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Emusan:
Is man not CREATED in the IMAGE OF GOD that's the center of the point.

Is Christ NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Proving Christ was created .
Image of God applies to Christ and other creations because God created them with ability to display his characters e.g Justice, love .

These are the questions you're still dodging.

But the core POINT is on the "IMAGE OF.." it seems you don't get it.

*Bearing the IMAGE of the dust makes you having human nature, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes you having the heavenly one NATURE, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*BUT BEARING the IMAGE OF God, doesn't mean HAVING THE NATURE OF GOD!

Speaking from all angles of his mouth.

Ole..

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO THOSE IN HEAVEN , Yes ?

But the Devil himself wrote New World Translation.

And what is Born of the FLESH IS FLESH



The CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born of the flesh but ALL CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WERE BORN OF THE SPIRIT which means you don't understand what it means to be BORN of THE SPIRIT

Scripture always places FLESH and SPIRIT in contrast that's why Jesus said "it's the SPIRIT that quickeneth, the FLESH profiteth nothing" and many such verses in the scripture.

And I've also noticed that you didn't get the point of that Galatians 4, again what Gal 4 means is that:

ALL CHRISTIANS must be born of the spirit which is why we were classified under ISAAC whose mother WAS THE FREEWOMAN

So In Galatians 4 there are ONLY TWO GROUPS the whole people were placed.

1. The group are those who belong to the BONDWOMAN and are born by the FLESH

2. The second group are those who belong to the FREEWOMAN and are BORN by the SPIRIT.

What is born of the Spirit is what ? Is what ? Is what I need an answer ?


( IS Spirit here means = is Holy spirit, have spirit or breath of life , have the hope of becoming spirit being. Pick 1)


Firstly, If all Christians must be born of spirit with the hope of becoming Spirit beings , Those human beings enjoying everlasting life on earth are not Christians ??

Secondly, Group 1 means all those given everlasting life on earth for putting faith in Christ are all Children of the BONDWOMAN . ? Emusan Olodo !!!

Shame suppose catch u

Which verse?

Now you've shifted away from the IMAGE

But why Jesus was talking He said unto them, "Ye are from beneath (Earth), I am from above(Heaven): ye are of this world (earthly); I am NOT of this world"

Image of the heavenly one is not for earthly beings , Yea ?

Barristter07:
When he said it is finished. That render that human body a sacrifice for sin, not meant to be taken back.

So was the human nature tainted with sin before He said IT IS FINISHED?

SO if Jesus didn't take the human nature back, what did the Father resurrect?

NOTE:
The Divine nature mysteriously lost along the line then HUMAN Being appear.

Also, human HAS NOTHING LEFT in them after death according to your doctrine.

So what was resurrected from Christ?

Divinity is one meaning

Divinity refers to quality of being divine

Quality means an attribute possessed by someone.

So when it says Divine Quality ... It refers to his having Godly attributes or characters.

I do not subscribe to meanings like Divine Nature , Or Godhead

Everyone can see the @color part of your deception!

But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.

He can't be God and be lower than angels

He became MAN don't forget.

And I asked : In fact I bookmarked the above , Is Jesus not still lower than angel since by virtue of hypostatic union he is still adding another nature ??

Jesus is still Human in heaven BUT NOT WITH THE HUMAN NATURE HE WAS BORN WITH....before you misunderstand this point, this is what I meant.

The human nature He was born with was used to take away sin after that the corruptible flesh PUT ON incorruptible which is raised in power. This is precedence Christ set for All CHRISTIANS.

Its clear you were wrong that he possess Divine nature of Form , for he could not have Been lower than angels with such nature in him.

Give us the meaning of THEIOTES from any source

Then we'll know what DWELL in that BODILY

Why are you afraiding of posting the meaning here?

It's evident that your lie has been exposed.

Again my very point you're still ignoring is that

JESUS HIMSELF IS THE VARY IMAGE OF GOD

Barristter07:
Proving Christ was created .
Image of God applies to Christ and other creations because God created them with ability to display his characters e.g Justice, love

But image of Adam means HUMAN nature

Lair.....Speaking from all angles of his mouth.

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO THOSE IN HEAVEN , Yes ?

And Man has image of God which is having the nature of God.

What is born of the Spirit is what ? Is what ? Is what I need an answer ?


( IS Spirit here means = is Holy spirit, have spirit or breath of life , have the hope of becoming spirit being. Pick 1)

Now attacking strawman....
What of spiritual? because I can see where your myopic mind limited the meaning to.

Firstly, If all Christians must be born of spirit with the hope of becoming Spirit beings , Those human beings enjoying everlasting life on earth are not Christians

Secondly, Group 1 means all those given everlasting life on earth for putting faith in Christ are all Children of the BONDWOMAN . ? Emusan Olodo !!!

