komekn:


The reality is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to seal such a wide border.

Even the USA has never been able to seal it's border completely.

It is simply an exercise in futility.

You are one 'very rational poster' on this thread. In fact, late CDS Alex Badeh made this point very clear ... about the futility of sealing or closing the northern borders. The borders are just too vast to police.

Odunayaw:
So we should take your word because?

A Maj Gen cannot be dismissed. The worst is a demotion to brigadier and retirement with benefits. The humiliation is enough punishment.

No nation keeps a 2 star general hungry. That is a national security breach !!!

FieldMarshall06:


A Maj Gen cannot be dismissed. The worst is a demotion to brigadier and retirement with benefits. The humiliation is enough.

No nation keeps a 2 star general hungry. That is a security breach !!!

You like talking nonsense, why can't a maj gen be dismissed, when generals have been executed in this country and some sentenced to death.

FieldMarshall06:


A Maj Gen cannot be dismissed. The worst is a demotion to brigadier and retirement with benefits. The humiliation is enough punishment.

No nation keeps a 2 star general hungry. That is a security breach !!!

If you need to make a statement...make it a fact or a calculated and reasonable one....not just baseless thoughts you imagine in your head.

Tobiloba2407:



You like talking nonsense, why can't a maj gen be dismissed, when generals have been executed in this country and some sentenced to death.

Guy,, am not your level in anything. I bet you, If you meet me outside, you may not even lace my boots.

Now, to answer you crap. Even presidents have been executed, but does that make it the norm? No.

Only the president can dismiss a Maj Gen and that would rarely ever happen. The worst is serious demotion and retirement. Hope you have learned.

Tobiloba2407:



If you need to make a statement...make it a fact or a calculated and reasonable one....not just baseless thoughts you imagine in your head.

Nawa o
Is it not a reasonable statement enough or didn't you get the angle he is coming from before all these

Edopesin:


Nawa o
Is it not a reasonable statement enough or didn't you get the angle he is coming from before all these

Don't mind him. I will be graceous to educate him. But just for today.

Generals and even presidents have been executed in mainly coup plots and failed coups.
Never in a civil democracy.

Military regimes are brutal governments, so they don't count.

Gen. Otiki would eventually be retired. Mark my words.

FieldMarshall06:
Gen. Otiki would eventually be retired. Mark my words.

oga calm down.. we don hear

seankafor:
oga calm down.. we don hear

Don't be rude like that guy. I just pardoned him. Remember, i can eat well too

Edopesin:


Nawa o
Is it not a reasonable statement enough or didn't you get the angle he is coming from before all these

Mv african pride issue, a couple of rear admirals, were demoted to lt cdr.( major equivalence), then dismissed from the navy, they were equally 2 stars, that field rubbish is talking nonsense.

Tobiloba2407:



Mv african pride issue, a couple of rear admirals, were demoted to lt cdr.( major equivalence), then dismissed from the navy, they were equally 2 stars, that field rubbish is talking nonsense.

Name them and when please.

Tobiloba2407:



Mv african pride issue, a couple of rear admirals, were demoted to lt cdr.( major equivalence), then dismissed from the navy, they were equally 2 stars, that field rubbish is talking nonsense.

Missing oil tanker. Rear Adms. Agbiti and Kolawole were eventually retired with full benefit.

So, who is ignorant between us

Tobiloba2407:



Mv african pride issue, a couple of rear admirals, were demoted to lt cdr.( major equivalence), then dismissed from the navy, they were equally 2 stars, that field rubbish is talking nonsense.

Rude small man posting with 5MB data you think everyone here is your mate.

FieldMarshall06:


Rude small man posting with 5MB data you think everyone here is your mate.

Oga sir! Go to bank and collect welfare sir , as your NG is super strong.

Tobiloba2407:


Oga sir! Go to bank and collect welfare sir , as your NG is super strong.

Ehen,,, that is the respect I have earned by teaching you and you are wise enough to learn very satisfying good luck.

Next topic please.

Reason why US has not been able to seal its border with Mexico completely is a political issue. Congress isn't ready to release funds for completing the Wall. The current uncompleted Wall isn't even continuous.
Israel has border fence and it solved majority of it's security issues
China has and it was effective.
In fact several countries have border walls longer than Nigeria's northern border so why can't we do it?. The goal isn't to STOP but to REDUCE to the bearest minimum all illegal entry and exit and it can very much be achieved. In fact it will be far cheaper than the cost of the hazard not having the wall will cost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier

Why cant people have intellectual arguments without resulting to insults

demolition:
Why cant people have intellectual arguments without resulting to insults

No bro. Many of them must resort to insults. But i dont expect any better.

If you see some nairalanders in real life, you would hate yourself for posting on this forum.

Very few are educated and enlightened. Say 5%. The bulk 95% of them are just ......

