MMotimo:

Even as a married woman, I am in charge of making sure precautions are in place because I have no wish to go through the hassles of pregnancy, daycare, etc again.

and I have been planning on coming to your next naming ceremony

Am Surprised...Sorry Shocked this didn't make front page...
Shout out to all the women who contributed ...
Some valid points...

Nigerians and too much turenchi for a matter so simple. No wonder we have never moved forward as a society. Bring a societal problem up for debate and all you see is frantic exchange of blames...

Yorubas are the problem... No, it is the Igbos... Oh no, it is the Hausas.... Come of it, it's Lord Luggard... Actually it is the Devil...

In this thread some have managed to make it a blame game. Some have turned it into a moral discussion, some have deceitfully preached their religion by it.

When we are speaking of the person who directly bears the biological consequences (100%), some even said the responsibility for the woman's biologically ordained vulnerability to the debilitating effect of pregnancy (planned or unplanned) must be equally shared by both men and women.

Funny. Those of you who have been pregnant (and perhaps aborted) and those who will be, I am sure you can provide us with the insight of how

>the morning sickness,
>the health challenges,
>the miscarriage scare or even the miscarriage,
>the psychological trauma of getting pregnant when you don't want it,
>the psychological and neurosomatic trauma of going through D&C/drug-induced abortion,
>those of you that had to fvck a quack before procuring abortion,
>those that suffer complications of post- infections, uterine rupture or those who have had their entire uterus removed,
>those who have lost subsequent marriages as a result of this information coming out,
>those who have lost their lives either procuring an abortion or while legitimately giving birth to their babies (planned or unplanned),
>those who have lost jobs and productive work hours because of pregnancy,
>those who have lost opportunities including schooling
>those whose careers have ended because of pregnancy and raising the babies,
>those who have to breastfeed and all....

perhaps you should explain to us how men share directly in any of these. Yes, you will educate the men to be responsible which is the ideal scenario, but then in reality with or without education men will want to fvck. Yes, we will educate the women to be responsible, which is also the ideal case, but in reality education or not women will want to fvck. And when that happens who is directly at risk with respect to pregnancy?

If you like argue blindly, but no amount of the twisted erudition shown by some of you trying too hard to make men sure in this peculiar liability will suddenly make men develop a womb. Those of you who also live abroad will understand that it is mostly the ladies that is eventually responsible for her own body.

The best you will get from a man is financial and emotional support, neither of which will reduce the biological burden that belongs to women. If you are tired using English grammar to argue with that, you can try Chinese or even Arabic, the womb inside a woman and her peculiar hormonal profiles will make you understand that you simply don't argue nature away... And next time you're pregnant, remember to share all the pain with the man, along with the responsibilities and the blames.

Take it or leave it, the woman bears directly 100% the biological consequences of pregnancy and abortion. For this reason she must take ownership of her body. She must decide if and when she wants to get pregnant. And this alone puts the responsibility on her to tell a man to either use a condom or fvck off....even when she wants the sex.

pmoye:
Nigerians and too much turenchi for a matter so simple. No wonder we have never moved forward as a society. Bring a societal problem up for debate and all you see is frantic exchange of blames...

Yorubas are the problem... No, it is the Igbos... Oh no, it is the Hausas.... Come of it, it's Lord Luggard... Actually it is the Devil...

In this thread some have managed to make it a blame game. Some have turned it into a moral discussion, some have deceitfully preached their religion by it.

When we are speaking of the person who directly bears the biological consequences (100%), some even said the responsibility for the woman's biologically ordained vulnerability to the debilitating effect of pregnancy (planned or unplanned) must be equally shared by both men and women.

