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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 9:41pm On May 11, 2020
YorubaHero12:
First of all, you guys need to know exactly why most Igbos are hellbent on annexing the South-South (ND) ethnicities into their Biafra. It is a game plan that have always been in the mind of the Igbo decision makers since inception and they don't necessarily draft the SS people into Biafra based on true brotherhood.

To give you a better account. In May 12th 1953, Azikwe gave a speech when the Northern people were murmuring secession and was bragging with the resources of the Eastern people as his bargaining power.

Below are some excerpts from it that showed why exactly most Igbos are trying so hard to annex SS:
—In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

—It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the East and West uneconomic for the North.

—You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

https://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/1953-nnamdi-azikiwe-speech-secession/


Brethen, the above is the major reason why they wanted to annex the South South ethnicities into their fold. All the bargaining power Azikwe used were resources of the SS'ner minorities. However there is one more thing that later came up to make them want these ethnicities more, that is Crude Oil.

Ask yourself, if the seas and crude oil were to be in the Igbo lands of SE, will they ever try this hard to bring the SS'ners into their folds? Will they try hard to even add them to their maps? Will they show the same brotherhood they are showing? SS have oil and seas, but yet some Igbos always feel superior to them, let alone changing the situation to SE having the oil and seas. Just imagine.

I know you will ask what is the Yoruba cup of tea in all this, but this country and forum is intertwined, what affects one affects everybody.

Peace.



Now, I get you.
When a Yoruba man takes it upon himself to open and push a thread about the SE disrespecting the SS, it makes rational people begin to wonder about the altruism, the love, and affection involved in all this.

Your analysis of Zik's speech is devoid of basic understanding at best.
Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 10:07pm On May 11, 2020
eagleu:



Now, I get you.
When a Yoruba man takes it upon himself to open and push a thread about the SE disrespecting the SS, it makes rational people begin to wonder about the altruism, the love, and affection involved in all this.

Your analysis of Zik's speech is devoid of basic understanding at best.

Well, this thread is not opened by a Yoruba man and I think we Yorubas on here showed a lot of restraint to be drawn into the argument even when the Hammer guy kept calling us.

What I’ve written is a truth that is available in the public domain and I just brought it here to sharpen the memory of intellectuals. The Southern minorities can think by themselves and they will judge accordingly.

Lastly, there are countless Zik’s speeches that showed the hypocrisy and the magnitude of his greed. Let me not derail this thread by documenting it here. That will be left for another day.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:39pm On May 11, 2020
Niger-Delta Republic can happen because

1) There won't be an overwhelming majority ethnic group. Ijaw, Urhobos, Ibiobio are roughly equal in size.

2) There is no great disparities in their cultures, religions and worldviews.

Efik, Ibiobio and Annang are actually different subsets of the same ethnic group.
Ekpeyes, Ikwerres, Etched etc are igboid groups who share so many similarities.

Even Ijaw, Urhobos, Isoko and to some extent Itsekiri have so many things in common.




pazienza:


Well I know that Ibibio, Ijaw and Urhobo favour Niger delta republic because you hope to start playing majority politics in the new country against the smaller ethnic groups, like Ijaw did in old Rivers state, Urhobo in current Delta and Ibibio in Akwa Ibom.

But you must know that Niger Delta republic will not happen. After escaping this failed Nigeria,no ethnic nationality would ever tolerate to be under another.
Groups like Oro, Ogoni are already far advanced in their quest for independent country free from Ibibio and Ijaws, and would be supported by Ndiigbo to gain such, if we have a strategic leadership by then sha, not the current disorganized one championing for Biafra.

I am 100 percent that there will be no Niger Delta republic,At least not one consisting of all current 6 SS states intact. Niger Delta republic will likely in the end be just Ijaw republic, which was exactly what Boro defunct Niger Delta republic was all about.
At least 20 independent countries would emanate from the current Niger Delta region.
IPOB should stop wasting our time and forge synergy with all those groups as independent countries and not part of Biafra, so that we can all push together in our direction and free ourselves from Lagos/Abuja gang up that had affected all of us in the region.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 11:05pm On May 11, 2020
YorubaHero12:
First of all, you guys need to know exactly why most Igbos are hellbent on annexing the South-South (ND) ethnicities into their Biafra. It is a game plan that have always been in the mind of the Igbo decision makers since inception and they don't necessarily draft the SS people into Biafra based on true brotherhood.

To give you a better account. In May 12th 1953, Azikwe gave a speech when the Northern people were murmuring secession and was bragging with the resources of the Eastern people as his bargaining power.

Below are some excerpts from it that showed why exactly most Igbos are trying so hard to annex SS:
—In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

—It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the East and West uneconomic for the North.

—You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

https://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/1953-nnamdi-azikiwe-speech-secession/


Brethen, the above is the major reason why they wanted to annex the South South ethnicities into their fold. All the bargaining power Azikwe used were resources of the SS'ner minorities. However there is one more thing that later came up to make them want these ethnicities more, that is Crude Oil.

Ask yourself, if the seas and crude oil were to be in the Igbo lands of SE, will they ever try this hard to bring the SS'ners into their folds? Will they try hard to even add them to their maps? Will they show the same brotherhood they are showing? SS have oil and seas, but yet some Igbos always feel superior to them, let alone changing the situation to SE having the oil and seas. Just imagine.

I know you will ask what is the Yoruba cup of tea in all this, but this country and forum is intertwined, what affects one affects everybody.

Peace.


Eastern region major resources was palm oil and coal both of which were majorly found in Igboland.
Oil was first discovered in commercial quantities in Oloibiri in 1956, and it took time to develop the oil industry.
The Eastern region never depended on crude oil, it was Palm oil and coal.
So when you go about twisting history like this, it paints you and your Yoruba group as evil.
Even when coal and palm oil were the most important sources of income for Eastern region, Ndiigbo never wanted the division of the region and tried all her best to be fair and just with all minorities.

Because crude oil exploration by shell in the East started in Owerri province,Shell had its headquarters in the region in the Owerri city, but when they couldn't find much oil in Owerri area but struck alot at PH area, Michael Okpara the premier of the regionsuggested Shell moved her headquarters to PH to enable ease of operations and helped them move there.

But the first thing Awolowo did after the war was to move shell and all oil servicing companies to far away Yorubaland in Lagos. Isn't it Ironic that Yoruba like you have the guts of accusing Ndiigbo of coveting Eastern minorities oil, when that was exactly what you did.

Below is your people in Lagos already calling the oil your oil during the war. You couldn't even wait for the war to end to start your war spoils exploitation.



