Stormtrooper11:

Thats correct

BlackBaron:
Lol.
Dude that complained about ATGM as overkill wants us to 'spam the battlefield' with drones carrying precise ammunition. Someone please make me understand how his brain works.

In this guy's utopia and as 'President of his Republic'. He shall soon start chasing two fleeing boko youths on a motorcycle with drones whilst spamming the firing button.

dragon2:
Drones are not attack platforms.Look at drone designs, air platforms with large long perpendicular wing are designed for high altitude slow speed operations.This is far from what attack platform look like and is more suited for surveillance and taking out HVT ( high value targets) This is the function of these drones,this is what they do. when the US ground forces call in air strikes for CAS it is not Drones that arrives.Drone strikes require lots of preplanned Hummit because the pilots awareness is limited.
Attack aircraft are akin to the regular GI,while drones are to snipers.
Snipers take out high value targets and are deployed away from regulars.
If you are talking about drones for surveillance go ahead and buy, but for attack? please, they are not designed from the onset for attack on ground forces in a battle field, there are platform for that.
The U.S. airforce don't want Tucanos because they already have warthogs. Anyway,the US airforce don't like being called into battle by the army for CAS,they like to make their own decisions than being seen as second to army.
Again,drones are not ground attack platforms but surveillance with limited attack of HVT. If the US saw drones as attack platforms they will retire the Apache,warthog and blackhawk

komekn:


Very simple and short reply.

Go and ask Turkey about all this long baseless rhetoric. And then ask Assad and Haftar how the feel.

Finally, the A10 is being retired and no NATO country has bothered procuring it. I wonder why ❓ ❓

SuperSixSeven:
How much is a Wing Loong II ??

bidex111:



Dude have always ignored your long rubbish posts but this was too much for me to bear and just keep quiet.
You’re really displaying your high level of ignorance, and by the way your picture does not justify the whole trash you posted.

komekn:


Very simple and short reply.

Go and ask Turkey about all this long baseless rhetoric. And then ask Assad and Haftar how the feel.

Finally, the A10 is being retired and no NATO country has bothered procuring it. I wonder why ❓ ❓

Toju200:
A10 is not for sale just as the Raptor but the Raptor has its own case of not been for sale.. but that's not the point here.
Situation in Libya and Nigeria are different.
Hence doesn't compare simple

jpphilips:


US is experimenting using A29 for close air support for Special operations in non contested airspace, it doesn't need to be bought in large numbers, the U27B is performing a support role for Special forces the US has it just 3, number purchased has nothing to do with the efficiency of the asset but purpose.

komekn:


You are now descending into the gutter with your diction. By all means disagree with but substantively not with emotive sentiment based ramblings.

So considering all that have l presented tell me one item that is not a fact or untrue in the first instance. And then you are absolutely entitled to disagree with my opinion but why would be an act of expected courtesy.

It was those facts that underpin my deduction l will concede l may have been slightly ambiguous in my position on the Alpha Jet upgrade. And it could be construed l have given the Alpha Jet ISTAR capability.

The Alpha Jet, for the avoidance of doubt, is not with its very limited loiter time of 3.5 hours is not a viable alternative for ISTAR.

komekn:


You are inadvertently supporting my position.

If the USA truly believed in the efficacy of the A29 why would they have only 3 of these aircraft according to you, that's SHOCKING. When the USAF procures it procurers in hundreds not even in units of 10.

It's common sense that seems to have evaded quite a few here. if the USAF has only three, that in itself tells the story.

dragon2:


The US airforce hates the A10 warthog which they have in 100s what makes you think they will like the A29? Read about it.
Meanwhile ground forces absolutely love the A10.It is obvious the USAF love fast jets. Since the A10 is the property of the airforce other ground force structures (apart from the army) in the US are finding their own solutions.
Apaches are too expensive for them so best cost effective platforms are the tucano and AT6. They ,if approved will definitely not go to the airforce but special forces.

komekn:


You are inadvertently supporting my position.

If the USA truly believed in the efficacy of the A29 why would they have only 3 of these aircraft according to you, that's SHOCKING. When the USAF procures it procurers in hundreds not even in units of 10.

