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Emusan:
So how did you come about PERSONALITY from that verse?

It means you just injected your bias view into it.

Then if there's no GREEK WORD rendered PERSONALITY, now back to my first question.

How can someone who is The same yesterday, today, and forever died?

Revelation 1:18 ' I BECAME DEAD '

Should I bold the word " Dead " ?

Emusan:
Yet The child is not called the Son of Mary.

Your brain is paining you

I can see you've stylishly boycotted my question but I won't allow that!

What was sent by the Father?
DIVINE NATURE
LIFE FORCE



You're the very one who need to answer that question.

For the last time, the miracle there is that HYPOSTATIC UNION occurred which isn't something human understanding can grab.

So the DIVINE NATURE DWELLS IN BODILY



You just keep exposing your ignorance.....

So it means they didn't experience it live bah
Your mumu never do

The Greek word translated as vision is "Horama" which strong described as:
something gazed at, i.e a spectacle (especially supernatural): - sight, vision

From the narration of that event, one can see that the disciples were not described to be in a state of rest.

So to my question: How can ORDINARY HUMAN BEING transfigure if there's no Divine Nature in Him?



Do the ungodly died in Christ?

As usual limiting the verse to specific people when the verse is self explanatory on its own.

LIAR.... "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

The question is, are ALL CHRISTIANS not died in Christ? the verse clearly says as WE ALL DIED in Christ WE WILL ALL also be in LIKENESS OF HIS RESURRECTION.

Ole...



If not because your brain is paining you, the writer USED the Angel of God but THE WOMAN saw MAN APPEARANCE and assumed to be a man.

Even verse 16 said ".....and Manoah KNEW NOT that he was an angel of the Lord"

Even after the burnt offering both the woman and the husband perspective change as they FELL ON THEIR FACES to the ground.

First the last time, if the angel is a man, DID HE GO TO HEAVEN WITH HIS HUMAN NATURE?



While you calculate your ignorance!



He didn't claimed Ole...

The angel only answered the man's question, were you THE MAN who spoke with my wife? Since the angel didn't reveal who he was to them.



Just as your logic was perverting the scripture...

The Angel answered the man's question.

Jesus challenged His own followers by saying "Spirit doesn't have Flesh and bones as YOU SEE ME HAVE"

Jesus confirmed His own REAL HUMAN NATURE



Mary gave birth to the HUMAN NATURE OF CHRIST.



Still spewing thrash....

This post give me Joy Shortly .

Emusan:
Yet The child is not called the Son of Mary.

Your brain is paining you

Mark 6:3 says ? Jesus son of Mary

Guy, Mary gave birth to GOD from his womb .

I can see you've stylishly boycotted my question but I won't allow that!

What was sent by the Father?
DIVINE NATURE
LIFE FORCE

You're the very one who need to answer that question.

For the last time, the miracle there is that HYPOSTATIC UNION occurred which isn't something human understanding can grab.

Crazy man, So fertilizing the egg is not miracle , na sperm fertilize am ?

So the DIVINE NATURE DWELLS IN BODILY

In Marys womb

Mary is the Mother of God.

You just keep exposing your ignorance.....

So it means they didn't experience it live bah
Your mumu never do

The Greek word translated as vision is "Horama" which strong described as:
something gazed at, i.e a spectacle (especially supernatural): - sight, vision

From the narration of that event, one can see that the disciples were not described to be in a state of rest.

So to my question: How can ORDINARY HUMAN BEING transfigure if there's no Divine Nature in Him?

The idiot is even proving Greek , Guy u dont know anything .

Act 12:9

' And he went out and followed him. He did not know that what was being done by the angel was real, BUT THOUGHT he was seeing a vision [horama] '

Horama is not reality .

So that your question. Just keep shut. So u are so silly to find evidence inside a vision . Ah e get as e be guy

Why should it be a vision if he had the divine nature for real ?? Answer o

Do the ungodly died in Christ?

As usual limiting the verse to specific people when the verse is self explanatory on its own.

LIAR.... "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

The question is, are ALL CHRISTIANS not died in Christ? the verse clearly says as WE ALL DIED in Christ WE WILL ALL also be in LIKENESS OF HIS RESURRECTION.

