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Emusan:
Are you then saying the Holy Spirit didn't know the things of God then?

Did your instrument know what is in your brain?
The holy spirit means Jehovah's active force to us Sir, so it's just Jehovah's instrument like a screwdriver, if Jehovah didn't mean to use it, it can't operate on it's own.
But if you've gotten a totally different opinion, go and make use of what you know Sir everyone is watching out to see the BENEFITS of your knowledge!

freshboi88:
Only people with common sense can reconcile this.

Let me help u

Peacefullove has a body and a spirit....right?

Is peacefullove two beings?..... Is your body one being and your spirit another being?......

If no, then why do u think God and God's Spirit are two beings.....can u see Ur foolishness.


According to 2 cor 2:10-11.....what a man knows his spirit knows.(because the man and his spirit is one). Same for God, what the Father knows, His Spirit knows( one being)

All earthly creatures have the breath of life (spirit) Sir! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

So it's just you and you alone, there is nothing when you die, you will return to dust and all your thoughts will vanish {Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} unless God wish you live again Sir!

Maximus69:
All earthly creatures have the breath of life (spirit) Sir! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

So it's just you and you alone, there is nothing when you die, you will return to dust and all your thoughts will vanish {Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} unless God wish you live again Sir!

C the way I quashed Ur lifeline of Holy Spirit is not God Nd doesn't know the day or the hour.

Is it not obvious to u tht there is something fundamentally wrong with the way u interprete scripture

freshboi88:
C the way I quashed Ur lifeline of Holy Spirit is not God Nd doesn't know the day or the hour.

Is it not obvious to u tht there is something fundamentally wrong with the way u interprete scripture

Go and make use of it out there Sir!

Jesus said "by their FRUIT" not "by their much arguments"

Jehovah's Witnesses are producing the FRUITS that's obvious to all!

Maximus69:
Did your instrument know what is in your brain?
The holy spirit means Jehovah's active force to us Sir, so it's just Jehovah's instrument like a screwdriver, if Jehovah didn't mean to use it, it can't operate on it's own.
But if you've gotten a totally different opinion, go and make use of what you know Sir everyone is watching out to see the BENEFITS of your knowledge!

See the nonsense coming from u. So how can an instrument search the depth of God. And know the thought of God

freshboi88:
See the nonsense coming from u. So how can an instrument search the depth of God. And know the thought of God

Good question!

We pray to Jehovah to help us with this instrument {Luke 11:13} this is what help us when reading to grasp the concept.

We are joyful when God's holy spirit finally link us with exactly what we need, just like the instrument, and we feel closer to our father through the understanding of his word! James 4:8

freshboi88:
Only people with common sense can reconcile this.

Let me help u

Peacefullove has a body and a spirit....right?

Is peacefullove two beings?..... Is your body one being and your spirit another being?......

If no, then why do u think God and God's Spirit are two beings.....can u see Ur foolishness.


According to 2 cor 2:10-11.....what a man knows his spirit knows.(because the man and his spirit is one). Same for God, what the Father knows, His Spirit knows( one being)

Am not two beings because my spirit is not a person. According to Trinity the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are ALL separate beings. Emusan , Your fellow is in a state of limbo

Your point on one being can only be valid. If the holy spirit is not a person. If it is , that's two persons man.

Maximus69:
Good question!

We pray to Jehovah to help us with this instrument {Luke 11:13} this is what help us when reading to grasp the concept.

We are joyful when God's holy spirit finally link us with exactly what we need, just like the instrument, and we feel closer to our father through the understanding of his word! James 4:8

Did u read what u typed, how does it relate to what I asked bout the holy spirit?.

U said the holy spirit is a tool, y even likened him to a screw driver(May God forgive u.).

Now the question is how can a screw driver search the mind of the mechanic ?

freshboi88:
Did u read what u typed, how does it relate to what I asked bout the holy spirit?.

U said the holy spirit is a tool, y even likened him to a screw driver(May God forgive u.).

Now the question is how can a screw driver search the mind of the mechanic ?

Forgive me for saying what i understood!

Well God is a SPIRIT not physical, so his instrument was designed to do so many things!

