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freshboi88:
Just two questions

1. Who was pierced
2. How was Jesus conceived?

They are simple question, I dnt know y they have gat u running around like an headless chicken

1. The Father , but the son was mourn Goat

2. The person called holy spirit + a woman named Mary = Baby Jesus.

Peacefullove:
He don hang ,
Through Mary , wetin happen?

Question is did he ever die ?
How is that fitted in the context of years never end?

How I wan take hang...I smart pass u nah 100 times over

freshboi88:
How I wan take hang...I smart pass u nah 100 times over

Only fools praise themselves.

Peacefullove:
1. The Father , but the son was mourn Goat

2. The person called holy spirit + a woman named Mary = Baby Jesus.

1) Does the Father have a body that was pierced?

2) Did the Holy Spirit have sex with Mary( only through sex can procreation take place)

Peacefullove:
Only fools praise themselves.

I'm not praising myself, I'm stating the obvious

freshboi88:
1) Does the Father have a body that was pierced?

This is why your quote was questionable.
Thank you for refuting it yourself.

2) Did the Holy Spirit have sex with Mary( only through sex can procreation take place)

Is holy spirit not a " HE " according to you ? U know the rest

freshboi88:
I'm not praising myself, I'm stating the obvious

No u dont , no wonder u ran away from this thread below and perambulating even here

https://www.nairaland.com/3046728/matthew-5-29-whole-body

Peacefullove:
This is why your quote was questionable.
Thank you for refuting it yourself.



Is holy spirit not a " HE " according to you ? U know the rest

Hahahaha.....see this Didirin

Explain to us why in Zechariah 12 :10

And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Why does the speaker say they shall look upon me who they have pierced?

Does it mean that it is the Father speaking?

Peacefullove:
No u dont , no wonder u ran away from this thread below and perambulating even here

https://www.nairaland.com/3046728/matthew-5-29-whole-body

U want to distract this discussion....e no go work ooooo.....ansa the question....if the Father was speaking....who pierced him?

freshboi88:
Hahahaha.....see this Didirin

Explain to us why in Zechariah 12 :10

And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Why does the speaker say they shall look upon me who they have pierced?

Does it mean that it is the Father speaking?

Story. Did the Father have body which they pierce? Thank you for refuting it

Peacefullove:
Story. Did the Father have body which they pierce? Thank you for refuting it

U said it was the Father that was pierced....that was a question for u o.....see this mumu....nor be u say nah the Father them pierce

freshboi88:
U want to distract this discussion....e no go work ooooo.....ansa the question....if the Father was speaking....who pierced him?

nobody pierce him. That's why you are a chronic liar

U know ask how Jesus was conceived again ?

If e sure for you enter that thread. U will be roasted , the roasting u are receiving here small sef

Peacefullove:
nobody pierce him. That's why you are a chronic liar

U know ask how Jesus was conceived again ?

If e sure for you enter that thread. U will be roasted , the roasting u are receiving here small sef

Peacefullove wetin u dey talk sef, u r not making sense. Why am I even surprised, u don't have sense.

You say nobody pierced him, does that mean Zechariah 12:10 is a lie


Bout how Jesus was conceived, do u think we should discuss things that r above ur sense of reasoning

Maximus69:
Just as you do!

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Please tell me who is the us.

Peacefullove:
No u dont , no wonder u ran away from this thread below and perambulating even here

https://www.nairaland.com/3046728/matthew-5-29-whole-body

I have a sweet question for u o

Was Beth-Sarim, the Mansion
owned and operated by the
Watchtower Bible & Tract Society in
San Diego and used by Joe
Rutherford in the 1920’s built as a
residence for Enoch and other holy
men from the Bible when they were
expected to rise from the dead in
1925 by the Watch Tower?

freshboi88:
Nah scripture I quote o.........@Janosky say scripture nah fraud. ........hahahaha.

Shey Una c how I don defeat JW. Now to bury them .

@Janosky wetin u fit tell us about Beth Sarim?

Abi u tink say we no go know?....dem no teach u Beth Sarim for Ur indoctrination house?

@Rozz do u know about Beth Sarim

@CANTICLES @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 tell us about Beth Sarim

i once heard of it but didn't bother to know what's all about

Maximus69:
Janosky my brother, Myer is the funniest clown of them all!

He declared the Bible is full of contradictions and complicated, yet he wants to define the people accurately reflecting what is complicating!

Am I funny for stating the obvious? Do I amuse you because I'm at liberty to say what you don't have the effrontry to say because of your religious affiliation?