Ole...

Act 24:15 ressurection of godly and UNGODLY.

So are this ones dead in Christ ?

U no just have sense. Apply it to them too na since its all the dead . mumu

If not because your brain is paining you, the writer USED the Angel of God but THE WOMAN saw MAN APPEARANCE and assumed to be a man.

Even verse 16 said ".....and Manoah KNEW NOT that he was an angel of the Lord"

Even after the burnt offering both the woman and the husband perspective change as they FELL ON THEIR FACES to the ground.

First the last time, if the angel is a man, DID HE GO TO HEAVEN WITH HIS HUMAN NATURE?



While you calculate your ignorance!



He didn't claimed Ole...

The angel only answered the man's question, were you THE MAN who spoke with my wife? Since the angel didn't reveal who he was to them.

But the angel is not lying ba ? That's what I need

Jesus too wasn't lying, though spirit but can claim to be flesh. Like that Angel did

Just as your logic was perverting the scripture...

The Angel answered the man's question.

Jesus challenged His own followers by saying "Spirit doesn't have Flesh and bones as YOU SEE ME HAVE"

Jesus confirmed His own REAL HUMAN NATURE

And the angel is telling the truth , Yes ?

This thing no hard na

Mary gave birth to the HUMAN NATURE OF CHRIST.



Still spewing thrash....

No , God nature as well or didn't the God nature in his body passed through her vagina too ??

Mary is the mother of God. Just agree.


Its nice , keep it coming

Maximus69:
He has defeated nah!

By jumping from one topic to another and begging Jehovah's Witnesses (the best and zealous evangelizers he could find) to join him in preaching his TRINITY that they all concluded is a mystery (complicated)!

Guy , u funny die .

Peacefullove:
Guy , u funny die .

Don't mind the idiots!

The last time i asked them to define TRINITY.

Sanpangelete o! Come see different opinions and contradicting teachings all in the name of the same TRINITY.

By the end of the day, they concluded that it is a MYSTERY but i (as a Muslim back then) should believe it and the holy ghost will give me yet another interpretation that i will hold (to preach my own TRINITY) which may not even coincide with any of their own!

Please check the ongoing conversation between the two Trinitarians below!

Peacefullove:
Mark 6:3 says ? Jesus son of Mary

Guy, Mary gave birth to GOD from his womb .



Crazy man, So fertilizing the egg is not miracle , na sperm fertilize am ?



In Marys womb

Mary is the Mother of God.



The idiot is even proving Greek , Guy u dont know anything .

Act 12:9

' And he went out and followed him. He did not know that what was being done by the angel was real, BUT THOUGHT he was seeing a vision [horama] '

Horama is not reality .

So that your question. Just keep shut. So u are so silly to find evidence inside a vision . Ah e get as e be guy

Why should it be a vision if he had the divine nature for real ?? Answer o



Act 24:15 ressurection of godly and UNGODLY.

So are this ones dead in Christ ?

U no just have sense. Apply it to them too na since its all the dead . mumu



But the angel is not lying ba ? That's what I need

Jesus too wasn't lying, though spirit but can claim to be flesh. Like that Angel did



And the angel is telling the truth , Yes ?

This thing no hard na



No , God nature as well or didn't the God nature in his body passed through her vagina too ??

Mary is the mother of God. Just agree.


Its nice , keep it coming

Why are u running from Beth Sarim issue nah?

Tell us what Beth Sarim is

Maximus69:
Don't mind the idiots!

The last time i asked them to define TRINITY.

Sanpangelete o! Come see different opinions and contradicting teachings all in the name of the same TRINITY.

By the end of the day, they concluded that it is a MYSTERY but i (as a Muslim back then) should believe it and the holy ghost will give me yet another interpretation that i will hold (to preach my own TRINITY) which may not even coincide with any of their own!

Please check the ongoing conversation between the two Trinitarians below!

Beth Sarim!!!!.....This name gives u high BP abi. Y u dey do like say u no see am

Emusan:
See the way this deluded and ignorant somebody boycotted my post!

