₦airaland Forum

abbey621:
Management, anything management! See tech guys will always do the hardwork why the so called manager/director or VP makes the big money. I've been an I.T audit manager for 3 years now and before that I was an I.T manager for our database analytics team, I can't believe an easier job actually pays more....It is what it is.....lol.

TUANKU:
You can start by learning HTML, then CSS... JavaScript.
Or you can learn python which you can do a lot with apart from web development.

imohimoh12:
What do you mean by Amateurs provide cheap alternative for clients? Does it make sense to pay many of these over priced web developers in Nigeria(many are learners) or go offshore and get work done at the lowest possible price ?

As a client which would you go for ? The guys on fiverr or the guy who will ask you to pay a ridiculous amount with very crappy work.

Benjaniblinks:
5-10k

DualCore1:
Free courses from Harvard University

CS50's Introduction to Artificial Intelligence with Python
https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-to-artificial-intelligence-with-python

Computer Science for Web Programming
https://www.edx.org/professional-certificate/harvardx-computer-science-for-web-programming

Many more Computer Science courses
https://www.edx.org/course/subject/computer-science


If you're a self paced learner, edx.org should be on your list of resources.

Regarding the topic on salary. I wont drop any figures. When you're done with the basics, do the following:

1. Continuously beef up your Github profile with interesting projects (not todo list or sample projects you pick up when learning). You can do simple and interesting projects. You can do the same project using different stacks to show your range.

2. Be active on StackOverflow by providing helpful answers.

3. Create a simple and realistic linkedin profile (don't enumerate what you can't do)

4. Never stop learning. Never stop developing yourself. Never stop looking for what is trending. This is the problem I have with the PHP and Wordpress (N15,000 website) people.

5. Don't look for a Nigerian job. With decent power supply, a good computer with one or two additional screens and a fair internet connection, you're open to the world for business. The Nigerian market cannot afford you (yet). You didn't come this far to build 5-paged websites.


Don't try to learn all the languages there are out there. Learn the fundamentals of programming. Learn data structures and algorithms and you will be able to pick up any language and go through it in a weekend.

For any new project, don't settle for the stack in your comfort zone. Its possible there are newer techs to get that project done better. Explore your options and choose the best stack. Always try to add one new thing to your stack range with every project. It could be something as little as writing functional CSS with Tachyons instead of the normal CSS or using NextJS instead of CreateReactApp for ReactJS... just play around, you have no limits.

P.S: The industry is not a quick money scheme. I recommend having something else to support yourself while you learn. Please do not use the salary as a motivation to learn. Try and build passion for it. If you can't build the passion, leave it, try another field. Passion is important because you will need it when you eventually start working as a programmer (a job that can get very boring at times).

Another interesting field that's related to programming is DevOps. You can consider that at some point.

ProfDview1:
Thank u so much... Maybe I will try spend 1 or two weeks on css... I av created some responsive website... I even created sumtin like nairaland, I did it myself... They are all static though


Thank u so much boss

DanRay1:
Abro, great professionals know their worth and their work speaks for them.

abbey621:
Management, anything management! See tech guys will always do the hardwork why the so called manager/director or VP makes the big money. I've been an I.T audit manager for 3 years now and before that I was an I.T manager for our database analytics team, I can't believe an easier job actually pays more....It is what it is.....lol.

Laboni:
You’re not learning programming yet. It’s not as easy as some people make it seem but once you’re determined and passionate about it, you will excel with constant practice of course. It can be tiring and frustrating too.

ComputerWiz007:
let me just pretend u meant in dollars.

ComputerWiz007:
let me just pretend u meant in dollars.

Genesils:
Management, waoh!
Thanks for this... But then, the requirements is not something available for all, don't you think... I mean, the years of experience always posted asa requirement..

DualCore1:
Free courses from Harvard University

CS50's Introduction to Artificial Intelligence with Python
https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-to-artificial-intelligence-with-python

Computer Science for Web Programming
https://www.edx.org/professional-certificate/harvardx-computer-science-for-web-programming

Many more Computer Science courses
https://www.edx.org/course/subject/computer-science


If you're a self paced learner, edx.org should be on your list of resources.

