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Emusan:
You can see how their twisting and lying mouths being exposed here....

They're ready to give scripture any meaning as long as it will suit their demonic doctrines, you can see that on this thread how they have been jumping and denying Greek words.

Wisdom is justified by her children!

Maximus69:
Accused, Convicted, Sentenced, Executed all on what neither you nor myself was there to witness the facts in another man's country.

Since you've rendered your conscience dead to the extent of denying what happened here in your own country that people saw here.

Sorry there's no need for further discussion Sir!

Even your Daddy GO never denied this last year!

A court of competent jurisdiction convicted your JW elder for sexual assault based on the evidence presented before it. Note that for that conviction to happen, the prosecution must have proven beyond reasonable doubt that your JW elder committed the crime. And so he is no more an accused but a confirmed rapist.

I hope u have learnt

Which one is wht people saw, did u see it?

Emusan:
You can see how their twisting and lying mouths being exposed here....

They're ready to give scripture any meaning as long as it will suit their demonic doctrines, you can see that on this thread how they have been jumping and denying Greek words.

Dnt mind them I gave dem a dose of their own medicine by asking them to provide the place in scripture that says angels are made in the image of God.

See how they started running around like headless chickens, I was just laughing ehn

Maximus69:
Mr beggar! Psalms 23:1; Isaiah 65:13-14

I have defeated u.i will defeat u over and over again. Do u c how I also lectured u in law.

Go to a bible believing church o so as to know the difference between an accused and a sentenced criminal

Maximus69:
Wisdom is justified by her children!

Maximum69 wants to cry..... doh!...kpele!!!

freshboi88:
I have defeated u.i will defeat u over and over again. Do u c how I also lectured u in law.

Go to a bible believing church o so as to know the difference between an accused and a sentenced criminal

Jesus was
Accused
Arrested
Charged
Arraigned
Convicted
Sentenced
Executed
By the first century Jewish high court (one of the most prominent and respected court back then)

Sorry Sir, this is not about what i wasn't there, it's about what i'm witnessing with my own eyes!

freshboi88:
Maximum69 wants to cry..... doh!...kpele!!!

Oh no!

LOVE, JOY and PEACE remember?

Maximus69:
Jesus was
Accused
Arrested
Charged
Arraigned
Convicted
Sentenced
Executed
By the first century Jewish high court (one of the most prominent and respected court back then)

Sorry Sir, this is not about what i wasn't there, it's about what i'm witnessing with my own eyes!

U pple can make stupid comparisons
So ur rapist elder is now Jesus abi. Guy go n take ur meds

freshboi88:
U pple can make stupid comparisons
So ur rapist elder is now Jesus abi. Guy go n take ur meds

Just because a law court convicted a suspect never mean he is guilty of the crime.

God is the greatest judge!

Maximus69:
Just because a law court convicted a suspect never mean he is guilty of the crime.

God is the greatest judge!

But when an incredible daily publishes an unsubstantiated report about RCCG. Tht one is true. Do u see Ur hypocrisy.

Meanwhile

1 John 5
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

Trinity stamped, signed and sealed.

freshboi88:
But when an incredible daily publishes an unsubstantiated report about RCCG. Tht one is true. Do u see Ur hypocrisy.

Meanwhile

1 John 5
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

Trinity stamped, signed and sealed.

Check other translations!

@Rozz oooo, come n c chumchin @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 @Janosky make Una begin dey xplain o

@Emusan c as God don catch Dr.


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ZECHARIAH 12:
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit a of grace and supplication. They will look on b me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Abeg who is speaking in this verse?

freshboi88:
@Rozz oooo, come n c chumchin @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 @Janosky make Una begin dey xplain o

@Emusan c as God don catch Dr.


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ZECHARIAH 12:
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit a of grace and supplication. They will look on b me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Abeg who is speaking in this verse?

Keep searching for texts to support your TRINITY but be rest assured that we know all the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses in the book.

So the practical application of each text we will teach you if you want to see how it's working out benefits amongst believers {1Thessalonians 2:13; Hebrew 4:12} but if you want to argue {Titus 3:9} we'll just make our presentation and leave you! Matthew 10:11-13

Maximus69:
Keep searching for texts to support your TRINITY but be rest assured that we know all the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses in the book.

So the practical application of each text we will teach you if you want to see how it's working out benefits amongst believers {1Thessalonians 2:13; Hebrew 4:12} but if you want to argue {Titus 3:9} we'll just make our presentation and leave you! Matthew 10:11-13

Yeah, ull leave when u hve no answer to the truth leering at u right in d face

freshboi88:
Yeah, ull leave when u hve no answer to the truth leering at u right in d face

Just quote where the word TRINITY is found in the book that's all!