Emusan:
Ode...and animals are human too since they have blood.

Humans at Gen 5:2 are Creation that function with blood. That your blunder is on record man.

So Russell didn't know that Matt 4:10 was in his Bible before he worship Jesus along side of Jehovah

Russell didnt worship Jesus as God. Like you dull Trinitarians.

I still demand where he said Jesus Is Almighty God.!

So can you show us translations that used prostrate, bow down, for where it was talking about Jesus?

This is your figment of your deluded mind.



Show us how these translations rendered it when it's about Jesus Christ.



Jesus Christ.

John 9:38

Contemporary English Version
The man said, "Lord, I put my faith in you!" Then he worshiped Jesus.

Good News Translation
"I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.

Weymouth New Testament
"I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.


Young's Literal Translation
and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him

Where did He say He isn't OUR GOD in that verse?

"...And the Word was God"
"...To thy throne Oh God"

My God and YOUR GOD. - John 20:17

YOUR GOD.

Whom did he refer as my God and YOUR GOD ??

We can't have two Gods, So who is this OUR GOD ?

To worship someone means the person is your God.

Daniel is the God of Nebuchadnezzar ?

So which worship did Russell worship Jesus for if not as God?

Now that you can't find proof he regard Jesus as God, You are asking " IF "



Simply means He gave him respect.

Your polytheism tag is Fully found a lie

Again, why then did your demonic organization change the doctrine of worshipping of Jesus Christ and admitted they made error, if what Russell did was right?

Show me Russell's error in this regard .. I expected to see a man who worship Jesus as God like you dumb Trinitarians

The same Pharisees say Jesus claimed to be God, making Himself equal to God for calling Himself the Son of God...why do you think they will oppose Him when people worshipped Him?

They wanted to stone him for their accusation, So why won't they attack him if worship here meant what your deluded head is telling you ?

You have started your delusion to divert attention again...

It's clear from the quote that Divinity RUSSELL meant isn't Divine quality/character but Divine nature.

Yet he didnt believe Jesus was God Almighty ? Are you okay at all ?

If you're a God then good for you.

Of course the 'a' makes a difference that's why you people added it in the first place, that's why you'll continue to deny Jesus as God.



And you're also a God which means you and Jesus Christ are the same.

Ye are Gods - Yahweh says .

But all of us including Jesus have ONE GOD, THE FATHER OF ALL - Eph 4:6

Peacefullove:
Am not two beings because my spirit is not a person. According to Trinity the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are ALL separate beings. Emusan , Your fellow is in a state of limbo

Your point on one being can only be valid. If the holy spirit is not a person. If it is , that's two persons man.

Well like I said only a man with divine wisdom can make sense of it.

2 cor 2:11: For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them?

If ur spirit is capable of knowledge according to the scripture, what else would u refer to it as if not a being?

Maximus69:
Forgive me for saying what i understood!

Well God is a SPIRIT not physical, so his instrument was designed to do so many things!

So God is a Spirit, and yet the Spirit of God is an instrument........where is Ur sense nah

freshboi88:
Well like I said only a man with divine wisdom can make sense of it.

2 cor 2:11: For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them?

If ur spirit is capable of knowledge according to the scripture, what else would u refer to it as if not a being?

Guy if its a being , Jesus LIED ... Listen and listen carefully , Jesus LIED .

So the choice is yours . its like you are even confuse earlier you said not separate being, now you are saying separate . the truth of this matter we dey settle be say , If holy spirit is a being . Jesus LIED

Peacefullove:
Guy if its a being , Jesus LIED ... Listen and listen carefully , Jesus LIED .

So the choice is yours . its like you are even confuse earlier you said not separate being, now you are saying separate . the truth of this matter we dey settle be say , If holy spirit is a being . Jesus LIED

There is no confusion, if u feel confused then u r the problem. C how Corinthians described u.

13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.

14The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit

You cannot understand how two separate beings can be one. U do not even have an understanding of urself.

If your spirit is capable of acquiring knowledge then that's way more than a force.

The bible makes it clear, a person's spirit knows what the person knows. Here a clear distinction is made bw the person and his spirit. However the person and his spirit are one not 2. Isn't God wonderful?