Shame suppose catch u

What Apostle Paul says in those verses is to group people into two.

Firstly, CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN who are born of the FLESH and the Children of the FREEWOMAN who are born of the SPIRIT.

secondly, ALL CHRISTIANS are to be BORN BY THE SPIRIT

Olodo....jatijati

Image of the heavenly one is not for earthly beings , Yea ?

Image of God makes man have the Nature of God, yeah!

Emusan:
So was the human nature tainted with sin before He said IT IS FINISHED?

When he said it is finished. U have an ears , dont you ?

SO if Jesus didn't take the human nature back, what did the Father resurrect?

NOTE:
The Divine nature mysteriously lost along the line then HUMAN Being appear.

Also, human HAS NOTHING LEFT in them after death according to your doctrine.

So what was resurrected from Christ?

Each person has a life force / Spirit of life which returns to God at death. Restoring this brings the person back to LIFE either as a Divine being or human being. This is what happen with Jesus ressurection.

And when he comes to earth, its this same life force that was transferred to Marys woman in a changed Nature.

Everyone can see the @color part of your deception!

But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.



He became MAN don't forget.



Jesus is still Human in heaven BUT NOT WITH THE HUMAN NATURE HE WAS BORN WITH ....before you misunderstand this point, this is what I meant.

So You agreed Jesus was not raised with his human body he has on earth ?

Now since Jesus is still human in heaven , that means he still added another nature which makes him lower than angels till today

The human nature He was born with was used to take away sin after that the corruptible flesh PUT ON incorruptible which is raised in power. This is precedence Christ set for All CHRISTIANS.

It is sown a physical body and raised a spiritual body. Lie small small sir.

Give us the meaning of THEIOTES from any source

Then we'll know what DWELL in that BODILY

Why are you afraiding of posting the meaning here?

It's evident that your lie has been exposed.

Jesus cannot Have Divine nature dwelling in him and still lower than angels. That logic means he is still lower than. Angels to now

Again my very point you're still ignoring is that

JESUS HIMSELF IS THE VARY IMAGE OF GOD

God created his intelligent creations in his image. So Jesus is not an exception ...

That is not the same as Image of the heavenly one restricted to Heaven !!!

Emusan:
But image of Adam means HUMAN nature

Lair.....Speaking from all angles of his mouth.



And Man has image of God which is having the nature of God.

Image of God is for Gods intelligent creations either in heaven or earth.

Image of the heavenly one is strictly for those in heaven !!!

Now attacking strawman....
What of spiritual? because I can see where your myopic mind limited the meaning to.

What is born of Spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Pneuma NOT pneumatikos

Na wa

What Apostle Paul says in those verses is to group people into two.

Firstly, CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN who are born of the FLESH and the Children of the FREEWOMAN who are born of the SPIRIT.

secondly, ALL CHRISTIANS are to be BORN BY THE SPIRIT

Olodo....jatijati

What is born of spirit " IS SPIRIT "

And a spirit does not have flesh and bones.

So how could Christians putting faith in Christ live forever on earth as human beings if they are born of spirit ?

Worse is this ones are in the image of God but not the heavenly image.

Image of God makes man have the Nature of God, yeah!

Gods intelligent creations are in his image. Has nothing to do with nature.

Barristter07:
When he said it is finished. U have an ears , dont you ?

Then we can conclusively say The HUMAN NATURE was not tainted with sin not until He was PUT ON THE CROSS. Right?

Each person has a life force / Spirit of life which returns to God at death. Restoring this brings the person back to LIFE either as a Divine being or human being. This is what happen with Jesus ressurection.

And when he comes to earth, its this same life force that was transferred to Marys woman in a changed Nature.

Now we're going somewhere.

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?
2. Was it reside inside something?
3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

So You agreed Jesus was not raised with his human body he has on earth ?

You want to use style runaway from my point.

Did NATURE appear in that verse?


But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.

If you ignore any of my questions anymore then forget it

After my explanation you can still confused!

He was raised with human body but that body was raised in power and glory which makes it JUST NOT ORDINARY HUMAN BODY ANYMORE

Now since Jesus is still human in heaven , that means he still added another nature which makes him lower than angels till today

The corrupted human nature makes Him lowered than the angels but when transformation occurred the body was raised in power and glory.

Lemme stop there to press your mumu number more!

It is sown a physical body and raised a spiritual body. Lie small small sir.

Was it not what you sow that you'll reap?

Jesus cannot Have Divine nature dwelling in him and still lower than angels. That logic means he is still lower than. Angels to now

GIVE US THE MEANING OF THEIOTES first at least people will decide that after they know the meaning of the word that was used their.