So if Divine nature = Divine Quality

Now it's divine nature = divine quality....this idiot is confused!

What is the nonsense that you people have been shouting since that those resurrected in heaven will have the DIVINE NATURE that Jesus Christ has?

Keep changing mouth....I'm here for you!

MUMU Emusan,
Greek Theiotēs= Divinity=divine quality= divine nature.
Divinity = a god .NWT,John 1:1 very AUTHENTIC.

Emusan Mumu..

freshboi88:
Nah scripture I quote o.........@Janosky say scripture nah fraud. ........hahahaha.

Shey Una c how I don defeat JW. Now to bury them .

@Janosky wetin u fit tell us about Beth Sarim?

Abi u tink say we no go know?....dem no teach u Beth Sarim for Ur indoctrination house?

@Rozz do u know about Beth Sarim

@CANTICLES @Maximus69 @Barristter07 @Jozzy4 tell us about Beth Sarim

Cry me a river till the sun is no more.

Johanine comma is a FRAUD inserted into the KJV and every Translation produced from the textus receptus manuscript.
Freshboi kpele

freshboi88:
Beth Sarim!!!!.....This name gives u high BP abi. Y u dey do like say u no see am

By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down and where we weep, when we remember Zion Psalms 137:1

You and all your confused TRINITARIAN Churchgoers and Nonechurchgoers are nothing compared to Babylonians taunting God's people over their pure worship, but helloooooooo Jehovah's Witnesses will always have one mind when it comes to our spiritual heritage!

It's you who needs to have a rethink over the countless conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings of your TRINITY God!

No matter what you think, say or do Jesus' prayer that God's people should be made one big and happy family throughout the earth been heard and granted from above! John 17:20-23

Jehovah's name has been sanctified and vindicated {Matthew 6:9} your TRINITY has been exposed as a failure as it can't unite you people, unlike God's people who love and cherish themselves everywhere we go! John 13:34-35

Maximus69:
By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down and where we weep, when we remember Zion Psalms 137:1

You and all your confused TRINITARIAN Churchgoers and Nonechurchgoers are nothing compared to Babylonians taunting God's people over their pure worship, but helloooooooo Jehovah's Witnesses will always have one mind when it comes to our spiritual heritage!

It's you who needs to have a rethink over the countless conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings of your TRINITY God!

No matter what you think, say or do Jesus' prayer that God's people should be made one big and happy family throughout the earth been heard and granted from above! John 17:20-23

Jehovah's name has been sanctified and vindicated {Matthew 6:9} your TRINITY has been exposed as a failure as it can't unite you people, unlike God's people who love and cherish themselves everywhere we go! John 13:34-35

By paradise u mean Beth Sarim right?

Janosky:
Cry me a river till the sun is no more.

Johanine comma is a FRAUD inserted into the KJV and every Translation produced from the textus receptus manuscript.
Freshboi kpele

Y r u refusing to talk about Beth Sarim....the only people who are frauds are those who refuse to talk about Beth Sarim

freshboi88:
By paradise u mean Beth Sarim right?

Your questions proved you have nothing to offer when it comes to spiritual heritage!

So instead of concentrating on stories like

~What Cain used to kill Abel
~Where Noah's ark rested
~The side Jacob slept to dream of angel
~Path Israelites took through the red sea
~The songs Israelites sang to God
~Furnitures Jesus made as a carpenter
~The type of sandals he wore

Faithful people concentrate on the good works of FAITH to ascertain where they ought to render sacred services so as to be acceptable to God and Jesus!

Jehovah's Witnesses have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as Jesus fervently prayed for! John 17:20-23

So the mark of true Christianity is obvious before all those who love to have FAITH! John 13:34-35

Maximus69:
Your questions proved you have nothing to offer when it comes to spiritual heritage!

So instead of concentrating on stories like

~What Cain used to kill Abel
~Where Noah's ark rested
~The side Jacob slept to dream of angel
~Path Israelites took through the red sea
~The songs Israelites sang to God
~Furnitures Jesus made as a carpenter
~The type of sandals he wore

Faithful people concentrate on the good works of FAITH to ascertain where they ought to render sacred services so as to be acceptable to God and Jesus!