Funny. Those of you who have been pregnant (and perhaps aborted) and those who will be, I am sure you can provide us with the insight of how

>the morning sickness,
>the health challenges,
>the miscarriage scare or even the miscarriage,
>the psychological trauma of getting pregnant when you don't want it,
>the psychological and neurosomatic trauma of going through D&C/drug-induced abortion,
>those of you that had to fvck a quack before procuring abortion,
>those that suffer complications of post- infections, uterine rupture or those who have had their entire uterus removed,
>those who have lost subsequent marriages as a result of this information coming out,
>those who have lost their lives either procuring an abortion or while legitimately giving birth to their babies (planned or unplanned),
>those who have lost jobs and productive work hours because of pregnancy,
>those who have lost opportunities including schooling
>those whose careers have ended because of pregnancy and raising the babies,
>those who have to breastfeed and all....

perhaps you should explain to us how men share directly in any of these. Yes, you will educate the men to be responsible which is the ideal scenario, but then in reality with or without education men will want to fvck. Yes, we will educate the women to be responsible, which is also the ideal case, but in reality education or not women will want to fvck. And when that happens who is directly at risk with respect to pregnancy?

If you like argue blindly, but no amount of the twisted erudition shown by some of you trying too hard to make men sure in this peculiar liability will suddenly make men develop a womb. Those of you who also live abroad will understand that it is mostly the ladies that is eventually responsible for her own body.

The best you will get from a man is financial and emotional support, neither of which will reduce the biological burden that belongs to women. If you are tired using English grammar to argue with that, you can try Chinese or even Arabic, the womb inside a woman and her peculiar hormonal profiles will make you understand that you simply don't argue nature away... And next time you're pregnant, remember to share all the pain with the man, along with the responsibilities and the blames.

Take it or leave it, the woman bears directly 100% the biological consequences of pregnancy and abortion. For this reason she must take ownership of her body. She must decide if and when she wants to get pregnant. And this alone puts the responsibility on her to tell a man to either use a condom or fvck off....even when she wants the sex.

...Apt.Thread closed

Anyone who believes the man and the woman will ever be EQUALLY responsible for the birth of a child, planned or unplanned, needs to have his or her head checked.

Acidosis:


Anyone who believes the man and the woman will ever be EQUALLY responsible for the birth of a child, planned or unplanned, needs to have his or her head checked.

....

Chu... Chu... Chu

Nigerians! Una too talk, shuo!

1Sharon:


You blame abortion on the man? Shame on you.

Shame on you too OP already blamed women, it's a waste of space to blame women again when we all know women don't get pregnant on their own. Who is holding the man responsible?? This is how we got here,
Women and men should be blamed for whatever they do but society has put the whole weight on the woman only and things just keep getting worse. Shame on you for expecting me to blame women too.
For your own sake I hope you are not a woman,

"why do women love committing abortion " it's 100% the woman's fault " How do you respond to such statements Or didn't you read the OPs post? Some women were raped, some didn't get the chance to request for protection, yet you want me to blame only the woman?? Your brain must be paining you

You had > 24 hours to study the 'comprehension passage', still you returned without comprehending.

lalanice:
Shame on you too OP already blamed women, it's a waste of space to blame women again when we all know women don't get pregnant on their own. Who is holding the man responsible?? This is how we got here,
Women and men should be blamed for whatever they do but society has put the whole weight on the woman only and things just keep getting worse. Shame on you for expecting me to blame women too.
For your own sake I hope you are not a woman,

"why do women love committing abortion " it's 100% the woman's fault " How do you respond to such statements Or didn't you read the OPs post? Some women were raped, some didn't get the chance to request for protection, yet you want me to blame only the woman?? Your brain must be paining you

pmoye:
You had > 24 hours to study the 'comprehension passage', still you returned without comprehending.

unwise, 24hrs because you think I live on NL like you abi?

Justbehave:
The op is very correct. The issue is not who you are passing the blame to but who is bearing the consequence.Who dies during abortion? The woman. Who suffer and take care of the baby if the stupid boy runs away! The woman. Who gets a damaged womb and might not be able to give birth in future due to failed abortion? The woman.Op is simply advising ladies to stop having sex with irresponsible men. Period.

Period!

