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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by seunmsg(m): 2:20pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
ok fine, if you were a prof after countless supervision, marking, teaching, research you were paid 350k per month how would you feel?

Very bad. However, the issue should be about the salary structure and not IPPIS. IPPIS is just a payroll software. ASUU can fight for better pay instead of fighting against the payroll software.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Twoclans(f): 2:20pm On May 19, 2020
The first case I had to appear as a witness for the EFCC was a case involving padding of ghost workers salary by a firm. I fear who no fear this country.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by CodeTemplar: 2:22pm On May 19, 2020
mayor1814:
It's so annoying to know that young guys and ladies sit down in computer room determining the salaries of lecturers and professors. These professors have been lecturing before 80% of IPPIS workforce were born.


Lots of deduction on the lecturers and professors salaries by IPPIS.

It's such a sad and pathetic situation.
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Ha ha ha...See ancestral kind of thinking. This is the kind of thinking that made our fore fathers worship their great grand father's spirit who could not advance them technologically.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Volunteer29(m): 2:24pm On May 19, 2020
Decibel:


https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJoeAbah/status/1261560213204865024
SMH for this country, only God will see and help this nation. A country where someone does nothing, yet get paid(multiple times). Meanwhile, the real workers are being owed. Those willing to commit themselves in honesty are sitting at home, jobless and wallowing in starvation. The innocent students of the country are suffering and receiving inadequate education; whereas, the children of these heartless lecturers (ASUU) are scattered in different countries, boasting of grades (1st class) and posting on social media just to intimidate and make their counterparts in the country feel inferior.
rotadeco27:
If government wins this fight, it will create a lots of spaces for for unemployed young graduate.
If this country will move forward every has to sincere.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by shugabasbn: 2:28pm On May 19, 2020
And funnily they still went to Mecca/ Hajj n Jerusalem with ghost worker's money

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by clemmonce(m): 2:29pm On May 19, 2020
stagger:


Shut up. I did not ask you anything and was not referring to you. So get out of my mentions. Fool!
You see your life... mumu man. Who gave you mention.....

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Rutherford2019: 2:35pm On May 19, 2020
I was suspended from Michael Okpara University of Agriculture Umudike in August 2017..
But since then I have not received any salary but my pension account is being credited till date
On January this year I applied for pension account statement and I couldn't believe that FG has been paying us salary but the VC is diverting it to his personal account
We are about 800 staff that were suspended..
On this month some of us sent our staff numbers,bvn, and other things required by FG , low and behold we were paid 2months salaries

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by DrewMX(m): 2:36pm On May 19, 2020
Hmm...Even IPPIS is not exempted.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by zikter(m): 2:38pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


Lol stop rambling nonsense. There's enough talent in the workforce with masters degress to replace these workers. If need be the workers in public sector can be poached along with talent from other African countries. If they dont wish to oney lawful directive they can try their hsnd with state universities and private sector.

The unemployment rate is high over 20 percent. They dont hsve much leverage in this situation. You're doctor example is a lame apples and oranged comparison.
with all this grammar you are blowing, there are no enough lecturers in the university system. Why is the government not employing the so many talents roaming the street? Let them start from there first. Some comments here give an insight of how incapable some people will be, given Buhari's position
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by GavelSlam: 2:51pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
ok fine, if you were a prof after countless supervision, marking, teaching, research you were paid 350k per month how would you feel?

Your ability to monetize your knowledge does not stop at those functions.

Carry out research and make patents.

Write books and papers that would add to the body of knowledge and by so doing increasing your networth.

Give talks and create YouTube channels if you consider yourself an expert.


350k is not the limit to your ability.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Ugonna62: 2:54pm On May 19, 2020
Civil service,the center of corruption in nigeria,meanwhile to achieve zero mortality rate in brooding of your day old chicks,farm mgt.and consultancy services,kindly check my signature.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by mamaafrik(m): 2:54pm On May 19, 2020
Rutherford2019:
I was suspended from Michael Okpara University of Agriculture Umudike in August 2017..
But since then I have not received any salary but my pension account is being credited till date
On January this year I applied for pension account statement and I couldn't believe that FG has been paying us salary but the VC is diverting it to his personal account
We are about 800 staff that were suspended..
On this month some of us sent our staff numbers,bvn, and other things required by FG , low and behold we were paid 2months salaries
did you people do follow up to efcc level??,
What is the name of the v.c??

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by KingAzubuike(f): 2:59pm On May 19, 2020
stagger:


No, if you made such a serious allegation, you have to be prepared to back it up with proof. You cannot just make a wild allegation and leave it at that.

