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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Sabr1na(f): 7:59am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Femzaremz:Thanks 3 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 8:35am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: I was not trying to disprove your fairytale god since you didn't prove him in the first place. I treat you fairytale god as I treat any character from an story, I discuss the character and its actions within the confines of the story. It in no way means the character is real unless of course if it is based on true life which you can hardly find evidence for your disjointed god stories. LMFAO! 5 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 8:52am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Sabr1na: I Already Answered that I do not know His Name, and No One does! And by this statement, it means that You Have Accepted that God Exists (Which is The Issue in Contention) and now, you Only wish to know His Name (which is a separate issue). So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:30am On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed: See what I Accused you of doing? You changing goal posts again. First, your clear stand is that we are crazy for believing that there is a God, which means you are clearly saying that there is no God. Now you have switched to say that you "I was not trying to disprove your fairytale god" yet, you are here again, unsuccessfully attempting to dislodge me from my stand that God Lives! Your Stands Must Always be Firm, if it's True and if you Truly Believe it, to be True, You Must Stand or Fall with It. When you shift grounds, it Always Means that you have Abandoned Your Former Ground, when it was Attacked, WHICH ALWAYS MEANS THAT, THAT GROUND IS WEAK and HAVING SEEN THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR GROUND, YOU FLED ELSEWHERE! You are either standing firmly on the ground that there is no God, with your proof and you stand or fall with it. "He who runs away from the war front is a deserter and a loser and not fit to fight" I STOOD ON MINE, AND EVEN TILL NOW, NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SHAKE ME OUT OF IT OR MAKE ME FALL! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:31am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Sabr1na: I have addressed this up here! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 9:36am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Can quote any place I said someone is crazy for believing in god? Can quote any place I said I can or I will disprove god? What you just show is you twist things to fit your narrative and massage your ego. LMFAO! 2 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:36am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Sabr1na: Naah, it's not a fallacy, because I pleaded History from my first Post. And By This Action, All Histories (between us) becomes Relevant, which he himself attempted to use against me, as I did him, therefore, it was proper. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 9:40am On Jun 21, 2020 |
tintingz: [img]https://media1./images/cc691d6b41d2f745f8d03a120c17c4d1/tenor.gif?itemid=13187177[/img] 4 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39am On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed: Another change of post! The issue is not about proving whether you said someone is crazy for believing in God, but I Stand on the Proof That God Lives and that You All can Never Prove me wrong, which up till now you have Still not done And Neither Are You Ever Able to Do It, RATHER YOU ARE RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE ATTEMPTING TO RAISE DIFFERENT ISSUES. BUT I'M STILL STANDING AND WAITING FOR YOU ALL!!! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Sabr1na(f): 10:39am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Ugh. Stop deceiving yourself Just because I adopt a position for the sake of debate does not necessarily mean I have positively accepted that position. You have committed a strawman fallacy. You're pretty horrible at this. So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda.Oh no you don't mister! If you don't know him, then you don't know him. It is crass dishonesty that gives you the audacity to ascribe names and many other attributes to him. If truly you believe the creator cannot be known, then you are a deist. Your belief in jesus has already exposed your dishonest intentions here. Sorry. Dtruthspeaker:Through lies and self-deceit you mean? Dtruthspeaker:A fallacy can never "not be" a fallacy. No matter how much you like to play the word twister. Your debating skills are abysmal to put it mildly. 3 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Nobody: 10:45am On Jun 21, 2020 |
This is just silly. You can't prove that God exists but simply quoting Bible passages. That's no proof. 3 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:05am On Jun 21, 2020 |
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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:06am On Jun 21, 2020 |