I have a very unpopular opinion. Why are unmarried women even taking contraceptives? I mean, it doesn’t make sense. You’re taking contraceptives to start having sex with reckless abandon, yeah? You’re taking contraceptives to shield the man from possible responsibilities? But what is he doing in your Favour?
Did he accompany you to the doctor’s?
Should anything go wrong with the contraceptive, will he be gallantly standing by you? When you start adding weight uncontrollably, will he love you regardless or start hunting for a new babe?
Do you realize that some studies show contraceptives are a contributory factor to cervical cancer in women?

Woke woman! Continue!

PrimadonnaO:


Period!

I have a very unpopular opinion. Why are unmarried women even taking contraceptives? I mean, it doesn’t make sense. You’re taking contraceptives to start having sex with reckless abandon, yeah? You’re taking contraceptives to shield the man from possible responsibilities? But what is he doing in your Favour?
Did he accompany you to the doctor’s?
Should anything go wrong with the contraceptive, will he be gallantly standing by you? When you start adding weight uncontrollably, will he love you regardless or start hunting for a new babe?
Do you realize that some studies show contraceptives are a contributory factor to cervical cancer in women?

Woke woman! Continue!

Why this lady just dey comment everywhere? Mind your business!

IYIMAN:


Why this lady just dey comment everywhere? Mind your business!

LMAO!!

pmoye:
What exactly is the reason why Nigerian women are so much in love with abortion? It is so rampant that you get tempted to categorize abortion as another method of contraception. The funny thing is that most of these ladies involved are religious individuals... What exactly is going on?

And they always claim it is a mistake. There is no accident in having sex. You don't walk on the streets and suddenly slip and fall on a ready-to-fire di.ck. There's always a process involved in sex.

Make no mistake, this is 100% about women, in case some start feeling the need to balance the gender here.

If you're a single mother because of this-kind of mistake, then what a shame. Abortion and single-motherhood should never be a replacement for good sense.

Says the Oracle.

The truth is no lady likes abortion.
The thing is nature itself has put a kind of natural restrictions on a woman's sexcapades so that if she does it with reckless abandon she gets a result,pregnancy and being saddled with a baby is a great responsibility many are not ready for hence the numerous abortions u see everywhere esp for those who do not use protection and refuse to abstain.

PrimadonnaO:


Period!

I have a very unpopular opinion. Why are unmarried women even taking contraceptives? I mean, it doesn’t make sense. You’re taking contraceptives to start having sex with reckless abandon, yeah? You’re taking contraceptives to shield the man from possible responsibilities? But what is he doing in your Favour?
Did he accompany you to the doctor’s?
Should anything go wrong with the contraceptive, will he be gallantly standing by you? When you start adding weight uncontrollably, will he love you regardless or start hunting for a new babe?
Do you realize that some studies show contraceptives are a contributory factor to cervical cancer in women?

Woke woman! Continue!

Are contraceptive good for married women?

Graxie:
Are contraceptive good for married women?

Lol

pmoye:


Point 1 or 2, it takes an irresponsible woman to get unwanted pregnancy. Of course this excludes marriage/relationship gone sour

Nah it takes a fertile woman one or two mistakes to get unwanted pregnancy.

Graxie:
Are contraceptive good for married women?

Contraceptives have their general side effects, for married or unmarried.

But at least within the confines of marriage, it’s more reasonable. Both husband and wife would bear the consequences. No one’s being a fool for the other.

PrimadonnaO:


Contraceptives have their general side effects, for married or unmarried.

But at least within the confines of marriage, it’s more reasonable. Both husband and wife would bear the consequences. No one’s being a fool for the other.

Good, condom is also a form of contraceptive.

Eileene:

The truth is no lady likes abortion.
The thing is nature itself has put a kind of natural restrictions on a woman's sexcapades so that if she does it with reckless abandon she gets a result,pregnancy and being saddled with a baby is a great responsibility many are not ready for hence the numerous abortions u see everywhere esp for those who do not use protection and refuse to abstain.