Jehovah's Witnesses have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as Jesus fervently prayed for! John 17:20-23

So the mark of true Christianity is obvious before all those who love to have FAITH! John 13:34-35

Guy Beth Sarim....until u talk about Beth Sarim u r a COWARD

freshboi88:
Guy Beth Sarim....until u talk about Beth Sarim u r a COWARD

Beth Sarim,your whatever, dey give you sleepless nights?

Freshboi wetin be Beth Sarim?
Abi, You done run komot from Olebwoy business centres go join Judaism ?
Oga talk now make we know the next one you go join....

Janosky:
Beth Sarim,your whatever, dey give you sleepless nights?

Freshboi wetin be Beth Sarim?
Abi, You done run komot from Olebwoy business centres go join Judaism ?
Oga talk now make we know the next one you go join....

@Janosky nor know Beth Sarim ooooo...abi u dey lie say u nor know am.

Beth Sarim nah d 10 bedroom mansion way Una build for old testament prophets awaiting their resurrection. D house dey 4 USA.

Nah the house Rutherford stay dey wait for Moses n Elijah until e come for as e no c ny Elijah.

Den watch tower come decide to sell the house to private people as Moses no wake up as dem predict.

I c dem no tell u that one.....

Shey u c as delusion dey worry Una organisation

Emusan:
As usual they'll deny it...that's what you get when you inject personal interpretations into the scripture.

Take for instance, the Heb 1:10-12 they were ascribing to Jehovah.

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament.

Then they say:



Look at the above statement, then compare it to fraud they did in Hebrew 1:10

The Psalm 102 that the Hebrew writer cited was translated in verse 1 asap "O Jehovah..." so which means they understand that verse is referring to Jehovah.

Then when they will translate Heb 1:10 it was "And: “At the beginning, O Lord,..."

Why not "And: At the Beginning Oh Jehovah?"

The reason they didn't put Jehovah in that Heb 1 is because the people behind their translation know that Heb 1:10 is a reference to the Son and by doing so the text will make Jesus to be Jehovah.

You can see their double standard.

Thou it's only their online e-warrior that is changing the meaning of that Hebrew 1:10 because everybody knows it was in reference to Jesus.

DOUBLE STANDARDS very interesting code mixing JEHOVAH and JESUS

Look at the BELOW.......Imitate their Faith book.....page 107 footnote to paragraph 22

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102013258

THE SOURCE of this “CALM, LOW VOICE” may have been the SAME Spirit who was used to deliver “JEHOVAH’S WORD” mentioned at 1 Kings 19:9. In verse 15, THIS SPIRIT is referred to simply as “JEHOVAH.” We might be reminded of the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel in the WILDERNESS and of whom God said: “My NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:21) We cannot be dogmatic on this point, of course, but it is worth noting that in his prehuman existence, Jesus served as “the Word,” the special Spokesman to Jehovah’s servants.​—John 1:1.

Question 1. Who is the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel?

2. God sent which angel ahead of Israel when bringing them out of Egypt? (Ex. 23:20, 21)

Answer 1. It is reasonable to believe that the angel who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him’ was God’s firstborn Son, who later became Jesus.​—9/15, page 21.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010929#h=7:0-9:0

Answer 2. Spiritual Prince of Israel

2, 3. What ACTIVE role did GOD’S SON play in Israel?

2 Centuries before the founding of the Christian congregation, JEHOVAH had an ANGELIC LEADER over his people Israel. After bringing out of Egypt, Jehovah told them: “Here I am sending an ANGEL AHEAD of you to keep you on the ROAD and to bring you into the place that I have PREPARED. Watch yourself because of him and obey his voice. Do not behave rebelliously against him, for he will not pardon your transgression; because MY NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:20, 21) It is reasonable to believe that this ANGEL, who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him,’ was GOD’S FIRSTBORN SON.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010685#h=4:0-6:0

So in essence the ANGEL here is JESUS CHRIST THIS SAME SPIRIT that CONVEYED Jehovah's message in 1 Kings 19:9 that is SIMPLY REFERRED to as JEHOVAH In 1 Kings 19:15.