If the bible is not full of contradictions and inconsistencies why are we even having this discussions on this thread?
Why are there innumerable denominations and factions in the Christian fold when all claim to believe in the same God, Jesus Christ and the same bible.

No sir, if anyone is funny here, it should be you and other Christians who can't even exhibit the liberty the same bible has given you to acknowledge the discrepancies, contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible all because it is supposedly a sacred and holy book.
Ironically you don;t have a problem faulting the Torah and the Koran.

I rest my case.

Rozz:
i once heard of it but didn't bother to know what's all about

Let me tell u what it is o.cos they wouldn't.

Beth Sarim (Translated as House of the Princes" is a ten-bedroom mansion in San Diego, California, constructed in 1929 in anticipation of various resurrected Old Testament biblical patriarchs or prophets such as Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and Samuel.

It was maintained by the Watch Tower Society, the parent organization used by Jehovah's Witnesses, and was also used as a winter home and executive office for Watch Tower president Joseph Franklin Rutherford.

The house was sold to a private owner in 1948.

Hahahaha......one of their founding fathers built a house awaiting the resurrected bibilical prophets like Moses and co. They prophesized that the prophets would rise during their time .

Guess what, their head as at that time was the custodian of the mansion died still awaiting the resurrected prophets.

The most funny thing is in 1948 they sold the house

What do u call that if not Delusion

Peacefullove:
Dont project your feelings to me , this isn't the first time am dealing with your antics u know ?

Shameless liar! know wonder you're confused.

U wan run ?

OK but just let that your dull brain repeat it.

When did it Joined the Body ?

You can't escape it , Mary gave birth to GODS NATURE. Making her Mother of God!

Your opinion!

The point is Jesus is FULLY HUMAN which is what Mary gave birth to.

Not even you can explain what occurred or how he became a baby. I said that part is a miracle , Leave it as that. Its like trying to explain which sperm fertilize Marys Eggs

Idiot...

Tell us what did the Father send?

Your lying brother said it's LIFE FORCE and the same life force isn't the ACTUAL PERSON.

Don't boycott my question again.

And who da hell told you transfiguration was Real ?

Its just a vision.

It was real Ole....

Shifting goal post again...

Tell us how ordinary human being can transfigure.

Hello! I know spiritual is opposed to physical. So its either your knowledge of applying that text to everyone is so low . or Bible verses that mention God dwelling with physical humans is a Lie
Point remains Jesus can't be a Spirit and retain physical body.

Idiot...
The verse isn't about spiritual opposing physical.

The verse simply says:
KJV: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

It means the same resurrection Christ experience it's what ALL CHRISTIANS will experience.

So if Christ was raised as a spirit being according to you then that verse say ALL THE DEAD will be raised as a spirit being too.

An angel that appear as man have it . You forgot an angel fight with Jacob. Na soft flesh he use fight or bone ?

Dey use sense na. What happen in Jesus case is just as this angels.

Olodo....
Did the Angel talk about having flesh and bones?
I even said, since you agreed that the angel was a MAN THEN The Angel must have entered heaven with the same MAN NATURE because the angel went to heaven in their presence without changing.

Olodo imagine taking Jacob case as a physical fight...oma se oooo

Jesus case is so clear "Touch me for a SPIRIT have no flesh and bones as you SEE ME HAVE"

Neither did Jesus claim to be fully man either . The angel agree he was a man at that moment. Simple !!!

Jesus said "TOUCH me for a spirit have no flesh and bones AS YOU SEE ME HAVE" unless you tell us that Jesus lied to them that He has flesh and bones when He didn't.

When did it Join ?

So he was first born without it until he slept one day and pheeew it dissapear inside of him. Gist me ?

That Mary na Mother of God . na today

That's your fig of imagination!

So its not the same , Lollllzzzzz , why are you now equating it , So what's the image of the heavenly one?

I once said at my first reply to you that you just exposed your ignorance by jumping like a kangaroo to dive into what you didn't understand.

I won't tell you until you carry that your empty skull back our earlier conversation so that you'll stop asking stupid question here.

Talking in a nonsense . Face the matter

When it's obvious here that you're the very one who is talking nonsense.

freshboi88:
Let me tell u what it is o.cos they wouldn't.

Beth Sarim (Translated as House of the Princes" is a ten-bedroom mansion in San Diego, California, constructed in 1929 in anticipation of various resurrected Old Testament biblical patriarchs or prophets such as Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and Samuel.

It was maintained by the Watch Tower Society, the parent organization used by Jehovah's Witnesses, and was also used as a winter home and executive office for Watch Tower president Joseph Franklin Rutherford.

The house was sold to a private owner in 1948.

