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Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 9:02pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
Finallydead: This still does nothing to dispel the point which is this devil character has as much power as your god. Here you are saying the devil dominates.
Oh please your god played no role in human progress. If your god really wanted human progress we would have developed very differently. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 12:39am On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:SMH! very sad indeed that this is what many who are called Christians have chosen to believe of their God! |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 8:39am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: So what is your position on this issue? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 8:41am On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:I don't believe in a God that is limited in any way or sense. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 8:45am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: So the god you believe in can create a square circle? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 8:55am On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:Nothing is impossible with Him. 1 Like |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 9:32am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Have you seen any thing like a square circle? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 2:58pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:That I have never seen it does not mean it is definitely impossible. That I cannot imagine the possibility of an idea does not then make that idea an impossible one. It simply means my mind is not able to grasp the possibility of it at the present. 1 Like |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 4:16pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: How are you then able to assert that your god can do it if you have no demonstration of such a thing? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 6:45pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:Why do I need a demonstration? I am not able to assert any of you exist beyond the confines of my own mind, yet here I am communicating with you all daily. My entire reality might as well have been created by my mind, experienced through my sense, who knows for sure. 1 Like |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 6:52pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: It's funny how whenever a believer in god is asked for evidence of the god they believe in, their begin to question reality. If the reality is that shaky then we still have no reason to believe in your god or anything you say about his attributes. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 6:56pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:Your reality may be shaky but mine isn't. I only told you the truth of my perception of my reality, a truth that probably applies to all humans who exist, even though many of them may not think that deeply about such things |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 7:09pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: If you are questioning if I am real then your reality is shaky or its not but you just want to poison the well, a dishonest tactic. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 7:12pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:You are mistaken. I am not questioning if you are real or not. I know you are simply a product of my mind and my senses. There is a difference! Think more along the lines of the movie "The Matrix" or even VR |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 8:17pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed: Your god is just a basket of contradictions. You claim he is all powerful yet he has these rules he cannot break much like a human being cannot defy gravity unaided. Even at that with aid a human can defy gravity with aid but your all powerful god cannot bypass spiritual laws. You guys need to really sit down and think through these things before you say them.Forever and ever, the wisdom of men is foolishness to God, the Omniscient, Only wise. Fellow believers, observe here the demand of God on your life. Ignorant flesh and blood say that the omnipotence of God should not be bounded by any laws else it is no omnipotence. Let us investigate this in finite logic because if God is truly the Creator, He must be found even in finite logic, not limited to it though but as well, in the infinite. If any claims omnipotence must be able to do anything whatsoever, then he also says God must be able to end His own existence. But if God can end His existence, He is not eternal, hence cannot be God. See then, fellow brothers, that God's omnipotence must be bounded by laws tied to His own existence and for His omnipotence to be, these laws of His existence must first be in place. Omnipotence then, is the ability to ONLY alter ANY CREATED reality that is inconsistent with divine nature. O believer, the heaven of heavens is God's jurisdiction but the heavens(space) and earth are man's(Ps115:16, Mt6:10, Eph6:12). Men only and not God, determine what reality will be on earth because this privilege were we given. Do you now see that the only reason the earth is yet to see the omnipotence of God is because we have abused the privilege of freewill, failing to align ourselves with divine nature and it's laws in our lives, claiming wanton grace. Hence, Satan seducing men's will, retains His throne in the heavenlies(space) and on the ground of the God-given privilege, defies God while men are bound by laws of fallen nature and we manage little droplets of divine power according to our degree of conformity. Let believers therefore seek in God, the mystery of becoming a new creation by His blood in reality, fulfilling Rev12 on the conditions of v11 because this is the real reason He came to shed His blood for men to take on divine nature. Do not be satisfied with a mercy-ticket to heaven. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 10:37pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Finallydead: Are you seeing double? How is this a response to what I wrote that you quoted? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 10:38pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I think your psychosis has not ended. You should seek professional help. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 10:40pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:Everyone is a psychologist these days, right? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 10:42pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: I said seek professional help, did I say I am one? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:Well, for you to suggest that my psychosis hasn't ended, obviously you think yourself one. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 10:48pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: So if I suggest someone with fever has malaria it means I think myself a doctor? You really need help. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 10:53pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed:My response is not necessarily just for you but if you wish, you can read the modified posts and read your appended quote in case you lost yourself. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 10:53pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed: Did I tell you that I am having a psychotic episode right now? Did I tell you that my bout with those has not ended? You made an assumption based on nothing you know of and arrived at a conclusion, albeit disconnected. What did you expect me to do with that? |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 11:08pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: My assumption is based on the fact that you are saying things that make it seem like you are disconnected from reality. You on the other hand made an assumption that has no bearing on the facts, further highlighting your seeming disconnect. I have every reason to ask you to seek professional help. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Kobojunkie: 11:09pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
LordReed: Kobojunkie: |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 11:10pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Finallydead: The one lost here is you. I made 3 different responses to you and you just picked one to unload an unrelated response to, I have every reason to think you are discombobulated. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 12:01am On Jun 11, 2020 |
Mercy.... Not the way I wanted the thread to go. I knew "he" was coming with guns-a-blazing, just didn't know "how" he was gonna strike. Ephesians 6:12 (KJV). On another note, I saw your question Sonmvayina, and sir you too are tighly wound in satan's grip. You are almost squeezed to death. I honestly can't read through the majority your posts because they are so filled with hatred, rage & venom. It's highly offensive to my spirit...not that Mr. Reed's is that much better...but.... I don't think you as well want the truth nor are you teachable. I didn't have a burden to pray for you as I do LordReed & 4 others, but you will be added to my general list of Nairaland folks on the religion section.... Finallydead, yes I can persevere for him, (regarding my specific prayer) however he has to make a choice (freewill)...who he is gonna worship. Right now, it's overwhelmingly satan. Perhaps that will be his final choice. I hope not, but neither "I' nor God can or want to control Him. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 12:02am On Jun 11, 2020 |
Part 18 CONCLUSION The people of Israel were at this time loyal to God; and so long as they continued in obedience to His law, no power in earth or hell could prevail against them. But the curse which Balaam had not been permitted to pronounce against [530] God's people, he finally succeeded in bringing upon them by seducing them into sin. When they transgressed God's commandments, then they separated themselves from Him, and they were left to feel the power of the destroyer. Satan is well aware that the weakest soul who abides in Christ is more than a match for the hosts of darkness, and that, should he reveal himself openly, he would be met and resisted. Therefore he seeks to draw away the soldiers of the cross from their strong fortification, while he lies in ambush with his forces, ready to destroy all who venture upon his ground. Only in humble reliance upon God, and obedience to all His commandments, can we be secure. No man is safe for a day or an hour without prayer. Especially should we entreat the Lord for wisdom to understand His word. Here are revealed the wiles of the tempter and the means by which he may be successfully resisted. Satan is an expert in quoting Scripture, placing his own interpretation upon passages, by which he hopes to cause us to stumble. We should study the Bible with humility of heart, never losing sight of our dependence upon God. While we must constantly guard against the devices of Satan, we should pray in faith continually: "Lead us not into temptation." The Great Controvery Chapter 32 E.G. White |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 12:02am On Jun 11, 2020 |
Finallydead: Begs the question who made the laws that your god must be bound by, if you insist it was your god who made the laws we are bound by in this universe. If it was your god who made them then he can manipulate them like you insist he does with the laws of our universe. If he didn't make them or can't bypass them then you have revealed that there is something greater than your god. And yet still more contradictions. With every answer, more bramble. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 12:04am On Jun 11, 2020 |
LordReed:It's good then. You equally have every right to a fully paid for mercy-ticket to heaven. God won't give up on you till your last breath, no matter what you do. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 12:12am On Jun 11, 2020 |
Eviana: Yeah the usual Christian frame up, if I don't agree with you, I must be worshipping your enemy and therefore become the enemy. Pish posh. Already prepared an excuse for your failure. |
Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 12:15am On Jun 11, 2020 |
LordReed:Understanding. Whoever wants to understand should read carefully and he will. God's state of being/existence and divine nature is the laws/guiding principles of the infinite universe where He dwells. He can not change His existence or state. All He does is based on this immutable eternal nature. As He cannot end His existence, He cannot alter it either, else He becomes something other than God. Here where we dwell, however, is a different finite realm given to men and bound by different set of finite laws. If men want to see omnipotence as I defined it, they would replicate the infinite laws of divine nature here in this finite realm i.e. by adopting divine nature. |
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