That's why I stopped arguing with them base on their book of illusion they call bible. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 11:17am On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Good! So you admit you lied since you know I never said anyone was crazy for believing in god nor did I say I would disprove god. You can keep waiting for someone to disprove god while we keep waiting for you to prove god. LMFAO! 2 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:13pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Sabr1na: Simple reasoning sweet heart, You Are Either Up or Down: In Or Out; Sitting on the Fence Is not allowed, unless you are a spectator, which you if you were, you've lost it because you have entered Into the Ring, so fight or flee, your choice. But I ain't going nowhere! Sabr1na: Now you wish to make this post get out of hand, Lady, fight fair for this discussion proceeded this far because of fair and even arguments, even Reed, abided by it. It is an Unfair and Unjust way to argue and it Is Wrong for you to tempt me into arguing with you in the way and manner you are suggesting. I would not participate in arguing with you in this way and manner because it leads to Unfairness and Injustice. For if you can fight so, I can do so also and should have done so from the beginning and this post would from the beginning would have been unintelligible for any Ordinary Reasonable Person to Follow and come to a sound and fair Judgement. Back to your earlier post and the fair parts of your latter post. You Left the Issue of the Existence of God and called on me to Answer, (in your own words) 'Pray tell, how did you come about the knowledge that this creator is Yahweh? What is your evidence that it is not Allah, Vishnu, Horus etcetera etcetera....? NB Based on that Clear question I answered Clearly saying "I Already Answered that I do not know His Name, and No One does! And by this statement, it means that You Have Accepted that God Exists (Which is The Issue in Contention) and now, you Only wish to know His Name (which is a separate issue). So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda." Now, you have Yet Again, Abandoned this issue and called on me Once Again to Attempt to give you Another Answer for Yet Another Issue, To wit-Knowledge of Him saying "If you don't know him, then you don't know him'". This, I say is not the issue. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:36pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed: This Post is not about proving whether you Lied or Not (And Yet Another Shift of your Post) BUT ABOUT MY FIRM AND INFALLIBLE STAND ON THE TRUTH THAT GOD EXISTS, WHICH, STILL NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO STILL MAKE ME FALL! LordReed: , HE FLEES! HE FLEES!! COME EVERYONE, SEE, SATAN HAS FALLEN AND SATAN FLEEEEES!!! I have seen, seen the downfall of Satan, Glory Be to God, Glory Be to Jesus; I have seen, seen, the downfall of Satan, Glory Glory, Glory, Be to God, Amen. Psalm 27 7 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? 2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. 3 Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident. 4 One thing have I desired of the Lord, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the Lord, and to enquire in his temple. 5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. 6 And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the Lord For they lunged at my soul from the left and from the right, from the front and from behind, but they have stumbled and have fallen. They came with Mockings and Curses, but my soul was Protected, Praise Ye the Lord, who Doeth Valiantly! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:41pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
It is Finished!! Praise Be the Lord, Forever and Ever, Amen! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:47pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:
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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:49pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Psalm 3 Lord, how are they increased that trouble me Many are they that rise up against me. Many there be which say of my soul There is no help for Him in God. But Thou, O Lord, art a shield for me My glory, You lift mine head. But Thou, O Lord, art a shield for me You're my glory, the lifter up of mine head. I cried unto the Lord with my voice And He heard me out of His holy hill. I laid me down and I slept I awaked; for the Lord sustained me. But thou oh lord art a shield for me My glory, u lift my head But thou oh lord art a shield for me My glory, u lifter up of my head I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people That have set themselves against me round about. I will not be afraid of ten thousands of people That have set themselves against me round about. But thou oh lord art a shield for me My glory, u lift my head But thou oh lord art a shield for me My glory, u lifter up of my head. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:51pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Can you tell me why God created sin, he's the creator of everything, yes? 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:57pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Psalm 119:89 Lamedh. Forever, O Lord, Your word is settled in heaven. 1 Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endures forever.” And this is the word which was preached to you. Psalm 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth, And every one of Your righteous ordinances is everlasting. Psalm 111:8 They are upheld forever and ever; They are performed in truth and uprightness. Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the Lord stands forever, The plans of His heart from generation to generation. Psalm 117:2 For His lovingkindness is great toward us, And the truth of the Lord is everlasting. Praise the Lord! These Are Eternal-Truths!! |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:14pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Psalms 9 I will praise thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works. 