No foreign organization provides money for research grants without a follow-up. NONE!
It is also not possible to apply for a research grant, not provide the outcomes, then apply for another one and be granted. It is not possible. So if you have an instance of one where this has happened and you have proof, I will like to see it.
Lol laughable
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:00pm On May 19, 2020
zikter:
with all this grammar you are blowing, there are no enough lecturers in the university system. Why is the government not employing the so many talents roaming the street? Let them start from there first. Some comments here give an insight of how incapable some people will be, given Buhari's position

Who told you there's a shortage of university lecturers? I haven't seen any report claiming this. If there's a shortage schools would hirer real lecturers instead of paying ghost. Lol you're making erroneous statements because you can't defend your rights arguement. Lol you'd be weak like Buhari always complaining but you dont see audits or prosecutions.

The government job isnt to hire everyone. They need to improve their economic policies so private sector hires these unemployed people. Nigeria already spends too much on recurrent expenditures.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:01pm On May 19, 2020
GavelSlam:


Your ability to monetize your knowledge does not stop at those functions.

Carry out research and make patents.

Write books and papers that would add to the body of knowledge and by so doing increasing your networth.

Give talks and create YouTube channels if you consider yourself an expert.


350k is not the limit to your ability.
you have not answered my question. You don't know what it takes to reach there. All those things you listed is the least of what it takes to be a Prof. If govt feels that 350k is what a Prof deserves in Nigeria then say by bye to education.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:05pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


Very bad. However, the issue should be about the salary structure and not IPPIS. IPPIS is just a payroll software. ASUU can fight for better pay instead of fighting against the payroll software.
yea because the software is controlled by high level fraudsters. This is the death of education. So if I am a prof my course rep who just graduated would be earning more than me because he is working in DPR or NNPC?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by seunmsg(m): 3:07pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
yea because the software is controlled by high level fraudsters. This is the death of education. So if I am a prof my course rep who just graduated would be earning more than me because he is working in DPR or NNPC?

Is anybody stopping the Prof. from joining DPR or NNPC?

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:09pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


Is anybody stopping the Prof. from joining DPR or NNPC?
if all the prof join NNPC who will now teach the youth?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:13pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


Is anybody stopping the Prof. from joining DPR or NNPC?
the best is for the university is to be autonomous. Let them charge high fees especially for post graduate study. Then govt can give their support. Lecturers will now be paid from igr but university igr is domiciled in TSA. You see how wicked govt is.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 3:14pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


Lol stop rambling nonsense. There's enough talent in the workforce with masters degress to replace these workers. If need be the workers in public sector can be poached along with talent from other African countries. If they dont wish to oney lawful directive they can try their hsnd with state universities and private sector.

The unemployment rate is high over 20 percent. They dont hsve much leverage in this situation. You're doctor example is a lame apples and oranged comparison.

Stop being an idiot..

You don't have the requisite experience to replace the senior lecturers and Profs in the employ of the Federal universities....

To you, medical consultants should no longer be recruited to tutor medical students, cos they are comfortably employed in the hospitals.. You did rant they be sacked to recruit who? You.

A fresh PhD needs at least 3 years research experience to tutor postgraduate students...

To idiots online, Seasoned professionals should be sacked for clowns to be recruited.

Lecturers are not the reason for the high employment rate in Nigeria. Study hard, perhaps you could be considered.

On a sad note to some you... Proponents of IPPIS has come to understand that Sabbaticals and Adjunct lecturing is here to stay... No rants can change that...

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by mamaafrik(m): 3:15pm On May 19, 2020
I feel the best thing is that the IPPS should be applied but the accountant of the university should be given a payroll in line with all the ancillary works like sabbatical,script marking,electioneering participation etc to be double sign by the accountant of the university,V.C and the concerned staff which will be sent by email to IPPIS data system and be paid included in the following month basic salary.

My people what do you think.

The Judiciary ,legislature, the executive arm of government too should be included in the ippis scheme(local government budget inclusive).
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by zikter(m): 3:15pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


Who told you there's a shortage of university lecturers? I haven't seen any report claiming this. If there's a shortage schools would hirer real lecturers instead of paying ghost. Lol you're making erroneous statements because you can't defend your rights arguement. Lol you'd be weak like Buhari always complaining but you dont see audits or prosecutions.

The government job isnt to hire everyone. They need to improve their economic policies so private sector hires these unemployed people. Nigeria already spends too much on recurrent expenditures.
Please google is always available for this kind of things. Just google the subject. More over, try to read about ASUU issues with the IPPIS system before swallowing anything whole from the government. What of numerous complaints those already on the system are bringing out.
Moreso, how do you sack an entire work force as you claim and still sustain the sector? It implies you are even worst than the Buhari you are castigating

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by seunmsg(m): 3:17pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
the best is for the university is to be autonomous. Let them charge high fees especially for post graduate study. Then govt can give their support. Lecturers will now be paid from igr but university igr is domiciled in TSA. You see how wicked govt is.

