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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:22am On May 20, 2020 |
Emusan:Thanks my good friend! ![]() Well as i've said countless times before now, it's from Islam that i saw the bright light amongst Jehovah's Witnesses. Matthew 5:14-16 So i'm patiently waiting to see the same in the midst of Trinitarians! Matthew 7:16-18 God bless you! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 11:26am On May 20, 2020 |
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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 11:33am On May 20, 2020 |
Maximus69:Luke 18:26-27 Those who HEARD asked, Then who can be SAVED? He answered, WHAT is IMPOSSIBLE for MEN is POSSIBLE for GOD. Oga Maximus69 even those of US you packed among those who you already TAGGED as (IMPOSSIBLE to be SAVED) our SALVATION will be POSSIBLE for OUR FATHER who dwells in HEAVEN zeal for it will make it HAPPEN. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 11:52am On May 20, 2020 |
Maximus69:Now he has deflected from the main issue! The fact that Russell and his team died as a pagan worshippers proves that watchtower society has no connection with Almighty God. And many Muslims have seen the light in midst of Trinitarian Can you deny that? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 12:16pm On May 20, 2020*. Modified: 12:46pm On May 20, 2020 |
Emusan:By their FRUIT you will IDENTIFY them! Matthew 7:16-18 There is no need for bitter arguments my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses Organization stand as one family globally and we don't believe anyone outside our group can be saved. If you believe that's not true it's OK, just continue preaching and teaching with zeal for your God. The fact that we won't take you as true Christians doesn't mean we want to kill you, it simply means our God differs from yours that's all! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 1:37pm On May 20, 2020 |
Maximus69:By the same FRUIT we're IDENTIFYING your false religion That's why the LIGHT IS GETTING BRIGHTER you know... There is no need for bitter arguments my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses Organization stand as one family globally and we don't believe anyone outside our group can be saved.When even your deluded organization BOLDLY says "Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26 Yet living in delusions of most PERFECT people on earth. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 2:11pm On May 20, 2020 |
Emusan:So now that you've gotten the fruit your own God requires and we've gotten the fruit our own God requires, i think there shouldn't be further criticism, just go and preach what your God requires and we will do the same. No wahala! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:06pm On May 21, 2020*. Modified: 6:28pm On May 21, 2020 |
Emusan:Emusan Triune pagan deity devotees DECEIVING himself since 19gbidigbidi. Jesus Christ dey live with him Father in heaven. Revelations 14:1. Revelations 3:5,12, Jesus Christ in heaven Says he no KNOW YOU triune pagan devotees ! ![]() Revelations 3:5 Like them, the one who is victorious will be dressed in white. And I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels. Revelation 14:1 Then I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion.... with his Father's name written on their foreheads" Revelation 3:12 "Him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God" |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 6:18pm On May 21, 2020 |
Emusan:PHAT LIAR.. Emusan Grand DELUSION! .Your triune pagan deity came down to earth ,whereas Romans 8:3 and John3:16-17, God sent his son in the likeness of men to die for Man's redemption. Triune pagan deity worshipper dey claim Almighty God wey HIM NO KNOW. ![]() Triune pagan deity devotees get ZERO connection with Jehovah, the Father of Jesus Christ in heaven. Confirmento! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 6:33pm On May 21, 2020 |
Janosky:So if God's word declares RUSSELL and his team of Pagan worshippers RIGHTEOUS, why are you giving yourself unnecessary headache? After all the same God's word will declare Trinitarian RIGHTEOUS. So you're a product of Pagan worshippers. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 6:34pm On May 21, 2020 |
Janosky:At least you didn't deny that your founder Charles Taze Russell and his team died as a pagan worshippers. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 7:35pm On May 21, 2020 |
Emusan:Knowledge is progressive , Proverbs 4:18, "the light must get brighter", ONLY FOOLS FAULT IT... Luke 24:45-48, Jesus Christ opened up the minds of his Followers fully to grasp the meaning of the Scriptures". Jesus Christ ADDED more Knowledge to what he had taught them before and corrected their misunderstandings of Scriptures. Luke 24:21-27. Come & see Emusan hypocrite "identifying false religion" Since he knew Luke 9:30-35 CONFIRMED his "John1:1,14, Jesus is God dwell in the flesh FRAUD, did Emusan ever admit his WAYO belief is a FRAUD ? ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 7:45pm On May 21, 2020 |
Emusan:Emusan PHAT LIAR. I NEVER said that LIE you shamelessly typed up there.. If you are not a PHAT LIAR you would Never superimpose your FRAUDULENT comment and attribute that comment to Janosky. Cc: OAM4J, Emusan violated Nairaland Rule no8. The Screenshots speaks for itself...