"With the war ended, and as a Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon found that the Rivers State for which I had fought did not end my nightmare. In the first place, oil money from Ogoni country (as well as Ijaw country) was being carted away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate and backward. This is anti-federalism"


Saro Wiwa 1971

This was how Yorubas robbed the Eastern minorities of their oil wealth, while continuously telling them how Ndiigbo was after their crude oil, because they (minorities) couldn't rise above their Igbophobia.
Its a tragedy.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 11:42pm On May 11, 2020
Some weeks back on one of your posts I made a rebuttal about the erroneous and mischievous rants of some of my (our) misinformed Niger Delta brothers.

First and foremost let me tell you all a little story for the avoidance of doubt.

I am from the Agbo ethnic group in Cross River State. We are located in Abi Local Government Area which is a coastal settlement and unarguably the smallest LGA in Cross River State in terms of landmass and to a large extent population - slightly a few thousands ahead of Bakassi LGA.


My fore bearers both on my maternal and paternal side were given the opportunity to serve in then Eastern Nigeria regional government.

My grand uncle Dr.S E Imoke of blessed memory was an all influential cabinet minister in the regime of Dr M I Okpara. He held the Trade portfolio and was also Finance minister at the time until the unfortunate incident of January 1966.


He was the longest serving Education minister. His son the Urbane Liyel Imoke is the immediate past Governor of our state “Cross River”.

During the outbreak of the war, he was the Biafran Commissioner for Refugees and Humanitarian affairs. One of my maternal uncles also served as Permanent Secretary in the ministry of health at Enugu.


My maternal grand father was also a front-line member of the Eastern Nigeria regional house of Chiefs.

Outside my family circles, another great Cross Riverian M T Mbu was nominated a Federal Minister for Transport and Navy by the Igbo controlled NCNC.

It's on record that Mbu was Nigeria's first Ambassador to the UK, UN and the USA.

He is from Boki in Cross River state. Boki is another minority ethnic group just like my native Agboland. The Igbos gave him the opportunity to excel ahead of their own worthy sons at that time.


He is the father to a Senator MT Mbu jr. Another person who is noteworthy is the late Chief Michael Eta-Ogon who was the Administrator of the oil rich Port Harcourt province in the first republic.

He is also from the same Boki with Mbu. Thomas Weir Ikpeme an Efik man from Odukpani in my native Cross River was the longest serving Permanent Secretary in the Eastern Regional Ministry of Education.

The key point is that the Igbos were comfortable with us “the minorities” that was why they entrusted education solely in our hands.

Not only education but other critical areas like Public Works and Transport etc. N. U Akpan an Ibibio man from Akwa Ibom state was the technocrat behind the eastern regional public service. He was the Secretary to the regional governement

Thompson Akpabio, an Annang man from Ukana in present day Akwa Ibom state was the regional minister of health.

The former Governor of Akwa Ibom state Godswill Akpabio is his nephew.

There were other high ranking cabinet ministers of minority origin like one of our family good friends, HRH Amanyanabo E P Okoya, Agada III the Ibenanowei of Ekpetiama in Bayelsa State, Chief. Erekosinma of Rivers and a whole lot of others who are too numerous to mention.

During the secessionist struggle, an Ogoni from Rivers state, Chief.Ignatius Kogbara was Biafra's Ambassador to Britain.

My dad's friend Chief. Lekam Okoi, from Idomi in present day Yakurr LGA of Cross River state was one of Ojukwu's trusted drivers. He is today a successful lawyer and a former commissioner in the Federal Character Commission.

Capt Akpet a minority from Cross River was also Ojukwu's dependable aide on intelligence.

Secondly for the avoidance of doubt, aside these political appointments, our people enjoyed immense goodwill from the Igbo dominated region by way of

My dad's immediate elder brother received a scholarship from the regional government that enabled him study for a PhD in soil science.

He is the first man “arguably” in Africa to obtain a doctorate in Soil science. I have friends across the Niger Delta whose parents, uncles, aunties and relatives also benefited from the benevolence of the Eastern regional government.

Unarguably our Niger Delta region received it's last major face-lift in terms of infrastructure when we were under the Eastern region.

Till the abolition of the regional system of government, the Eastern region was the most united region, they was never a recorded case of ethnic skirmish or BLOOD letting between the Igbos and other minority.

During the pogrom of 1966 we all carried the same cross to “Golgotha”, both Igbos and Eastern minorities were killed in their thousands across Northern Nigeria by the blood thirsty Hausa Fulani/Northern folks without blinking an eye.

It doesn't really matter if you were Igbo, Ijaw, Efik or a miniature Agbo person.

I never really wanted to bore you with reading this lengthy essay but it's my moral responsibility to tell the truth at all times.

I was thought by my fore bearers never to distort history and to always separate facts from fictions.

If we were not marginalized by the Igbos during the “analogue” age, how then can the Igbos marginalize us in this digital

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1092790-opinion-why-igbos-never-marginalize-minorities-by-rex-egbe.html

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Dupamecano: 12:05am On May 12, 2020
Hotice085:
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Your knowledge is deep but it is heavily skwed towards the northern Islamic side of history
Right now we are where we are now and the British have long granted us independence, I don't care if a Cameronian claim he or she is a Nigerian but what can make every body in this entity called Nigeria live and work with every level of respect for each other.
Resistance of any form must be guided underlying the fact that " what I can't do to you don't do to me". This is what I tell every IPOB rats that keeps dragging us into their fantasy
Verbal attacks will never cease, Jonathan said he was the most insulted but PMB will say otherwise, fact it is every leader will be insulted and Nigeria where the youth population is 70% is no exception.

What does "northern islamic side of history" mean? history is history.

First of all people like nowenuse and his ilk have to be seen for the myopic rabble-rousers they are. The people of Nigeria have been brainwashed into blaming presidents or the northern region for their woes when most times the governors, ministers, and senators, their blood and kin are the biggest culprits to their growth. Buhari, and I will defend this to my grave, is a principled man, hes certainly not a looter. But he is in way over his head. Most of Nigeria's institutions have a culture of corruption and ineptitude and its very hard for anyone to completely revamp the system on his own, especially during a democratic rule. My opinion? Screw democracy, its not for us, because any good leader who tries to work within the confines of democracy in Nigeria will fail, Woefully! The simple fact is the majority of nigerians are either rotten or ignorant. The long term solution would be to invest heavily on human capital but unfortunately, even those funds will be hijacked and their effectiveness negated. Everything in this country is a catch 22 paradox. Like i said, get a good leader, give him all the power he wants, cancel out the white noise from the western hypocrites and let him wreak havoc on this rotten country. Thats the only way forward other than separation.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 12:19am On May 12, 2020
pazienza:
Some weeks back on one of your posts I made a rebuttal about the erroneous and mischievous rants of some of my (our) misinformed Niger Delta brothers.

