achorladey:


Is it when one gather as a GROUP you know worship that is TRUE or FALSE?

You even understand the concept of WORSHIP or sacred service at ALL? Can you WORSHIP God at your work place? How do you worship GOD at your work place? Let's see if you understand what worship means.

You can't worship God separately without a standard you know and strongly believe to be true Sir!

That's why you gather with those who have the same mindset so as to continue encouraging one another {Hebrew 10:24-25} since those you're going to meet outside e.g @ work, school, grocery store, recreation center, home and other places! 1John 5:19

So it's the heritage that you're keeping in mind that will help you to stand out, if you can't think of a group where you all have the same line of thought regarding standard how can that be possible?

Well it's compulsory you must belong to a group that's teaching and encouraging you to live up to that same standard!

Timalt:


Yes o. I doubt that the guy has a job though
He's always online jumping from thread to thread like a motorpark tout picking arguments with people.

The two questions I ask am about about
1. Providing evidence they were chosen in 1919
2. How can it be said the gathering of those with an earthly hope started in 1935 if as they now teach, the heavenly choosing is still open and not closed?

Those two rocked him bad

I feel that with people like this we just leave them with socratic questions and allow them use their sense if they have any.

Gotta work. See you around bro.

Great!

It's good you realize people need to use their God's given brains to choose what's good, you can only tell them what you think about their decision based on your own perception you can't change their own!

Jehovah's Witnesses will present their message, teach you how to apply it practically, present those applying it and the benefits thereof and finally tell you what God's promised to do for those using his teachings to benefit themselves and their neighbours.

It's you that will continue to be restless if you don't want to live according to their teachings, because you'll wish they agree that you're worshiping their God even when you're not ready to join them but don't be terrified when they tell you "that is IMPOSSIBLE"

Maximus69:


You can't worship God separately without a standard you know and strongly believe to be true Sir!

That's why you gather with those who have the same mindset so as to continue encouraging one another {Hebrew 10:24-25} since those you're going to meet outside e.g @ work, school, grocery store, recreation center, home and other places! 1John 5:19

So it's the heritage that you're keeping in mind that will help you to stand out, if you can't think of a group where you all have the same line of thought regarding standard how can that be possible?

Well it's compulsory you must belong to a group that's teaching and encouraging you to live up to that same standard!

Maximus69: You can't worship God separately without a standard you know and strongly believe to be true Sir!

Achorladey: No be my question you dey respond to.

Is it when one gather as a GROUP you know worship that is TRUE or FALSE?

Another question, is it the GROUP that sets the STANDARD of WORSHIP.

The remainder of the post tells me you don't understand the QUESTION raised.

Maximus69: Well it's compulsory you must belong to a group that's teaching and encouraging you to live up to that same standard! wink.

Achorladey: after GROUP MENTALITY na GROUP MENTALITY.

Rozz:
My Pastor has already summon me over the message I sent to him regarding Trinity.I know it won't be funny

I decided to follow this thread and this is the first thing I'm commenting on. Being summon over believe that contradicts traditional beliefs of religious systems are not new and being probably you are looking at punishment.

These are not new and exist in all religious systems. Take for example, the JWs, let say you come to their elders (they don't use the designation Pastors) or probably discuss with another member about their believe that Jesus is a mediator for one 144,000 people and not all persons as stated in the bible and you question such believes , showing in the bible and in their publications, you will be summoned, asked to recant and accept the traditional believes and if you are not careful, you will be disfellowship (excommunicated) and shun.

So your experience isn't new. In some denomination, the pastor might reason with you and probably you too agree on somethings with letting the harmer fall.

Janosky:


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He can't afford to lose one source of income.... Just do the Maths , from January to December..

The truth is NOT what your Pastor says but rather what you have found out to be true such as Revelations 1:4-6.. Rev 3:5,12,21.
No Pastorpreneur can TWIST IT.

Acehart just TORCHLIGHT it for you to discover the nail sealing the coffin of his fake doctrine.

Maximus69:


You're just a young lady still struggling to survive, you're not a major contributor in TITHES and OFFERINGS so no Pastor will not have much issue loosing you to another Church.

But the main reason why they're scared of loosing any member to JWs is like double loos to them.

(1) Not coming to grace the church again.
(2) The contribution (income) decreases.

Those are by the way then comes the agonizing part!