Note the CAVEAT in the footnote......WE cannot be DOGMATIC on this POINT in essence they ARE NOT TOTALLY SURE of whatever the above in the FOOTNOTE conveys but their online E- warriors want to be DOGMATIC on what their masters don't dare to.

freshboi88:
Guy Beth Sarim....until u talk about Beth Sarim u r a COWARD

Keep asking, keep seeking and keep knocking! Matthew 7:7

For the last time! If you boycott or dodge any of my questions, I'm done with you!

Because using that tactics won't work.

Peacefullove:
Mark 6:3 says ? Jesus son of Mary

Guy, Mary gave birth to GOD from his womb.

No wonder there's no difference between you and the PEOPLE who called Jesus son of Mary because two of you are very carnal.

Crazy man, So fertilizing the egg is not miracle , na sperm fertilize am?

Idiot you're still dodging my question.

What did the Father send?

In Marys womb

Mary is the Mother of God.

Says deluded person!

The idiot is even proving Greek , Guy u dont know anything .

Act 12:9

' And he went out and followed him. He did not know that what was being done by the angel was real, BUT THOUGHT he was seeing a vision [horama] '

Horama is not reality

Liar like your father the Devil!

Horama is what is what the writer of Acts used for Moses in the experience of the "Burning Bush"

"When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to get a closer look, he heard the Lord say:" Acts 7:31

The word translated as 'SIGHT' was HORAMA

So that your question. Just keep shut. So u are so silly to find evidence inside a vision . Ah e get as e be guy

Why should it be a vision if he had the divine nature for real ?? Answer o

The description of that event pointed to reality.

If it's to be a vision, God could have allowed them to experience it anywhere since nobody will know about it apart from them but for Jesus to PERSONALLY TOOK three of His disciples to a SECRET PLACE and TRANSFIGURE in their presence speaks volume.

So back to my question. How can ordinary human being TRANSFIGURE?

Act 24:15 ressurection of godly and UNGODLY.

So are this ones dead in Christ ?

U no just have sense. Apply it to them too na since its all the dead . mumu

For the last time because I know your dull brain can never assimilate anything and it's so obvious how you intentionally dodged my question just to divert attention because you know it will expose you and your father the Devil.

This was my question "are ALL CHRISTIANS not died in Christ?

The verse says If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection" NWT

Well I know people like you will not die with Christ!

But the angel is not lying ba ? That's what I need

Jesus too wasn't lying, though spirit but can claim to be flesh. Like that Angel did

Manoah: Are you the man my wife said talked to her
Angel of the Lord: Yes! Why? because the figure the woman saw was the figure of a man, no further question to actualise the NATURE.

Jesus disciples were so AFRAID when THEY SAW a FIGURE of a MAN and thought it to be GHOST but for Jesus to proof it to them, Jesus challenged them to TOUCH HIM "For a SPIRIT has no FLESH and BONES as you see ME HAVE"

The verse is very clear but only deluded JWs will read another meaning into it.

And the angel is telling the truth , Yes ?

This thing no hard na

If the Angel is actually MAN, tell us how he went STRAIGHT to heaven WITH THE SAME HUMAN BODY

No , God nature as well or didn't the God nature in his body passed through her vagina too??

Mary is the mother of God. Just agree.


Its nice , keep it coming

Says the deluded JWs.

Peacefullove:
Revelation 1:18 ' I BECAME DEAD '

Should I bold the word " Dead " ?

Ole....

Even the verse you cherry pick proves you to be a liar!

"....And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, and the living one,..." 17-18 NWT

Jesus Himself is the FOUNTAIN OF LIFE, it's only in the deluded JWs imagination that a LIFE Himself can died.

Emusan:
As usual they'll deny it...that's what you get when you inject personal interpretations into the scripture.

Take for instance, the Heb 1:10-12 they were ascribing to Jehovah.

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament.

Then they say:



Look at the above statement, then compare it to fraud they did in Hebrew 1:10

The Psalm 102 that the Hebrew writer cited was translated in verse 1 asap "O Jehovah..." so which means they understand that verse is referring to Jehovah.