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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 7:51pm On May 21, 2020 |
Janosky:All he wants to establish is that your so called Organization has flaws in the past so don't rely on whatever they teach you, accept all other religious ideologies as equal to yours. Emusan ~ Forget the contradictions and flaws in our TRINITY since your group also had flaws in the past, we are your equals in faith! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:27am On May 22, 2020 |
Janosky:See this clown.... I supposed to report you for spamming my mention but I didn't. So you're now crying to mod for deliverance, your pain never starts. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:34am On May 22, 2020 |
Janosky:The light getting brighter NOT that the LIGHT KEEP4 CHANGING... Besides, Prov 4:18 isn't a prophetic verse if you read with open mind. Jesus Christ added MORE KNOWLEDGE not that they believe LIES Whatever RUSSELL and his team of pagan worshippers died as a pagan. So they're the most deluded pagan worshippers. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 9:41am On May 22, 2020 |
Maximus69:You're not wise! My point isn't whether your organization has flaws in the past the point: Do you think if the Apostles have operated the way watchtower did, you can still trust their writings? Do you think God can allow Russel and his team of pagan worshippers died without knowing the truth when He's the one who called Russell? Why will God allow a pagan worshippers to be part of His heavenly one? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:21am On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:(1) They made many mistakes, if you're not called to it you won't know! (2) All the Apostles have died before Jesus revealed what will happen to them for John! (3) Pagan means (unbeliever) note that a worshiper of Sango is also a believer but failed to know whom to believe! So they're all believers but not having accurate knowledge at that time, just as most of Jesus Apostle never had the accurate knowledge like John who got the revelation! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 12:31pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:Emusan you no get liver, go ahead and report..... ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:37pm On May 22, 2020 |
Maximus69:Do their MISTAKES allowed them to died in wrong believe? (2) All the Apostles have died before Jesus revealed what will happen to them for John!Does what Jesus reveal through apostle John CONTRADICT what the rest of Apostles died with? (3) Pagan means (unbeliever) note that a worshiper of Sango is also a believer but failed to know whom to believe! So they're all believers but not having accurate knowledge at that time, just as most of Jesus Apostle never had the accurate knowledge like John who got the revelation!So what is the difference between Russell and his team your God couldn't correct and allowed to died as a pagan in worshipping Jesus along side of Jehovah and Trinitarian? Why would Jehovah allow Russell to died in wrong believe, if he was the one who actually called him? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:42pm On May 22, 2020 |
Janosky:I'm just showing how stupid and nitwit you are. So why didn't the mod you called banned me? You cried to mod when you're stupidly spamming my mention which is also against NL rules yet thinking it should dance to your favour. The same way you people will be condemning other people without looking at the log in your own eyes. Hypocrite!!! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 12:53pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:(1)None of God's servants died in wrong belief, it was a progressive understanding that took place. Note that John the baptist was sent ahead of Jesus, yet Jesus had to correct the misconceptions John taught his own followers {Matthew 9:14-17} even one of John's disciples (Apollos) was teaching people about Jesus but Priscilla and Aquila had to correct the misconceptions in his teachings! 