Paul confirms this in acts of the apostle

Acts 5:3, 4, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? . . . You have not lied to men but to God‘”

Paul confirmed that Lying to the Holy Spirit is Lying to God.

First question is can u lie to an instrument?....

If Paul feels that the holy Spirit was been lied to, doesn't it mean that Paul didn't see the Holy Spirit as a force or an instrument ?

Y is lying to the holy spirit equal to lying to God?


Answer these questions to ease u of Ur brainwashing

freshboi88:
There is no confusion, if u feel confused then u r the problem. C how Corinthians described u.

13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.

14The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit

You cannot understand how two separate beings can be one. U do not even have an understanding of urself.

If your spirit is capable of acquiring knowledge then that's way more than a force.

The bible makes it clear, a person's spirit knows what the person knows. Here a clear distinction is made bw the person and his spirit. However the person and his spirit are one not 2. Isn't God wonderful?

Paul confirms this in acts of the apostle

Acts 5:3, 4, “why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? . . . You have not lied to men but to God‘”

Paul confirmed that Lying to the Holy Spirit is Lying to God.

First question is can u lie to an instrument?....

If Paul feels that the holy Spirit was been lied to, doesn't it mean that Paul didn't see the Holy Spirit as a force or an instrument ?

Y is lying to the holy spirit equal to lying to God?


Answer these questions to ease u of Ur brainwashing

I told you earlier that a mans spirit is not a person. But force of life . just as animal spirit is just a force. Jesus spirit return to God the day he died. But that's NOT HIM.

That wronged your idea of Two persons in one. Unless you agree holy spirit is also a force/power .


You admitted at Bold that Father and Spirit are TWO SEPARATE PERSONS!!! Which led to the question : Is Jesus a Liar ?

Jesus says " Father " , Is holy spirit the Father ?

Peacefullove:
I told you earlier that a mans spirit is not a person. But force of life . just as animal spirit is just a force. Jesus spirit return to God the day he died. But that's NOT HIM.

That wronged your idea of Two persons in one. Unless you agree holy spirit is also a force/power .


You admitted at Bold that Father and Spirit are TWO SEPARATE PERSONS!!! Which led to the question : Is Jesus a Liar ?

Jesus says " Father " , Is holy spirit the Father ?

You preach what the bible didn't say. God forgive u. Now let's see what the bible teaches.

1 Peter 3: 18Christ sufferedd for our sins once for all time. He never sinned, but he died for sinners to bring you safely home to God. He suffered physical death, but he was raised to life in the Spirit.e

19 So he went and preached to the spirits in prison— 20those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.

The Spirit of Jesus preached to spirits in prison. C how this verse ridicules Ur life force gibberish.........

So while d body was lying in the grave, the spirit was alive on its own, conscious, preaching and teaching.

It must be really cumbersome been a JW having to carry all these lies on your head.

Now can a force teach.

If Jesus Spirit returned to God as u said, which Spirit went to preach to spirits in prison

Peacefullove:
Humans at Gen 5:2 are Creation that function with blood. That your blunder is on record man.



Russell didnt worship Jesus as God. Like you dull Trinitarians.

I still demand where he said Jesus Is Almighty God.!



John 9:38

Contemporary English Version
The man said, "Lord, I put my faith in you!" Then he worshiped Jesus.

Good News Translation
"I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.

Weymouth New Testament
"I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.


Young's Literal Translation
and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him




My God and YOUR GOD. - John 20:17

YOUR GOD.

Whom did he refer as my God and YOUR GOD ??

We can't have two Gods, So who is this OUR GOD ?


Daniel is the God of Nebuchadnezzar ?



Now that you can't find proof he regard Jesus as God, You are asking " IF "



Simply means He gave him respect.

Your polytheism tag is Fully found a lie



Show me Russell's error in this regard .. I expected to see a man who worship Jesus as God like you dumb Trinitarians



They wanted to stone him for their accusation, So why won't they attack him if worship here meant what your deluded head is telling you ?



Yet he didnt believe Jesus was God Almighty ? Are you okay at all ?



Ye are Gods - Yahweh says .