Regarding the topic on salary. I wont drop any figures. When you're done with the basics, do the following:

1. Continuously beef up your Github profile with interesting projects (not todo list or sample projects you pick up when learning). You can do simple and interesting projects. You can do the same project using different stacks to show your range.

2. Be active on StackOverflow by providing helpful answers.

3. Create a simple and realistic linkedin profile (don't enumerate what you can't do)

4. Never stop learning. Never stop developing yourself. Never stop looking for what is trending. This is the problem I have with the PHP and Wordpress (N15,000 website) people.

5. Don't look for a Nigerian job. With decent power supply, a good computer with one or two additional screens and a fair internet connection, you're open to the world for business. The Nigerian market cannot afford you (yet). You didn't come this far to build 5-paged websites.


Don't try to learn all the languages there are out there. Learn the fundamentals of programming. Learn data structures and algorithms and you will be able to pick up any language and go through it in a weekend.

For any new project, don't settle for the stack in your comfort zone. Its possible there are newer techs to get that project done better. Explore your options and choose the best stack. Always try to add one new thing to your stack range with every project. It could be something as little as writing functional CSS with Tachyons instead of the normal CSS or using NextJS instead of CreateReactApp for ReactJS... just play around, you have no limits.

P.S: The industry is not a quick money scheme. I recommend having something else to support yourself while you learn. Please do not use the salary as a motivation to learn. Try and build passion for it. If you can't build the passion, leave it, try another field. Passion is important because you will need it when you eventually start working as a programmer (a job that can get very boring at times).

Another interesting field that's related to programming is DevOps. You can consider that at some point.

abbey621:
Yea that's why the path is to follow flexibility. Learn programming, gather the experience but also have a management degree, something that can launch you into management faster. I had less than 5 years experience before becoming manager, in 9ja it will be tougher but the future of Nigeria is entrepreneurship so when I say management, you must look at it from 9ja's version which is be your own boss, manage the f*ck out of yourself! That 100k or 200k a company wants to pay you, you can make 3 to 4 times just freelancing and being creative once you know what you're doing.

However, if you ever find yourself outside of the country then management is the way to go, find a company that will employ you for the technical side, be good to them, play a lot of office politics and before you know it, you have your own team and you can make men and women piss their pants at the mention of your name....I kid I kid

August21:
I sent you a mail bro. Let's create a WhatsApp support group for those of us about starting out or those already started.

I am about starting though.

DualCore1:
Free courses from Harvard University

CS50's Introduction to Artificial Intelligence with Python
https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-to-artificial-intelligence-with-python

Computer Science for Web Programming
https://www.edx.org/professional-certificate/harvardx-computer-science-for-web-programming

Many more Computer Science courses
https://www.edx.org/course/subject/computer-science


If you're a self paced learner, edx.org should be on your list of resources.

Regarding the topic on salary. I wont drop any figures. When you're done with the basics, do the following:

1. Continuously beef up your Github profile with interesting projects (not todo list or sample projects you pick up when learning). You can do simple and interesting projects. You can do the same project using different stacks to show your range.

2. Be active on StackOverflow by providing helpful answers.

3. Create a simple and realistic linkedin profile (don't enumerate what you can't do)

4. Never stop learning. Never stop developing yourself. Never stop looking for what is trending. This is the problem I have with the PHP and Wordpress (N15,000 website) people.

5. Don't look for a Nigerian job. With decent power supply, a good computer with one or two additional screens and a fair internet connection, you're open to the world for business. The Nigerian market cannot afford you (yet). You didn't come this far to build 5-paged websites.


Don't try to learn all the languages there are out there. Learn the fundamentals of programming. Learn data structures and algorithms and you will be able to pick up any language and go through it in a weekend.

For any new project, don't settle for the stack in your comfort zone. Its possible there are newer techs to get that project done better. Explore your options and choose the best stack. Always try to add one new thing to your stack range with every project. It could be something as little as writing functional CSS with Tachyons instead of the normal CSS or using NextJS instead of CreateReactApp for ReactJS... just play around, you have no limits.