I hope you know the implication of what you’re suggesting? How many families in Nigeria can afford to pay the kind of school fees paid in Covenant, Afe Babalola university etc?

What you’re suggesting will simply deny children of poor parents university education.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:19pm On May 19, 2020
Lol mumu stop rambling nonsense. You're making strawman arguements because you're too dumb to argue point I made. If you dont register for IPPIS you can be fired end of story. The government didnt say adjuncts and sabbatical arent allowed like you're foolishly pretending.

On payment to sabbatical and adjunct lecturers, the official said these categories of lecturers are duly recognised by IPPIS.

However, he said this was dependent on the submission of the particulars of the affected lecturers, including their IPPIS number, primary institution, the start date of the sabbatical or the visiting and the end date.

While all staff on sabbatical are entitled to 100 per cent of their salaries as sabbatical allowances, he said visiting and adjunct lecturers would get 50 per cent of their salaries as visiting allowance.


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jmaine:


Stop being an idiot..

You don't have the requisite experience to replace the senior lecturers and Profs in the employ of the Federal universities....

To you, medical consultants should no longer be recruited to tutor medical students, cos they are comfortably employed in the hospitals.. You did rant they be sacked to recruit who? You.

A fresh PhD needs at least 3 years research experience to tutor postgraduate students...

To idiots online, Seasoned professionals should be sacked for clowns to be recruited.

Lecturers are not the reason for the high employment rate in Nigeria. Study hard, perhaps you could be considered.

On a sad note to some you... Proponents of IPPIS has come to understand that Sabbaticals and Adjunct lecturing is here to stay... No rants can change that...
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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 3:23pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:
Lol mumu stop rambling nonsense. You're making strawman arguements because you're too dumb to argue point I made. If you dont register for IPPIS you can be fired end of story. The government didnt say adjuncts and sabbatical arent allows like you're foolishly pretending.


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Continue existing in a fools paradise....

You think it's easy to sack/punish Union members due to labour conflicts?

When the acts establishing labour unions in Nigeria forbids such.

It's akin to folks screaming seasoned Military Generals and top officers be sacked to recruit idiots baying for blood online...

Your points were baseless and stupid...
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by ngwababe(f): 3:24pm On May 19, 2020
Politicians eh! They keep arranging civil servants money, but their own is untouchable. At the end, they won't still pay retirement, but will carry billions of naira as there own.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by sonofthunder: 3:25pm On May 19, 2020
Bolustical:
I saw a lot of ASUU members foaming in the mouth that day.

Las las, we only want a good country but we don't want to contribute what is legally required of us.

It's sad to see members of the academia under pay taxes, submit names of dead members for salaries and fail BVN tests.
Many of you folks lack an understanding of the underground battle going on and not the media propaganda the fg is promoting. These folks don't mean well for the masses, the earlier we decode, the better. Most of our institutions are dead and they are ready to destroy the public universities that are managing to stand on one leg.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:25pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


I hope you know the implication of what you’re suggesting? How many families in Nigeria can afford to pay the kind of school fees paid in Covenant, Afe Babalola university etc?

What you’re suggesting will simply deny children of poor parents university education.
then ask to know what convenant is paying their prof. So a prof of medicine would be paid 350k? Then what is he doing in the university? Let buhari go and teach medicine now. So I should collect 350k because I am teaching children of the poor? chai. I am now running a charity organization?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by sonofthunder: 3:26pm On May 19, 2020
Tobinrobin:
As good as this IPPIS is, why can’t they incorporate the same for the lawmakers as well? Glaringly they’re not as much as the staffs of ministries and parastatals but what’s good for the goose should be good for the gander
Thank you sir. Most people are listening to the FG's part of the story but no one wants to listen to ASUU.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:26pm On May 19, 2020
zikter:
Please google is always available for this kind of things. Just google the subject. More over, try to read about ASUU issues with the IPPIS system before swallowing anything whole from the government. What of numerous complaints those already on the system are bringing out.
Moreso, how do you sack an entire work force as you claim and still sustain the sector? It implies you are even worst than the Buhari you are castigating

You're judt making statements you cant back up. There's no shortage of university lecturers in Nigeria. Lol university lectures are already complying only the stubborn ones would be fired. If you dont like the system you dont have ro work for the government take your talents to the private sector. You can register while bugs are worked out.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:30pm On May 19, 2020
Volunteer29:



SMH for this country, only God will see and help this nation. A country where someone does nothing, yet get paid(multiple times). Meanwhile, the real workers are being owed. Those willing to commit themselves in honesty are sitting at home, jobless and wallowing in starvation. The innocent students of the country are suffering and receiving inadequate education; whereas, the children of these heartless lecturers (ASUU) are scattered in different countries, boasting of grades (1st class) and posting on social media just to intimidate and make their counterparts in the country feel inferior.
with 350k a lecturer would send his ward to UK abi?

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