First and foremost let me tell you all a little story for the avoidance of doubt.

I am from the Agbo ethnic group in Cross River State. We are located in Abi Local Government Area which is a coastal settlement and unarguably the smallest LGA in Cross River State in terms of landmass and to a large extent population - slightly a few thousands ahead of Bakassi LGA.


My fore bearers both on my maternal and paternal side were given the opportunity to serve in then Eastern Nigeria regional government.

My grand uncle Dr.S E Imoke of blessed memory was an all influential cabinet minister in the regime of Dr M I Okpara. He held the Trade portfolio and was also Finance minister at the time until the unfortunate incident of January 1966.


He was the longest serving Education minister. His son the Urbane Liyel Imoke is the immediate past Governor of our state “Cross River”.

During the outbreak of the war, he was the Biafran Commissioner for Refugees and Humanitarian affairs. One of my maternal uncles also served as Permanent Secretary in the ministry of health at Enugu.


My maternal grand father was also a front-line member of the Eastern Nigeria regional house of Chiefs.

Outside my family circles, another great Cross Riverian M T Mbu was nominated a Federal Minister for Transport and Navy by the Igbo controlled NCNC.

It's on record that Mbu was Nigeria's first Ambassador to the UK, UN and the USA.

He is from Boki in Cross River state. Boki is another minority ethnic group just like my native Agboland. The Igbos gave him the opportunity to excel ahead of their own worthy sons at that time.


He is the father to a Senator MT Mbu jr. Another person who is noteworthy is the late Chief Michael Eta-Ogon who was the Administrator of the oil rich Port Harcourt province in the first republic.

He is also from the same Boki with Mbu. Thomas Weir Ikpeme an Efik man from Odukpani in my native Cross River was the longest serving Permanent Secretary in the Eastern Regional Ministry of Education.

The key point is that the Igbos were comfortable with us “the minorities” that was why they entrusted education solely in our hands.

Not only education but other critical areas like Public Works and Transport etc. N. U Akpan an Ibibio man from Akwa Ibom state was the technocrat behind the eastern regional public service. He was the Secretary to the regional governement

Thompson Akpabio, an Annang man from Ukana in present day Akwa Ibom state was the regional minister of health.

The former Governor of Akwa Ibom state Godswill Akpabio is his nephew.

There were other high ranking cabinet ministers of minority origin like one of our family good friends, HRH Amanyanabo E P Okoya, Agada III the Ibenanowei of Ekpetiama in Bayelsa State, Chief. Erekosinma of Rivers and a whole lot of others who are too numerous to mention.

During the secessionist struggle, an Ogoni from Rivers state, Chief.Ignatius Kogbara was Biafra's Ambassador to Britain.

My dad's friend Chief. Lekam Okoi, from Idomi in present day Yakurr LGA of Cross River state was one of Ojukwu's trusted drivers. He is today a successful lawyer and a former commissioner in the Federal Character Commission.

Capt Akpet a minority from Cross River was also Ojukwu's dependable aide on intelligence.

Secondly for the avoidance of doubt, aside these political appointments, our people enjoyed immense goodwill from the Igbo dominated region by way of

My dad's immediate elder brother received a scholarship from the regional government that enabled him study for a PhD in soil science.

He is the first man “arguably” in Africa to obtain a doctorate in Soil science. I have friends across the Niger Delta whose parents, uncles, aunties and relatives also benefited from the benevolence of the Eastern regional government.

Unarguably our Niger Delta region received it's last major face-lift in terms of infrastructure when we were under the Eastern region.

Till the abolition of the regional system of government, the Eastern region was the most united region, they was never a recorded case of ethnic skirmish or BLOOD letting between the Igbos and other minority.

During the pogrom of 1966 we all carried the same cross to “Golgotha”, both Igbos and Eastern minorities were killed in their thousands across Northern Nigeria by the blood thirsty Hausa Fulani/Northern folks without blinking an eye.

It doesn't really matter if you were Igbo, Ijaw, Efik or a miniature Agbo person.

I never really wanted to bore you with reading this lengthy essay but it's my moral responsibility to tell the truth at all times.

I was thought by my fore bearers never to distort history and to always separate facts from fictions.

If we were not marginalized by the Igbos during the “analogue” age, how then can the Igbos marginalize us in this digital

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1092790-opinion-why-igbos-never-marginalize-minorities-by-rex-egbe.html


Much Respect, sir!!!

BTW, I interviewed with a doctor Imoke in Maryland for surgical residency a long time ago.
And he sounded almost like you!

Thanks.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Blackking98(m): 12:20am On May 12, 2020
oyatz:
Niger-Delta Republic can happen because

1) There won't be an overwhelming majority ethnic group. Ijaw, Urhobos, Ibiobio are roughly equal in size.

2) There is no great disparities in their cultures, religions and worldviews.

Efik, Ibiobio and Annang are actually different subsets of the same ethnic group.
Ekpeyes, Ikwerres, Etched etc are igboid groups who share so many similarities.

Even Ijaw, Urhobos, Isoko and to some extent Itsekiri have so many things in common.




correct
Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 12:28am On May 12, 2020
pazienza:

Eastern region major resources was palm oil and coal both of which were majorly found in Igboland.

Oil was first discovered in commercial quantities in Oloibiri in 1956, and it took time to develop the oil industry.
The Eastern region never depended on crude oil, it was Palm oil and coal.
So when you go about twisting history like this, it paints you and your Yoruba group as evil.
Even when coal and palm oil were the most important sources of income for Eastern region, Ndiigbo never wanted the division of the region and tried all her best to be fair and just with all minorities.

Because crude oil exploration by shell in the East started in Owerri province,Shell had its headquarters in the region in the Owerri city, but when they couldn't find much oil in Owerri area but struck alot at PH area, Michael Okpara the premier of the regionsuggested Shell moved her headquarters to PH to enable ease of operations and helped them move there.

But the first thing Awolowo did after the war was to move shell and all oil servicing companies to far away Yorubaland in Lagos. Isn't it Ironic that Yoruba like you have the guts of accusing Ndiigbo of coveting Eastern minorities oil, when that was exactly what you did.

Below is your people in Lagos already calling the oil your oil during the war. You couldn't even wait for the war to end to start your war spoils exploitation.



"With the war ended, and as a Commissioner in Rivers State, I soon found that the Rivers State for which I had fought did not end my nightmare. In the first place, oil money from Ogoni country (as well as Ijaw country) was being carted away to Lagos, leaving the Ogoni illiterate and backward. This is anti-federalism"


Saro Wiwa 1971

This was how Yorubas robbed the Eastern minorities of their oil wealth, while continuously telling them how Ndiigbo was after their crude oil, because they (minorities) couldn't rise above their Igbophobia.
Its a tragedy.