But all of us including Jesus have ONE GOD, THE FATHER OF ALL - Eph 4:6

Peacefullove: Who is that other God Russell worship ? I demand an answer .

Emusan Jesus Christ.

Achorladey: @Emusan watch out for the above when RESPONDING the alias JESUS CLEARLY SUPPORT IDOLATRY as cornered it after demanding for answer.

Peacefullove: Russell didn't worship Jesus as God. Like you dull Trinitarians.

Achorladey: After Emusan provided the answer you CORNERED still went ahead to ask and REPHRASE the QUESTION see below.....

Peacefullove: I still demand where he said Jesus Is Almighty God.

Achorladey: placing a mighty God besides an ALMIGHTY GOD is not IDOLATRY enough. You want two ALMIGHTY GOD beside each other to confirm your JESUS CLEARLY SUPPORT IDOLATRY.

freshboi88:
So God is a Spirit, and yet the Spirit of God is an instrument........where is Ur sense nah

My Master, Lord and King (Jesus) used so many physical (visible) things as illustrations to help his listeners grasp the spiritual (invisible)!

You are a human, how can you grasp things of the spirit that you can't see if we're not using what you can see to illustrate it? John 3:12

Maximus69:
My Master, Lord and King (Jesus) used so many physical (visible) things as illustrations to help his listeners grasp the spiritual (invisible)!

You are a human, how can you grasp things of the spirit that you can't see if we're not using what you can see to illustrate it? John 3:12

Maximus69 theology

God is a spirit

Gods Spirit is an instrument

Therefore God is an instrument...........

Maximus69 says God is an instrument o....

Peacefullove:
Personification. You should examine why its called " It " as well . and also does holy spirit know the day and hour ?

U were running Ur mouth like a tap that the human eyes cannot see the spiritual. But when I asked u in what form the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary...that was the end of tht argument......
U r a joke!!!!!

freshboi88:
Maximus69 theology

God is a spirit

The scriptures confirmed! John 4:24

Gods Spirit is an instrument

That's where you misunderstood me Sir,

Now listen, when someone says "freshboi88 slapped or kicked him" any sane individual will know that you either used your hand in slapping or your foot in kicking, of course the accusation will sound preposterous if you're paralyzed!
So the holy spirit (God's active force) is what he uses to accomplish his own purposes sir just as you will make use of your own body parts to accomplish yours!

Therefore God is an instrument...........

Maximus69 says God is an instrument o....

No Sir it's you that didn't understand me, in my former religion the arm used in picking a stolen item will be amputated, so the thief will go scot-free after his accused body part has been punished!

Maximus69:
The scriptures confirmed! John 4:24



That's where you misunderstood me Sir,

Now listen, when someone says "freshboi88 slapped or kicked him" any sane individual will know that you either used your hand in slapping or your foot in kicking, of course the accusation will sound preposterous if you're paralyzed!
So the holy spirit (God's active force) is what he uses to accomplish his own purposes sir just as you will make use of your own body parts to accomplish yours!

No Sir it's you that didn't understand me, in my former religion the arm used in picking a stolen item will be amputated, so the thief will go scot-free after his accused body part has been punished!

What u have not been able to reconcile is how :

1. How can Gods force speak?

2. How can he be lied to?

3. How he is able to teach

4. How he is able to feel aggrieved?

5. How he is able to set apart Paul and Barnabas for work he has called them to do.

6. How he can shut Paul from speaking in Asia.

Answer these questions......let's c how delusional u r

freshboi88:
What u have not been able to reconcile is how :

1. How can Gods force speak?

2. How can he be lied to?

3. How he is able to teach

4. How he is able to feel aggrieved?

5. How he is able to set apart Paul and Barnabas for work he has called them to do.

6. How he can shut Paul from speaking in Asia.

Answer these questions......let's c how delusional u r

You should have asked yourself just one question:-

Why worrying yourself because of the one you yourself have concluded is delusional?

Haba, Jehovah's Witnesses have the best intellect ever!

"once we notice you're delusional, we are to leave you in peace and switch swiftly to the next door" Matthew 10:13

But you guys are saying you're followers of the wonderful counselor who initiated that idea, yet you will continue asking questions aggressively, and eagerly anticipating a response from the same person you have concluded is delusional!