Maximus69:
Just quote where the word TRINITY is found in the book that's all!

ZECHARIAH 12:
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit a of grace and supplication. They will look on b me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Abeg who is speaking in this verse?

Y dnt u make an attempt to answer this

Emusan:
Is man not CREATED in the IMAGE OF GOD that's the center of the point.

Is Christ NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

These are the questions you're still dodging.



But the core POINT is on the "IMAGE OF.." it seems you don't get it.

*Bearing the IMAGE of the dust makes you having human nature, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes you having the heavenly one NATURE, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*BUT BEARING the IMAGE OF God, doesn't mean HAVING THE NATURE OF GOD!

Speaking from all angles of his mouth.

Ole..



But the Devil himself wrote New World Translation.

And what is Born of the FLESH IS FLESH



The CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born of the flesh but ALL CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WERE BORN OF THE SPIRIT which means you don't understand what it means to be BORN of THE SPIRIT

Scripture always places FLESH and SPIRIT in contrast that's why Jesus said "it's the SPIRIT that quickeneth, the FLESH profiteth nothing" and many such verses in the scripture.

And I've also noticed that you didn't get the point of that Galatians 4, again what Gal 4 means is that:

ALL CHRISTIANS must be born of the spirit which is why we were classified under ISAAC whose mother WAS THE FREEWOMAN

So In Galatians 4 there are ONLY TWO GROUPS the whole people were placed.

1. The group are those who belong to the BONDWOMAN and are born by the FLESH

2. The second group are those who belong to the FREEWOMAN and are BORN by the SPIRIT.




Which verse?



Now you've shifted away from the IMAGE

But why Jesus was talking He said unto them, "Ye are from beneath (Earth), I am from above(Heaven): ye are of this world (earthly); I am NOT of this world"

How I wish you know how they picked Romans 8:16,17 as the criteria for 144,000 going to HEAVEN the reason those in that Group are to eat the BREAD and drink the WINE at the MEMORIAL GATHERING and everyone else not among the 144,000 REMAIN on earth and cannot eat the bread or drink the WINE Whereas a complete READING of Romans 8 had nothing to do with GOING to heaven or REMAINING on earth but based on minding the FLESH or SPIRIT.

Emusan:
NOTE: When next you want to dive into my post never discuss with me with the writing "XTIANS"
It's a miracle because DIvine Nature and Human Nature co-exist which if they don't then no miracle taken place.

If only you know the implication of the above, Then it means Mary Gave birth to GOD ?

Besides, you just jumped like kangaroo into something you never fully understand.

He claimed LIFE FORCE isn't an ACTUAL PERSON but just shit of INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSON and it's this same life force God sent into the womb of Mary.

When what God SENT is A PERSON...

Are two of you making any sense?



You are confused....

That aspect you both are discussing was a miracle no one understands . Its like trying to explain how Marys Eggs got fertilized without sperm

"Human didn't retain Divine Nature"
Jesus ONLY share the NATURE of human....

Man is lower than angels.

Man doesnt have divine nature in him.

Jesus must follow that format to be lower than angels or else He is above angels any time any day when. He came to earth.

The first man was from the earth but the last man is A QUICKNEN SPIRIT.
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There is no two ways to it . either Jesus is a Spirit person like God and other angels and cannot possess flesh in heaven or he is an human not a spirit.

[quote]That's why I said you're a confused being....

Isn't my point centered on Jesus posseses the same body He died with?

How could he when the text says clearly that He was sown a physical body and raises a Spiritual body. Spiritual isn't physical Mr. Check

But He called you a liar when He shows His body to His disciples and even told Thomas to touch.

Which is why you can borrow the same statement He made there "Behold my hands for a SPIRIT have no bones and FLESH as you SEE ME HAVE"

You can see that you're the liar here!

Dont angels appear like that in the past and even claim to be men ?
Judges 13 vs 11


Manoah got up and followed his wife. When he came to the man, he said, “Are you the man who talked to my wife?”

“I am,” he said.

A Spirit being claiming to be a man.

You're a liar Col 2:9 says "DWELL in BODILY"
You can provide your own translation of that verse here and let's see the liar!

That same word means " Divinity"

Define Divinity ? Quality/character of being divine.


The HOT consequence of ascribing it means God nature in human form is it makes Mary mother of God .

So think twice before u yarn anything here

You're frustrated and it's boldly written in your countenance....calm down!