Typical Igbo man, you intentionally left the impact of the southern minorities in the Palm oil industry of the Eastern region so as to project an illusion of doing them a favor. Let me refresh your memory.

—In 1936, The british under the United Africa Company first established a 6000 acre plantation of Palm oil plantation in calabar.
—UAC also had a second palm plantation in the Midwest which it inherited from much more earlier period than the above.
—In 1948, The government later developed farm settlement schemes which was first established at Kwa falls near Calabar.
—After series of low level of grove maintenance, the farm settlement were abandoned in 1955, and the farm formed the nucleus of the first plantation of the Eastern Nigeria Development Corporation (ENDC).
—Infact, some major producing provinces of palm in the Eastern region as at 1962-1968 were Uyo, Calabar, PortHacourt.

As per the importance of crude oil in the civil war, I won't even waste my time explaining that coz even a kindergaten will know crude oil is part of the reasons why Ojukwu thought he could stand alone. Infact Crude oil is also one of the reasons why Britain supported Nigeria.

See how you diverted the discourse to Awolowo moving oil company to Lagos like he have ever a president or supreme commander at any time in Nigeria history. However I will refresh your memory to the words of Adaka Boro when he rebelled against the Eastern Region government for the freedom of his people. Adaka Boro led an armed protest against the exploitation of oil and gas resources in the Niger Delta areas which benefited mainly FG and the Eastern region with capital in Enugu and nothing was given to the Niger Delta people . His school of thought was that the Niger Delta people deserved a larger share of proceeds of the oil wealth.

Below is his emotional word when he declared the secession of Niger Delta Republic in Feb 1966:
"Today is a great day, not only in your lives but also in the history of the Niger Delta. Perhaps, it will be the greatest day for a very long time. This is not because we are going to bring the heavens down, but because we are going to demonstrate to the world what and how we feel about oppression. Remember your 70-year-old grandmother who still farms before she eats; remember also your poverty-stricken people; remember, too, your petroleum which is being pumped out daily from your veins; and then fight for your freedom."

He would later be jailed for treason by the Eastern/Federal govt coalition and was released later by Gowon. Later died mysteriously.

The above clearly showed the Igbos have denied the minority their rights especially when you speak about crude oil. So stop pointing your fingers at Awolowo while leaving the wrongs of your own and accept the greed and covetousness of the Igbo man on the minorities.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 12:36am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


Well, this thread is not opened by a Yoruba man and I think we Yorubas on here showed a lot of restraint to be drawn into the argument even when the Hammer guy keep calling us.

What I’ve written is a truth that is available in the public domain and I just brought it here to sharpen the memory of intellectuals. The Southern minorities can think by themselves and they will judge accordingly.

Lastly, there are countless Zik’s speeches that showed the hypocrisy and the magnitude of his greed. Let me not derail this thread by documenting it here. That will be left for another day.

You are such a twister of the truth, and your darkly colored biased underbelly shows.

The Yorubas in the west had problems with minorities in the former western region, not just with the Edos, and Urhobos leading to the creation of the midwestern state.

The north also had problems, much more serious and repressive to the minorities. Col. Anuforo, and Igbo man risked everything to disobey Sarduana's order to shoot demonstrating Tivs on sight.

There was issues with minorities in the eastern region too, but never as bad as it was in the Yoruba west, or Hausa north.

So, when cheap revisionists and liars like you rise up to fuel Igbo vs minorities divide in the east, you should first talk about yours first.

The civil war was used to further divide people of the former eastern region, and many people of average age know the truth. Do you?

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 1:01am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


Typical Igbo man, you intentionally left the impact of the southern minorities in the Palm oil industry of the Eastern region so as to project an illusion of doing them a favor. Let me refresh your memory.

—In 1936, The british under the United Africa Company first established a 6000 acre plantation of Palm oil plantation in calabar.
—UAC also had a second palm plantation in the Midwest which it inherited from much more earlier period than the above.
—In 1948, The government later developed farm settlement schemes which was first established at Kwa falls near Calabar.
—After series of low level of grove maintenance, the farm settlement were abandoned in 1955, and the farm formed the nucleus of the first plantation of the Eastern Nigeria Development Corporation (ENDC).
—Infact, some major producing provinces of palm in the Eastern region as at 1962-1968 were Uyo, Calabar, PortHacourt.

As per the importance of crude oil in the civil war, I won't even waste my time explaining that coz even a kindergaten will know crude oil is part of the reasons why Ojukwu thought he could stand alone. Infact Crude oil is also one of the reasons why Britain supported Nigeria.

See how you diverted the discourse to Awolowo moving oil company to Lagos like he have ever a president or supreme commander at any time in Nigeria history. However I will refresh your memory to the words of Adaka Boro when he rebelled against the Eastern Region government for the freedom of his people. Adaka Boro led an armed protest against the exploitation of oil and gas resources in the Niger Delta areas which benefited mainly FG and the Eastern region with capital in Enugu and nothing was given to the Niger Delta people . His school of thought was that the Niger Delta people deserved a larger share of proceeds of the oil wealth.

Below is his emotional word when he declared the secession of Niger Delta Republic in Feb 1966:
"Today is a great day, not only in your lives but also in the history of the Niger Delta. Perhaps, it will be the greatest day for a very long time. This is not because we are going to bring the heavens down, but because we are going to demonstrate to the world what and how we feel about oppression. Remember your 70-year-old grandmother who still farms before she eats; remember also your poverty-stricken people; remember, too, your petroleum which is being pumped out daily from your veins; and then fight for your freedom."

He would later be jailed for treason by the Eastern/Federal govt coalition and was released later by Gowon. Later died mysteriously.

The above clearly showed the Igbos have denied the minority their rights especially when you speak about crude oil. So stop pointing your fingers at Awolowo while leaving the wrongs of your own and accept the greed and covetousness of the Igbo man on the minorities.

Normal demonic Ibadan express way media lies.

Below are colonial archives of palm oil belt of the country.Onitsha, Owerri were there, and don't forget that Ebonyi was part of Ogoja province.
Eastern region for most of its existence was financed with coal from solely Igboland and palm oil which Igboland contributed lion share of. The first crude oil from Oloibiri was exported in 1958. From 1958 to 1966 is just 8years. Eastern region was established in 1938. Do the maths.

I don't know about Adaka Boro, but he was making empty accusations with no truth in them.
Enugu was a coal city whose coal proceeds helped build even PH, she can't be accused to being a freeloader.

