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Kingseex1:
Do you believe any of them can be a true christian and also can a christian attain such position? Using Nigeria as a case study....HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS

YES

Emusan:
I have read them and I didn't see where it was written that Solomon died as a sinner or refuse to acknowledge his short comes.The book of Ecclesiastes is there for you to know more about what the writer of 1 king 11:41 referred to which Solomon wrote toward the end of his life.
Nobody says Solomon wasn't punished for his sin but the point is, he didn't die into those sins based on the evidence we read about him in his last book.

Obviously you have not!

Go read your Bible and stop pretending you can throw the book Ecclesiastes, a book he wrote of contemplation and self-reflection around as if it is an autobiography of his.

Kingseex1:
Do you believe any of them can be a true christian and also can a christian attain such position? Using Nigeria as a case study....HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS

.

Historian Edward Gibbon wrote regarding early Christians in Roman empire" it was impossible that the Christians could assume the character of soldiers, or of prince. etc { History of Christianity pp .162-3
Jesus refused political office given to him on platter of gold, loyally stuck to preaching of kingdom [ John 6:15, 18;34,37.
Author Malcolm Muggeridge, wrote Christendom began with emperor Constantine....... {But} you might even say that Christ himself abolished Christendom before it began by stating that his kingdom is not part of this world.

So a king in whatever form, politician in whatever form, Senator in whatever form, Soldier in whatever form, anywhere in the world, has accepted what Christ Jesus rejected Luke 4:5-8

indigene:
.Historian Edward Gibbon wrote regarding early Christians in Roman empire" it was impossible that the Christians could assume the character of soldiers, or of prince. etc { History of Christianity pp .162-3
Jesus refused political office given to him on platter of gold, loyally stuck to preaching of kingdom [ John 6:15, 18;34,37.
Author Malcolm Muggeridge, wrote Christendom began with emperor Constantine....... {But} you might even say that Christ himself abolished Christendom before it began by stating that his kingdom is not part of this world.

So a king in whatever form, politician in whatever form, Senator in whatever form, Soldier in whatever form, anywhere in the world, has accepted what Christ Jesus rejected Luke 4:5-8

Yet the same Jesus said that with God all things are possible.

Why not, don't allow the fear of success made you feel all successful persons are occult. Pray and work hard so you can be one.

Kingseex1:
Do you believe any of them can be a true christian and also can a christian attain such position? Using Nigeria as a case study....HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS

IMPOSSIBILITY!

EastGold:
Very possible!



Some of us do not attain or maintain power by dipping hands into evil.


its not possible in Nigeria to be a politician u must join secret cult, without that one u don't belong. Even our so call vice president osinbajo, he's not a true Christian

only if they renounce their thieftancy title.

It is possible to be a Christian and a king. Oba Akinyele, the first olubadan of Ibadan was a firebrand for Christ.

The king makers tried to kill him on numerous occasions but he prevailed. He was the first president of Cac if I am not mistaken.

EastGold:
Very possible!



Some of us do not attain or maintain power by dipping hands into evil.

They will tell you.

SeniorGee:
Absolutely very possible...
My late Pastor was the King in his community before he passed on. When he was approached he gave them the condition that he would rule with the Bible as he was already a pastor then. They agreed and he did rule them. He ruled for 18 yrs and pastored 40yrs before his transition.

What's his name?

jeswinner:
It is possible to be a Christian and a king. Oba Akinyele, the first olubadan of Ibadan was a firebrand for Christ.

The king makers tried to kill him on numerous occasions but he prevailed. He was the first president of Cac if I am not mistaken.

@bolded shows that the man in question was never a Christian! Psalms 1:1

You can't be a Christian and at the same time dragging political seats with the world! John 17:14 ;James 4:4

Jesus' admonition to a ruler who wants to become a Christian is "forgo all of these, then come be my follower" Luke 18:18-23

Maximus69:
@bolded shows that the man in question was never a Christian! Psalms 1:1

You can't be a Christian and at the same time dragging political seats with the world! John 17:14 ;James 4:4

Jesus' admonition to a ruler who wants to become a Christian is "forgo all of these, then come be my follower" Luke 18:18-23

You are very right but...

Oba Akinyele was settling a dispute between people as a king and he could not get up because they put charms on his seat. He looked at them and recited Psalm 24 and got up in the name of Jesus Christ. Some of the chiefs gave their lives to Christ.

Another time he was to be inaugurated as a king and he was riding on a horse. The Ogbonis and other chiefs put a charm on the horse to make the horse die and disgrace Oba Akinyele. The horse started to cry. Babajide and other pastors started to sing and dew came down in the afternoon and the horse did not die. Some of them gave their lives to Christ.

Please if you have a CAC pastor or friend, try to ask about Oba Akinyele. You can even check the internet.

This is not king Solomon but a king in Nigeria.

leeone:
EastGold:
Very possible!