2 I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High. 3 When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy presence. 4 For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right. 5 Thou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name for ever and ever. 6 O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them. 7 But the Lord shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment. 8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness. 9 The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. 10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee. 11 Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by Sabr1na(f): 1:18pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Yeah, you reason like a simpleton Now you wish to make this post get out of hand, Lady, fight fair for this discussion proceeded this far because of fair and even arguments, even Reed, abided by it. It is an Unfair and Unjust way to argue and it Is Wrong for you to tempt me into arguing with you in the way and manner you are suggesting.It is very telling that you consider arguments based on known logical fallacies to be fair and just. You're nothing but an unintelligent cheat with delusions of competence. Your crass dimwittedness constantly oozes from the pixels of your post. You argue like a criminal, and sound like one too. You Left the Issue of the Existence of God and called on me to Answer, (in your own words) 'Pray tell, how did you come about the knowledge that this creator is Yahweh? What is your evidence that it is not Allah, Vishnu, Horus etcetera etcetera....? NBI have accepted that your sky daddy exists for the sake of argument alone! Don't get it twisted. I already explained it to you but it seems reasoning went straight into your arse. Let me first make it clear that I'm not here to disprove your god. I'm simply asking for proof. They're two different positions. Nobody can disprove a negative; I know you know this. I could have easily dismissed your claim as the trash it really is by asking you to provide clear empirical evidence that the world was indeed created! Yes. How do you the universe isn't evolving? How do you know the universe wasn't transformed? Creation is just one of many options in terms of the world's origin/s. This alone would bust your creator-creation bunkum at the start, and it would be a boring debate. So on the issue of the name, I have answered above and I further state those names you mentioned above are names which man uses to identify a specific person for communication purposes. But that does not mean that man knows the True Name of His Creator, like the Camry can Never ever know Mr. Toyoda or that he is even called Mr. Toyoda."The name is one thing. The religions and doctrines and teachings are far more interesting details! The doctrines of Christianity differ from Islam as well as many other major religions out there. Based on their teachings and doctrines, they all cannot be the same god! Yahweh cannot be Ahuro Mazda nor can he be Vishnu! When you denounce christianity and begin to worship Horus, I'll take your assertion that they are the same god seriously. Till then you're just a big fat arse humongous liar with no shred of remorse for your crass mendacity. Now, you have Yet Again, Abandoned this issue and called on me Once Again to Attempt to give you Another Answer for Yet Another Issue, To wit-Knowledge of Him saying "If you don't know him, then you don't know him'".Your capacity for application of logical thoughts is practically non-existent, and is abundantly evidenced in this low-grade rebuttal. Your argument is a catastrophic failure and I implore you, for your sake, to steer clear of my mentions if this is the best you have to offer. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:18pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
You're like a kid screaming so as not to hear what his/her parent is saying, anyway enjoy you illusion. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 1:20pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: LMFAO! Who wanted to make you fall? You've already fallen by lying and being unable to prove your god. Bwahahahaha!
LMFAO! You've finally gone off the reservation. Bwahahahahahahaha! [img]https://media./images/7d5805632ab4841bcac54f5261226b71/tenor.gif[/img] 2 Likes |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:25pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed:Take it!
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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 1:37pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: I receive it! [img]https://media1./images/22456b7f1bc7503e46dc21614e70f4ab/tenor.gif?itemid=4902574[/img] 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:52pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed:
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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by kingxsamz(m): 1:57pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed: Leave that guy abeg. 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by kingxsamz(m): 1:59pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
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Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by LordReed(m): 2:04pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
kingxsamz: I tell you. He is so far off the reservation his compass is pointing West instead of North. |
Re: Proof Of God! Proof Of God!! All Over The Place. by GRIMMJOE(m): 2:14pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed:What he doesn't even understand, his compass doesn't exist, what's been pointing west is his illusion. |
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