You said out of your selfish interest you disagree with DIVINE NATURE.

God created his intelligent creations in his image. So Jesus is not an exception ...

Another fraud interpretation...
Jesus was not CREATED as the image of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Do you see the difference?

Olodo rabata

That is not the same as Image of the heavenly one restricted to Heaven !!!

But the image of Adam makes us having human nature and the image of heavenly one laws them having his nature then BOOM image of God didn't make man having God nature!

Janosky:
Look at your posts...
The message of your posts is that your deity is a liar like you are.

U no get answer to my question. Jehovah doesn't give his glory to anyone yet he gave it to Jesus

C confusion!!!!

Barristter07:
Proving Christ was created .
Image of God applies to Christ and other creations because God created them with ability to display his characters e.g Justice, love .



Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO THOSE IN HEAVEN , Yes ?



What is born of the Spirit is what ? Is what ? Is what I need an answer ?


( IS Spirit here means = is Holy spirit, have spirit or breath of life , have the hope of becoming spirit being. Pick 1)


Firstly, If all Christians must be born of spirit with the hope of becoming Spirit beings , Those human beings enjoying everlasting life on earth are not Christians ??

Secondly, Group 1 means all those given everlasting life on earth for putting faith in Christ are all Children of the BONDWOMAN . ? Emusan Olodo !!!

Shame suppose catch u


Image of the heavenly one is not for earthly beings , Yea ?

Before the incarnation, wht image was Christ created in?

Emusan:
Then we can conclusively say The HUMAN NATURE was not tainted with sin not until He was PUT ON THE CROSS. Right?

Stake .. Yes treated as though tainted with sin at that point.

Now we're going somewhere.

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?
2. Was it reside inside something?
3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

The life force is not conscious neither is it a person , But it powers a nature and make them living .

You want to use style runaway from my point.

Did NATURE appear in that verse?


But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Going by Divinity , it also means Divine qualities.

You are also using your own opinion here.

BUT HE CAN'T HAVE DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN HIM AND BE LOWER THAN ANGELS or Be said to have emptied it.


He had to be human in ALL ASPECT of it. Not adding another nature.

" Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, " Heb 2:10

Having Divine nature doesn't make him one of us in every respect.

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.

His nature was changed. Emptying the first

If you ignore any of my questions anymore then forget it

After my explanation you can still confused!

He was raised with human body but that body was raised in power and glory which makes it JUST NOT ORDINARY HUMAN BODY ANYMORE

" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

As long as he added human nature . He is lower than the angels.

While on earth he was perfect yet lower than angels .

The corrupted human nature makes Him lowered than the angels

" You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor " Heb 2:7
U lied.

Jesus didn't inherit the corrupted human nature yet Said to be lower than angels .

So far he is human, he is lower than the angels.


" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

but when transformation occurred the body was raised in power and glory.

You mean he was given ANOTHER BODY ??

Because the body of Jesus functions with full blood. The life of the flesh is in it's blood.

as it not what you sow that you'll reap?

1Cor 15:45 it is sown a physical body and raised a Spiritual body .

Spiritual body isn't physical.

GIVE US THE MEANING OF THEIOTES first at least people will decide that after they know the meaning of the word that was used their.

You said out of your selfish interest you disagree with DIVINE NATURE.

You already lied above that he was lower than angels because of sinful human nature. Jesus didn't inherit sin. Someone with Divine nature dwelling in them can't be lower than angels. Neither can he be like us

Another fraud interpretation...
Jesus was not CREATED as the image of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Do you see the difference?

Olodo rabata

Not even image of Jesus . eeyah. Its clear
Just as Adam he was made in that image of his creator. Adam became a son just as he

But the image of Adam makes us having human nature and the image of heavenly one laws them having his nature then BOOM image of God didn't make man having God nature!

Image of the heavenly one is Restricted to heaven!!! Deal with it.

Barristter07:
Stake .. Yes treated as though tainted with sin at that point.



The life force is not conscious neither is it a person , But it powers a nature and make them living .

Badtguy pretend like u didn't c my question. Before Jesus came to earth what image did he have?



Going by Divinity , it also means Divine qualities.

You are also using your own opinion here.

BUT HE CAN'T HAVE DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN HIM AND BE LOWER THAN ANGELS or Be said to have emptied it.


He had to be human in ALL ASPECT of it. Not adding another nature.

" Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, " Heb 2:10

Having Divine nature doesn't make him one of us in every respect.





His nature was changed. Emptying the first




" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

As long as he added human nature . He is lower than the angels.

While on earth he was perfect yet lower than angels .



" You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor " Heb 2:7
U lied.