It's common sense that seems to have evaded quite a few here. if the USAF has only three, that in itself tells the story.

dudex82:



The A10 is a very dangerous assets but it’s fucking too expensive to maintain; its one of the most feared aircraft insurgents hate to see.
The war in the Middle East does not look like it’s going to end soon they needed an aircraft that would be easy to maintain and at the same time deliver deferent types of ammunition!

carsprayer:
There is an uploaded video by Sahara Reporters on Facebook where an Army Personel is insulting all the Military Cheifs. This is totally wrong and should be discouraged. If you are tired of the Job, resign and stop insulting your superior.

komekn:


You are now descending into the gutter with your diction. By all means disagree with but substantively not with emotive sentiment based ramblings.

So considering all that have l presented tell me one item that is not a fact or untrue in the first instance. And then you are absolutely entitled to disagree with my opinion but why would be an act of expected courtesy.

It was those facts that underpin my deduction l will concede l may have been slightly ambiguous in my position on the Alpha Jet upgrade. And it could be construed l have given the Alpha Jet ISTAR capability.

The Alpha Jet, for the avoidance of doubt, is not with its very limited loiter time of 3.5 hours is not a viable alternative for ISTAR.

dragon2:


Don't mix things up,if you want to use drones for surveillance,am all for it.Go ahead. If it is for close air support, it's too slow and vulnerable to use based on our doctrine,which the alpha,tucano and mi35 m can fit perfectly.
If for interdiction,this is already being done very well by the alpha jets and would raise costs if introduced. The idea of a "hunting drone" is too expensive for us to implement when cheaper effective options are available. Simply,use the ISR platforms (e.g. beech craft) to find the target and call in the alphas to stafe them.
The idea of using missiles to kill low value targets when rockets can do it just doesn't make sense. When last did BH bring down a plane or helicopter?
Turkish drones use home made missiles to cheapen it,but we don't make missiles so we can't afford to waste it on low value targets.

carsprayer:
There is an uploaded video by Sahara Reporters on Facebook where an Army Personel is insulting all the Military Cheifs. This is totally wrong and should be discouraged. If you are tired of the Job, resign and stop insulting your superior.

Jelal0007:
gutter na where him go always descend into.

carsprayer:
There is an uploaded video by Sahara Reporters on Facebook where an Army Personel is insulting all the Military Cheifs. This is totally wrong and should be discouraged. If you are tired of the Job, resign and stop insulting your superior.

dragon2:


Depends on who you are talking about.
The USAF that hates the A10 think the freaking expensive F35 is the solution, but the special operations command wisely believe that prop planes will do the job in low threat insurgency situations.

dragon2:


Depends on who you are talking about.
The USAF that hates the A10 think the freaking expensive F35 is the solution, but the special operations command wisely believe that prop planes will do the job in low threat insurgency situations.

Jelal0007:
do you know how many soldiers have put in for voluntary retirement but the army refused to let them go? If insulting the service chiefs is what it'll take to raise alarm that people are dying in Nigeria, so be it. Buratai dey craze.

bidex111:


Just finished watching the video ! I doubt if the guy is a soldier, probably he got the camp from somewhere. If not so, the consequences will be severe!

Xbee007:

O lord!

USAF ordered only 3 units of Super Tucano and another 3 units of AT-6 Wolverine because they are for experimental purpose. The experiment will commence once delivery starts in 2021. It's only after the experiment that the correctness of the hypotheses can be determined.

USAF wanted a high performance, low budget plane that can perform wonderfully in uncontested airspace / low threat environment. And the A-29 Super Tucano is that plane. The Super Tucano has excellent battlefield record that cannot be overemphasized so it's highly likely to win that experiment. After the experiment USAF will then go ahead with initially cancelled order of 360 units.

The problem with you is that you're unable to change even in the face of new information. And a man with an unchanging mind is doomed.

carsprayer:


Between running away (AWOL) and Insulting the Military Cheifs? Which is worse?

bidex111:





Insulting chiefs !

bidex111:





Insulting chiefs !