Like I said earlier, you just jump like kangaroo to dive into what you didn't understand.

Go back to our previous post to see where the discussion started from.

Its obvious u have nothing to say here. He was right that image of heavenly one cannot be the same as image of God. One is said to be heavenly , the other is not.

Emusan:
This was my post which you ignored but started jumping up and down.

See twisting....

Now it's PERSONALITY....

Show us the Greek word(s) rendered as PERSONALITY in that scripture....

No wonder the seed your organization produces are lies and brainwashed.

If it doesnt mean personality, O boy define Never end . and tell me how Jesus dying fit the context of the word " Never end "

Never definition

at no time in the past or future; not ever.
" or not at all.


Oya over to you .

freshboi88:
U dnt have a point sorry. U made the claim not me, u r the one to prove.

So out of the pages of scripture, u mean to tell me that, not even a single verse proves that angels are made in the image of God.........

So how did u come bout it. You made it up.

And not even a single verse disprove it . Go and address those points on how Man who are created in the image of God would now be lower to angels that are in freshboi88 bias opinion are not in the image of God ??

Genesis says the one In Gods image is higher than everything else God made that is not in his image , Why are angels now higher ??

freshboi88:
@Rozz oooo, come n c chumchin @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 @Janosky make Una begin dey xplain o

@Emusan c as God don catch Dr.


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ZECHARIAH 12:
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit a of grace and supplication. They will look [b] on b me , the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.[/b]

Abeg who is speaking in this verse?

They will look on me , but they will mourn for Him.

Do u have sense ? Pierce me and mourn another person , can't your head tell you this one has been tampered with ?

freshboi88:
ZECHARIAH 12:
10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit a of grace and supplication. They will look on b me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Abeg who is speaking in this verse?

Y dnt u make an attempt to answer this

So you can't find the word TRINITY shey?

After all the argument there is no unity in the midst of Trinitarians, even in your own personal RCCG Daddy GO is afraid of his Co~Pastors, you later turned to asking of what JWs are doing for citizens as if we are the ones who voted in their so called rulers for them, i pointed to an article that shows how your church evacuated fellow members out of your camp referring to their fellow members as "destitutes".

And GBAM! You posted what a member of JW did outside the organization!

Haba you no get shame?

What's the correlation between what your church approved (evacuation of destitutes who are fellow members of your church that must have one time or the other pairs tithes in building that place) and what a single member of Jehovah's Witnesses organization committed (against the teachings of the group)?

Peacefullove:
They will look on me , but they will mourn for Him.
Do u have sense ? Pierce me and mourn another person , can't your head tell you this one has been tampered with ?

All that nah argument!

Just ask them to show us where TRINITY is found in the Bible that's all!

achorladey:
How I wish you know how they picked Romans 8:16,17 as the criteria for 144,000 going to HEAVEN the reason those in that Group are to eat the BREAD and drink the WINE at the MEMORIAL GATHERING and everyone else not among the 144,000 REMAIN on earth and cannot eat the bread or drink the WINE Whereas a complete READING of Romans 8 had nothing to do with GOING to heaven or REMAINING on earth but based on minding the FLESH or SPIRIT.

They are wrong shey?

Yet on another thread when someone asked a question about faith in God you entered without a second thought and directly quoted (not the Bible) but the publication of this same Organization!

Hmmmmmmmmmm surely they pick scriptures to back up their claims and someone is trying to use their teachings to explain Christianity out there!

Peacefullove:
They will look on me , but they will mourn for Him.

Do u have sense ? Pierce me and mourn another person , can't your head tell you this one has been tampered with ?

This guy nah cockroach. Where did u c but in the verse?

@Rozz shey u c how JW dey turn scripture upside down

@Peacefullove where is the but in the verse....if but no dey make lie kill u there....wht do u gain by twisting scripture

Maximus69:
All that nah argument!

Just ask them to show us where TRINITY is found in the Bible that's all!

Ode!!!!.... Ur own no rhyme....u wan use style way I use for Una God made angels in his image. Oga e no work at Al. If I were u, I'll be pondering on how Zechariah don open Una yansh

freshboi88:
Ode!!!!.... Ur own no rhyme....u wan use style way I use for Una God made angels in his image. Oga e no work at Al. If I were u, I'll be pondering on how Zechariah don open Una yansh

OK Zechariah mentioned "TRINITY" shey?

See screenshot of the ongoing arguments between two trinitarians over TRINITY, soon they will start insulting, abusing and even cursing each other over what never appeared in the scriptures at all!