18:24-26 So the progressive understanding of God's word never meant those who held the old opinion were pagans! ![]() (2)Not exactly but their were misconceptions they died with that John later corrected! For instance, when Jesus said something about Apostle John, Peter went telling everyone that Jesus said John will not die until Jesus returns so John who wrote his gospel some 66 years later after all the Apostles (including Peter) have died, correct that misconception! John 21:20-23 (3) Russell was a sincere Bible student who began the research with his team, he never claimed to be inspired that's why we continue to dig deeper to unravel more sacred secrets that Russell himself didn't discover in his own time. But one thing is certain, it's the foundation his team laid down that has led to further discoveries, unlike other religious groups who thought their founders were inspired and remained in the teachings of such founders even after discovering the errors of their Church founders! (4) Neither Russell nor his team said anything about being called by God! They were just Bible scholars till their death, Jesus later chose their group and started guiding them to make improvements! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 1:00pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:When SHOWN their mode of operation they feel bitter, but they QUICKLY jump on mode of operation of OTHERS and used it as a means to RAISE their ORG up above the OTHERS For example 1. God don't need an ORGANIZATION....... Russell. +/- 20 years later God needs an ORGANIZATION one of kind that everyone on earth OWE SALVATION to........Rutherford. Example 2: Romans 13: 1 talks about Governmental authorities............. Russell. +/- 20 years later Romans 13:1 talks about only JEHOVAH and Jesus.........Rutherford. +/- 20 years later Romans 13:1 means government authorities...... The reason you stated Do you think if the Apostles have operated the way watchtower did, you can still trust their writings? How can ONE call the ABOVE a case of LIGHT getting brighter. It looks a case of a SWITCH. Light Going ON and OFF. As those BIBLE STUDENTS soon found out, however, it can be ONE THING to learn what the Bible teaches about a certain DOCTRINAL SUBJECT but quite another to DISCERN CORRECTLY the meaning of a BIBLE PROPHECY..............If we focus on only one aspect of the PROPHECY and ignore the rest, we may draw the WRONG CONCLUSION. When ONE is taught what is WRONG or NOT correct. Can that PERSON be said to be in the LIGHT? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 1:12pm On May 22, 2020 |
Right from Abel till John the baptist {Luke 11:51} there has continued to be more enlightenment regarding how mankind will be delivered from sin! 1Corinthians 13:9-10 So in each generation God reveals something new to increase the knowledge of his faithful servants, of course we now know better than those who lived before us! What you guys supposed to ask is "why is God revealing the sacred secrets little by little so that each generation of his servants needs the new light"? Proverbs 4:18 ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 1:17pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:WAYO Emusan mouth and DELUDED brain DECEIVE am he imagine Russell worships idols like himself and him triune pagan deity devotees ![]() Emusan, that day light at 5:00am gets brighter at 10:00am, it's POSITIVE CHANGE Proverbs 4:18 The light getting brighter and more brighter ,it's POSITIVE CHANGE..... Practical Example... Isaiah 42:18, "I am Jehovah, that is my name! I will not give my glory to another ...." John 17:17, Your word is Truth". John 17:24, "Father,I want those you have given me to be with me and see my glory,the glory YOU have given me before the creation of the world" Emusan GRAND DELUSION concludes that Jesus and his Father are liars whereas, the light of truth gets brighter given us better understanding of Isaiah 42:8 and John 17:17,24. (See John15:15). John 18:36 Jesus testify, bear witness to the truth, Emusan circumcise your heart and ears.. ![]() Emusan triune Pagan deity devotee pretending to be following Christ. ![]() TUEH. !!!! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 1:26pm On May 22, 2020 |
Maximus69:I know your block head won't still grab the point. Did they DIE believing wrong teaching? OR God allowed them to die in wrong teaching? (2)Not exactly but their were misconceptions they died with that John later corrected! For instance, when Jesus said something about Apostle John, Peter went telling everyone that Jesus said John will not die until Jesus returns so John who wrote his gospel some 66 years later after all the Apostles (including Peter) have died, correct that misconception! John 21:20-23Misconception is different from CHANGE / CONTRADICTION Now, let's assume everything written by John in Revelation contradict those previous Apostles since he's the last person Jesus revealed things to. Will you still trust in the infallibility of the Bible? (3) Russell was a sincere Bible student who began the research with his team, he never claimed to be inspired