Sedonxavi:
You have proved and convinced people why Igbo will never produced Nigeria president

You can lament to high heaven, you yorubas won't vote Ibo, you voted against GEJ a SSner all because you greedily want power. The rest of the south do not trust you because of your greed so forget their votes. Unfortunately no southern president have ever become president without majority southern vote which a yorubaman can never get.

It effectively means that yoruba cannot be president in the nearest future, you are pariahs in the south and the north will not vote a 'kaffir' yoruba over their brother.

Let's assume that the Government want to listen to you and implement all that you have just said and things happen like this

1) At the APC convention in Jan,2023; President Jubril Al-Sudani beg El-Rufai, Tinubu, Osinbajo, Prof Zulum and other aspirants to withdraw from the race which they agree.

2) President Jubril Al-Sudani then ask Dr Ogbonnaya Onuh to be given the APC presidential ticket to make the S/East happy.

3) All the earlier aspirants who have spent their money, time, energy on APC, hoping to reap their investments grumble but ,out of respect for Jubril, they keep quiet and everyone depart to their States.

4) All the earlier aspirants stop participating in the APC campaigns

5) The PDP quickly give Atiku their presidential ticket.

6) On the election day, it is Atiku/PDP Vs Onu/APC

7) And the PDP wins



What do you suggest we should do to prevent such a scenerio?

Heavensent01:
as much as I detest the hates of Igbo to other tribe and religion, I still believe it would be unjustly if they're not elected/allow to taste govt in 2023



I'm saying it constructively not to pleased anybody with my post, Igbo have no business being called Nigerian if they're not elected as Nigeria president in 2023


in other phrase, Igbo politicians must all come out to fight for this post, Igbo elites must also caution their kinsmen against hate speech.


Igbo generally must move above the past and focus on their goals


Igbo presidency in 2023 or you allow these people to exit the project called Nigeria. with the spirit of oneness I repeat, Igbo have no business being called Nigerian if they're not allow to rule this country in 2023

Great!





So what is the way forward sir?

AhoadaRivers:


You can lament to high heaven, you yorubas won't vote Ibo, you voted against GEJ a SSner all because you greedily want power. The rest of the south do not trust you because of your greed so forget their votes. Unfortunately no southern president have ever become president without majority southern vote which a yorubaman can never get.

It effectively means that yoruba cannot be president in the nearest future, you are pariahs in the south and the north will not vote a 'kaffir' yoruba over their brother.

oyatz:
How sir?

Since 1966 till now igbos have never ruled nigeria
In this democracy that started in 1999 yorubas have ruled for 8 years under OBJ and we have 3 regions in the south : SW, SE, SS

SW = 8 years = OBJ
SS = 5 years = Jonathan
SE = nothing

So for fairness purpose and for southern unity he should as the political leader of the yorubas support a SE person instead of trying to spoil the soup by advocating for another Yoruba.
How do you want the igbos to feel

oyatz:
Let's assume that the Government want to listen to you and implement all that you have just said and things happen like this

1) At the APC convention in Jan,2023; President Jubril Al-Sudani beg El-Rufai, Tinubu, Osinbajo, Prof Zulum and other aspirants to withdraw from the race which they agree.

2) President Jubril Al-Sudani then ask Dr Ogbonnaya Onuh to be given the APC presidential ticket to make the S/East happy.

3) All the earlier aspirants who have spent their money, time, energy on APC, hoping to reap their investments grumble but ,out of respect for Jubril, they keep quiet and everyone depart to their States.

4) All the earlier aspirants stop participating in the APC campaigns

5) The PDP quickly give Atiku their presidential ticket.

6) On the election day, it is Atiku/PDP Vs Onu/APC

7) And the PDP wins



What do you suggest we should do to prevent such a scenerio?

if we are talking about oneness, of course I'm not talking about APC or PDP talk alone, I'm talking about Nigeria and in my post you read where I stated it that Igbo politicians must come out to fight for this post

So Tinubu really wants to be President! Ahan, this man is funny sha

Let's assume that Tinubu doesn't contest in 2023.


How will this translate to Igbo presidency sir?

Do you just believe that Tinubu's not contesting automatically translate into Igbo presidency?