Jesus didn't inherit the corrupted human nature yet Said to be lower than angels .

So far he is human, he is lower than the angels.


" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan




You mean he was given ANOTHER BODY ??

Because the body of Jesus functions with full blood. The life of the flesh is in it's blood.



1Cor 15:45 it is sown a physical body and raised a Spiritual body .

Spiritual body isn't physical.



You already lied above that he was lower than angels because of sinful human nature. Jesus didn't inherit sin. Someone with Divine nature dwelling in them can't be lower than angels. Neither can he be like us



Not even image of Jesus . eeyah. Its clear
Just as Adam he was made in that image of his creator. Adam became a son just as he



Image of the heavenly one is Restricted to heaven!!! Deal with it.

What image did Jesus have bfre d incarnation

freshboi88:
What image did Jesus have bfre d incarnation

image of God. Just as Adam too was made in the image of God. It means he is the Creator of those In his image

Maximus69:
@bolded.

So you can now determine which of the groups has been consistent when the book in itself is filled with so many inconsistencies and contradictions which has led to the explosion in different translations eisegesis and denominations!

You're welcome!

Do you know that JW is more likely to be considered a Jewish organisation than a Christian organisation?
Because you hold the old testament laws more rigidly than the liberty promised in the new testament.
Even the Holy Spirit that differentiates the New testament from the Old, is just a force to you and not a manifestation of God.

You are not even allowed to drink the holy communion which Christ commanded everyone to partake in rememberamce of him.

You're either very low in IQ or you have just been brainwashed. I really wamt to believe it's the latter.

freshboi88:
U no get answer to my question. Jehovah doesn't give his glory to anyone yet he gave it to Jesus

C confusion!!!!

John 17:22, the same glory Jesus gave his disciples... So his disciples are Deity..
ALL of them share am....
Freshboi know NOTHING !!!!
Jesus Christ done confirm Say Freshboi know NOTHING !!!!


22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—

24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world."

The glory Yahweh gave Jesus, he gave to his disciples, according to Freshboi GIBBERISH , therefore "Jesus disciples are Deity.

Myer:
Do you know that JW is more likely to be considered a Jewish organisation than a Christian organisation?
Because you hold the old testament laws more rigidly than the liberty promised in the new testament.
Even the Holy Spirit that differentiates the New testament from the Old, is just a force to you and not a manifestation of God.

You are not even allowed to drink the holy communion which Christ commanded everyone to partake in rememberamce of him.

You're either very low in IQ or you have just been brainwashed. I really wamt to believe it's the latter.

So your deity breathed himself into his disciples

Myer fabrication,not in the holy Bible....
Triune pagan deity devotee GIBBERISH

Myer GIBBERISH .

Barristter07:
image of God. Just as Adam too was made in the image of God. It means he is the Creator of those In his image

Gbam !

Barristter07:
image of God. Just as Adam too was made in the image of God. It means he is the Creator of those In his image

But u said Jesus is was angel Micheal. So r angels made in the image of God also?

Or did he becoming the image of God start when he was born a human?

Myer:
Do you know that JW is more likely to be considered a Jewish organisation than a Christian organisation?
Because you hold the old testament laws more rigidly than the liberty promised in the new testament.
Even the Holy Spirit that differentiates the New testament from the Old, is just a force to you and not a manifestation of God.

You are not even allowed to drink the holy communion which Christ commanded everyone to partake in rememberamce of him.

You're either very low in IQ or you have just been brainwashed. I really wamt to believe it's the latter.

My brother they have been brainwashed.......I have Asked barrister a question...watch him mumu himself

Janosky:
So your deity breathed himself into his disciples

Myer fabrication,not in the holy Bible....
Triune pagan deity devotee GIBBERISH

Myer GIBBERISH .

I don't get you.
Guess you're also JW.

Janosky:
John 17:22, the same glory Jesus gave his disciples... So his disciples are Deity..
ALL of them share am....
Freshboi know NOTHING !!!!
Jesus Christ done confirm Say Freshboi know NOTHING !!!!


22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—

24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world."

The glory Yahweh gave Jesus, he gave to his disciples, according to Freshboi GIBBERISH , therefore "Jesus disciples are Deity.

I understand the scriptures you have quoted.
What I don't understand is how you are the glory of God. You who have no likeness of God or Christ for that matter.
Fruit of the spirit, you're lacking.
Healing power, you're lacking.
Even wisdom, you're lacking.

Maybe your conversion is questionable or somebody lied.

Barristter07:
Stake .. Yes treated as though tainted with sin at that point.

Just see the way you're just deceiving yourself.

"TREATED AS IF...." Was Him TREATED as if IT WAS TAINTED with sin or ACTUALLY CARRIED the whole SIN of the world?

