws are the most ignorant and deluded persons.

Man has the IMAGE of the dust which makes him to have human nature but the same man has IMAGE OF GOD but can't have DIVINE NATURE.


Continue with your delusion

Barristter07:
Yes.
Yes

Yes .

Because the heavenly nature of Jesus is for those who are heavenly


Open your eyes
" So are those who are HEAVENLY " does that ring a bell ?

Are the humans on earth enjoying everlasting life at Revelation 21:3 of the bond woman ?

You no just grab anything

What is born of spirit is SPIRIT . not human

That point destroy your postulation

Now will these ones living forever on earth not be in Gods image?

Clearly different from image of the heavenly one which belong to those who are heavenly.

DIVINE nature is for those who are heavenly , Those on earth exist in human nature

Emusan

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Emusan:
The last can't be yes if the two above can be yes!

The same measure must be applied to them all.



Was man not CREATED with the IMAGE OF GOD?

Does it ring a bell to your deaf ears?

Is Christ not the VERY IMAGE OF GOD?



It's from the scripture not my postulation.

The CHILDREN OF BONDWOMAN are the one BORN OF THE FLESH

Why ALL CHRISTIANS are the children of the FREEWOMAN born of the SPIRIT, so since you and your brothers are all going to be born of the FLESH then you people belong to the BONDWOMAN CHILDREN which is true anyways because Devil is the father of all liar.



So if the one living on earth forever will be in Image of God then their Nature must supersede that of Christ since Jesus is lesser than God according to you.

This is the equation:
*Image of the heavenly one (Jesus) = Jesus divine nature.
*Image of God = God Divine nature



But man was created with IMAGE OF GOD..

Are you not the one who equate BEARING IMAGE OF SOMETHING TO MEAN HAVING THE NATURE OF THAT THING?

This is it let me remind!
*Bearing the earthly/DUST IMAGE makes man having human nature
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes them having THE NATURE of the heavenly one.
*Now since man is CREATED IN THE IMAGE of God then man must have THE VERY NATURE of God.

CANTICLES:

As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven. - 1Cor 15:48

If you are correct this means created in the image of God and not nature, why is it restricted to those in heaven ??

Emusan:
Mr jumper hide and seek man

Go back to your first post and answer me

When the Father picked up Jesus Divine Nature, what did he do with it?

CANTICLES:
Emusan have no single sense , Image of God = God divine nature . So wicked men also have God divine nature since they are in the image of God ? Who will help this child ?

Emusan:
I can see your ignorance keep alarming.

Since your deluded brother was equating every HAVING THE IMAGE OF SOMETHING to mean NATURE OF THAT THING.

Then since man was created with the Image of God, man should have the Nature of God also.

Get point of the discussion and stop being kangaroo

Emusan:
The last can't be yes if the two above can be yes!

The same measure must be applied to them all.

Was man not CREATED with the IMAGE OF GOD?

Does it ring a bell to your deaf ears?

Is Christ not the VERY IMAGE OF GOD?

It's from the scripture not my postulation.

The CHILDREN OF BONDWOMAN are the one BORN OF THE FLESH

Why ALL CHRISTIANS are the children of the FREEWOMAN born of the SPIRIT, so since you and your brothers are all going to be born of the FLESH then you people belong to the BONDWOMAN CHILDREN which is true anyways because Devil is the father of all liar.

So if the one living on earth forever will be in Image of God then their Nature must supersede that of Christ since Jesus is lesser than God according to you.

This is the equation:
*Image of the heavenly one (Jesus) = Jesus divine nature.
*Image of God = God Divine nature



But man was created with IMAGE OF GOD..

Are you not the one who equate BEARING IMAGE OF SOMETHING TO MEAN HAVING THE NATURE OF THAT THING?

This is it let me remind!
*Bearing the earthly/DUST IMAGE makes man having human nature
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes them having THE NATURE of the heavenly one.
*Now since man is CREATED IN THE IMAGE of God then man must have THE VERY NATURE of God.

Emusan:
The last can't be yes if the two above can be yes!

The same measure must be applied to them all.

Was man not CREATED with the IMAGE OF GOD?

Does it ring a bell to your deaf ears?

Is Christ not the VERY IMAGE OF GOD?

It's from the scripture not my postulation.

The CHILDREN OF BONDWOMAN are the one BORN OF THE FLESH

Why ALL CHRISTIANS are the children of the FREEWOMAN born of the SPIRIT, so since you and your brothers are all going to be born of the FLESH then you people belong to the BONDWOMAN CHILDREN which is true anyways because Devil is the father of all liar.

So if the one living on earth forever will be in Image of God then their Nature must supersede that of Christ since Jesus is lesser than God according to you.

This is the equation:
*Image of the heavenly one (Jesus) = Jesus divine nature.
*Image of God = God Divine nature



But man was created with IMAGE OF GOD..

Are you not the one who equate BEARING IMAGE OF SOMETHING TO MEAN HAVING THE NATURE OF THAT THING?

This is it let me remind!
*Bearing the earthly/DUST IMAGE makes man having human nature
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes them having THE NATURE of the heavenly one.
*Now since man is CREATED IN THE IMAGE of God then man must have THE VERY NATURE of God.

Emusan:
I can see your ignorance keep alarming.

Since your deluded brother was equating every HAVING THE IMAGE OF SOMETHING to mean NATURE OF THAT THING.

Then since man was created with the Image of God, man should have the Nature of God also.

Get point of the discussion and stop being kangaroo

CANTICLES:
Emusan make history .. Jesus become lower because he added another nature

Is Jesus still adding another nature now ?

Emusan: yes , he is still adding another nature

So which means he still continue to be lower than angels ?

Emusan : silence

Barristter07:
One is Restricted to Heavenly ones , remember ?

So not the same.

This particular image is restricted to HEAVENLY ONES , So I think you should listen to the bell more

You need to be careful because it seems that Devil is using you to contradict scripture. What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT !!!

But we see humans living forever on earth ,
WHICH MEANS THEY ARE NOT OF THE BOND SERVANT to have gotten everlasting life .... Expose you perfectly. This means they are not born of the spirit . yet are in the image of God. But not spirits they can't go to heaven, which is for whom the image of The heavenly one or his nature is Restricted

That verse didn't say image of God. Because it knows everyone good or bad have that.

Like the earthly one , so are those who are earthly. Meaning they are not divine beings. So get your facts right.

Barristter07:
It was treated as one.

Liar .. What dwells in you is not emptied, And you can't have it in you and still be lower than angels.

So going by your logic he was still lower than angels since he still have two natures ?

The image of the divine one us for those who are heavenly !!! Refers to nature not your erroneous interpretation.

Like the heavenly one, so are those of heaven. Isn't that clear enough that this is not reffering to been made in the image of God ?

I know u are just grabbing straws

Emusan:
At what point?

Address this my point because that's how you normally dodge post in other to render it meaningless.

This was my last post you stylishly boycotted.

[b]"Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better" just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sand to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...

Now to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of "THEIOTES"

Failure to do this means end of discussion.

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY
Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.[/b][/color]

Failure to address this will bring end to this discussion.