Any member that comes close to you will learn new things, they will realize you're now vast in Bible knowledge than they are, they will also notice that you're now wiser, honest ones may like to come closer to you and that will make more members realize the difference between being a Churchgoer and a competent Bible Scholar, even if some doesn't like talking to you before what about their friends who are now gaining more insight from you?

That's when you'll be shocked as Pastor start telling them evil things about you to scare his members from further dealings with you! Matthew 5:11-12

Rozz, do you believe that you are a source of income for your pastor as clearly stated by this income? That when your pastor sees you, he see a means of livelihood? Someone he is interested in fleecing for personal gain?

rottennaija:




Rozz, do you believe that you are a source of income for your pastor as clearly stated by this income? That when your pastor sees you, he see a means of livelihood? Someone he is interested in fleecing for personal gain?

I am not a source of income for any pastor

ojuu4u:


Its contradictory in eyes because the perspective you read it. A fault finder must sure bring out fault on any issue ask him to contribute .

Just as an apologist wear rose tinted glasses and ignore contradictions when he sees it.

rottennaija:




Rozz, do you believe that you are a source of income for your pastor as clearly stated by this income? That when your pastor sees you, he see a means of livelihood? Someone he is interested in fleecing for personal gain?

But that is what they clearly said that your pastor is afraid that their source of income is going away, probably taking others along with it. That way, they question your pastor genuine spiritual interest in you

ojuu4u:


That's ur perspective, we have diverse spirits of inspirations and that's reasons we aspire to do diverse kinds of innovations, for the Bible, God inspired diverse personalities and they all wrote Bible towards same goal. If you knw how to read BTW the lines and without being prejudice, you will accept that bible not contradicting.

Accept? It's a buzz phrase that says irrespective of what you see, you have to wear rose tinted glass and ignore what looks off

Rozz:
i love them as well but something is just not right with them.I watched one video sometimes ago where a pregnant woman was abandoned to die because the husband refused blood transfusion for her as it's against their doctrine,i cried so much watching that video.Till now I have not gotten any tangible reasons from any JW why they adopt such cruelty even at the point of death.

This link will help you in this topic

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blood-transfusions.php

Maximus69:


That's why i said

"THERE ARE MANY RIVERS TO CROSS"

If you're listening to their counter arguments, you will end up getting confused! Mark 9:14

Jesus said "by their FRUIT" Matthew 7:15-20

James said "FAITH without works is DEAD" James 2:26

Hen let them go out there and perform like JWs have made
LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign globally amongst themselves nah! Galatians 5:22

You mean the racist group?

Rozz:
i love them as well but something is just not right with them.I watched one video sometimes ago where a pregnant woman was abandoned to die because the husband refused blood transfusion for her as it's against their doctrine,i cried so much watching that video.Till now I have not gotten any tangible reasons from any JW why they adopt such cruelty even at the point of death.

Rozz doesn't understand the issues at stake.
If you were Abraham,would you obey Jehovah's injunction in Genesis 22:1-12?

Jehovah's injunction says is "ABSTAIN from blood" Acts 15:28-29.
Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your family tie more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

According to Jesus Christ, Is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

Hebrews 5:7, John 12:25-26, John 3:16-17,if Jesus Christ loves his life more than obedience to Jehovah God, would Jesus die for our sins?

Hebrews 11:17-19, if Abraham loves Isaac his Son more than Jehovah God would Abraham OBEY Jehovah's injunction to offer up his only begotten son Isaac ?

Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?
According to Jesus Christ is family ties MORE important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

John 12:26-28
26
"If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, My servant will be as well. If anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.
27
Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? No, it is for this purpose that I have come to this hour.
28
Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”…
JWs following Jesus Christ example ,against all odds, brings glory to Jehovah God. (Compare Proverbs 27:11).


How old was Samuel when he began serving in Jehovah's temple?
Rottennaija& Jwfacts are here arguing that Hannah had no business taking her son to Jehovah's temple .

Rogue 'Christians' setting their devilish standards for Jehovah .

Janosky:

Rozz doesn't understand the issues at stake.
If you were Abraham,would you obey Jehovah's injunction in Genesis 22:1-12?

Jehovah's injunction says is "ABSTAIN from blood" Acts 15:28-29.
Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your family tie more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

According to Jesus Christ, Is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

Hebrews 5:7, John 12:25-26, John 3:16-17,if Jesus Christ loves his life more than obedience to Jehovah God, would Jesus die for our sins?

Hebrews 11:17-19, if Abraham loves Isaac his Son more than Jehovah God would Abraham OBEY Jehovah's injunction to offer up his only begotten son Isaac ?

Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?
According to Jesus Christ is family ties MORE important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?


How old was Samuel when he began serving in Jehovah's temple?
Rottennaija& Jwfacts are here arguing that Hannah had no business taking her son to Jehovah's temple .

Rogue 'Christians' setting their devilish standards for Jehovah .

You don't need any further explanation on the issue my brother!

The experience Rozz got on Nairaland is enough for her to know where she should pitch her tent!

The experience i had before and when i began studying with Jehovah's Witnesses is enough, i've heard and seen many fabricated stories against them on the blood transfusion issue, whereas BLOOD TRANSFUSION doesn't guarantee that the patient will survive neither does it mean the patient will die.

Most doctors who already hate JWs will ignore patients who profess to be JWs to spite them and allow them to die in other to further soil the name of the group. But i'm a soldier who believe in no retreat no surrender.

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego stood before Nebuchadnezzar saying "we are prepared to die, we will never bow to your God"

If it's blood transfusion that's the last solution i'll prefer to sleep and wake in Paradise!

Maximus69:


You don't need any further explanation on the issue my brother!

The experience Rozz got on Nairaland is enough for her to know where she should pitch her tent!

The experience i had before and when i began studying with Jehovah's Witnesses is enough, i've heard and seen many fabricated stories against them on the blood transfusion issue, whereas BLOOD TRANSFUSION doesn't guarantee that the patient will survive neither does it mean the patient will die.

Most doctors who already hate JWs will ignore patients who profess to be JWs to spite them and allow them to die in other to further soil the name of the group. But i'm a soldier who believe in no retreat no surrender.

Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego stood before Nebuchadnezzar saying "we are prepared to die, we will never bow to your God"

If it's blood transfusion that's the last solution i'll prefer to sleep and wake in Paradise!

I really got experience here sir, my pastor noticed it when I began asking him too many questions lately.Im still battling with some aspects of my life that's not easy to let go as it's part of how and the environment I grew up(i don't need to say it as its obvious lol ).You all are really gifted, I learnt alot here and still learning

Rozz:
I really got experience here sir, my pastor noticed it when I began asking him too many questions lately.Im still battling with some aspects of my life that's not easy to let go as it's part of how and the environment I grew up(i don't need to say it as its obvious lol ).You all are really gifted, I learnt alot here and still learning

@bolded is another problem with JWs!

Most people feel that there are certain type of individuals that can become JWs or eazy to join JWs.

My young lady, let me tell you now that it's the worstest set of people that often join JWs!

WHY? Because they do see themselves as sinners so in most cases they're the ones who always give us audience, whereas the so called good people will insist they're OK.

You can't believe that i once witnessed a Deeperlife member coming to disturb the Bible study of his cousin because the ones teaching the guy are JWs, please ask me what type of individual his so called cousin? One Agbero Muslim, before we met the guy, he always smoke weeds even during Bible studies but gradually he began changing and the wife who formerly was hostile has become so friendly as she's noticing the changes in her husband, only for his Deeperlife cousin to come and stop the study saying "it's from frypan to fire"!

Let me repeat your submission in another way let's see it soundness

Janosky:


Rozz doesn't understand the issues at stake in this issue of organ transplant. Humans were allowed to eat animal flesh and to sustain their human lives by taking the lives of animals. Did this include eating of human flesh, sustaining one's life by means of the body or part of the body of another human dead or alive? NO. That would be cannibalism, a practice abhorrent to all civilised people. Jehovah clearly made a distinction between the lives of animals and the lives of humans, mankind being created in God's image, with qualities. This distinction is evident in His next words. God proceeded to show that man’s life is sacred and is not to be taken at will, as may be done with the animals to be used for food. To show disrespect for the sanctity of human life would make one liable to have his own life taken.

When there is a diseased or defective organ, the usual way health is restored is by taking in nutrients. The body uses the food eaten to repair or heal the organ, gradually replacing the cells. When men of science conclude that this normal process will no longer work and they suggest removing the organ and replacing it directly with an organ from another human, this is simply a shortcut. Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic. However, in allowing man to eat animal flesh Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others.(Italics mine)

If you were Abraham, would you obey Jehovah's injunction in Genesis 22:1-12?

Jehovah's injunction says is "not eat human flesh"
Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your family tie more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

According to Jesus Christ, Is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

Hebrews 5:7, John 12:25-26, John 3:16-17,if Jesus Christ loves his life more than obedience to Jehovah God, would Jesus die for our sins?