Then when they will translate Heb 1:10 it was "And: “At the beginning, O Lord,..."

Why not "And: At the Beginning Oh Jehovah?"

The reason they didn't put Jehovah in that Heb 1 is because the people behind their translation know that Heb 1:10 is a reference to the Son and by doing so the text will make Jesus to be Jehovah.

You can see their double standard.

Thou it's only their online e-warrior that is changing the meaning of that Hebrew 1:10 because everybody knows it was in reference to Jesus.

Another example concerning.......

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament is the BELOW........

Look at 1 Peter 2:3 Notice that the reference source

The Hebrew Scripture quotation is found at Psalm 34:8: Taste and see that JEHOVAH is GOOD, O YOU people; Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.

Therefore, according to the stated translation policy of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION,

1 Peter 2:3 should read: . . . that through [the word] YOU may grow to salvation, provided YOU have TASTED that JEHOVAH is KIND. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God.

The "LIVING STONE…REJECTED…by MEN" in this passage is most certainly JESUS.


NWT......1 Peter 2:3,4 provided you have tasted that the Lord is KIND. 4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God

achorladey:
Another example concerning.......

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament is the BELOW........

Look at 1 Peter 2:3 Notice that the reference source

The Hebrew Scripture quotation is found at Psalm 34:8: Taste and see that JEHOVAH is GOOD, O YOU people; Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.

Therefore, according to the stated translation policy of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION,

1 Peter 2:3 should read: . . . that through [the word] YOU may grow to salvation, provided YOU have TASTED that JEHOVAH is KIND. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God.

The "LIVING STONE…REJECTED…by MEN" in this passage is most certainly JESUS.


NWT......1 Peter 2:3,4 provided you have tasted that the LORD is KIND. 4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God

That's why no New Testament scholar takes their bias translation serious because their NWT was internationally design to support their evil doctrines.

Emusan:
That's why no New Testament scholar takes their bias translation serious because their NWT was internationally design to support their evil doctrines.

LIENUS Musing....

Emusan no dey even dey shame to blow this LIE for public forum, NWT is a Bible Translation of great scholarly repute...
The evidence is solid indeed.
However, there will always be critics.

Show PROOF where the new testament Scholars takes your 1 John 5:7 KJV FRAUD and every fraud in your KJV serious

achorladey:
Another example concerning.......

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament is the BELOW........

Look at 1 Peter 2:3 Notice that the reference source

The Hebrew Scripture quotation is found at Psalm 34:8: Taste and see that JEHOVAH is GOOD, O YOU people; Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.

Therefore, according to the stated translation policy of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION,

1 Peter 2:3 should read: . . . that through [the word] YOU may grow to salvation, provided YOU have TASTED that JEHOVAH is KIND. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God.

The "LIVING STONE…REJECTED…by MEN" in this passage is most certainly JESUS.


NWT......1 Peter 2:3,4 provided you have tasted that the LORD is KIND. 4 As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but chosen, precious to God

Jehovah Na living stone rejected by men ?
Mr Writer, Go and write Jehovah put for 1 Pet2:3 nau....

Janosky:
Jehovah Na living stone rejected by men ?
Mr Writer, Go and write Jehovah put for 1 Pet2:3 nau....

At least you have SEEN the mirror and you equally see the IMAGE it reflected back to YOU. It is visible in the response before this one AS well.

Emusan:
As usual they'll deny it...that's what you get when you inject personal interpretations into the scripture.

Take for instance, the Heb 1:10-12 they were ascribing to Jehovah.

But in their support for the insertion of the Jehovah in the New Testament one of their main point is that where the New Testament writers quoted from the Old Testament.

Then they say:



Look at the above statement, then compare it to fraud they did in Hebrew 1:10

The Psalm 102 that the Hebrew writer cited was translated in verse 1 asap "O Jehovah..." so which means they understand that verse is referring to Jehovah.

Then when they will translate Heb 1:10 it was "And: “At the beginning, O Lord,..."

Why not "And: At the Beginning Oh Jehovah?"