P.S: The industry is not a quick money scheme. I recommend having something else to support yourself while you learn. Please do not use the salary as a motivation to learn. Try and build passion for it. If you can't build the passion, leave it, try another field. Passion is important because you will need it when you eventually start working as a programmer (a job that can get very boring at times).

Another interesting field that's related to programming is DevOps. You can consider that at some point.

DanRay1:
Except you don't want to make money out of it, continue learning everything

Funnily enough, it is when you start the projects you actually appreciate what you learnt because you can see the real life application of these concepts.

SoNature:
If you a full stack developer, you shouldn't earn less than 250k

These days Nigerian companies want an IT personnel to do the job an entire IT department

I strongly advise web developers to look beyond Nigeria and focus on the international market

August21:
I sent you a mail bro. Let's create a WhatsApp support group for those of us about starting out or those already started.

I am about starting though.

Aston02:
It's so saddening to see guys here watering down an average income for devs. If you're good at what you do, you should be raking in dollars not Naira. Entry-level/ junior devs earn between $65-120k per annum (divide that by 12 and multiply by 410).

However, you have to be on world's best or international standard before you can earn that, which is where most problems lies for Nigerians cos we like to cut corners

eph12:
Where's your location?

TUANKU:
If you find python too hard then am afraid programming is not for you.
I learnt C++ first, then Java during my school days.
Coming to python it was obviously easier to get a hang than most languages.

DualCore1:
Free courses from Harvard University

CS50's Introduction to Artificial Intelligence with Python
https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-to-artificial-intelligence-with-python

Computer Science for Web Programming
https://www.edx.org/professional-certificate/harvardx-computer-science-for-web-programming

Many more Computer Science courses
https://www.edx.org/course/subject/computer-science


If you're a self paced learner, edx.org should be on your list of resources.

Regarding the topic on salary. I wont drop any figures. When you're done with the basics, do the following:

1. Continuously beef up your Github profile with interesting projects (not todo list or sample projects you pick up when learning). You can do simple and interesting projects. You can do the same project using different stacks to show your range.

2. Be active on StackOverflow by providing helpful answers.

3. Create a simple and realistic linkedin profile (don't enumerate what you can't do)

4. Never stop learning. Never stop developing yourself. Never stop looking for what is trending. This is the problem I have with the PHP and Wordpress (N15,000 website) people.

5. Don't look for a Nigerian job. With decent power supply, a good computer with one or two additional screens and a fair internet connection, you're open to the world for business. The Nigerian market cannot afford you (yet). You didn't come this far to build 5-paged websites.


Don't try to learn all the languages there are out there. Learn the fundamentals of programming. Learn data structures and algorithms and you will be able to pick up any language and go through it in a weekend.

For any new project, don't settle for the stack in your comfort zone. Its possible there are newer techs to get that project done better. Explore your options and choose the best stack. Always try to add one new thing to your stack range with every project. It could be something as little as writing functional CSS with Tachyons instead of the normal CSS or using NextJS instead of CreateReactApp for ReactJS... just play around, you have no limits.

P.S: The industry is not a quick money scheme. I recommend having something else to support yourself while you learn. Please do not use the salary as a motivation to learn. Try and build passion for it. If you can't build the passion, leave it, try another field. Passion is important because you will need it when you eventually start working as a programmer (a job that can get very boring at times).

Another interesting field that's related to programming is DevOps. You can consider that at some point.

DanRay1:


That's why I went into Android and iOS. At least that side go hard most people so we no go too plenty. Make food still reach everyone

But work still dey web sha. You just have to learn a lot of technologies

Genesils:
In fact, this post is for me... I need to stop trying to know everything and start learning by working on project... I've been stucked on Python for too long
Thank you

DanRay1:
Okay. You wouldn't call website builders amateur but that contradicts your argument against my initial position that web dev is saturated. How are you going to get clients when they can use web builders? How much do you think you'd be paid?

Web dev as we see it has changed a lot. Basic page development has been taken over by automation. To be able to stay relevant you have to learn more stuff like e-commerce, business management systems etc