Joshmodest:
All this pro tinubu above me wuld wail come 2023 .....coss the northern APC would rather elect buba galadima than the landlord of the west !!!
Any random northerner would beat tinubu hands down , he thinks following buhari upandan amounts to support from the north ...
Tinubu can only become president of bourdillion !!

oyatz:
Great!





So what is the way forward sir?

You tell us, what do you have in mind?

Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen, he has the right to seek for any elective position in his Country.

Why don't you too aspire to be a President?

Kweensavvy:
So Tinubu really wants to be President! Ahan, this man is funny sha

My own ambition is that by 2023, I will be exporting my products to the USA, UK and Canada Insha Allah!

AhoadaRivers:


You tell us, what do you have in mind?

Hmn, but you know that it's not every fight that you can win and you may not win all the time.

If after fighting for the post but they don't win, what are we going to do sir?

Heavensent01:



if we are talking about oneness, of course I'm not talking about APC or PDP talk alone, I'm talking about Nigeria and in my post you read where I stated it that Igbo politicians must come out to fight for this post

oyatz:
My own ambition is that by 2023, I will be exporting my products to the USA, UK and Canada Insha Allah!

Good ambition, bon chance!

Are you suggesting that Tinubu, a private citizen is the cause of all these?



Let's assume that all the people who have shown openly the greatest hatred for Tinubu online and offline ask him not to contest in 2023 and he decides to comply in order to make them happy. . .how does this decision automatically translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023 sir?

bigfish3k:

Since 1966 till now igbos have never ruled nigeria
In this democracy that started in 1999 yorubas have ruled for 8 years under OBJ and we have 3 regions in the south : SW, SE, SS

SW = 8 years = OBJ
SS = 5 years = Jonathan
SE = nothing

So for fairness purpose and for southern unity he should as the political leader of the yorubas support a SE person instead of trying to spoil the soup by advocating for another Yoruba.
How do you want the igbos to feel

And I also hope to become president very soon.

If I decide to contest in 2023 and just one million Nairalanders can pledge their dependable support and we start mobilizing for 6months such that each of the one million Nairalanders is able to convince additional 10 voters, that is 11 million votes on lockdown, I can win the election.

I have so many great ideas that can propel Nigeria into a first world country.

AhoadaRivers:


Good ambition, bon chance!

we know!!!

oyatz:
Are you suggesting that Tinubu, a private citizen is the cause of all these?



Let's assume that all the people who have shown openly the greatest hatred for Tinubu online and offline ask him not to contest in 2023 and he decides to comply in order to make them happy. . .how does this decision automatically translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023 sir?

He is your political leader whether private or not and you people listen to him
If he loves southern unity he should support an Igbo man.
If he doesn't contest and support an igbo man that means the three southern regions are now united then we can in a united form ask for support from the north since its on rotation basis and the turn of the south the north will oblige

oyatz:
And I also hope to become president very soon.

If I decide to contest in 2023 and just one million Nairalanders can pledge their dependable support and we start mobilizing for 6months such that each of the one million Nairalanders is able to convince additional 10 voters, that is 11 million votes on lockdown, I can win the election.

I have so many great ideas that can propel Nigeria into a first world country.

I would have loved you to win and become president with your bright ideas but this is nigeria and ethnicity is a huge factor here as you are yoruba.

There is a 'turn-by-turn' zoning system which makes your chances very slim as a yoruba since a yoruba have previously ruled for 8 years and another is the VP whose 8 year term will elapse in 2023.

I would urge you to support the winner in 2023 who is definitely not going to be yoruba and present your proposal to him for consideration.

Bon chancé.

Kweensavvy:
So Tinubu really wants to be President! Ahan, this man is funny sha

Quote a source where Tinubu said he want to b President .

GMBuhari:
First, I don't need two accounts, i rarely even come online because of some clowns who turned this place into dustbin

Second, if i did have two accounts , why would i use one to make derogatory remarks and the other to applaud ? that's mental imbalance and it's psychotic if there are people who really do that on this forum


Finally glad you could clear that up , like i said , i am a Buharist , i do not hate this government to a level of blackmailing, if they do wrong, we make threads about it , not insult or blackmail


Peace

I was mentioned. what are you guys on about?
I really remember how people assumed that genbuhari3 was my alternate account. It's as if any variation of my moniker must automatically be owned by me; forgetting that there's is nothing stopping anybody registering a moniker similar to mine.