that's why we continue to dig deeper to unravel more sacred secrets that Russell himself didn't discover in his own time.Imagine....I know your case is like that person moving from frying pan to fire! From lying Islam to lying JWs. If I begin to show where RUSSELL and previous successors claim INSPIRATION for their works now, your tune will change Anyways, I know you must lie to continue to defend your demonic organization. For a start! "Jehovah's witnesses admire the qualities he possessed as a man, but were we to give the honor and credit to Pastor Russell, we would be saying that the works and success were his; but Jehovah's witnesses believe it is God's spirit that guides and directs his people." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (1959) p.63 Now you're here claiming they're not inspired when your deluded organization says they were inspired. (4) Neither Russell nor his team said anything about being called by God! They were just Bible scholars till their death, Jesus later chose their group and started guiding them to make improvements!At least you've confirmed that RUSSELL and his pagan team were not CALLED by God. RUSSELL and his team were BIBLE SCHOLARS from which school? This your lying mouth has reached the same level with your father the Devil. Kai....I'm just wondering the eyes Russell himself will use to look you from hell now. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 1:27pm On May 22, 2020 |
This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, MANY ANOINTED CHRISTIANS expected to receive their HEAVENLY REWARD in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their DELAYED EXPECTATIONS? Watchtower August 2019 Someone must have TOLD and TEACH them that they will RECEIVE REWARDS in 1914. Who was that individual? Who DELAYED THEIR EXPECTATIONS? Those that DIED before 1914 and had believed their REWARD is due in 1914(God's DATE, established TRUTH) did they DIE in a WRONG BELIEF? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 1:30pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:Confirmed LIAR dey DECEIVING himself.. So, your DELUDED brain dey tell you a man is stupid after you shamelessly ADD your FRAUD comment to his original post.... Wetin Musa no go see for gate ? Come and take Panadol, "God in the flesh dwells with man FRAUD EXPOSURES still dey give you sifia pains ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 1:37pm On May 22, 2020 |
Janosky:Russell worshipped Jesus till he died, Rutherford worshipped Jesus till he died and many JWs. So are they Idol worshippers or not? Emusan, that day light at 5:00am gets brighter at 10:00am, it's POSITIVE CHANGEIt's only the lying organization that pulled that out to deceive people like you no scholars as ever said prov 4:18 is a prophecy of CHANGE IN DOCTRINES. Practical Example...I'm very sure you don't see the implication of this, that's why you have to make your God a liar. The truth is God will never give His glory to a MERE creatures. Janosky triune Pagan deity devotee pretending to be following Christ.But the pagan Russell and his team who worshipped Christ are the true followers of Christ. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Janosky: 1:39pm On May 22, 2020 |
achorladey:John 16:16-19, Jesus Christ followers had a faulty understanding of his teachings, were they still in the light? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 1:46pm On May 22, 2020 |
Emusan:Thanks for sharing your time to reason along Sir! But if you still have further thought provoking questions about my beliefs, please feel free to ask but doing so with mild temper and deep respect for me as i'm doing with you now! I don't have any problem with your religious beliefs, all i'm saying is that my own God is not three in one so you go on worshiping yours while i also go on worshiping mine. No wahala! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by achorladey: 1:54pm On May 22, 2020 |
Janosky: You don't even understand the QUESTION at all. Here is it BELOW AGAIN. Read and get a HOLD of it Oga Janosky before you relate it to mine. When ONE is taught what is WRONG or NOT correct. Can that PERSON be said to be in the LIGHT? your bible verse no correlate at allThen look at the below as POSTED by Emusan Earlier "Now, let's assume everything written by John in Revelation contradict those previous Apostles since he's the last person Jesus revealed things to. Will you still trust in the infallibility of the Bible?" Will the organization you are a member of TEACH that the bible is HARMONIOUS? |
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