Lagos has been feeding fat off the proceeds of Niger Delta for complete 50years and counting.
Lagos has no known natural resources in its history.
I would soon make a post on ENDC projects and their locations so that we can lay to rest the propaganda of Igbos carting away crude oil wealth of minorities that only was available to the region for 8 yrs at max, between 1958 and 1965, with only few oil wells relative to today, discovered as of then, and using the proceeds to build only Igboland.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 1:28am On May 12, 2020
Infact, I will be running a series on old Eastern region and the propaganda of minorities domination Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda used to pull wool over the eyes of the minorities, stole the crude oil proceeds to Lagos, and forever ensured the Eastern seaports would never be a threat to Lagos seaport monopoly.

I will not be doing this because I want a tower of Babel country with minorities.
Far from it, God forbid such a thing. My stand on Homogeneous Igbo country remains, I will fight with my last blood and ink, against such anomaly.
Ndiigbo deserve some peace after surviving the hell called Nigeria. Sharing a new country with a region of uncountable ethnic groups with divergent agenda, is exactly what we don't need.

I would be doing it because I want to set the records right.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by horsepower102: 1:38am On May 12, 2020
pazienza:
Infact, I will be running a series on old Eastern region and the propaganda of minorities domination Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda used to pull wool over the eyes of the minorities, stole the crude oil proceeds to Lagos, and forever ensured the Eastern seaports would never be a threat to Lagos seaport monopoly.

I will not be doing this because I want a tower of Babel country with minorities.
Far from it, God forbid such a thing. My stand on Homogeneous Igbo country remains.

I would be doing it because I want to set the records right.

Its long overdue. please do so as soon as possible.

this can be discussed in a separate thread
Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 1:41am On May 12, 2020
horsepower102:


Its long overdue. please do so as soon as possible.

this can be discussed in a separate thread

It will be not just one thread.
It will be many threads.
A series.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 1:48am On May 12, 2020
eagleu:


You are such a twister of the truth, and your darkly colored biased underbelly shows.

The Yorubas in the west had problems with minorities in the former western region, not just with the Edos, and Urhobos leading to the creation of the midwestern state.

The north also had problems, much more serious and repressive to the minorities. Col. Anuforo, and Igbo man risked everything to disobey Sarduana's order to shoot demonstrating Tivs on sight.

There was issues with minorities in the eastern region too, but never as bad as it was in the Yoruba west, or Hausa north.

So, when cheap revisionists and liars like you rise up to fuel Igbo vs minorities divide in the east, you should first talk about yours first.

The civil war was used to further divide people of the former eastern region, and many people of average age know the truth. Do you?

You are more concerned with the Yoruba problem with the minorities to derail the subject and forgot about the Igbos issue with the minorities that made some of them want to break up from the Eastern Region. I can help you with some fun fact about Awo's Action Group.

—Do you know that Action Group supported the creation of a non-Igbo state in the Eastern Region, comprising Calabar, Ogoja, and River provinces? Infact that decision made AG won three of the fourteen non-Igbo seats in the 1954 federal election and thirteen of the thirty non-Igbo seats in the 1957 Eastern Region election. Sam Ikoku of Enyong division (Aro-Calabar) was part of AG then.

—Do you know the Awo's Action Group also supported the liberation of the middlebelt people from the North. The United Middle Belt Congress (UMBC) at that time formed an alliance with the AG and was then agitating fr a separate state from Nirthern Nigeria. This alliance was even part of the reason why there is no cooperation between the Northern NPC and AG in national politics.

have you forgotten how the government of NCNC opposed the creation of Calabar-Ogoja-River States from the Eastern Region? Azikwe and the NPC made sure the Mid-West was created but opposed the creation of new states in their respective domain and yet you blame only Awolowo.

Talk of hypocrites, you need no one else except the Igbos. They will accuse other people of what they have done countless times while feigning innocence.

You call me the twister of truth, when the truth is already in the public doamin for everyone to see

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Kidakudz5: 2:03am On May 12, 2020
Dogogo1900:
Everytime someone from Niger Delta says that they don't want to be included in Biafra you will see Igbo people attacking him and calling him a Yoruba man,seriously are these people that stupid not to know by now that we are not interested in their Biafra?
These people will never learn.
The best thing is to ignore them and allow them to waste their time.
i wonder why they are always dragging yorubas into their bullshit..are the cursed or what? angry

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 2:05am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


You are more concerned with the Yoruba problem with the minorities to derail the subject and forgot about the Igbos issue with the minorities that made some of them want to break up from the Eastern Region. I can help you with some fun fact about Awo's Action Group.

—Do you know that Action Group supported the creation of a non-Igbo state in the Eastern Region, comprising Calabar, Ogoja, and River provinces? Infact that decision made AG won three of the fourteen non-Igbo seats in the 1954 federal election and thirteen of the thirty non-Igbo seats in the 1957 Eastern Region election. Sam Ikoku of Enyong division (Aro-Calabar) was part of AG then.

—Do you know the Awo's Action Group also supported the liberation of the middlebelt people from the North. The United Middle Belt Congress (UMBC) at that time formed an alliance with the AG and was then agitating fr a separate state from Nirthern Nigeria. This alliance was even part of the reason why there is no cooperation between the Northern NPC and AG in national politics.

have you forgotten how the government of NCNC opposed the creation of Calabar-Ogoja-River States from the Eastern Region? Azikwe and the NPC made sure the Mid-West was created but opposed the creation of new states in their respective domain and yet you blame only Awolowo.

Talk of hypocrites, you need no one else except the Igbos. They will accuse other people of what they have done countless times while feigning innocence.

You call me the twister of truth, when the truth is already in the public doamin for everyone to see

Don't worry, your lies will be busted.
I will also make a thread on the COR movement and why it died a natural death. With Eyo Ita letter withdrawing his support for the movement. The likes of Mbu, Imoke, Akpabio, Akpan, who were core members of NCNC and from COR opposed Eyo Ita and won in the end.
But shady Ibadan express way media propaganda would as always spin the story to Igbonize NCNC and present Ndiigbo as the ones who opposed COR creation.

Btw, there is nothing like Aro- Calabar. Arochukwu is Igbo and Igbo are not related to Efiks. We are just neighbors.
Alvan Ikoku and his son were proud members of Igbo state Union, and Arochukwu was in Umuahia /Bende zone and not Calabar.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 2:07am On May 12, 2020
pazienza:


Normal demonic Ibadan express way media lies.

Below are colonial archives of palm oil belt of the country.Onitsha, Owerri were there, and don't forget that Ebonyi was part of Ogoja province.
Eastern region for most of its existence was financed with coal from solely Igboland and palm oil which Igboland contributed lion share of. The first crude oil from Oloibiri was exported in 1958. From 1958 to 1966 is just 8years. Eastern region was established in 1938. Do the maths.

