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JaceBlaze:
And the 1900s steam trains no other country is using today.Lord forbid...

Benevento:
Ladies and gentlemen, let's take a stroll to
Khayelitsha slum, which is the second largest slum in Africa and among the beginning of biggest 5 in the whole.

Khayelitsha

IronGalaxy:
We are building high-speed trains they are still celebrating locomotives in this century? don't worry we are "jealous"

IronGalaxy:
And what exactly is happening?

NockMedia:
Don't deceive yourself...the average south African is not smarter than the average Nigerian.

Jamestown123:
South African are always jealous of nigerian. Even when you know we have a lot of short coming.

Jamestown123:
South African are always jealous of nigerian. Even when you know we have a lot of short coming.

IronGalaxy:
Post your pics of Abuja all you like, it's a still a village by South African standards.

IronGalaxy:
btw, I can tell this article itself was written by a Nigerian. The usual pattern of self praise from Nigerians is clearly noticeable.


Source?

IronGalaxy:
From where I stand it's the other way around. Our name is rarely out of your lips.

RuudVanNisteroy:
I am a Pan-Africanist, I am proud of Namibia,Botswana and South Africa for making the black race and African continent proud and being a major tourist destination and bringing positive public relations.

proeast:
Lol, they have such disgusting places in their so-called "paradise" yet they were busy running their mouths on how terrible Nigeria and its people are yet the op was even indulging them!?

If you are following these self righteous guys making it look like SA is the best thing since slice bread, you will just miss road. Talk about classic hypocrisy!

The truth which you guys are ignorant of or chose not to accept is the fact that the only reason you attract bad Nigerians is because your people are equally terrible, if not worse. In the US, Nigerians are among the best immigrants and are high flyers in many noble professions while those your country can attract are the bad eggs that are coming there basically because their is a huge market for them.

Accept it, if the Whites were still in control, SA would have gone far but since it was left in your hands, it deteriorated so badly that power cuts has now become common, bad roads, filth, slum settlements, high unemployment, xenophobia etc. Unlike Rwanda that built their country from the scratch to what it's now.

No one is hating on SA but the truth is that you guys are naturally lazy to build on the structure that was handed over to you.

JaceBlaze:
Someone's really hurt lol

We never tried to paint South Africa as the "best thing since sliced bread" but the fact that you guys are literally begging for SA visas & will risk your lives trying to enter into a country you deem xenophobic kind of makes us think SA is like heaven to you.

So if South Africans are terrible people then it means you can use that as an excuse for your natural uncouth behaviour in foreign lands? was it not in the same US where 80 Nigerians were caught committing 419 crimes?

Whites were in charge just like they were in all of Africa,so that does not fly a reason why you are still backward.


Not everything was handed.Here are the developments that took place in recent years.

60 years of independence,and what have you achieved besides besides cheap talk and less action?...zilch

Jamestown123:
You and I knows an average Nigerian don't care to know who south Africans are. Because we rarely care about south Africa

RuudVanNisteroy:
No Nigerian city can compete with any South African city I will give you that. Your cities were built to Dutch and British standards.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvnHTLXAhJU

Jamestown123:
BBC news bro

Jamestown123:
Because Dutch and British built them not south Africans. That's why you hardly see any south Africans that owns even a piece of land. 90 % of their land are still owned by their masters whites.

IronGalaxy:
Can I verify the author of the article.

Jamestown123:
Because Dutch and British built them not south Africans. That's why you hardly see any south Africans that owns even a piece of land. 90 % of their land are still owned by their masters whites.

Benevento:
Ladies and gentlemen, let's take a stroll to
Khayelitsha slum, which is the second largest slum in Africa and among the beginning of biggest 5 in the whole.

Khayelitsha

Jamestown123:
BBC News
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Nigeria and South Africa: When two African giants meet
03 October 2019 Africa
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Image copyright GETTY IMAGES Woman with anti-xenophobia banner
Image caption The presidents of South African and Nigeria will be hoping to move on from the recent xenophobia
The leaders of Africa's two superpowers, Nigeria and South Africa, have met in the wake of recent xenophobic attacks in Johannesburg in which Nigerians were targeted.

