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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:03pm On May 19, 2020
It's a cure for malaria because it contains the plant athemisia used in making ACT anti-malaria drugs.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Uzowee(m): 7:03pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ceejayluv(m): 7:04pm On May 19, 2020
babyfaceafrica:



Your submission is noble, however it shows you have faith in WHO.... I don't!!!.. Why the propaganda against Madagascar since they said they have an herbal treatment... Every country should be free to decide how to take care of their country men... If this herbal drug was produced by Russia, China or US.. Will it be so maligned?.. However it is not entirely their fault.. Na we cause am... We import everything and develop nothing
There's no propaganda against Madagascar. It was Madagascar that claimed the concoction is a cure. Do you know what it means to say something is an outright cure ?. Without large scale testing?. They only asked them to pass it through formal testing and discouraged people from self medication- which is s no brainer because given the chance some folks will overdose on it.

Vietnam has more cases than Madagascar with no single death. So also central African republic and island of Réunion. Why haven't they pushed forward one concoction and claimed it's a cure?

Remdesivir has been tested in the USA on over 2000 patients and found to have lowered mortality by 30 percent. Still, Fauci never came out to claim Eureka!! We've found a cure!

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Akaegwu(m): 7:06pm On May 19, 2020
paulolee:
good...so much pressure to spoil d name of this madagascar herbal drink ever since it was sent to Nigeria...if the medicine isnt working they should jus tell us instead of all this propaganda...i jus get the feeling that some African countries would bow to the pressure of W.H.O and won't even bother to try or test this medical aid...my country said they are still waiting for science and mayb the W.H.O is the headquarters of the xo called science....lets wait and see shaa...
in other news...who else noticed that the sticks in a match box av reduced from the normal 200 sticks to jus 120 sticks...abi the missing 80sticks de on quarantine or it was reduced to practice minimal social distancing??
We have limited things to cook since the covid-19. The rich use eletrik powered gas cookers. We Buhari poor followers don't need the 80 stick. We love half bread or even nothing at all.

Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by SoulB6: 7:06pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by GamalNasser: 7:07pm On May 19, 2020
ThinkFreely:
There is no evidence that the herbal product can cure covid19. If you have any clinical trial please let’s see it

Even after having a 100 percent cure rate and zero death to all that took it? The only Madagascan that died didn't use COVID but another protocol
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:09pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this
Where can I buy such athemisia annual tea in Nigeria?
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Galactico4ever(m): 7:10pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:11pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:


Even after having a 100 percent cure rate and zero death to all that took it? The only Madagascan that died didn't use COVID but another protocol
where did you see the information that the one that died didn't use the herbs?

Is this 100% cure rate to you?

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ceejayluv(m): 7:14pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:


Even after having a 100 percent cure rate and zero death to all that took it? The only Madagascan that died didn't use COVID but another protocol

Vietnam, Réunion and Central African Republic have more impressive stats with no single deaths as well. Qatar had almost a thousand cases before they recorded their first death. Did They push forward any magical potion they Used?. The virus affects countries differently due to many factors including genetics, weather, environment,etc. It's still being studied.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ThinkFreely: 7:15pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:


Even after having a 100 percent cure rate and zero death to all that took it? The only Madagascan that died didn't use COVID but another protocol
Thats not how clinical trials are done.
Start with animal trials, in-vitro then move to humans using standard experimental protocols that will allow us compare the results with other drugs and placebos.
Identify and isolate the active compound in the herb then present a mechanism of actions by which the therapeutic effect work.
Do toxicity test on both mice and humans to ascertain the exact dosage of the drug.

Document properly the side effects of the drug and be sure that we don’t treat COVID19 and then later cause any other ailment.

That’s how it works, no sane scientifically literate person or organization including WHO will take them serious if all these are not met.

