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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:00am On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:You have the answer to Ur delusion in your statement. How can a force feel irritated......one has to be living to express emotions |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 11:01am On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:My instrument isn't part of myself. So is Jehovah active force a separate being/thing/from God Himself right? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:12am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:You're not interrogating a common criminal! Both of you have the right to choose whatever you will believe. It doesn't speak well of you insulting someone all simply because he is chatting with you based on what he believes in his mind! I think people discuss what they have in mind like FAITH with you out of respect and regard for you as a person. So disrespecting them and expecting them to continue answering your questions, sounds somehow! 1Peter 3:15 ![]() I think you need to be respectful in discussing with someone who is ready to share his time with you on what he holds so dear 'his Faith', this is the reason why most so called Pastors irritates their audience in the north leading to disputes! Matthew 10:16 ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:25am On May 30, 2020 |
Emusan:That's exactly my former religious views! They will say the man never intended stealing the item but your hand did" so they'll amputate that hand and set the thief to go scot-free! ![]() They'll say he never intended raping the victim but his manhood did therefore they'll amputate the organ so the rapist is free to go! ![]() So is Jehovah active force a separate being/thing/from God Himself right?I believe Jesus is God's son NOT Josephs because Mary God pregnant through God's holy spirit NOT through sex with Joseph! So God's ACTIVE FORCE means his means of getting things done! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:28am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:So there's no reason been aggrieved over what someone else believes, after all God will judge unbelievers, don't you think so? ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:29am On May 30, 2020 |
TATIME:Answer question u dey fear.......Kai!!!!....it's not easy been a JW, too many lies to defend |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:35am On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:The point Ur brain is too dull to comprehend is how this Force can speak? set assignment for people?, can be lied to ? Can even be sinned against....sin against the Holy Spirit can never be forgiven(nah Jesus talk am) Can be aggrieved? Can stop Paul from preaching in Asia? Can teach? Dnt be a Zombie....and try to run away from things u can't comprehend because u have been brainwashed to think in a certain way. How can a force do all these things and have these xracteristics? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:37am On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:When we started this thread, Una mouth dey sharp, even peacefullove has run away when faced with the truth. Where are Ur bible verses to explain how the Holy Spirit can do all these things |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 11:42am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Luke 23:46 "And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMIT MY SPIRIT." Having said this, He breathed His last." NASB His Spirit returned to the Father. After ressurection , he said. John 20:17 I ( Jesus ) have not Yet ascended to my Father. The spirit that returned is not Jesus. Clear ! The point that spring up is: Since Jesus Spirit Is not a person, Do you agree Gods spirit is also not a person ?? If Gods spirit is a separate person as the Trinity teach , Third person, Do you admit it means two persons Know the Day and hour ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 11:45am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Another problem with the bold : Does this not prove holy spirit is Greater than Jesus in authority if it were a person ? Deal with it! |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 11:48am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Holy spirit is not the Father . they are different persons according to Trinity not one same person , So did Jesus lied only the Father knows. ?? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:49am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:You're not asking questions Sir! You are insulting people and at the same time anticipating their response as if they owe you any! ![]() Go and try that in the north and see how easy you'll win souls for you TRINITY Jesus! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:50am On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Trash!!!...maybe in Ur mind only. The point here is Holy Spirit is a person. One a living being can exhibit these xteristics. Only a living being can talk, can express emotions, can speak, can teach, can be sinned against. If the Holy Spirit is not a living being how can he exhibit these xteristics?. None of u can answer these questions....what a shame!!!!!!! JW has been defeated....sorry ehn, u guys lost. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 11:51am On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:You first started with Mr fully human flesh and blood, now it's Mr fully human flesh and bones What is your problem in the first place? Why are you so confused and trying to drag people into your confusion? John 9:38Was this only the place the word "worship" was used for Christ? Show us other place and how the same translations put it. My God and YOUR GOD. - John 20:17Yes! And that's what make Russell and his team an idolater because they have two Gods But Jesus is your God "...and the word was God" "Thy throne Oh God... " Daniel is the God of Nebuchadnezzar?Always off point Did worship someone or things make them your God or not? Russell didnt worship Jesus as God. Like you dull Trinitarians.So you know he only gave him RESPECT yet you first claimed he was mislead by TRANSLATIONS and what they (Russell and his team) are doing by worshipping Jesus is wrong, which isn't a sin since the Bible says whatever you don't know isn't a sin. Russell was mislead by translations and given Jesus respect wrongfully. Then a reasonable question to ask is while then did watchtower have to change their doctrines if what RUSSELL and his team did were just given respect to Jesus Christ I have to end it up here because it's soo shameful that your lying mouth doesn't have any dignity. See the pic attached below They wanted to stone him for their accusation, So why won't they attack him if worship here meant what your deluded head is telling you ?