Maximus69:
You should have asked yourself just one question:-

Why worrying yourself because of the one you yourself have concluded is delusional?

Haba, Jehovah's Witnesses have the best intellect ever!

"once we notice you're delusional, we are to leave you in peace and switch swiftly to the next door" Matthew 10:13

But you guys are saying you're followers of the wonderful counselor who initiated that idea, yet you will continue asking questions aggressively expecting the same person you have concluded is delusional to answer you!

If this is ur answers to my questions, then i really put u in an incomfortable position.

freshboi88:
If this is ur answers to my questions, then i really put u in an incomfortable position.

Please Sir, define a person who is eagerly anticipating a response from a deluded individual!

Maximus69:
Please Sir, define a person who is eagerly anticipating a response from a deluded individual!

What u have not been able to reconcile is how :

1. How can Gods force speak?

2. How can he be lied to?

3. How he is able to teach

4. How he is able to feel aggrieved?

5. How he is able to set apart Paul and Barnabas for work he has called them to do.

6. How he can shut Paul from speaking in Asia.

Answer these questions......let's c how delusional u r.


Are u scared to answer these questions?

freshboi88:
What u have not been able to reconcile is how :

1. How can Gods force speak?

2. How can he be lied to?

3. How he is able to teach

4. How he is able to feel aggrieved?

5. How he is able to set apart Paul and Barnabas for work he has called them to do.

6. How he can shut Paul from speaking in Asia.

Answer these questions......let's c how delusional u r.


Are u scared to answer these questions?

@ bolded is a sign of grievances Sir!

Jesus ordered us not to continue discussing with someone who is irritated by what we're saying! Matthew 10:13 compare to Proverbs 17:14

Let's settle that first before further discuss, why do you so much anticipate the response from someone whom you yourself said is deluded Sir?

Maximus69:
@ bolded is a sign of grievances Sir!

Jesus ordered us not to continue discussing with someone who is irritated by what we're saying! Matthew 10:13 compare to Proverbs 17:14

Let's settle that first before further discuss, why do you so much anticipate the response from someone whom you yourself said is deluded Sir?

Hmmmmmmmm of course they have no business with this wonderful counselor, this one has nothing to offer!
Because Jesus sent his own followers out to go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not looking for ways to argue with someone they already knew to be delusional!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm of course they have no business with this wonderful counselor, this one has nothing to offer!
Because Jesus sent his own followers out to go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not looking for ways to argue with someone they already knew to be delusional!

I wonder o!

freshboi88 said someone is delusional yet he is restless and eagerly anticipating the response of the so called deluded!

Maximus69:
@ bolded is a sign of grievances Sir!

Jesus ordered us not to continue discussing with someone who is irritated by what we're saying! Matthew 10:13 compare to Proverbs 17:14

Let's settle that first before further discuss, why do you so much anticipate the response from someone whom you yourself said is deluded Sir?

I can feel aggrieved,. Thts a sign that I am a person. The Holy Spirit can also feel aggrieved, isn't that a sign that he is a being too?

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm of course they have no business with this wonderful counselor, this one has nothing to offer!
Because Jesus sent his own followers out to go in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not looking for ways to argue with someone they already knew to be delusional!

It's funny how u and Ur kind have to answers to the questions I listed




What u have not been able to reconcile is how :

1. How can Gods force speak?

2. How can he be lied to?

3. How he is able to teach

4. How he is able to feel aggrieved?

5. How he is able to set apart Paul and Barnabas for work he has called them to do.

6. How he can shut Paul from speaking in Asia.

Answer these questions......let's c how delusional u r.

How can a force do these things?

freshboi88:
I can feel aggrieved,. Thts a sign that I am a person. The Holy Spirit can also feel aggrieved, isn't that a sign that he is a being too?

NO!
God's holy spirit is attracted by faith and on the other hand could also be irritated by lack of faith.

Because it's God himself that's gives it out to faithful people! Luke 11:13

It's this same active force (holy spirit) that's controlling all the natural elements that's sustaining life on planet earth! Genesis 6:3