This is not gbogbonise business

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Horus(m): 7:15pm On May 19, 2020
If tested in Africa by Africans, WHO will say: "This herbal drink is not proven to be a cure" shocked
If tested in Europe by white people, WHO will say: "This herbal drink is the most effective cure in the world" grin
It is obvious that WHO is trying to fool you
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by rhames(m): 7:16pm On May 19, 2020
GamalNasser:
Even though its active ingredient Artemisinin is a known reputable cure for Malaria it is a also a potent and capable anti virus and anticoagulant which is why it is able to stop COVID just like Chloroquine but unlike Chloroquine it is a low toxicity drug with little or no known side effect...Dont allow the Globalist Satanists mislead you that there is no cure to COVID because of their sinister plots ...Infact I just finished having a cup of Artmesia Annual tea before seeing this

Another demarketing strategy by Bill Gates apologists and bootlickers. Why do Africans condemn their own and praise foreigners achieve ments?

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by sucess001(m): 7:17pm On May 19, 2020
etrange:


I don't think so. Science is not about sentimentality but empirical evidence. You can't push a cure to the world based on "no harm in trying". This only make mockery of Africa and fighting for it based on emotional grounds is even more reason why the world won't take seriously in future. This could be the cure but let's advocate for due process.


As you can see, even the Europeans are now trying to play catch up by trying artemesin based solutions for the virus. They are now saying it could make people resistant to malaria....it definitely smells fishy and it seems they secretly know that the herbal drug is a cure...
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Gabbriell: 7:19pm On May 19, 2020
etrange:


I don't think so. Science is not about sentimentality but empirical evidence. You can't push a cure to the world based on "no harm in trying". This only make mockery of Africa and fighting for it based on emotional grounds is even more reason why the world won't take seriously in future. This could be the cure but let's advocate for due process.

Well said
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by ThinkFreely: 7:20pm On May 19, 2020
rhames:


Another demarketing strategy by Bill Gates apologists and bootlickers. Why do Africans condemn their own and praise foreigners achieve ments?
We won’t condemn it if it passes all scientific standards of drug approval. Global drug approval is not done by emotions, it’s done by bending down to work and meeting all required standard as to how a drug carries out it’s therapeutic effect.

It’s not by playing emotional game

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by olmoRoc: 7:27pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by adeblow(m): 7:33pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:37pm On May 19, 2020
Greenbirth:
Whatever it is. Let it be tried first before complaining. Most African herbs are very good for anything like malaria or fever which corona is part of the family.

Trial and error has no place here. I'm not criticizing the drug, but clinical trial is essential before a drug can be certified for a whole world to use. This is not a case of ur family member is sick and u want to try one agbo on him. We are talking about the whole country here and the whole world too. U can't just recommend something without a clinical trial for people to ingest into their system, it doesn't work like that. It is not criticism, it's not the fact that it came from Africa (if it came from the US or China the same approach would be taken). Problem with us here is we just so much believe in miracles mixture. This is why an unknown woman would be Hawking some herbal mixtures and people will buy and gulp into their system without even asking or knowing what kind of mixture they just drank. Once they say it's agbo iba, agbo Jedi, opa eyin, guys will just swallow without even knowing what was mixed.

In case u don't know, US biotech firm Moderna have reported progress in finding a vaccine for the virus. They are currently in phase one of clinical test and results have been positive. But the drugs cannot be certified yet until they go through all necessary clinical tests phases. That is the way it works before u can certify a drug for the whole world to use. Now just imagine if that company is from Africa, after just the first phase of clinical trial yield positive results, u all would be shouting they should approve it that there is no harm in trying.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by etrange: 7:37pm On May 19, 2020
babyfaceafrica:



Your submission is noble, however it shows you have faith in WHO.... I don't!!!.. Why the propaganda against Madagascar since they said they have an herbal treatment... Every country should be free to decide how to take care of their country men... If this herbal drug was produced by Russia, China or US.. Will it be so maligned?.. However it is not entirely their fault.. Na we cause am... We import everything and develop nothing

