Subzero047:
This is the difference between Gegenpressing (Klopp) and Tiki taka (Guardiola)

TheGoodJoe:


That is growing. Winning or drawing games on the negative play is deceiving yourself you are good. Three years down the line, you will see yourself saying this team is not capable of good play.

Give Siasia these boys and see them pull off things that will impress you. Siasia never had the chance to build a team.

There was a time Leicester City whipped City four when we were learning Guardiola's system. Now,
we are a menace to even top teams.

Subzero047:


Possesive game? With Milner, Henderson and Fabinho?

TheGoodJoe:


So because Manchester City counters teams, we are not knocking the ball around. In the second half, we played in full throttle. Most of the time we had the ball, we went on the offensive.

Note the bolded. That is what the true characteristics of attacking football is.

TheGoodJoe:


So how can a coach who can meet and dominate Barcelona in a match be termed a counter attacking coach in any way.

TheGoodJoe:


So because Manchester City counters teams, we are not knocking the ball around. In the second half, we played in full throttle. Most of the time we had the ball, we went on the offensive.

Note the bolded. That is what the true characteristics of attacking football is.

TheGoodJoe:


Pressure on the ball

Before Barcelona played Manchester United in the Champions League final at Wembley in 2011, Alex Ferguson said that the way Barça pressured their opponents to win the ball back was "breathtaking". That, he added, was Guardiola's innovation. Ferguson admitted that United hadn't known how to cope with it in the Champions League final in Rome in 2009. He thought it would be different at Wembley. It wasn't.

https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/article/peps-four-golden-rules

andrewbaba44:


Henderson is now a different player under klopp

How many games does Milner even start self ,why didn’t you mention wijnaldum?

kendrick9:
His creativity comes from his fullbacks....
Mourinho's Madrid team didn't dominate the ball against top teams like klopp team does...

Subzero047:


This is basically counter attacking, what do you think is counter attacking, parking bus?

jihday:
I think he's correct we played on the counter

Subzero047:


Barca were poorly coached and lacking in quality even Slavia Prague dominated them in the Champions league

Subzero047:


TAA and Robertson only spam crosses into the box they do nothing else

TheGoodJoe:


Klopp has dominated Manchester City in some games. Especially on the offensive.

Edopesin:


The Argentines were not as composed in the second half as they were in the first half, we had no shot on goal in the first half
The leading goal from Idowu was due to their losing possession in the Midfield

Subzero047:


This is Liverpool in the Champions league final against Tottenham

TheGoodJoe:


Anytime the NFF wants to give the Job to Harry Redknapp or Yobo, I say Amunike and Finidi get the nod after Rohr.

Who over looks students of Van Gaal for Student of Dave Moyes?

Subzero047:


This is Liverpool in the Champions league final against Tottenham

TheGoodJoe:


Why we did not have the shots in the first half is not just because of the organisation of the Argentines but the docile nature we played. We allowed them the time on the ball and failed to utilise the ball offensively when we had it. Because we chose to sit back. When we were ruthless, they found it difficult. Same in the World Cup. We went home because we chose to defend and get the result and it back fired.

Subzero047:


This is Liverpool in the Champions league final against Tottenham

Edopesin:


Replying to the bolded, We didn't allow them time on ball they were that good to hold the ball, they controlled the Midfield and attacked with purpose, when they lost possession they closed in on us that we couldn't keep the ball for long
They overlapped in the second half with more urgency to score more and their players were out of position and the ensuing counter was well utilised by our boys

Edopesin:


Anybody that saw that final will agree that after the first early goal Liverpool were constantly tracking backing and did not attack

this final no join bro

TheGoodJoe:


Klopp teams prefer to pressure their opponents into making a mistake high up the pitch and then, rapidly, as in the blink of an eye, regain possession and score a goal without even giving the rival player the time to blink.

The term 'Gegenpress' – meaning 'counter-press' – is also associated with Klopp and covers his idea of 'heavy metal football'.

The crux of the approach for Klopp's teams is that if you immediately lose the ball, you have to win it back instantly. This strategy involves a great deal of running and intense focus, with the defensive line played high and the players organised in packs in their hunt to regain possession of the ball.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/what-is-heavy-metal-football-how-has-jurgen-klopp-used-it-at/gvxzni0i7rne1enr3bayptwcr

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Note the term counter-press. They do not sit back for you to attack. That is not Klopp's philosophy.

Subzero047:


Is it the final against Madrid or the semi final against Bayern Munich

Subzero047:


How is that different from the way counter attacking teams like Madrid set up?

Relying on your opponents to give up the ball for you to score is it attacking or counter attacking?

Subzero047:


Is it the final against Madrid or the semi final against Bayern Munich

Subzero047:


Is it the final against Madrid or the semi final against Bayern Munich

Subzero047:


Is it the final against Madrid or the semi final against Bayern Munich

Subzero047:


Is it the final against Madrid or the semi final against Bayern Munich

TheGoodJoe:
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