Sorry I had to underline the word "nature". It's one of those words I like to use whenever I see a debate on gender equality.

Graxie:
Good, condom is also a form of contraceptive.

Yes, condoms are a form of contraception. And a readily available one for both men and women.

PrimadonnaO:


Yes, condoms are a form of contraception. And a readily available one for both men and women.

Right, so true. I wish people will research more on contraceptives and their side effects. So many women have gone because of it. Too pathetic.

Graxie:
Right, so true. I wish people will research more on contraceptives and their side effects. So many women have gone because of it. Too pathetic.

Very pathetic. Emergency contraceptives, too.
Some people have turned those ones to food... Postinor 2, inclusive.

Well, there also contraceptive options for men including

condoms
vasectomy
masturbation
dry-humping
MouthAction
withdrawal (highly ineffective since precum or insertion after ejaculation can still get a lady pregnant)

But vasectomy will scare the shit out of any Nigerian man. We would immediately term it castration . I learned some drugs are being developed targeting men...

Women have more options, however, including

condoms
female condoms
pills including progesteron-only pills and combined pills
natural family planning (fertility awareness)
diaphragms
contraceptive injection
contraceptive patch and implants
IUD (intrauterine device or coil)
IUS (intrauterine system or hormonal coil)
vaginal ring

That female condom is horrible though, it's more like putting a sock inside your v-jay and asking his Uncle Tom to jump in. I think the fertility awareness is the safest, followed by condoms (some minority patients have latex reactions but there are non-latex condoms), while IUD has perhaps the highest effectiveness.

PrimadonnaO:


Very pathetic. Emergency contraceptives, too.
Some people have turned those ones to food... Postinor 2, inclusive.

MoodyQueen:
100% about women?

OP, are you suffering from selective amnesia?

Or is it just convenient to ignore the community pricks who refuse to wear condoms and those who engage in the act of stealthing??

Once a lady filled with sense refuses to have sex without condom, she will never be raped instead the man will go and buy condom fast fast so he can shuk. Stop all these stupid.dity you people call gender balancing. It's your body and you get to dictate what goes in and out of it. Don't be a mor.on and start blaming other people for your failure.


When I was in the dating field, I wanted to bang a lady, she told me I don't have condom and so no sex, i never had sex with her that day because I was not with condom. Did she get pregnant by me and abort it? Or did I force her into it?


The way women play the blame game they forget that they are Wielding a powerful tool that will make any man do anything once hooked. The pussy you will use to make him buy you literally anything becomes powerless once there's no condom abi? Don't make me descend on you oh....

Kingarthur21 I've noticed you are now in the background. Long time no comment.

missjo:
This is dependent on the society a woman lives in.
I believe single women in Nigeria are too culturally restricted when it comes to the issue of sex, this can make them feel embarrassed if they need to walk into pharmacies or see doctors to get birth control options.

I've been getting access to birth control since I turned 21. Waking into any pharmacy here for these things is quite normal and no one looks at you funny. Bought male condoms sometimes as well, to ensure he does not come with an excuse of not having one. Getting pregnant or not getting pregnant is my decision.

Simple. @bolded.


I don't know how a man will dictate what happens to his body and also dictate what happens to his girlfriend's body. Lol


When he does it, he becomes misogynistic. When he doesn't and minds his business he becomes irresponsible. If you won't follow the advice of this lady I mentioned, then whatever comes your way, you deserve it.

PrimadonnaO:


Period!

I have a very unpopular opinion. Why are unmarried women even taking contraceptives? I mean, it doesn’t make sense. You’re taking contraceptives to start having sex with reckless abandon, yeah? You’re taking contraceptives to shield the man from possible responsibilities? But what is he doing in your Favour?
Did he accompany you to the doctor’s?
Should anything go wrong with the contraceptive, will he be gallantly standing by you? When you start adding weight uncontrollably, will he love you regardless or start hunting for a new babe?
Do you realize that some studies show contraceptives are a contributory factor to cervical cancer in women?

Woke woman! Continue!