I don't know about Adaka Boro, but he was making empty accusations with no truth in them.
Enugu was a coal city whose coals proceeds helped build even PH, she can't be accused to being a freeloader.

Lagos has been feeding fat off the proceeds of Niger Delta for complete 50years and counting.

I would soon make a post on ENDC projects and their locations so that we can lay to rest the propaganda of Igbos carting away crude oil wealth of minorities that only was available to the region for 8 yrs at max, between 1958 and 1965, with only few oil wells relative to today discovered as of then, and using the proceeds to build only Igboland.


LOl. whwn an Igbo can is cornered, they will hastily start mentioning Lagos-Ibadan media as a diversionary tactics.

Firstly why are you bringing the general Nigeria data when we are talking of the Eastern Region. I am talking particularly in context of the Palm oil and the share of the minorities land in its plantation.

You initially said on your first post that the Eastern region palm oil was majorly found in Igboland thereby giving a false illusion that the minorities don't own part of the Palm oil field. You are making it feel like only the Igbos lands contributed to the Palm oil revenues.

Below showed my earlier assertion that Uyo, Calabar, and PortHacort had a big share in the palm oil plantations. The Abakaliki side cannot be compared to the calabar side in importance and that is captured in the report below.

My argument with reference to the above is that you shouldn't make it seem like the Igbos are the only place hosting the palm oil resources, the SS land also contributed as much to that revenue. I don't know about coal, which explained why I did not argue along that line.

With your reference to Lagos and Niger Delta, it is the politics and all regions are feeding fat from Niger Delta oil. All the 5 SE states are also feeding fat from the Niger Delta oil so what is your argument. FCT have been in Abuja since 1991 and it has been feeding fat from the Niger Delta oil since then, why don't you accuse the Hausas too? At least Ondo State has more crude oil than the whole SE states combined.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 2:09am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


Typical Igbo man, you intentionally left the impact of the southern minorities in the Palm oil industry of the Eastern region so as to project an illusion of doing them a favor. Let me refresh your memory.

—In 1936, The british under the United Africa Company first established a 6000 acre plantation of Palm oil plantation in calabar.
—UAC also had a second palm plantation in the Midwest which it inherited from much more earlier period than the above.
—In 1948, The government later developed farm settlement schemes which was first established at Kwa falls near Calabar.
—After series of low level of grove maintenance, the farm settlement were abandoned in 1955, and the farm formed the nucleus of the first plantation of the Eastern Nigeria Development Corporation (ENDC).
—Infact, some major producing provinces of palm in the Eastern region as at 1962-1968 were Uyo, Calabar, PortHacourt.

As per the importance of crude oil in the civil war, I won't even waste my time explaining that coz even a kindergaten will know crude oil is part of the reasons why Ojukwu thought he could stand alone. Infact Crude oil is also one of the reasons why Britain supported Nigeria.

See how you diverted the discourse to Awolowo moving oil company to Lagos like he have ever a president or supreme commander at any time in Nigeria history. However I will refresh your memory to the words of Adaka Boro when he rebelled against the Eastern Region government for the freedom of his people. Adaka Boro led an armed protest against the exploitation of oil and gas resources in the Niger Delta areas which benefited mainly FG and the Eastern region with capital in Enugu and nothing was given to the Niger Delta people . His school of thought was that the Niger Delta people deserved a larger share of proceeds of the oil wealth.

Below is his emotional word when he declared the secession of Niger Delta Republic in Feb 1966:
"Today is a great day, not only in your lives but also in the history of the Niger Delta. Perhaps, it will be the greatest day for a very long time. This is not because we are going to bring the heavens down, but because we are going to demonstrate to the world what and how we feel about oppression. Remember your 70-year-old grandmother who still farms before she eats; remember also your poverty-stricken people; remember, too, your petroleum which is being pumped out daily from your veins; and then fight for your freedom."

He would later be jailed for treason by the Eastern/Federal govt coalition and was released later by Gowon. Later died mysteriously.

The above clearly showed the Igbos have denied the minority their rights especially when you speak about crude oil. So stop pointing your fingers at Awolowo while leaving the wrongs of your own and accept the greed and covetousness of the Igbo man on the minorities.

Now that you're suddenly Adaka Boro promoter, let's just remind you of basic facts about him.

1. His early education was before oil was ever discovered, so he personally benefited from the eastern coal and palm oil economy.

2. His rise to fame started at UNN where an obvious and unbiased Igbo majority students union elected him president.

3. His initial foray into politics began with a communist slant, and then metamorphosed into a liberation struggle.

4. He was also aided and abetted by Yoruba agents who had always sought to divide the east just like Zik allegedly help create the midwestern state out of the western state.

5. Just like Awo, he was duly convicted in a court of law.

6. Anybody who had issues with the east automatically became a hero to Gowon and his agents.

7. Just like Saro Wiwa, the same people who supported him to stab his own people in the back, eventually killed him, because the Yoruba commander in the area became jealous that Boro was becoming more popular than he was. That was Adekunle who killed Boro. He didn't die under mysterious circumstances, read the war records well.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Nobody: 2:18am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:
First of all, you guys need to know exactly why most Igbos are hellbent on annexing the South-South (ND) ethnicities into their Biafra. It is a game plan that have always been in the mind of the Igbo decision makers since inception and they don't necessarily draft the SS people into Biafra based on true brotherhood.

To give you a better account. In May 12th 1953, Azikwe gave a speech when the Northern people were murmuring secession and was bragging with the resources of the Eastern people as his bargaining power.

Below are some excerpts from it that showed why exactly most Igbos are trying so hard to annex SS:
—In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

—It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the East and West uneconomic for the North.

—You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

https://www.blackpast.org/global-african-history/1953-nnamdi-azikiwe-speech-secession/


Brethen, the above is the major reason why they wanted to annex the South South ethnicities into their fold. All the bargaining power Azikwe used were resources of the SS'ner minorities. However there is one more thing that later came up to make them want these ethnicities more, that is Crude Oil.

Ask yourself, if the seas and crude oil were to be in the Igbo lands of SE, will they ever try this hard to bring the SS'ners into their folds? Will they try hard to even add them to their maps? Will they show the same brotherhood they are showing? SS have oil and seas, but yet some Igbos always feel superior to them, let alone changing the situation to SE having the oil and seas. Just imagine.

I know you will ask what is the Yoruba cup of tea in all this, but this country and forum is intertwined, what affects one affects everybody.

Peace.