Hebrews 11:17-19, if Abraham loves Isaac his Son more than Jehovah God would Abraham OBEY Jehovah's injunction to offer up his only begotten son Isaac ?

Matthew 10:32-40, according to Jesus Christ, is your life more important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?
According to Jesus Christ is family ties MORE important than obedience to Jehovah's injunction?

John 12:26-28
26
"If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, My servant will be as well. If anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.
27
Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? No, it is for this purpose that I have come to this hour.
28
Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”…
JWs following Jesus Christ example ,against all odds, brings glory to Jehovah God. (Compare Proverbs 27:11).


How old was Samuel when he began serving in Jehovah's temple?
Rottennaija (strike through mine, actually I never argue this with you) & Jwfacts are here arguing that Hannah had no business taking her son to Jehovah's temple .

Rogue 'Christians' setting their devilish standards for Jehovah .

So the above is a rejigging of your submission with a few added lines of mind. In this case, you are arguing against organ transplant, why God's law in not eating human flesh should be obey at all cost and why organ transplant is a disobedience to those high command.

However, as you do know very well, your religion now says "There is no Biblical command pointedly forbidding the taking in of other human tissue . It is a matter for personal decision " - Watchtower 1980 March 15 p.31

Let me hear what you think. Maximus69, you can (should) through in some punch too.

Rozz
Maximus69
Jozzy4
Janosky
Achorladey
Timalt

Peacefullove:


And since you have looked at the context on chapter, book and the whole bible, does it says the Logos is the Almighty God ?

Are you sure you are ready for this you are pushing? Because I haven't seen you make any coherent arguments and discussion focused explanation. I dont deal with snippet sir, if you intend to present your theology or case on this issue properly, present it here and let's examine the scriptures on it. Anything aside that is just whiling away time.

Maximus69:


@bolded is another problem with JWs!

Most people feel that there are certain type of individuals that can become JWs or eazy to join JWs.

My young lady, let me tell you now that it's the worstest set of people that often join JWs!

WHY? Because they do see themselves as sinners so in most cases they're the ones who always give us audience, whereas the so called good people will insist they're OK.

You can't believe that i once witnessed a Deeperlife member coming to disturb the Bible study of his cousin because the ones teaching the guy are JWs, please ask me what type of individual his so called cousin? One Agbero Muslim, before we met the guy, he always smoke weeds even during Bible studies but gradually he began changing and the wife who formerly was hostile has become so friendly as she's noticing the changes in her husband, only for his Deeperlife cousin to come and stop the study saying "it's from frypan to fire"!

dont get somethings wrong(its just my dress sense) I think some persons think I go extreme.Im a church girl from childhood

Maximus69:


That's a beautiful one you posted there johnw47, but i don't cherish artificial things most especially when it comes to nails, i love it natural. My wife keeps her own because she knew i love it and i often buy her the best nail polish and colours!

Once again thank you johnw47, God bless you!

false jw mad max, you are cowering still - running away from what is said

is dairykidd a churchgoer as you said?
and post the misinformation you claimed he posted

you told rozz that dairykidd is a misinformed churchgoes

you are full of lies all over the place, oh fearful one:

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Maximus69:


I once posted the type of nail polish that i bought for my wife, and one of these misinformed churchgoers was like
"dragon nails"!

dairykidd:
Too much makeups, those long eyelashes and dragon nails... so annoying

Maximus69:


When the Bible talked about the earth and all the richly blessings awaiting those who will inherit it, faithful individuals could start thinking of what they will enjoy most by then.

One man's meat is another man's poison, God's word has pronounced God's WILL for the earth, so as a child of God i don't think there should be any grudge over what each individual chooses to like most in the things mentioned in our father's WILL!

You are also free to pick your choice Sir!

According to the Bible angels abandoned their duties, left heaven for the earth only for them to come having sex with female humans {Genesis 6:1-6} nobody knows what caused that until Jesus came to tell us that there is nothing like males and females in heaven, they're all the same gender if viewed from man's perspective! Luke 20:35

Please it's time to start thinking about your future and the blessings that awaits you whether you're going to heaven like the Born Again Christians or will inherit the earth like other faithful servants of God in ancient times!