If we should go with this your statement, it means in real sense the NATURE wasn't tainted with sin but JUST made to look as being TAINTED with sin.

Your delusion never do!

The life force is not conscious neither is it a person , But it powers a nature and make them living .

My questions here are THREE QUESTIONS but as usual you stylishly boycotted the rest by only answer one! Again these are the questions

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?
2. Was it reside inside something?
3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

Also, looking at your answer one can see how myopic you are

You said "LIFE POWERS a NATURE and make them LIVING"

So NATURE is actually THE PERSON while LIFE force That God sent/converted to Human nature/God will resurrect wasn't the ACTUAL PERSON.

Answer the rest of my questions let's see your lying mouth once again.

Going by Divinity , it also means Divine qualities.

You are also using your own opinion here.

I didn't it's you a lying mouth who did.

Did NATURE appear in that verse a you earlier lie that it didn't.

And the point of that verse centered on DWELL IN BODILY which means it's DIVINE NATURE

BUT HE CAN'T HAVE DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN HIM AND BE LOWER THAN ANGELS or Be said to have emptied it.

He had to be human in ALL ASPECT of it. Not adding another nature.

" Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, " Heb 2:10

Having Divine nature doesn't make him one of us in every respect.

His nature was changed. Emptying the first

" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

As long as he added human nature . He is lower than the angels.

While on earth he was perfect yet lower than angels .

" You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor " Heb 2:7
U lied.

Jesus didn't inherit the corrupted human nature yet Said to be lower than angels .

So far he is human, he is lower than the angels.

" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

The DIVINE NATURE/Godhead DWELL in the Body of Christ that's what the Holy book says.

He was made lower than the Angels by becoming HUMAN Is that hard for you to comprehend?

Or didn't we say Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth.

Olodo buruku.

You mean he was given ANOTHER BODY ??

Because the body of Jesus functions with full blood. The life of the flesh is in it's blood.

1Cor 15:45 it is sown a physical body and raised a Spiritual body .

Spiritual body isn't physical.

You just keep exposing your ignorance.

The body was RAISED IN POWER the same BODY but now nothing just ORDINARY DECAY/CORRUPTED/WEAK/MORTAL body anymore. Should we operate sense into your dumb skull?

Like I said, what you people lack is scriptural understanding.

Spiritual body NOT A SPIRIT BEING...

Lemme help your deluded mind about what spiritual body means!

1 Corinthian 15:53 "For this corruptible (sinful present body) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) incorruptible, and this mortal(frail/decay/weak) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) immortality"

Now look at the meaning of the Greek word "enduo" translated as "PUT ON"

Strong's Concordance

enduo: I put on, clothe

Original Word: ἐνδύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: enduo
Phonetic Spelling: (en-doo'-o)
Definition: to clothe or be clothed with (in the sense of sinking into a garment)
Usage: I put on, clothe (another).

You can see that HUMAN BEING will not suddenly become a SPIRIT BEING because we are created as human and we'll continue to live as human FOREVER.

I guess if you PUT ON your clothe your body suddenly disappeared and your clothe is now you.

Olodo buruku.

You already lied above that he was lower than angels because of sinful human nature. Jesus didn't inherit sin. Someone with Divine nature dwelling in them can't be lower than angels. Neither can he be like us

He was lower than the angels by BECOMING HUMAN BEING which is taking up a SINFUL NATURE....your brain is paining you.

Not even image of Jesus . eeyah. Its clear
Just as Adam he was made in that image of his creator. Adam became a son just as he

You're still opening your lying mouth.

Show us where the scripture says Jesus was CREATED in the Image of God....that's from your deluded brain and mind.

JESUS is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD and even THE EXERT PERSON of the Father.

So you can see how all these keep exposing your lying mouth.

Image of the heavenly one is Restricted to heaven!!! Deal with it.

Image of God makes man to have God's nature....wrap your dull skull with that!

Barristter07:
Image of God is for Gods intelligent creations either in heaven or earth.

You're still lying:

Are angels THE image of God?
Is Man THE image of God

Jesus wasn't created with THE IMAGE of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

lying liar.

Image of the heavenly one is strictly for those in heaven !!!

And man is created in the image of God.

What is born of Spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Pneuma NOT pneumatikos

Na wa

You means Pneuma isn't also spiritual

What is born of spirit " IS SPIRIT "

And a spirit does not have flesh and bones.

So how could Christians putting faith in Christ live forever on earth as human beings if they are born of spirit ?

Gal 4:23-31 make it clear that CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born by the FLESH while the children of the FREEWOMAN are born by the SPIRT.