Hahahaha......one of their founding fathers built a house awaiting the resurrected bibilical prophets like Moses and co. They prophesized that the prophets would rise during their time .

Guess what, their head as at that time was the custodian of the mansion died still awaiting the resurrected prophets.

The most funny thing is in 1948 they sold the house

What do u call that if not Delusion

That's what a confused organization that choose to interpret scripture through philosophy of men will get!

Imagine buying house for old saints when Heb 11:16 says "instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them."

These old saints actually looking for a better country which is HEAVENLY and to make the matter more interesting it was God Himself who will PREPARE the PLACE not some sycophants buying property for them.

Peacefullove:
Jesus been the same yesterday, today and forever never means he never died. Accepted ?

Don't ask me stupid question

You didn't answer my question but throw question to me...idiot.

Do you accept? If No! Then tell us the GREEK word translated as PERSONALITY in that verse.

If he dies, tell me how even dying for one seconds fit into the context of years " Never end " at Heb 1:10-12

I'll tell you once you answer my question first...you're still perambulating!

freshboi88:
Let me tell u what it is o.cos they wouldn't.

Beth Sarim (Translated as House of the Princes" is a ten-bedroom mansion in San Diego, California, constructed in 1929 in anticipation of various resurrected Old Testament biblical patriarchs or prophets such as Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and Samuel.

It was maintained by the Watch Tower Society, the parent organization used by Jehovah's Witnesses, and was also used as a winter home and executive office for Watch Tower president Joseph Franklin Rutherford.

The house was sold to a private owner in 1948.

Hahahaha......one of their founding fathers built a house awaiting the resurrected bibilical prophets like Moses and co. They prophesized that the prophets would rise during their time .

Guess what, their head as at that time was the custodian of the mansion died still awaiting the resurrected prophets.

The most funny thing is in 1948 they sold the house

What do u call that if not Delusion

lol hmmm

Faithful4real:
Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Please tell me who is the us.

We all need Jesus!

Emusan:
Don't ask me stupid question

You didn't answer my question but throw question to me...idiot.

Do you accept? If No! Then tell us the GREEK word translated as PERSONALITY in that verse.



I'll tell you once you answer my question first...you're still perambulating!

That question dey fear u
Kindly show me where I said there is a Greek word translated personality in the verse ?

Myer:
(1)Am I funny for stating the obvious? Do I amuse you because I'm at liberty to say what you don't have the effrontry to say because of your religious affiliation?

(2)If the bible is not full of contradictions and inconsistencies why are we even having this discussions on this thread?
Why are there innumerable denominations and factions in the Christian fold when all claim to believe in the same God, Jesus Christ and the same bible.

No sir, if anyone is funny here, it should be you and other Christians who can't even exhibit the liberty the same bible has given you to acknowledge the discrepancies, contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible all because it is supposedly a sacred and holy book.
Ironically you don;t have a problem faulting the Torah and the Koran.

I rest my case.

Question and Answer section!

(1) You are a confirmed CLOWN for saying a book is complicated yet at the same time picking those who don't understand what is complicated claiming some are going on well with the complications!

(2) This discussion is based on the so called complicated book but your friend whom you said got the understanding of the complicated book is pointing accusing finger at fellow admirers of a complicated book!

But for your information Sir there are over 8.7 million people from different race on this planet who have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers due to the study of this same complicated book, and the other book that you claimed is NOT complicated have failed to produce something of that nature!

Emusan:
Your opinion!

The point is Jesus is FULLY HUMAN which is what Mary gave birth to.

Then God nature dwell in that baby
God dwell in Marys womb , Mary is the Mother of God !!!

Idiot...

Tell us what did the Father send?

Your lying brother said it's LIFE FORCE and the same life force isn't the ACTUAL PERSON.

Don't boycott my question again.

Tell me what ferterlized Marys egg... Sperm ?

You can't evade this with miracle and be asking useless questions.

It was real Ole....

Shifting goal post again...

Tell us how ordinary human being can transfigure.

U no just wise

Transfiguration is a vision.


And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them, “Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead. -Mat 17 vs 9

Idiot...
The verse isn't about spiritual opposing physical.

The verse simply says:
KJV: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

It means the same resurrection Christ experience it's what ALL CHRISTIANS will experience.

So if Christ was raised as a spirit being according to you then that verse say ALL THE DEAD will be raised as a spirit being too.

Even the ungodly will be raised , So the ungodly are also Christians that have been planted in the likeness of His death ?

The verse is not applying to all , and to those it applied It mean raises as Spirit being, Spiritual isn't physical.

Olodo....
Did the Angel talk about having flesh and bones?
I even said, since you agreed that the angel was a MAN THEN The Angel must have entered heaven with the same MAN NATURE because the angel went to heaven in their presence without changing.