FieldMarshall06:


No bro. Many of them must resort to insults. But i dont expect any better.

If you see some nairalanders in real life, you would hate yourself for posting on this forum.

Very few are educated and enlightened. Say 5%. The bulk 95% of them are just ......

I agree, you are very right....

Tobiloba2407:


I have attended court martials before. It's just the process that it takes, and I know even a colonel, can ask the president of the court why they had to bring their oga out....trust me baba, would walk away with retirement and demotion in rank .

I agree with these. Your first comment sounded like the court martial was a charade

FieldMarshall06:


A Maj Gen cannot be dismissed. The worst is a demotion to brigadier and retirement with benefits. The humiliation is enough punishment.

No nation keeps a 2 star general hungry. That is a national security breach !!!

Ok

komekn:


My spellchecker caused a misrepresentation of my post.

It should be "When we talk of humvees l don't think anybody is talking about civilian variant but the uparmoured Humvee

Below pictures and one with a RWS. I noticed we don't seem to use a lot of RWS on our armoured vehicles.

But Ugo4u specifically said "unarmored variant"

Odunayaw:
But Ugo4u specifically said "unarmored variant"

It was for a reason and I specifically said that to avoid being accused of comparing oranges to Apples, that's why I said Assuming both were Unarmoured because of course we know that those Hilux/Pickups NA uses are lightskin vehicles.

We should just die the idea of sealing up our borders, it is impossible the cost is not only abominable, it is ridiculously expensive. The money we will use in doing that will be used to equip our military.
The best we can do at the moment is to use technology to monitor our borders. Drones, Cameras can be used effectively, we should as a matter of urgency double up on recruitment, and equip other agencies such NIS, NCS, Civil defence to enable them properly discharge their constitutional duties, the pressure is too much on the military especially the army because they've being doing the job of other security outfits.

ugo4u:

It was for a reason and I specifically said that to avoid being accused of comparing oranges to Apples, that's why I said Assuming both were Unarmoured because of course we know that those Hilux/Pickups NA uses are lightskin vehicles.

Exactly. You were very clear, I don't know where Komekn is picking his inference from

The disgrace , dishonor and demotion in rank is more than enough.
Officers value seniority and rank a lot.
Right now he is in limbo
Until the COAS signs off on his dismissal papers and then the President affirms,
He is in a hell of a place .
There is no guarantee as to when he will get those benefits
Time will tell.

LTGEN:
The disgrace , dishonor and demotion in rank is more than enough.
Officers value seniority and rank a lot.
Right now he is in limbo
Until the COAS signs off on his dismissal papers and then the President affirms,
He is in a hell of a place .
There is no guarantee as to when he will get those benefits
Time will tell.

The money wey the man allegedly loot can cover up for his retirement benefits..

Whyem15:
Reason why US has not been able to seal its border with Mexico completely is a political issue. Congress isn't ready to release funds for completing the Wall. The current uncompleted Wall isn't even continuous.
Israel has border fence and it solved majority of it's security issues
China has and it was effective.
In fact several countries have border walls longer than Nigeria's northern border so why can't we do it?. The goal isn't to STOP but to REDUCE to the bearest minimum all illegal entry and exit and it can very much be achieved. In fact it will be far cheaper than the cost of the hazard not having the wall will cost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_barrier

Isreal is not a good example they have been in a state of war from inception if not right from Biblical days.

Add to that the continous contention with Palestinian or if you like Philistines from day one and it seems will be indefinitely.

The land border wall is not more than 500 miles in addition they have deployed some of the nest technology known to man to keep it under continous observation.

Nigeria is country that it seems cannot afford to properly kit it's soldiers. Our combatants are going around in soft skinned pick up trucks.

We should consider the USA border wall is projected to cost over $22 billion. Essentially even if Nigeria could we don't have the money.

Finally, walls can be compromised tunnels built under them, climbed over or holes made in them nothing is guaranteed.
.

ugo4u:

It was for a reason and I specifically said that to avoid being accused of comparing oranges to Apples, that's why I said Assuming both were Unarmoured because of course we know that those Hilux/Pickups NA uses are lightskin vehicles.

There is a saying a picture says a thousand words.

The picture you posted was a M1151 HMMWV which is the armoured Humvee.

So bit of a contradiction from you.

Why would anybody want a soft skinned pick up in a hostile war zone ❓ But to answer your question l would want none of them both of them are a liability. Buy if l had to make choice it would be the Toyota. The Humvee is very heavy and slow bigger and a much easier target.

Mali lost near 50 troops a few days ago when Jihadists ambushed them. Why don't these ISWAP affiliates never attack French convoys.

There is something to be learned here in asking the question WHY.

Toju200:
their guntruck dope o

What is dope about it ❓

Soft skinned pick up truck in a kill zone or even just being in area of hostile contention.