Some of us do not attain or maintain power by dipping hands into evil.


its not possible in Nigeria to be a politician u must join secret cult, without that one u don't belong. Even our so call vice president osinbajo, he's not a true Christian

Eeyah.

You need brain reset o

I even read about one Timi of Ede too that Baba Abiye supported back then. He fasted for about 69 days on the mountain with Baba Akande of Cac.

He had court cases and the chiefs with diabolical powers decided to kill him with one particular charm by 12 midnight that has never failed before. They wanted to silence him finally.

Baba Akande got to know about their plans that day as a renowned prophet that he is. He told the people to go bed as early as 9pm that day.

Around 9pm, Baba Akande and this Timi of Ede were naked and had to stand on a mortar from 9pm till 12 am where they were praying for the Timi of Ede. Around 12, a loud sound was heard and the Timi survived the attack.

The people who orchestral the attack all died and that Timi got back to the throne.

Remember when Elijah said he was the only prophet of God left in Israel.

jeswinner:
You are very right but...

Oba Akinyele was settling a dispute between people as a king and he could not get up because they put charms on his seat. He looked at them and recited Psalm 24 and got up in the name of Jesus Christ. Some of the chiefs gave their lives to Christ.

Another time he was to be inaugurated as a king and he was riding on a horse. The Ogbonis and other chiefs put a charm on the horse to make the horse die and disgrace Oba Akinyele. The horse started to cry. Babajide and other pastors started to sing and dew came down in the afternoon and the horse did not die. Some of them gave their lives to Christ.

Please if you have a CAC pastor or friend, try to ask about Oba Akinyele. You can even check the internet.

This is not king Solomon but a king in Nigeria.

There is nothing in the charms they're using against him if Satan wants to deceive him and those around him.
All the charms they're setting either on his seat or other places can't do a single thing without the intervention of demons, Satan is the head of them all so they have a way of defying God's word with their dramas!

Jesus' orders is what those demons want to right off, so they stage-managed all the shows to make people believe that Jesus' orders shouldn't be taken seriously when you're using Jesus name to go against his orders! Matthew 7:21-23

True Christians can't be easily deceived Sir, whatever Jesus said is wrong can't be compromised, he said
"drop all worldly political positions if you want to follow me" Luke 18:22
Failure to adhere STRICTLY to that order is tantamount to rebellion against God's Son, forget about the show Sir, Satan can stage-managed all that! 2 Corinthians 11:14

God bless you!

there is nothing like true christian even pastors that preach Gods words are not true Christians a lot of them behind closed doors do terrible things

chaloskyx:
there is nothing like true christian even pastors that preach Gods words are not true Christians a lot of them behind closed doors do terrible things

Kobojunkie:
Obviously you have not!

Go read your Bible and stop pretending you can throw the book Ecclesiastes, a book he wrote of contemplation and self-reflection around as if it is an autobiography of his.

So when was this contemplation and self-reflection happened?

Where do you read his autobiography from to have known he died as a sinner?

Emusan:
So when was this contemplation and self-reflection happened?

Great, so you have in fact never read the Book of Ecclesiastes for yourself! ** rolls eyes**

Kobojunkie:
Great, so you have in fact never read the Book of Ecclesiastes for yourself! ** rolls eyes**

I'm asking you, at what time do this contemplation and self-reflection happen in his life to have pen down the book of Ecclesiastes?

And I also asked; Where do you read his autobiography from to have known he died as a sinner?

jeswinner:
What's his name?

HRH Rev J.C. Ogu

Yes but not in third world...especially Nigeria, is very difficult

Absolutely yes

ebenhazard:
Impossible but God knows everyone heart

It is difficult but not impossible, there was a king here around my town that was an evangelist. He died more than two years ago though.
The traditionalists hated him with passion, because he doesn't want to have and never had anything to do with them, he was a practising lawyer too before his coronation years ago.
His burial was the first that I'll ever heard of without the involvements of the traditionalists or any cult groups.
You can google to check up my claims bro, he's late king (Dr) Matthew Oyekale, the late Ola aaresa of Masifa.

Impossible not in these con3 full of enemies jealousy hatred greed etc etc

if to go by the way we practice Christianity in Nigeria,then I will tell you NO

But you a true Christian right? Is that what the teaching of Christianity taught you? To speak and judge a fellow Christian? You are an hypocrate.

Just because osinbajo is the VP, does that make him any less of a pastor and a Christian? Judging a fellow human being and hating on a person will never make one a better person.

leeone:
EastGold:
Very possible!



Some of us do not attain or maintain power by dipping hands into evil.


its not possible in Nigeria to be a politician u must join secret cult, without that one u don't belong. Even our so call vice president osinbajo, he's not a true Christian

Kobojunkie:
That was a broken and depressed man mostly, in the book of Ecclesiastes, not a penitent man.

u are obviously arguing just to win the argument an not open to learning

Not in Nigeria... If you want to mention Nigeria just close the headline.

Our vice president will be in a better position to answer this question