Which makes it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS/FOLLOWERS of Christ will be born by the SPIRIT.

Since your demonic organization has deceived you that you'll be born by the flesh then it means you're one of the CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN.

Worse is this ones are in the image of God but not the heavenly image.

Is image of heavenly one not make them to have the Nature of the heavenly one?

So image of God should also make man to have the Nature of God.

Gods intelligent creations are in his image. Has nothing to do with nature.

Ole....
But the image of the heavenly one is about his nature!

Twisted mouth and lying tongue.

One thing I've realized about the Bible is that there's always a verse to counter another verse.This argument will not end

Emusan:
Just see the way you're just deceiving yourself.

"TREATED AS IF...." Was Him TREATED as if IT WAS TAINTED with sin or ACTUALLY CARRIED the whole SIN of the world?

If we should go with this your statement, it means in real sense the NATURE wasn't tainted with sin but JUST made to look as being TAINTED with sin.

Your delusion never do!

Since you lacked understanding , Let this cure your delusion.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - " For God made Christ, who never sinned , to be the offering for our sin, "

He himself has no traces of sin in him. Never inherit sin or sinned.

My questions here are THREE QUESTIONS but as usual you stylishly boycotted the rest by only answer one! Again these are the questions

Already answered

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?

No, but it contains every information about a person. This is why Jesus could say Not one of your hairs will be missing.

2. Was it reside inside something?

It powers the person

3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

Not the actual person, a person is a soul = Body + life force

[s]
Also, looking at your answer one can see how myopic you are

You said "LIFE POWERS a NATURE and make them LIVING"

So NATURE is actually THE PERSON while LIFE force That God sent/converted to Human nature/God will resurrect wasn't the ACTUAL PERSON.

Answer the rest of my questions let's see your lying mouth once again. [/s]

I didn't it's you a lying mouth who did.

Did NATURE appear in that verse a you earlier lie that it didn't.

And the point of that verse centered on DWELL IN BODILY which means it's DIVINE NATURE



The DIVINE NATURE/Godhead DWELL in the Body of Christ that's what the Holy book says.

He was made lower than the Angels by becoming HUMAN Is that hard for you to comprehend?

We are lower than angels because we are Ordinary humans . For someone to have the divine nature dwelling in them . They are not lower than angels. You can't escape this lie. They are beyond human

Or didn't we say Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth.

Olodo buruku.

Fully human But Heavenly , and that one is lower than angels in your eyes ?

You need help

You just keep exposing your ignorance.

The body was RAISED IN POWER the same BODY but now nothing just ORDINARY DECAY/CORRUPTED/WEAK/MORTAL body anymore. Should we operate sense into your dumb skull?

Like I said, what you people lack is scriptural understanding.

Spiritual body NOT A SPIRIT BEING...

Lemme help your deluded mind about what spiritual body means!

1 Corinthian 15:53 "For this corruptible (sinful present body) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) incorruptible, and this mortal(frail/decay/weak) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) immortality"

Now look at the meaning of the Greek word "enduo" translated as "PUT ON"

Strong's Concordance

enduo: I put on, clothe

Original Word: ἐνδύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: enduo
Phonetic Spelling: (en-doo'-o)
Definition: to clothe or be clothed with (in the sense of sinking into a garment)
Usage: I put on, clothe (another).

You can see that HUMAN BEING will not suddenly become a SPIRIT BEING because we are created as human and we'll continue to live as human FOREVER.

PUT ON here does not mean Transformed . if that's the Case , billions that have died and rotten into dust Will make this Scripture a Lie. They should have been Transformed immediately. its obvious you are just a liar .

Your second point.- What is born of Spirit is SPIRIT . not flesh.

Again it says " it is down a physical body and raised a Spiritual body "

Spiritual defined as that which is OPPOSED TO PHYSICAL

You can't be raised as a spiritual being and still retain Physical nature.

I guess if you PUT ON your clothe your body suddenly disappeared and your clothe is now you.

Olodo buruku.

That means ALL the bodies of the apostles that have rotten in the graves should not have rotten at all , Do you now see how low your thinking is ?

He was lower than the angels by BECOMING HUMAN BEING which is taking up a SINFUL NATURE....your brain is paining you.

Jesus didn't take up a sinful Nature. liar ... Jesus was a perfect Man just as Adam when he was Created. Adam even before he sinned was lower than angels.

You're still opening your lying mouth.

Show us where the scripture says Jesus was CREATED in the Image of God....that's from your deluded brain and mind.

JESUS is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD and even THE EXERT PERSON of the Father.

So you can see how all these keep exposing your lying mouth.

Wonder why no one is ever called " Son of Jesus " ??

Your interpretation was a clear Lie.