What most people don't know is that there were times in the past when heaven also had lots of problems due to the presence of rebellious angels, until Jesus (Michael) was given the authority to start ruling, that was when he ousted all of them and Satan from heaven! Revelations 12:7-12

Please remove the fear that the earth may never have peace from your heart Sir, when God's kingdom (headed by Michael) began ruling the earth, there will be complete peace NOT only amongst JWs as we're seeing it today but throughout the earth! Psalms 37:9-11 compare to Matthew 6:9-10

So believe this Sir, it's not Maximus69's word but God's promise! Revelations 21:3-5

God bless you!

i know the earth will have peace, but you false accuser mad max cannot stop lying, can you



cowardly false jw mad max, you are running away from what is said again

you think that posting a pic of long finger nails
proves that those who inherit the earth will enjoy rich blessings - i repeat: how deluded

and you glorify fallen angels implying the women they had on earth
is better than what they had in heaven

Rev 21:8  But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.

Maximus69:
I posted this to prove that people who will inherit the earth will enjoy richly blessings as well, because angels who lived in heaven came down because of beautiful female humans!

Undoubtedly they aren't enjoying the feeling of different genders in heaven! Luke 2034-36

hoopernikao:


Are you sure you are ready for this you are pushing? Because I haven't seen you make any coherent arguments and discussion focused explanation. I dont deal with snippet sir, if you intend to present your theology or case on this issue properly, present it here and let's examine the scriptures on it. Anything aside that is just whiling away time.

It seems you are lost or something, you said the below.

hoopernikao
Like I told your colleague, you can't use John 1:1 to conclude what Theos will implies. You have to look at context based on chapter, book, and the whole Bible.

And i asked, since you have checked the context based on Chapter, book and the whole bible , Does it imply Logos is Almighty God ??

Maximus69:


My guy if they don't gather as a group to practice what they believe, how can anyone say the worship is false or not?

So it's still about the group that's practicing pure worship Sir!

pharisee false jw mad max

making false prophecies, and giving false dates, is not a sign of pure worship
but it is a sign that false jw org is not of God, and that's for sure:

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

Jeremiah 23:16
Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.


^^^ just some that speak of satans mob - false jw's and other false prophets

rottennaija:
Let me repeat your submission in another way let's see it soundness



So the above is a rejigging of your submission with a few added lines of mind. In this case, you are arguing against organ transplant, why God's law in not eating human flesh should be obey at all cost and why organ transplant is a disobedience to those high command.

However, as you do know very well, your religion now says "There is no Biblical command pointedly forbidding the taking in of other human tissue . It is a matter for personal decision " - Watchtower 1980 March 15 p.31

Let me hear what you think. Maximus69, you can (should) through in some punch too.

Rozz
Maximus69
Jozzy4
Janosky
Achorladey
Timalt

You're free to choose whatever religion that pleases you my guy, nobody is pointing a gun in your head due to your choice in worship.

What matters most to Jesus is the FRUIT that your religion is producing as you are gathering to call on God's name! Matthew 7:16-18

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization have a standard and we are pleased with that standard that's why we are part of the group. The Religion you choose presently have a standard that pleases you too so if you've known our standards and you feel it's wrong, there are over 41,000 religious groups out there claiming Christians, any of them you are free to choose.
Neither you nor your aggressive cohorts can change Jehovah's standard!

Go preach, teach and practice what you believe, Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" everyone having eyes and ears can see and hear what is happening Sir!

Rozz:
dont get somethings wrong(its just my dress sense) I think some persons think I go extreme.Im a church girl from childhood

We are saying the same thing here, your dressing doesn't mean what you have in mind. But there are things to consider, most people makes movie stars, footballers, musicians and so on their role models, many dress and even try to imitate them.
What God's Organization teaches us is that we are unique on our own so before Jehovah we worth much more than the greatest amongst unbelievers that the world are idolizing.
So our own role model must be Jesus, we only try to be moderate in our dressing and grooming so as not to stumble others whose faith is just growing, many turn to atheism all because they feel the person they're looking up to disappointed them with his/her own PERSONAL opinion on dressing or socializing.

That's my point!

Maximus69:


My guy if they don't gather as a group to practice what they believe, how can anyone say the worship is false or not?

So it's still about the group that's practicing pure worship Sir!

lying false jw mad max

those practicing pure worship don't continually run away from christians and the scriptures they post,
as you do, but all of your falsity is just the way of a habitual liar:

Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Maximus69:


You're free to choose whatever religion that pleases you my guy, nobody is pointing a gun in your head due to your choice in worship.