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| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:54am On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:Excuse not to answer my questions because u have no answers. I guess u spent the whole night going through watch tower publications looking for answers but couldn't find. So you result to me been insultive, I guess insults just started on the thread abi. Sorry u, u lost to superior arguement and the truth. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 11:55am On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Just meditate on the bolded Sir! This same BRAINWASHED are the ones zealously preaching and industriously teaching people globally! ![]() Now it's you who is not brainwashed that's crying day and night because your cohorts can't beat the industriousness of the ones you referred to as BRAINWASHED. Ó mà seo! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 11:58am On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:This is the only thing u r left with. U hve gone back to this.....u already conquered this arguement. Whatever the Father knows, the spirit knows because the spirit searches the depth of the Father and knows his thoughts.....(no be me talk am, nah bible talk am) So keep fooling urself |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 12:00pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Just apologize due to your lack of respect for people you wish to hear their views on what they holds so dear "FAITH"! Do so and let's continue chatting as friendly neighbours over what you and i believe or you soothe yourself. No wahala! ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Emusan(m): 12:00pm On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:Off point! My instrument isn't part of myself, you can tell me any of my instrument you mean! I believe Jesus is God's son NOT Josephs because Mary God pregnant through God's holy spirit NOT through sex with Joseph!So it's a separate THING from Jehovah, right? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:03pm On May 30, 2020 |
Emusan:Humans at Genesis 5:2 are creatures with blood , Not just Flesh and Bones. Was this only the place the word "worship" was used for Christ?That is enough prove. Yes! And that's what make Russell and his team an idolater because they have two GodsNowhere did he claimed Jesus is His God. You can keep that lie But Jesus is your GodWhere is " YOUR " in the above ?? Its like something is doing your Brain John 20:17 says " YOUR GOD " not Just God. When you have where Jesus is called YOUR God or OUR God. Quote me, I dare you won't find any Always off pointAnd that Make Daniel the God of Nebuchadnezzar . So ? If Daniel didnt become the God of Nebuchadnezzar for accepting Worship, then worship here meant a different sense. Same with Russell who never claimed Jesus is his God. So you know he only gave him RESPECT yet you first claimed he was mislead by TRANSLATIONS and worshipped Jesus unknownly, which isn't a sin since the Bible says whatever you don't know isn't a sin.Brainwashed . its not Ruseel that's the problem. He didnt say Jesus is his God. Its the Fact that the word worship should actually be reserved solely for OUR GOD. And not anyone else , not even Jesus. I have to end it up here because it's soo shameful that your lying mouth doesn't have any dignity.If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God . when He never claimed that . he won't have used it. That's my point. Hence he didnt know it will confuse your likes to use that word or else Folks with small thinking like you will misinterpret. Record never said he refer to Jesus as His God. That alone kill your points instantly. |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:04pm On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:Even the devil can preach nah, the devil can quote scripture. The devil uses scripture to deceive people like he tried to do with Jesus, quoting scripture for him in the temptations of Jesus. But Jesus having superior knowledge of scripture,cos he himself is the word of God. He is scripture himself defeated satan with the same scipture. Thts d same way u pple go about deceiving pple with scripture like Ur father the devil. But in this thread, u have all been defeated with superior knowledge of scripture. Now go and wail cos this defeat is heavy on your hearts |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:05pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:And Jesus said ONLY one person, The Father knows . Freshboi88 says Two persons. Who is lyinngggggggggg ?? ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:07pm On May 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:The point Ur brain is too dull to comprehend is how this Force can speak? set assignment for people?, can be lied to ? Can even be sinned against....sin against the Holy Spirit can never be forgiven(nah Jesus talk am) Can be aggrieved? Can stop Paul from preaching in Asia? Can teach? I can see these questions are tormenting you. I will keep the question in your face so the readers can c u have no answer to them |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:08pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Dont forget there is another issue on ground, Holy spirit as a person HAS FAR Authority than Jesus Christ , Remember Sin against Jesus can be forgiven, But holy spirit can't ?? Do u accept Jesus is actually the third person of trinity ,?? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:09pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:Holy spirit as a person has Far more authority than Jesus Christ ? @bold |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:11pm On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Hahahaha.....Jesus was not wrong, neither am I, that's because a person and his spirit despite been distinct are one |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:12pm On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:How does the bold correspond to what u put up there |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by freshboi88(op): 12:15pm On May 30, 2020 |
Peacefullove:Explain how sin against the holy spirit cannot be forgiven translates to authority |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Barristter07: 12:17pm On May 30, 2020 |
Emusan:with emphasis on Your and Our. Show me where Jesus is Called OUR God ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:26pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:1Samuel 2:25 " If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him: but if a man sin against the LORD, who shall intreat for him?" KJV Who has more authority in the above ? Then if sin against holy spirit has more weight than Sin against Jesus , who has more authority ?? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Peacefullove: 12:32pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:I already showed you a man and his spirit are one because the spirit itself is not a separate person but force or breath of life . I cited the example of Jesus . But to claim the spirit of man is a person, means Man and his spirit are Two persons. Trinity is defined as three persons . So u have to deal with this. Are you saying Father and holy spirit are one person rendering one of them as force ? |
| Re: Jehovah Witness, Did Jesus Create Jesus? by Nobody: 12:47pm On May 30, 2020 |
freshboi88:It's your questions Sir! Galatians 6:5 Not others, so if truthfully you want answers tender your apology! ![]() |
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