More excerpts about Nnamdi Azikiwe from his Wikipedia page below. The true enemy of the south, mainly because he wanted to annex the SS and wrestled with Awolowo to be the Premier of the Western Region, he had the same problem in the Gold Coast too lol, the man was a maniac who believed the Igbos were destined to rule all of Africa.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 2:19am On May 12, 2020
eagleu:


Now that you're suddenly Adaka Boro promoter, let's just remind you of basic facts about him.

1. His early education was before oil was ever discovered, so he personally benefited from the eastern coal and palm oil economy.

2. His rise to fame started at UNN where an obvious and unbiased Igbo majority students union elected him president.

3. His initial foray into politics began with a communist slant, and then metamorphosed into a liberation struggle.

4. He was also aided and abetted by Yoruba agents who had always sought to divide the east just like Zik allegedly help create the midwestern state out of the western state.

5. Just like Awo, he was duly convicted in a court of law.

6. Anybody who had issues with the east automatically became a hero to Gowon and his agents.

7. Just like Saro Wiwa, the same people who supported him to stab his own people in the back, eventually killed him, because the Yoruba commander in the area became jealous that Boro was becoming more popular than he was. That was Adekunle who killed Boro. He didn't die under mysterious circumstances, read the war records well.

Your fact about Adaka Boro is baseless because freedom is a right to every man. You are doing like the opressors that is trying to give reason to why the opressed have to remain under him. He was jailed for standing up for his people and demanding for their right and yet you are here saying he shouldn't have stood up for the right of his people because the Igbos gave him chance to become SUG president? Such nonsense!

You are here with the usual rubbish without proof about Adekunle killing Boro that you guys always regurgitate. Where is the proof to that? Which credible source do you have to that effect except the usual propaganda?

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Godhead4(m): 2:21am On May 12, 2020
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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 2:34am On May 12, 2020
KingJa:


More excerpts about Nnamdi Azikiwe from his Wikipedia page below. The true enemy of the south, mainly because he wanted to annex the SS and wrestled with Awolowo to be the Premier of the Western Region, he had the same problem in the Gold Coast too lol, the man was a maniac who believed the Igbos were destined to rule all of Africa.

Azikwe is a conman that have betrayed virtually everyone he came in contact with, even his brethen. After colluding with the North to form a government in the early stage, he later fell out with Balewa towards the parliamentary election of 1964 after betraying what we would have called the southern alliance initially.

He betrayed his colleagues (other premiers) during the masterminded coup which saw only him embarked on a trip to Europe and later on a cruise to the Caribbean in Late 1965 after which the coupist strucked in Jan 15 the next year. In a well Orchestrated plan, he transferred power to Nwafor Orizu who was the Senate president then under the law, while he (Orizu) made a broadcast after briefing Azikwe on the phone on the decision to voluntary transfer power to Aguiyi Ironsi. He (Ironsi) later made a broadcast accepting the invitation from them (Orizu) to form the government. Only Zik survived among his colleague.

He would later denounce Ojukwu and tag him rebel in the international press which can be seen as a betrayal to what Ojukwu and millions of Igbos stood for at that time.

The Igbos will only rather speak about Awolowo and blame him for all what they faced and absolve Azikwe of his numerous wrong.

Tueh!

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 2:36am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


Your fact about Adaka Boro is baseless because freedom is a right to every man. You are doing like the opressors that is trying to give reason to why the opressed have to remain under him. He was jailed for standing up for his people and demanding for their right and yet you are here saying he shouldn't have stood up for the right of his people because the Igbos gave him chance to become SUG president? Such nonsense!

You are here with the usual rubbish without proof about Adekunle killing Boro that you guys always regurgitate. Where is the proof to that? Which credible source do you have to that effect except the usual propaganda?

The corrupt and untrustworthy Yoruba media built Adaka Boro as a man who fought to retain oil revenue for his people against the Igbos, but many of them failed to understand that oil was not even an issue earlier on in Boro's drama.

How convenient for you to claim that Adaka Boro died under mysterious circumstances when Adekunle' s troops ambushed the exuberant young man as he was busy celebrating repelling of Biafran forces the night before.

Truth bites, and the lessons of Saro Wiwa, Adaka Boro, and Afonja shall always be taught in schools so that they understand that your temporary friend who helps you attack your own people will eventually kill you!

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 2:43am On May 12, 2020
eagleu:


The corrupt and untrustworthy Yoruba media built Adaka Boro as a man who fought to retain oil revenue for his people against the Igbos, but many of them failed to understand that oil was not even an issue earlier on in Boro's drama.

How convenient for you to claim that Adaka Boro died under mysterious circumstances when Adekunle' s troops ambushed the exuberant young man as he was busy celebrating repelling of Biafran forces the night before.

Truth bites, and the lessons of Saro Wiwa, Adaka Boro, and Afonja shall always be taught in schools so that they understand that your temporary friend who helps you attack your own people will eventually kill you!

Yes it is always Yorubas that take the blame. The Igbo man must always find a way to blame the Yorubas for everything. It was Yoruba that whispered in the ears of Adaka Boro to rebel? Just as Ojukwu also lied he released a Yoruba man (Awolowo) from prison and that he betrayed him by allying with Gowon to whip up emotions and paint Awo bad supporting Gowon. Just as you blame the Yorubas for your loss in the war with Ojukwu crying that Awo seized his food supply. It must always be the Yorubas!

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Godhead4(m): 2:44am On May 12, 2020
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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 2:53am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:


Yes it is always Yorubas that take the blame. The Igbo man must always find a way to blame the Yorubas for everything. It was Yoruba that whispered in the ears of Adaka Boro to rebel? Just as Ojukwu also lied he released a Yoruba man (Awolowo) from prison and that he betrayed him by allying with Gowon to whip up emotions and paint Awo bad supporting Gowon. Just as you blame the Yorubas for your loss in the war with Ojukwu crying that Awo seized his food supply. It must always be the Yorubas!


Was almost going to ignore you, but if you seriously think that Gowon went to Calabar prison to release Awo, when Calabar was under Biafran control at the time Ojukwu had declared Republic of Biafra, then I see why you lack logical thinking.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by pazienza(m): 2:56am On May 12, 2020
YorubaHero12:

LOl. whwn an Igbo can is cornered, they will hastily start mentioning Lagos-Ibadan media as a diversionary tactics.

Firstly why are you bringing the general Nigeria data when we are talking of the Eastern Region. I am talking particularly in context of the Palm oil and the share of the minorities land in its plantation.

You initially said on your first post that the Eastern region palm oil was majorly found in Igboland thereby giving a false illusion that the minorities don't own part of the Palm oil field. You are making it feel like only the Igbos lands contributed to the Palm oil revenues.

Below showed my earlier assertion that Uyo, Calabar, and PortHacort had a big share in the palm oil plantations. The Abakaliki side cannot be compared to the calabar side in importance and that is captured in the report below.