The reason they didn't put Jehovah in that Heb 1 is because the people behind their translation know that Heb 1:10 is a reference to the Son and by doing so the text will make Jesus to be Jehovah.

You can see their double standard.

Thou it's only their online e-warrior that is changing the meaning of that Hebrew 1:10 because everybody knows it was in reference to Jesus.

So called double standard exist only in the figment of Emusan imagination.

1)
Hebrews 1:1-6, 9 SHUT DOWN any attempt to ascribe verse 10-12 to Jesus Christ.
Imperfect Humans copied the manuscripts from which the Bibles were translated as we have it today. We can't rule out errors of copyists.

2)
The Masoretic Text of Psalms 102:25 has no YHWH, or anything else remotely connected to Jesus.

3)
More so ,other parts of the Scriptures,even Jesus Christ himself DOESN'T lend credence to Hebrew 1:10 (Compare Matt 11:25. Acts17:24. Deut 10:14,21).

4).
It is possible that the same mischievous way Hebrew 1:8 was twisted (but DISPROVED In the Masoretic Text) , probably birthed Hebrew 1:10 in similar fashion.

Janosky:
Jehovah Na living stone rejected by men ?
Mr Writer, Go and write Jehovah put for 1 Pet2:3 nau....

I spent four hours today (1pm~5pm) with my Bible students!

One 67 years old man,

One middle age married man

Three Children in the same family and their friends also came to join them, i asked of their mother (based on GB's directives when dealing with minors) she came kneeling before me as if one of their Pastors.
Fully embarrassed i had to readjust her thinking regarding how to treat true men of God!

So i don't spend my precious time with this argumentative critics.

If they truly know what to preach, let them go out there and make disciples!

Emusan:
For the last time! If you boycott or dodge any of my questions, I'm done with you!

Because using that tactics won't work.



No wonder there's no difference between you and the PEOPLE who called Jesus son of Mary because two of you are very carnal.



Idiot you're still dodging my question.

What did the Father send?



Says deluded person!



Liar like your father the Devil!

Horama is what is what the writer of Acts used for Moses in the experience of the "Burning Bush"

"When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to get a closer look, he heard the Lord say:" Acts 7:31

The word translated as 'SIGHT' was HORAMA



The description of that event pointed to reality.

If it's to be a vision, God could have allowed them to experience it anywhere since nobody will know about it apart from them but for Jesus to PERSONALLY TOOK three of His disciples to a SECRET PLACE and TRANSFIGURE in their presence speaks volume.

So back to my question. How can ordinary human being TRANSFIGURE?



For the last time because I know your dull brain can never assimilate anything and it's so obvious how you intentionally dodged my question just to divert attention because you know it will expose you and your father the Devil.

This was my question "are ALL CHRISTIANS not died in Christ?

The verse says If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection" NWT

Well I know people like you will not die with Christ!



Manoah: Are you the man my wife said talked to her
Angel of the Lord: Yes! Why? because the figure the woman saw was the figure of a man, no further question to actualise the NATURE.

Jesus disciples were so AFRAID when THEY SAW a FIGURE of a MAN and thought it to be GHOST but for Jesus to proof it to them, Jesus challenged them to TOUCH HIM "For a SPIRIT has no FLESH and BONES as you see ME HAVE"

The verse is very clear but only deluded JWs will read another meaning into it.



If the Angel is actually MAN, tell us how he went STRAIGHT to heaven WITH THE SAME HUMAN BODY



Says the deluded JWs.

Guy ,

Emusan:
Ole....

Even the verse you cherry pick proves you to be a liar!

"....And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, and the living one,..." 17-18 NWT

Jesus Himself is the FOUNTAIN OF LIFE, it's only in the deluded JWs imagination that a LIFE Himself can died.

Okay , so who says I became dead in that same place ? That's what I want to know.

Emusan:
Ole....

Even the verse you cherry pick proves you to be a liar!

"....And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, and the living one,..." 17-18 NWT

Jesus Himself is the FOUNTAIN OF LIFE, it's only in the deluded JWs imagination that a LIFE Himself can died.