What's now the point in being a WHO member state if you do not want to follow the WHO process? Madagascar is not the only country working on a possible vaccine, other countries, including the ones you mentioned are following the basic process. Some of them like Canada, US, UK, etc are already in the clinical trial stage. Meanwhile, Madagascar is already shipping what they believe would work. Now, they're leaving the WHO umbrella cause of it. If we keep behaving like an angry last born all the time, they'll keep patting us on the back like babies.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nairalandmonika: 7:38pm On May 19, 2020
AuntRose:
So far the Madagascan authorities have been using it to treat it's patient and have recorded zero deaths not until few days back. It has been proven (tho not scientifically) to work on COVID-19 so you don't expect the WHO to easily certify it pharmaceutically okay. There's a lot going on in WHO today that even Trump lost the little regards he had for them. Whether it is for Malaria or COVID-19 doesn't matter, we just need it readily available in it's pure form without adulteration.
Can't u see that US and Germany companies are partnering together and researching the effectiveness of the herbs, this is what Africa countries should be doing.
can't u see that WHO has giving the go ahead for the herbs to be research first.
Do u expect WHO to just agree with Madagascar that the herbs is a cure without any research?
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:41pm On May 19, 2020
Nairalandmonika:

Can't u see that US and Germany companies are partnering together and researching the effectiveness of the herbs, this is what Africa countries should be doing.
can't u see that WHO has giving the go ahead for the herbs to be research first.
Do u expect WHO to just agree with Madagascar that the herbs is a cure without any research?

Leave them. What do u expect from a country where people will drink anything in a bottle so far is it bitter. Just package anything and give it a name, just make sure the word 'bitters' appear on the name. Then u will cash out.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by GamalNasser: 7:42pm On May 19, 2020
ThinkFreely:
Thats not how clinical trials are done.
Start with animal trials, in-vitro then move to humans using standard experimental protocols that will allow us compare the results with other drugs and placebos.
Identify and isolate the active compound in the herb then present a mechanism of actions by which the therapeutic effect work.
Do toxicity test on both mice and humans to ascertain the exact dosage of the drug.

Document properly the side effects of the drug and be sure that we don’t treat COVID19 and then later cause any other ailment.

That’s how it works, no sane scientifically literate person or organization including WHO will take them serious if all these are not met.

This is not gbogbonise business

Well I know how clinical trials work but this is an emergency and the clinical observation is clear ..Keep waiting for clinical trials while Madagascar is saving lives ok
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nairalandmonika: 7:42pm On May 19, 2020
babyfaceafrica:



Your submission is noble, however it shows you have faith in WHO.... I don't!!!.. Why the propaganda against Madagascar since they said they have an herbal treatment... Every country should be free to decide how to take care of their country men... If this herbal drug was produced by Russia, China or US.. Will it be so maligned?.. However it is not entirely their fault.. Na we cause am... We import everything and develop nothing
What Madagascar did is very wrong, remember Oxford university is testing a vaccine currently in UK. Did UK govt come out to say they have coronavirus vaccine.
Madagascar should have simply carry out a proper research, maybe ask other African countries to Join them in the research.
It's only when such medicine has been proven to be effective b4 hyping it as a cure.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by babyfaceafrica: 7:44pm On May 19, 2020
Nairalandmonika:

What Madagascar did is very wrong, remember Oxford university is testing a vaccine currently in UK. Did UK govt come out to say they have coronavirus vaccine.
Madagascar should have simply carry out a proper research, maybe ask other African countries to Join them in the research.
It's only when such medicine has been proven to be effective b4 hyping it as a cure.