I really weep web I read ppl's comment here on Maitland. The same set of old cronies that plunged this nation In this mess we found ourselves is the same folks most of us are rooting foolishly for.

Tinubu/Atiku and the rest, and the worst part of it is that this chest beating is coming From young intellectuals. Who did this to us Like why are we really this short sighted with short memory.

I've really tried not to loose hope on this country but the future is not looking promising and habitable with this kinda young ppl with this depraved mentality��

I really weep wen I read ppl's comment here on Nairaland. The same set of old cronies that plunged this nation In this mess we found ourselves is the same folks most of us are rooting foolishly for.

Tinubu/Atiku and the rest, and the worst part of it is that this chest beating is coming From young intellectuals. Who did this to us Like why are we really this short sighted with short memory.

I've really tried not to loose hope on this country but the future is not looking promising and habitable with this kinda young ppl with this depraved mentality��

AhoadaRivers:


Both PDP and APC are registered NATIONAL political parties, whether you voted OBJ or not, it changes nothing. It is record that yorubas have taken their turn. The country does not belong to you alone and other tribes do not exist at your pleasure. yoruba have taken their turn and that is established.

Look for an Ibo man in APC and vote for him, even if he wins without Ibos '5%' votes, it will be established that Ibo have taken their share in the zoning arrangement as you have in the OBJ case. When next it comes south, yoruba can have a strong argument for the presidency. Others southerners are not fo0ls.

Can you pls show me the drafted constitutional line where Igbo and Yoruba agreed of zoning ??

anigbajumo:


Can you pls show me the drafted constitutional line where Igbo and Yoruba agreed of zoning ??

Can you show me anywhere it is written yoruba should take another turn when it comes south?

AhoadaRivers:


Can you show me anywhere it is written yoruba should take another turn when it comes south?

Yoruba has already worked for it and the strategy on ground is in their court, technically they av paid their dues. You voted PDP twice with with block votes in the last 8 yrs and expecting APC to give u presidential ticket, bro it can NEVER happen. .........

anigbajumo:


Yoruba has already worked for it and the strategy on ground is in their court, technically they av paid their dues. You voted PDP twice with with block votes in the last 8 yrs and expecting APC to give u presidential ticket, bro it can NEVER happen. .........

yoruba didn't work for anything, you collected 8 years from PDP and now want to collect another 8 years from APC, thinking you are smart. That's political greed and it fuels discontent and ethnic wars in many countries. You are not the only tribe in nigeria.

Thankfully you can't make yourselves president. So it will not happen. You MUST wait for your turn..

AhoadaRivers:


yoruba didn't work for anything, you collected 8 years from PDP and now want to collect another 8 years from APC, thinking you are smart. That's political greed and it fuels discontent and ethnic wars in many countries. You are not the only tribe in nigeria.

Thankfully you can't make yourselves president. So it will not happen. You MUST wait for your turn..

When it comes to being intelligent and political strategic planning give it to the Yorubas, Politics is not a game of emotion, you only achieve nothing wen u put emotion into play in politics. You plan, You analyse and speculate then u set the machinery in motion to finalise the work for you. When SE and SS blindly tossed all ur coin in the same slot who give a damn?? had it been ur permutation works out that will be ur benefit but it failed, just face the consequences withh joy....

anigbajumo:


When it comes to being intelligent and political strategic planning give it to the Yorubas, Politics is not a game of emotion, you only achieve nothing wen u put emotion into play in politics. You plan, You analyse and speculate then u set the machinery in motion to finalise the work for you. When SE and SS blindly tossed all ur coin in the same slot who give a damn?? had it been ur permutation works out that will be ur benefit but it failed, just face the consequences withh joy....

yorubas are so 'strategic and intelligent' yet they can't make themselves president, Awolowo failed, MKO failed in their bid.

You are so intelligent, you started learning how to win elections in 2015 since 1950s. After more than 50 years of nationhood and several national elections?
So much for 'strategy and intelligence'. You want to teach politics to others who have voted more succesfully than you've done? You win one or two election in 2015 and 2019 after many decades,suddenly you are now professors of electoral success? Laughable!