MUMU Musings....
1Cor 15:12,13 , if Jesus no die he go resurrect?

Revelations 1:18, Jesus Christ said he died and his God raised him up from death.
Why this truth dey pain you for brain?

Emusan:
For the last time! If you boycott or dodge any of my questions, I'm done with you!

Guy dont run . I know u wanted to run

Because using that tactics won't work.

No wonder there's no difference between you and the PEOPLE who called Jesus son of Mary because two of you are very carnal.

Mary birth God from His womb

Mary Carry the divine nature in her womb making her Mother of God. You can't escape it. Man

Idiot you're still dodging my question.

What did the Father send?
Says deluded person!

Only a deluded man make analysis from miracle.
Which sperm fertilize Marys egg?

Liar like your father the Devil!

U called Act 12:9 a liar ?

Horama is what is what the writer of Acts used for Moses in the experience of the "Burning Bush"

"When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to get a closer look, he heard the Lord say:" Acts 7:31

The word translated as 'SIGHT' was HORAMA

I think I need to ring it into your head more .

Act 12:9. HORAMA IS NOT REALITY .

" ' And he went out and followed him. He did not know that what was being done by the angel WAS REAL, BUT THOUGHT he was seeing a vision [horama] "

Horama is not reality. Peter thought it was just an unreal vision which means He actually is still in the prison but saw himself been freed . But Unknown to him it wasn't an horama BUT REALITY

You are so deluded that you can't see that Horama was contrasted with reality here.

Burning bush is a vision

Act 7:31 Darby " And Moses seeing it wondered at the vision; and as he went up to consider it, there was a voice of [the] Lord, "

We are talking about actual Reality.

Its getting more than you think .

The description of that event pointed to reality.

Vision is not Reality ( Act 12:9 )

U are hanged on this one

If it's to be a vision, God could have allowed them to experience it anywhere since nobody will know about it apart from them but for Jesus to PERSONALLY TOOK three of His disciples to a SECRET PLACE and TRANSFIGURE in their presence speaks volume.

If its reality, Where did Moses and Elijah got there human body from with which they appear ? Has Ressurection occured ??

So back to my question. How can ordinary human being TRANSFIGURE?

vision ! Not reality


So QUESTION: HOW COME it was a vision , if he has the divine nature for real ?

For the last time because I know your dull brain can never assimilate anything and it's so obvious how you intentionally dodged my question just to divert attention because you know it will expose you and your father the Devil.

This was my question "are ALL CHRISTIANS not died in Christ?

The verse says If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection" NWT

Well I know people like you will not die with Christ!

Not all , that's why there is First and second ressurection. Second is general godly together with ungodly ones . all this godly/righteous ones in the second are not Christians ?? Tell me something interesting

Manoah: Are you the man my wife said talked to her
Angel of the Lord: Yes! Why? because the figure the woman saw was the figure of a man , no further question to actualise the NATURE.

So which figure did the apostles saw ?

U no just wise . Figure they saw doesn't mean that's who he is.

The man said Yes . that's all I need. He proved the figure right

Jesus disciples were so AFRAID when THEY SAW a FIGURE of a MAN and thought it to be GHOST but for Jesus to proof it to them, Jesus challenged them to TOUCH HIM "For a SPIRIT has no FLESH and BONES as you see ME HAVE"

The verse is very clear but only deluded JWs will read another meaning into it.

Jacob fought an angel, TOUCHED him and yet was called a man, because he appeared in Flesh and bones.


As long as that Angel in the case of Manoah is not lying, Jesus too is not lying, they were proving the figure seen Right.

If the Angel is actually MAN, tell us how he went STRAIGHT to heaven WITH THE SAME HUMAN BODY
.

Are u insinuating He LIED ??

Because I dont know your problem here.

Janosky:


MUMU Musings....
1Cor 15:12,13 , if Jesus no die he go resurrect?

Revelations 1:18, Jesus Christ said he died and his God raised him up from death.
Why this truth dey pain you for brain?

Emusan mumu get levels . admitting he died will finish him , so he had to keep insisting he never dies. Which make him an enemy of Jesus death for mankind. This movie dey sweet Guy