South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa welcomed his counterpart, Muhammadu Buhari, to Pretoria and the two men will hope to put the tension behind them and focus on economic cooperation.

Our correspondents in Lagos and Johannesburg look at how the two nations view each other.

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Rivals and partners
Mayeni Jones, BBC News, Lagos

It's fair to say that there's long been a rivalry between Nigeria and South Africa. Many Nigerians see South Africa as their only other competitor on the continent for sporting prowess, cultural output and economic strength.

They're Africa's two biggest economies, taking it in turns as the top economic performer. Culturally, Nigeria's popular Afrobeats music has been a global force for years now, and its artists are some of the most famous African musicians in the world.

The country has Africa's fastest growing music industry and is projected to be worth $86m (£70m) in 2020. Nevertheless South Africa's music industry is larger still, with a projected growth of $178 million by the same year.

And all you have to do is sit with fans on either side of the aisle during a football match between national teams the Super Eagles and Bafana Bafana to feel how deep the competitive spirit between these two African giants runs.

Image copyright GETTY IMAGES South African midfielder faces up to Nigerian defender William Ekong in a 2019 Africa Cup of Nations game
Image caption The two nations are economic, cultural and sporting rivals
Historically, Nigeria played a key part in providing diplomatic support to the anti-apartheid movement.

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And since both countries' transition to democracy, they've been economic allies. Some of the biggest companies operating in Nigeria - including the mobile network MTN, the supermarket chain Shoprite and the broadcaster MultiChoice - are all South African.


South Africa v Nigeria GDP. $bns. .
But despite considering them worthy competitors, many Nigerians also express disdain for what they see as a sense of entitlement from South Africans.

Nigeria country profile
South Africa country profile
Previous xenophobic attacks in South Africa in 2008 and 2015 that targeted poor African migrants in the country's townships had many Nigerians feeling that South Africans were directing their anger at the wrong people.

This was expressed on the streets of Lagos and online during last month's wave of attacks in Johannesburg and other cities.

Nigerians took to social media and call-in radio shows to express their anger that once more, other Africans were being targeted for trying to make a living in South Africa. TV shows on Nigeria's satellite channels had one commentator after another condemning the violence.

If South Africans worked harder, was their reasoning, then their African peers would not be making more money from them. And anyway, shouldn't they be angry at the white South Africans dominating their economy?

Nigerian anger over S Africa xenophobic attacks
Are attacks on foreigners rising in South Africa?
This anger spilled out onto the streets of Nigeria's urban centres. Young people, allegedly motivated by a need for revenge, and fuelled by fake videos and photos on social media, started looting and burning South African businesses.

Both governments were too slow in clarifying that no Nigerian lives were lost in the violence. They underestimated the anger online propaganda can whip up.


South Africa v Nigeria GDP per capita. $US. .
But some analysts believe Nigeria's growing unemployment rate, which has tripled in the last five years, may have also played a part. Joblessness is worse amongst the country's young and many of the looters also targeted Nigerian businesses, suggesting their motives may not have been entirely to do with xenophobia in South Africa.

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And in that respect, both Nigeria and South Africa have a lot in common: they've seen their economic growth rate slow in recent years, leading to disenchantment with the ruling parties. Frustration with the status quo has sparked outbursts of violence that have surprised the authorities.

For that reason Presidents Ramaposa and Buhari need to put the issue of xenophobia to rest, and return to finding ways of collaborating to nurse their underperforming economies back to health.

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Our love-hate relationship
Milton Nkosi, BBC News, Johannesburg

South Africans view Nigerians as their sibling rivals.

There is a love-hate relationship which dates back decades. Both believe they have a significant place in African history and both are proud to be economic giants of Africa.