Do u ever read that the Father is in anyone's Very image ?? You no just get sense

Image of God means he came from that person whose image he bears.

Image of God makes man to have God's nature....wrap your dull skull with that!

Grabbing straws

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO HEAVEN!!!

Emusan:
You're still lying:

Are angels THE image of God?
Is Man THE image of God

Jesus wasn't created with THE IMAGE of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

lying liar.

Jesus , Man, Angels are all SONS OF GOD. His image . He created them all

And man is created in the image of God.

Just as Jesus.

You means Pneuma isn't also spiritual

It says pneuma.

God " IS SPIRIT "

What is born of Spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Does this refer to Spirit nature ?

Gal 4:23-31 make it clear that CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born by the FLESH while the children of the FREEWOMAN are born by the SPIRT.

Which makes it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS/FOLLOWERS of Christ will be born by the SPIRIT.

Since your demonic organization has deceived you that you'll be born by the flesh then it means you're one of the CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN.

What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT

A SPIRIT does not have FLESH and BONES.

Revelation 21:3,4 pictures Humans living forever on earth , According to Emusan.. This humans who put full faith in Jesus to deserve everlasting life are all Children of the Bondwoman. Devil dey play chess with ya head

Is image of heavenly one not make them to have the Nature of the heavenly one?

So ARE THOSE IN HEAVEN ..dont you read that ? You can't be on earth and claim to be having the image of the heavenly one.

The word heaven there indicate LIFE in a different habitat.

So image of God should also make man to have the Nature of God.



Ole....
But the image of the heavenly one is about his nature!

Twisted mouth and lying tongue.

SO ARE THOSE IN HEAVEN , isn't that clear enough ? Grabbing straws

Emusan:
Everyone knows Jesus died but only a deluded JWs will think the YEARS of Jesus ended when He died when they believe the same Jesus is still in heaven now.

Did Bible say Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever?

Same yesterday, today and forever is about personality. Simple truth . he died , hebrew said the years of that person never end . never means not even a moment. You guys should stop twisting what's not there

Barristter07:
Since you lacked understanding , Let this cure your delusion.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - " For God made Christ, who never sinned , to be the offering for our sin, "

He himself has no traces of sin in him. Never inherit sin or sinned.


Already answered


No, but it contains every information about a person. This is why Jesus could say Not one of your hairs will be missing.


It powers the person




Not the actual person, a person is a soul = Body + life force





We are lower than angels because we are Ordinary humans . For someone to have the divine nature dwelling in them . They are not lower than angels. You can't escape this lie. They are beyond human



Fully human But Heavenly , and that one is lower than angels in your eyes ?

You need help



PUT ON here does not mean Transformed . if that's the Case , billions that have died and rotten into dust Will make this Scripture a Lie. They should have been Transformed immediately. its obvious you are just a liar .

Your second point.- What is born of Spirit is SPIRIT . not flesh.

Again it says " it is down a physical body and raised a Spiritual body "

Spiritual defined as that which is OPPOSED TO PHYSICAL

You can't be raised as a spiritual being and still retain Physical nature.



That means ALL the bodies of the apostles that have rotten in the graves should not have rotten at all , Do you now see how low your thinking is ?



Jesus didn't take up a sinful Nature. liar ... Jesus was a perfect Man just as Adam when he was Created. Adam even before he sinned was lower than angels.



Wonder why no one is ever called " Son of Jesus " ??

Your interpretation was a clear Lie.

Do u ever read that the Father is in anyone's Very image ?? You no just get sense

Image of God means he came from that person whose image he bears.



Grabbing straws

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO HEAVEN!!!

Am really suprised to see him use transform for a dead person. In Rapture transformed is believed to be for those alive., how he managed to twist and turn here baffles . And yes Logic speaks , No disciple should have been left to decay since transform is the other of the day .

Myer:
Do you know that JW is more likely to be considered a Jewish organisation than a Christian organisation?
Because you hold the old testament laws more rigidly than the liberty promised in the new testament.
Even the Holy Spirit that differentiates the New testament from the Old, is just a force to you and not a manifestation of God.

You are not even allowed to drink the holy communion which Christ commanded everyone to partake in rememberamce of him.

You're either very low in IQ or you have just been brainwashed. I really wamt to believe it's the latter.

Typical antagonist!

You said "the book is complicated and the adherents are confused" yet you're here again saying "some adherents are more confused than others"

What's the yardstick for ascertaining that when you're said the book itself is full of contradictions?

freshboi88:
My brother they have been brainwashed.......I have Asked barrister a question...watch him mumu himself

U this mumu that ran away from the other Mark 5 thread. I just dey look you

NOTE: Failure to reply to my post you cancelled means you won't get any reply from me....