The angel just appeared as man, and CLAIM TO BE MAN! Though in reality he is a spirit. Apply same to Jesus

Olodo imagine taking Jacob case as a physical fight...oma se oooo

Oh its vision fight yet Jacobs was wounded ? The angel appeared as man and fight him phsysically , didn't he have flesh and bones ? Smh

Calculate your lies before u blow it.

Jesus case is so clear "Touch me for a SPIRIT have no flesh and bones as you SEE ME HAVE"

For the moment , just as an angel claim to be human for the moment.

Jesus said "TOUCH me for a spirit have no flesh and bones AS YOU SEE ME HAVE" unless you tell us that Jesus lied to them that He has flesh and bones when He didn't.

Did the Angel lied that he was a man ? Your logic is as dead as dead sea

That's your fig of imagination!

Guy man, when did the God nature enter na if Mary didn't born it ? ? Confused bunch

I once said at my first reply to you that you just exposed your ignorance by jumping like a kangaroo to dive into what you didn't understand.

I won't tell you until you carry that your empty skull back our earlier conversation so that you'll stop asking stupid question here.



When it's obvious here that you're the very one who is talking nonsense.

So you accept image of the heavenly one is not same as image of God ? Finish na . 2Pet 1:4 then refer to this image when it says Divine nature.

Emusan:
That's what a confused organization that choose to interpret scripture through philosophy of men will get!

Imagine buying house for old saints when Heb 11:16 says "instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them."

These old saints actually looking for a better country which is HEAVENLY and to make the matter more interesting it was God Himself who will PREPARE the PLACE not some sycophants buying property for them.

This is serious and looooooool

Maximus69:
Question and Answer section!

(1) You are a confirmed CLOWN for saying a book is complicated yet at the same time picking those who don't understand what is complicated claiming some are going on well with the complications!

(2) This discussion is based on the so called complicated book but your friend whom you said got the understanding of the complicated book is pointing accusing finger at fellow admirers of a complicated book!

But for your information Sir there are over 8.7 million people from different race on this planet who have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers due to the study of this same complicated book, and the other book that you claimed is NOT complicated have failed to produce something of that nature!

Like i said early, you either have a low IQ or a compulsive lying disorder.
Never have I said the bible is complicated.
It is quite an easy book to understand, once you are able to devote your time to study it.

On the contrary, I have continuously emphasised on it's inconsistensies and contradictions which notable bible scholars have also affirmed.

You need to be more "Christian" in the fruits you're bearing becausei don't recall lying being a fruit of the spirit. But then again maybe lying is a fruit in JW.

freshboi88:
Peacefullove wetin u dey talk sef, u r not making sense. Why am I even surprised, u don't have sense.


You say nobody pierced him, does that mean Zechariah 12:10 is a lie


Bout how Jesus was conceived, do u think we should discuss things that r above ur sense of reasoning

U are not smart , its that stupid translation that u quote that is a lie.

I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they stabbed to death, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their first-born son. Zec 12:10 Good news translation.


U quote nonsense that cant u defend u are now crying

Myer:
Like i said early, you either have a low IQ or a compulsive lying disorder.
Never have I said the bible is complicated.
It is quite an easy book to understand, once you are able to devote your time to study it.

On the contrary, I have continuously emphasised on it's inconsistensies and contradictions which notable bible scholars have also affirmed.

You need to be more "Christian" in the fruits you're bearing becausei don't recall lying being a fruit of the spirit. But then again maybe lying is a fruit in JW.

At the end , its all mouth . visit this thread and let me see how smart you are .

https://www.nairaland.com/3046728/matthew-5-29-whole-body

Myer:
Like i said early, you either have a low IQ or a compulsive lying disorder.
Never have I said the bible is complicated.
It is quite an easy book to understand, once you are able to devote your time to study it.

On the contrary, I have continuously emphasised on it's inconsistensies and contradictions which notable bible scholars have also affirmed.

You need to be more "Christian" in the fruits you're bearing becausei don't recall lying being a fruit of the spirit. But then again maybe lying is a fruit in JW.

Mr Myer~

i never said the Bible is complicated.........


Mr Myer~

i have continued to emphasize on (Bible's) inconsistencies and contradictions

Please can someone help me out here?

Maximus69:
Mr Myer~

i never said the Bible is complicated.........


Mr Myer~

i have continued to emphasize on (Bible's) inconsistencies and contradictions

Please can someone help me out here?

NO! That's not true Maximus!

Are you saying somebody actually typed that?

This is getting more interesting!