Many Nigerians came to South Africa at the advent of democracy in 1994 after the end of apartheid. But there has been a change and Nigerians feel betrayed by how some South Africans treat and portray them.


Video caption Businesses destroyed in SA xenophobic attacks
There are many negative stereotypes here and Nigerians are often depicted as drug lords, human traffickers and online scammers. Despite a general uptick in crime, South Africans are quick to blame foreigners for the problems in the country.

Another problem is the rise in charismatic churches - some led by Nigerian pastors - where the theology and doctrines have been questioned.

The televised trial of Nigerian evangelist Timothy Omotoso, who is accused of sexually assaulting congregants, has gripped people here and added to the anti-foreigner sentiment. Mr Omotoso denies the charges.

Why SA attacks on foreigners won't deter migrants
The pull of South Africa's townships
There is also competition in the job market, and not just at the level of unskilled workers.

In the corporate world, Nigerians turn up with qualifications from the top Western universities, such as Harvard, Yale, Oxford and Cambridge. Some South Africans seem to resent the presence of foreigners in the best-paid jobs. They deem it as unfair competition because while they have graduated from well-run local universities, their status is dwarfed by the global giants.

In anger, some suggest that educated Nigerians could be making positive contributions back at home where there is clearly a need, instead of going abroad and taking the top jobs from the hands of qualified South Africans.


South Africa v Nigeria populations. . .
But on a government-to-government level the relationship seems more cordial. Earlier this month, President Buhari thanked South African envoy Jeff Radebe for visiting Nigeria to apologise for the recent violence saying "pledging that the relationship between the two countries will be solidified".

This is despite some hiccups such as the hefty $5bn fine levied against South African telecoms giant MTN by Nigeria in 2016, which was later reduced after negotiations.

Officials here, particularly members of the governing African National Congress, appreciate the support that Nigeria gave during the anti-apartheid struggle.

Many prominent leaders were in exile fleeing from the racist white minority regime. Some of them, including former President Thabo Mbeki, spent time in Nigeria and therefore find it hugely difficult when locals attack fellow Africans. They feel embarrassed by what is sometimes described as Afrophobia.

As President Ramaphosa told me in an impromptu interview last month we should be "ashamed".


South Africa attacks. . .
More on this story

South Africa: How common are xenophobic attacks?
02 October 2019


Letter from Africa: Nigerian anger over South African xenophobia
28 August 2019

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IronGalaxy:
We are building high-speed trains they are still celebrating locomotives in this century? don't worry we are "jealous"

Jamestown123:
Bro don't mind all these South Africans who can't even afford to live in the city.

IronGalaxy:
Who is Mayeni Jones?

IronGalaxy:
Yeah right, convenient right? You should also know that South African slums are also teeming with Zimbabweans, Mozamnicans, Malawians, Pakistanis etc

Austine1213:
Almost 70% of south africans live in urban areas

JaceBlaze:
Someone's really hurt lol

We never tried to paint South Africa as the "best thing since sliced bread" but the fact that you guys are literally begging for SA visas & will risk your lives trying to enter into a country you deem xenophobic kind of makes us think SA is like heaven to you.

So if South Africans are terrible people then it means you can use that as an excuse for your natural uncouth behaviour in foreign lands? was it not in the same US where 80 Nigerians were caught committing 419 crimes?

Whites were in charge just like they were in all of Africa,so that does not fly as a reason why you are still backward.


Not everything was handed.Here are the developments that took place in recent years.

60 years of independence,and what have you achieved besides cheap talk and less action?...zilch

RuudVanNisteroy:
You can't erase from history the contributions of black South Africans in building the country. The Dutch and British were the planners and organizers who had the master plan and the blacks were the ones that built the country.

Look at this level of planning, looks like any city in Netherlands or UK.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_bx2NkgEnw

babasolution:
i dont dispute that,my personal view is that south africa is way better and richer than Nigeria.But its the truth those in makoko are togolese and beninoise though that have been there for a long time,most of them now have been born there,so they are effectively nigerians but withh togolese and beninoise roots