What matters most to Jesus is the FRUIT that your religion is producing as you are gathering to call on God's name! Matthew 7:16-18

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization have a standard and we are pleased with that standard that's why we are part of the group. The Religion you choose presently have a standard that pleases you too so if you've known our standards and you feel it's wrong, there are over 41,000 religious groups out there claiming Christians, any of them you are free to choose.
Neither you nor your aggressive cohorts can change Jehovah's standard!

Go preach, teach and practice what you believe, Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" everyone having eyes and ears can see and hear what is happening Sir!

lying false jw mad max

yes, "by their fruit you will know them": by their false prophesy, their habitual lying, there running from truth etc. etc., you satans mob are known:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

johnw47:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11468011_screenshot20200503153539_jpegbe41fc6bf0e2f054091b28249ef276ca

Whose hands is this, your wife's?

Mr johnw47

Maximus69:


Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
Says an adage!

Whoever keep on looking at a woman (not his wife) to the point of passing comments at her is guilty of adultery
Jesus of Nazareth~Matthew 5:28

Ordinarily posting the pictures of a married woman's body parts on social media whereas she's not your wife is enough evidence to prove that you always look at such things in women belonging to their own husbands NOT you! Matthew 5:29

Her eyelashes, lipsticks, jewelries, longnails, wave on and others is her husband's own NOT yours! Titus 2:5

So if her husband loves her that way, who are you to dictate how another man's wife should adorn herself?

Do you know that even her father have no say on any of these anymore once she's married? Genesis 2:24

Jesus NEVER said anything about the way a woman should adorn herself because he perfectly knew God's law that "she belongs to her own husband" 1Corinthians 11:3

Please try to learn what Christianity means Sir, where most of your Pastors used to quote out of context in order to start controlling other people's lives and wives is (1Peter 3:1-6) whereas Peter was telling Christian women to make sure that all the things they put on to adorn themselves to look elegant shouldn't make them forget that they're to subject themselves to their caretakers (husbands).

For your information, Rebecca (Isaac's wife) even put on noserings {Genesis 22:24-30} please if Rebecca who was one of the women of ancient times Peter was talking about put on bracelets and noserings to adorn herself before her husband, who are you to dictate for other people's wives how they should adorn themselves NOT for you but for their own husbands?

God bless you!

When we tell them that they don't know anything about Christianity they flair up saying we're judging them.
Johnw47 thought everyone belongs to his Pastors who dictates for people's wives how to adorn themselves!
Imagine posting another man's wife's body parts on social media then passing derogatory comments "UGLY" all because you want to prove you're Born Again!

Please what is your point?

johnw47:


pharisee false jw mad max

making false prophecies, and giving false dates, is not a sign of pure worship
but it is a sign that false jw org is not of God, and that's for sure:

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

Jeremiah 23:16
Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.


^^^ just some that speak of satans mob - false jw's and other false prophets

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When we tell them that they don't know anything about Christianity they flair up saying we're judging them.
Johnw47 thought everyone belongs to his Pastors who dictates for people's wives how to adorn themselves!
Imagine posting another man's wife's body parts on social media then passing derogatory comments "UGLY" all because you want to prove you're Born Again!

Ó sú mio!

Maximus69:


You're free to choose whatever religion that pleases you my guy, nobody is pointing a gun in your head due to your choice in worship.

What matters most to Jesus is the FRUIT that your religion is producing as you are gathering to call on God's name! Matthew 7:16-18

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization have a standard and we are pleased with that standard that's why we are part of the group. The Religion you choose presently have a standard that pleases you too so if you've known our standards and you feel it's wrong, there are over 41,000 religious groups out there claiming Christians, any of them you are free to choose.
Neither you nor your aggressive cohorts can change Jehovah's standard!

Go preach, teach and practice what you believe, Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" everyone having eyes and ears can see and hear what is happening Sir!

So it no longer a matter of bible forbids this or that, its now a matter of standard set the by the religion. Isn't that what we have been saying since, that it's a man made rule that has no scriptural backing?

We have used countless examples showing why its wrong in all ramifications and that there is no justification for it? Yet, these are rules set by the religion in the name of God and countless people are dying yearly for what God never condemn nor command?

Today, they are banning blood transfusion and causing 1000s to die when God has not ban anything and yet you are here shouting, Jehovah's Command, law, order.

Rozz, please pay attention as Maximus69 or other JWs respond to this question, Would Jesus
break God law in order to either save a life or help someone?

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