Barristter07:
Since you lacked understanding , Let this cure your delusion.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - " For God made Christ, who never sinned , to be the offering for our sin, "

He himself has no traces of sin in him. Never inherit sin or sinned.

Then who says Christ SINNED?

You're still living in delusion

HE CARRIED our SIN on HIS BODY, isn't that what the scripture said?

Which means the human nature WAS NEVER TAINTED with sin NOT UNTIL He bear our sins ON THE CROSS.

Already answered

Liar answer my questions.

No, but it contains every information about a person. This is why Jesus could say Not one of your hairs will be missing.

So ONLY INFORMATION is what God sent and NOT THE VERY PERSON.

It powers the person

So is it PERSON that God sent or INFORMATION?

Not the actual person, a person is a soul = Body + life force

So what Happened to the BODY WHEN THE LIFE FORCE IS GONE? The person DIED, Isn't it?

This bring us back to the very point earlier that THE FATHER KILLED Jesus.

Again, what then Happened to the very PERSON the life force was REMOVE....

Likewise, this contradicts the scripture that what God sent is a PERSON not just some shit INFORMATION....

We are lower than angels because we are Ordinary humans . For someone to have the divine nature dwelling in them . They are not lower than angels. You can't escape this lie. They are beyond human

IS Jesus not FULLY HUMAN?

I've done with this....no reply next time!

Fully human But Heavenly , and that one is lower than angels in your eyes ?

Is human not lower than the Angels?
Is Jesus FULLY HUMAN?

You need help

And your delusion needs reformatting.

PUT ON here does not mean Transformed . if that's the Case , billions that have died and rotten into dust Will make this Scripture a Lie. They should have been Transformed immediately. its obvious you are just a liar.

Is evident that your delusion is incurable...

This is talking about what will happen at RESURRECTION

Olodo...oshi

Your second point.- What is born of Spirit is SPIRIT . not flesh.

Again it says " it is down a physical body and raised a Spiritual body "

Spiritual defined as that which is OPPOSED TO PHYSICAL

But do you see the FLESH in Jesus statement as OPPOSED to the SPIRIT?

Now you've vindicate my earlier point when I said

"scripture always contrasts FLESH and SPIRIT"

Hypocrite!

You can't be raised as a spiritual being and still retain Physical nature.

Nowhere in the scripture you will find RASIED AS SPIRITUAL BEING that's is your own lie about the scripture.

Apostle Paul says PUT ON which is

Strong's Concordance
enduo: I put on, clothe
Original Word: ἐνδύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: enduo
Phonetic Spelling: (en-doo'-o)
Definition: to clothe or be clothed with (in the sense of sinking into a garment)
Usage: I put on, clothe (another).

That means ALL the bodies of the apostles that have rotten in the graves should not have rotten at all , Do you now see how low your thinking is ?

AT RESURRECTION....dumb skull!

Jesus didn't take up a sinful Nature. liar ... Jesus was a perfect Man just as Adam when he was Created. Adam even before he sinned was lower than angels.

Then who says Jesus isn't PERFECT.....

Your short of memory is greatly affecting your delusion the more!.

Remember, what leads to this is when you want to proof that DIVINE NATURE can't DWELL in a SINFUL NATURE of man, which I then making you understand that the human nature of Christ wasn't TAINTED with SIN not UNTIL He was put on the CROSS a carried the whole world sin.

Short of memory is another sickness of yours...

Wonder why no one is ever called " Son of Jesus "??

Your interpretation was a clear Lie.

Do u ever read that the Father is in anyone's Very image ?? You no just get sense

Image of God means he came from that person whose image he bears.

So image of heavenly one means they came from Christ since they bear Christ image!

There's no how you twist your lying mouth I won't straight it for you.

Grabbing straws

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO HEAVEN!!!

So image of heavenly one means they came from Christ since they bear Christ image!

Peacefullove:
Same yesterday, today and forever is about personality. Simple truth . he died , hebrew said the years of that person never end . never means not even a moment. You guys should stop twisting what's not there

See twisting....

Now it's PERSONALITY....

Show us the Greek word(s) rendered as PERSONALITY in that scripture....

No wonder the seed your organization produces are lies and brainwashed.

Peacefullove:
U this mumu that ran away from the other Mark 5 thread. I just dey look you

Who is this millipede.....pls crawl back into the soakaway u came out from. You are irrelevant.

Peacefullove:
Same yesterday, today and forever is about personality. Simple truth . he died , hebrew said the years of that person never end . never means not even a moment. You guys should stop twisting what's not there

Explain how yesterday, today and forever = personality?

Explain n bring Ur ignorance to the fore..Ode!!!