Why didn't you add the usual 'We yorubas are sophisticated'. We all saw how you claimed to be 'sophisticated' for several years until internet came around and you got your utopian bubble bursted.

Funny chest-pounding chimps.

AhoadaRivers:


You can lament to high heaven, you yorubas won't vote Ibo, you voted against GEJ a SSner all because you greedily want power. The rest of the south do not trust you because of your greed so forget their votes. Unfortunately no southern president have ever become president without majority southern vote which a yorubaman can never get.

It effectively means that yoruba cannot be president in the nearest future, you are pariahs in the south and the north will not vote a 'kaffir' yoruba over their brother.

Sorry say igbos won’t vote yoruba
Edos and other minorities will vote yoruba
Sorry you are looking to punish yoruba for the same thing you want to reward Fulani for doing the same thing

And north will vote that “kafir”

AhoadaRivers:


yorubas are so 'strategic and intelligent' yet they can't make themselves president, Awolowo failed, MKO failed in their bid.

You are so intelligent, you started learning how to win elections in 2015 since 1950s. After more than 50 years of nationhood and several national elections?
So much for 'strategy and intelligence'. You want to teach politics to others who have voted more succesfully than you've done? You win one or two election in 2015 and 2019 after many decades,suddenly you are now professors of electoral success? Laughable!

Why didn't you add the usual 'We yorubas are sophisticated'. We all saw how you claimed to be 'sophisticated' for several years until internet came around and you got your utopian bubble bursted.

Funny chest-pounding chimps.

But they got an Obasanjo
Installed a Yardua
Installed a Jonathan
Sacked a Jonathan
Installed a Buhari
And are likely to contest again

Come to think of it as an Igbo man ever been voted head of government before in Nigeria nope
Azikwe was ceremonial and ironsi was chased away from power like a coward he was

AhoadaRivers:


yoruba didn't work for anything, you collected 8 years from PDP and now want to collect another 8 years from APC, thinking you are smart. That's political greed and it fuels discontent and ethnic wars in many countries. You are not the only tribe in nigeria.

Thankfully you can't make yourselves president. So it will not happen. You MUST wait for your turn..

Your very shallow so if Yorubas declare it it’s war
But if Fulani does it it’s not war

Anyways no be today igbo Dey clear wat

anigbajumo:


Yoruba has already worked for it and the strategy on ground is in their court, technically they av paid their dues. You voted PDP twice with with block votes in the last 8 yrs and expecting APC to give u presidential ticket, bro it can NEVER happen. .........

Let them continue wailing
The loss of 2015 showed us they hated other ethnic group
I want them to do their worse only Death and election loss can make tinubu not be a president should he decide to contest

Obviously you don't understand Nigerian politics with this very naive post you just posted.

1) How is Tinubu my leader or the leader of the Yorubas?

Is Tinubu the leader of FFK, Bode George, Ayo Fayose, Dr Olusegun Mimiko?

If Tinubu is the leader of Yorubas, who then is the leader of Igbos?
Who is the leader of the Edos,who is the leader of Nupe, Who is the leader of Igala people?

2) The way you are making 2023 election centred on Tinubu is quite funny.

Let's assume that Tinubu dies today, will that translate to an Igboman becoming the president in 2023?

If Tinubu or any S/West Politician doesn't contest, several other people will still contest and most likely will defeat Peter Obi, Ike Enweremadu or Ogbonnaya Onu.


3) It's better you encourage Igbo candidates to Join the presidential race with all seriousness and start projecting them instead of giving us 1001 reasons why Tinubu should not run for the Presidency.

4) You can't chase four rats simultaneously and catch any anyone.

*Biafra or Death!
* I am Atikulated
*Igbo Presidency
* Tinubu must not contest.


Chose one and devote your time, energy and resources to it.



#Cheers

bigfish3k:

He is your political leader whether private or not and you people listen to him
If he loves southern unity he should support an Igbo man.
If he doesn't contest and support an igbo man that means the three southern regions are now united then we can in a united form ask for support from the north since its on rotation basis and the turn of the south the north will oblige