My argument with reference to the above is that you shouldn't make it seem like the Igbos are the only place hosting the palm oil resources, the SS land also contributed as much to that revenue. I don't know about coal, which explained why I did not argue along that line.

With your reference to Lagos and Niger Delta, it is the politics and all regions are feeding fat from Niger Delta oil. All the 5 SE states are also feeding fat from the Niger Delta oil so what is your argument. FCT have been in Abuja since 1991 and it has been feeding fat from the Niger Delta oil since then, why don't you accuse the Hausas too? At least Ondo State has more crude oil than the whole SE states combined.


Never did I claim that SE was feeding the minorities.
My point was that SE between Coal and palm oil, contributed the most to the region. And it couldn't have been said that the region depended on Niger Delta crude oil wealth which only came on board in 1958.
You were the one that wanted to create the impression of minorities feeding Igbos in Eastern region.

The report you posted was more about ENDC effort to improve Eastern region palm oil export which concentrated more on places with more Empty lands with room for improvement of plantations. Owerri and Onitsha are major production belts yet not mentioned in the report. Abakaliki was never a major palm oil belt, but because the population density was low, ENDC was looking to start palm oil plantations there too.
The report you posted never provided stats on output contributions of each province , so I don't know what to make of it.

If you subtract what only Lagos take from the allocation and the rest of 5 SW States in.comparison to what SE receive, Ondo crude oil contributions become low.
And lets not forget that while Abia and Imo crude oil wells were ceded to Rivers state(Egbema and Oyigbo) by dubious boundary adjustment program, Delta state crude oil wells were dubiously ceded to Ondo state by OBJ administration.

Lagos still robes Niger Delta till today, too many oil servicing companies are still headquartered in Lagos paying taxes to Lagos state government.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Nobody: 3:13am On May 12, 2020
eagleu:


Was almost going to ignore you, but if you seriously think that Gowon went to Calabar prison to release Awo, when Calabar was under Biafran control at the time Ojukwu had declared Republic of Biafra, then I see why you lack logical thinking.

As Nigeria’s head military chief of staff he ordered the release of Awo. Only a stupid person would think he has to physically travel all the way to Calabar in order the release a federal prisoner.

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by eagleu: 3:29am On May 12, 2020
KingJa:


As Nigeria’s head military chief of staff he ordered the release of Awo. Only a stupid person would think he has to physically travel all the way to Calabar to order the release a federal prisoner.

Oh yes!
Imagine a phone call like this:

- Hello, Ojukwu, this Gowon. There's a prisoner by the name of Obafemi Awolowo in in Calabar prison. I want you to release him quickly, and fly him to Lagos.

- Who's this again? Gowon? Go fuucckk yourself, ok!

And the massive Yoruba media somehow has been bent on believing that Ojukwu obeyed Gowon order, and brought Awolowo to Lagos prison where they staged some nice photo op for the World to actually see Gowon releasing Awo from Ikeja prison!!!

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by Nobody: 3:42am On May 12, 2020
eagleu:


Oh yes!
Imagine a phone call like this:

- Hello, Ojukwu, this Gowon. There's a prisoner by the name of Obafemi Awolowo in in Calabar prison. I want you to release him quickly, and fly him to Lagos.

- Who's this again? Gowon? Go fuucckk yourself, ok!

And the massive Yoruba media somehow has been bent on believing that Ojukwu obeyed Gowon order, and brought Awolowo to Lagos prison where they staged some nice photo op for the World to actually see Gowon releasing Awo from Ikeja prison!!!

First of all you need to cite reputable sources to provide evidence that Ojukwu released Awo from prison.

2nd of all there was no plight of secession by Ojukwu at the time of Awo’s release, so why would Ojukwu risk his career and his life (we all know how much he loves his life grin ) by telling the Military’s Head Chief of Staff to fuucckk himself again?

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Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by YorubaHero12: 3:45am On May 12, 2020
pazienza:

Never did I claim that SE was feeding the minorities.
My point was that SE between Coal and palm oil, contributed the most to the region. And it couldn't have been said that the region depended on Niger Delta crude oil wealth which only came on board in 1958.
You were the one that wanted to create the impression of minorities feeding Igbos in Eastern region.
Nope. I never created the impression that the SS'ners are feeding the Igbos. What I just did was to correct your systematic claim of Igbos having all the Palm oil on their land. You will see I made no mention of Coal in my argument.

The report you posted was more about ENDC effort to improve Eastern region palm oil export which concentrated more on places with more Empty lands with room for improvement of plantations. Owerri and Onitsha are major production belts yet not mentioned in the report. Abakaliki was never a major palm oil belt, but because the population density was low, ENDC was looking to start palm oil plantations there too.
The report you posted never provided stats on output contributions of each province , so I don't know what to make of it.
The report I posted did justice to my claim that the SS'ners land also contributed hugely to the Palm Oil plantations of the Eastern Region. You can see I am not fixated on the Igbo part, that is because I base my argument on my premises that "SS'ner land also contribute hugely to the Palm oil plantation in the Eastern Region".

If you subtract what only Lagos take from the allocation and the rest of 5 SW States in.comparison to what SE receive, Ondo crude oil contributions become low.
And lets not forget that while Abia and Imo crude oil wells were ceded to Rivers state(Egbema and Oyigbo) by dubious boundary adjustment program, Delta state crude oil wells were dubiously ceded to Ondo state by OBJ administration.

Don't bore me with politics here so as not to derail the essence. Let me give you a summary of the basic allocation (with 13% derivative) to states based on December 2019 NBS data:
--South South - 57.8 Billion (6 States)
--South West - 20.0 Billion (6 States)
--South East - 16.4 Billion (5 States)
--North West - 25.8 Billion (6 States)


Looking at the above. Why are you fixated on Lagos and SW? Is SE with their 5 states not also getting much from the allocation? Even coupled with the fact that Ondo oil is there, NW got more allocation that SW simply because it is always distributed based on Local government.

infact Kano got more allocation than Lagos in Dec 2019 with 4.8billion against Lagos 4.1billion.

Can you see your grieviances against Lagos and SW is total hogwash? Yorubas are never the problem, the issue is Nigeria.

Source: NBS Dec 2019. http://nigerianstat.gov.ng/elibrary?queries[search]=FAAC

Lagos still robes Niger Delta till today, too many oil servicing companies are still headquartered in Lagos paying taxes to Lagos state government.
C'mon Lagos did not rob any oil company. Lagos attracts foreign investment from all sectors and coupled with the security issue in the Niger Delta area which made investors have confidence in Lagos generally. Stop all these name calling on Yoruba and Lagos blame game, its getting stale.

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