Whereas Jehovah's Witnesses are saying Jesus is angel Michael.

Shey nah Jesus you no go find for Bible or Michael?

Maximus69:
OK Zechariah mentioned "TRINITY" shey?

See screenshot of the ongoing arguments between two trinitarians over TRINITY, soon they will start insulting, abusing and even cursing each other over what never appeared in the scriptures at all!

Whereas Jehovah's Witnesses are saying Jesus is angel Michael.

Shey nah Jesus you no go find for Bible or Michael?

So was it Angel Micheal that spoke in Zechariah when he said they will look upon me who they have pierced?

Answer this to cure Ur delusion

freshboi88:
So was it Angel Micheal that spoke in Zechariah when he said they will look upon me who they have pierced?

Answer this to cure Ur delusion

The name Michael and Jesus both appeared in the Bible several times, so if Jehovah's Witnesses organization now say both mean the same person, it's either you take it or leave it.

But arguing profusely, bitterly and angrily over "TRINITY" that was not found WRITTEN anywhere in the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses in a book is REAL DELUSION Sir!

Maximus69:
The name Michael and Jesus both appeared in the Bible several times, so if Jehovah's Witnesses organization now say both mean the same person, it's either you take it or leave it.

But arguing profusely, bitterly and angrily over what was not found WRITTEN anywhere in the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses in a book is REAL DELUSION Sir!

Let me ask u a question.

In whose name do u pray..in the name of Jehovah and the name of Jesus?

Maximus69:
The name Michael and Jesus both appeared in the Bible several times, so if Jehovah's Witnesses organization now say both mean the same person, it's either you take it or leave it.

But arguing profusely, bitterly and angrily over "TRINITY" that was not found WRITTEN anywhere in the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses in a book is REAL DELUSION Sir!

Hmm you need Jesus.

It's obvious you're frustrated and it's boldly written in your countenance....calm down!

So next time check your post well before submitting and safe me from copy and paste, if such happened again, I won't reply you.

Peacefullove:
If only you know the implication of the above, Then it means Mary Gave birth to GOD ?

If only if you know when the Divine Nature joined the Human Body

Which is the important of that Col 2:9

That aspect you both are discussing was a miracle no one understands . Its like trying to explain how Marys Eggs got fertilized without sperm

Shut up....you liar!

He claimed what God sent into the womb of Mary is LIFE FORCE and at the same time said THE LIFE FORCE isn't THE ACTUAL PERSON....so tell us what did the Father send?


Olodo...

Man is lower than angels.

Man doesnt have divine nature in him.

Jesus must follow that format to be lower than angels or else He is above angels any time any day when. He came to earth.

If Jesus must follow that format and only human, how come Jesus be able to TRANSFIGURE at the mount?

Don't boycott this question?

How could he when the text says clearly that He was sown a physical body and raises a Spiritual body. Spiritual isn't physical Mr. Check

So was this particular TEXT not for ALL THE DEAD?

This is where you shot yourself in the foot.

Which means ALL DEAD will be resurrected with a SPIRITUAL BODY!

Then Apostle Paul also confirmed this in Romans 6:5;

ASV: For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection;

AMP: For if we have become one with Him [permanently united] in the likeness of His death, we will also certainly be [one with Him and share fully] in the likeness of His resurrection.

BRG: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

CSB: For if we have been united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be in the likeness of his resurrection.

KJV: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Dont angels appear like that in the past and even claim to be men ?
Judges 13 vs 11
Manoah got up and followed his wife. When he came to the man, he said, “Are you the man who talked to my wife?”
“I am,” he said.
A Spirit being claiming to be a man.

Olodo.....Do the angel claim to have FLESH and BONES like Jesus said?

What did you expect the Angel to say, when it's what the woman told her husband that the husband asked the angel....

Your ignorance is sticking.

So if you agree that the Angel was FULLY MAN

Then you shot yourself in the foot again because after the burnt offering the same MAN went to heaven as the flame ascended. So your Man will enter heaven with FLESH AND BONES.

That same word means " Divinity"
Define Divinity ? Quality/character of being divine.
The HOT consequence of ascribing it means God nature in human form is it makes Mary mother of God .

DIVINE NATURE DWELL in BODILY....

Only if you know when the hypothetical natures joined together.

Its obvious u have nothing to say here. He was right that image of heavenly one cannot be the same as image of God. One is said to be heavenly , the other is not.

Then who said image of the heavenly one is the same as Image of God!

That was the reason I said you just jump like kangaroo into what you didn't know and begins to talk rubbish.