Madagascar should have simply carry out a proper research

Are u saying they didn't carry out any research?
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Beetobee(f): 7:46pm On May 19, 2020
Artemesia (tazargade in Hausa) is a plant that Hausas have used for ages in the treatment and management of a few ailments and I know it's harmless.
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by babyfaceafrica: 7:46pm On May 19, 2020
etrange:


What's now the point in being a WHO member state if you do not want to follow the WHO process? Madagascar is not the only country working on a possible vaccine, other countries, including the ones you mentioned are following the basic process. Some of them like Canada, US, UK, etc are already in the clinical trial stage. Meanwhile, Madagascar is already shipping what they believe would work. Now, they're leaving the WHO umbrella cause of it. If we keep behaving like an angry last born all the time, they'll keep patting us on the back like babies.
I like their antics.. Even if they behaved hastily in shipping out the drugs
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by GamalNasser: 7:47pm On May 19, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
where did you see the information that the one that died didn't use the herbs?

Is this 100% cure rate to you?


Keep fooling yourself even and be waiting for remsidivir that has has a 70 percent failure rate or a vaccine with a fatal margin of error of 15%. ..it's not someone like me you can fools with these misleading WHO jargons ..I know what Covid is , I know it's not a respiratory virus as we have been mislead to believe but a Virus that alters the viscosity of the blood and by now I understand what it's treatment protocol should look like ..
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by alezzy13: 7:52pm On May 19, 2020
AuntRose:
So far the Madagascan authorities have been using it to treat it's patient and have recorded zero deaths not until few days back. It has been proven (tho not scientifically) to work on COVID-19 so you don't expect the WHO to easily certify it pharmaceutically okay. There's a lot going on in WHO today that even Trump lost the little regards he had for them. Whether it is for Malaria or COVID-19 doesn't matter, we just need it readily available in it's pure form without adulteration.

So what if I told you I successfully cured 20 persons with my mixture bambala nuts mixed with beniseed, I'm you'll have no problem believing that, abi? undecided

Pls NOTE: WHO DOES NOT CERTIFY ANY DRUG!!! GET THAT RIGHT.

Certification is SOLELY the responsibility of regulatory agencies, NAFDAC, FDA, etc.

What WHO does is to look for available EVIDENCE, and provide recommendation based on that. And thats the problem: THERE IS NO SUCH EVIDENCE, other than stories.
.

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Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Pleasant01: 7:53pm On May 19, 2020
Roon9:


42% is small?
Una shar
few countries like Germany have done more than that and they don't claim to have the cure..
Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by Nairalandmonika: 7:55pm On May 19, 2020
babyfaceafrica:


Madagascar should have simply carry out a proper research

Are u saying they didn't carry out any research?
They didn't carry out any research, the herbs has been known to cure malaria and flu b4, because most people say coronavirus is like the flu they just assumed it to be effective against coronavirus. The day the president release this herb as a cure, he said it has been tested on only two persons. It has been tested on only two persons and he was already calling it a cure.

There are other countries with better recovery rate than Madagascar, below is Vietnam coronavirus stat, it's way better than Madagascar, they did not come out to say they have any cure.

Re: ANALYSIS: Is The Madagascan Herbal Drink A Cure For Malaria Or Coronavirus? by etrange: 7:55pm On May 19, 2020
sucess001:



As you can see, even the Europeans are now trying to play catch up by trying artemesin based solutions for the virus. They are now saying it could make people resistant to malaria....it definitely smells fishy and it seems they secretly know that the herbal drug is a cure...

But if they steal the idea, it would be as a result of our own foolishness. An educated mind mind knows that a due process would gain us patent rights but we are allowing emotions to control our actions in a world were pen has proven to be more powerful than guns. Artemisen didn't originate from Africa. It came from Asia and it has always worked against malaria from day one. And like you said, it could be a cure against the virus. But we won't make any headway if we keep approaching things in a crude way. Other countries subject their findings to scientific research/principles and report progress from time to time. Canada, UK, US all have companies that are in the clinical trial stage. These guys can easily present thier research papers for each stage. Scientific research process is the same everywhere. But we're already shipping out our drink around. We shouldn't complain when our ideas are stolen

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