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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by greenskittles: 9:04am On Jun 24, 2020
Skillset11:

Why would I lie.
My sister @Bossoflife25 told me that these schools were suggested here on this platform for full funding.
Please I am open to more suggestions.
You can apply to places like UT Austin, UCLA, UC Berkeley, University of Washington, Stanford, and even shoot for a few ivy league schools like Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Duke. With those scores and a compelling statement of purpose (the SOP is honestly very very important) I feel somewhat certain that you'd have a good shot. Also, you can still apply to those safeties as a backup plan. If you have the money, apply to as many as you can. It's not uncommon to apply to up to 10 schools for undergraduate studies, especially since they're less specialized than graduate school (if you can afford it), let the headache you'll have to worry about be which school's offer to accept or decline.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by researcher107: 10:21am On Jun 24, 2020
fairheart:


Yes. However, the Consular officer did not specifically state the reason for my refusal.
Yes, I was not told the reason for the refusal.
Yes, the consular may have refused my visa application because I could not convince him/her that I'm a credible student.


These are just sample. What do you think might have caused your refusal during the interview? Think about it, and craft a short 1 or 2 sentences in the box available for answer. Your response will NOT be used against you during the next interview.

But prepare for your next interview, whether it will be next month, in December or next year. Look at the responses you gave during the interview and see how to strengthen them for a positive outcome next time.
Best of luck.


Thank you very much. I was going to write the feedback I got from the consular. "Your visa cannot be issued at this time but you're welcome to re-apply".

Will this be okay?

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by francophone134: 11:04am On Jun 24, 2020
Please i need IELTS exam prep book. Please who has. My email is kelvinomhonria@gmail.com. thanks all
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Northeastern: 11:04am On Jun 24, 2020
TWoods:


That is just false... simply, utterly false.
Well done the smart one, I never knew we only consider part of a sentence to make assertions.
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by LagosismyHome(f): 11:17am On Jun 24, 2020
Northeastern:

Well done the smart one, I never knew we only consider part of a sentence to make assertions.

There is no job for one nationality ....so saying

Most H1B jobs can not be performed by Americans, do you guys think any American company would choose an Indian with a heavy accent over a citizen?

I think it is incorrect.

That a company chooses to give equal opportunities in some roles to migrants and also diversify their work place is probably the driver to why immigrants are given this opportunity and also perhaps shortage of skillset within the american population . Also there are benefit in a diverse workplace hence some companies put some structure in place to ensure diversity. That doesnt mean that no American can do it .

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Northeastern: 11:35am On Jun 24, 2020
LagosismyHome:


There is no job for one nationality ....so saying

Most H1B jobs can not be performed by Americans, do you guys think any American company would choose an Indian with a heavy accent over a citizen?

I think it is incorrect.

That a company chooses to give equal opportunities in some roles to migrants and also diversify their work place is probably the driver to why immigrants are given this opportunity and also perhaps shortage of skillset within the american population . Also there are benefit in a diverse workplace hence some companies put some structure in place to ensure diversity. That doesnt mean that no American can do it .

Aunty, how far have they gone with diversity within the US that international diversity would now be their focus? I stand by what I said o, most of the H1B jobs are only available because they don't have substitutes that are locals.

Before una continue dey argue, go and check the companies that get the highest H1B visas and see the sectors they service. Out 85k, the top 3 companies applied for 50k in 2020. I hope you guys know the guys and sectors those 3 companies service and who they hire.

Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by greenskittles: 12:25pm On Jun 24, 2020
Northeastern:


Aunty, how far have they gone with diversity within the US that international diversity would now be their focus? I stand by what I said o, most of the H1B jobs are only available because they don't have substitutes that are locals.

Before una continue dey argue, go and check the companies that get the highest H1B visas and see the sectors they service. Out 85k, the top 3 companies applied for 50k in 2020. I hope you guys know the guys and sectors those 3 companies service and who they hire.

I think I agree with you, because practically, it makes sense for them to hire an American if they could. Yes, maybe there are Americans who could take those jobs, but not perform at the level of the immigrant they hired instead. But in a lot of cases they're highly specialized jobs that they couldn't find an American for. I don't see why a company would go through the trouble of sponsoring visas, and hoping that their candidate would win the H1-B visa lottery (because entering the lottery doesn't even guarantee selection), paying all sorts of fees and dealing with uncertainty when they could've just avoided the headache by hiring an American. It means the immigrant is bringing something special to the table... So this new executive order is just weird. America has always been known for being able to attract the best and brightest from all over the world and now Trump wants to end that. There was a petition not too long ago that garnered so many signatures to move some top Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence conference locations away from the US because many of the top researchers around the world couldn't even get visas.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by horlahsunbo225(m): 12:31pm On Jun 24, 2020
greenskittles:


I think I agree with you, because practically, it makes sense for them to hire an American if they could. Yes, maybe there are Americans who could take those jobs, but not perform at the level of the immigrant they hired instead. But in a lot of cases they're highly specialized jobs that they couldn't find an American for. I don't see why a company would go through the trouble of sponsoring visas, and hoping that their candidate would win the H1-B visa lottery (because entering the lottery doesn't even guarantee selection), paying all sorts of fees and dealing with uncertainty when they could've just avoided the headache by hiring an American. It means the immigrant is bringing something special to the table... So this new executive order is just weird. America has always been known for being able to attract the best and brightest from all over the world and now Trump wants to end that. There was a petition not too long ago that garnered so many signatures to move some top Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence conference locations away from the US because many of the top researchers around the world couldn't even get visas.

The conference is NeurIPS and it's Canada, unless you're talking about another conference
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by greenskittles: 12:46pm On Jun 24, 2020
horlahsunbo225:


The conference is NeurIPS and it's Canada, unless you're talking about another conference

I know of the one you're talking about, but there are others. The petition was trending on reddit at the time.

https://medium.com/syncedreview/abandon-us-petition-protests-ai-conference-visa-denials-b90dd5a808c4
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by olasubomy: 4:05pm On Jun 24, 2020
Hello house - Please which is a better option in these two deciding factors especially with this COVID 19 saga. For admitted Graduate students for the Fall 2020 (1) Resume online class for the Fall 2020 and obtain the i-20 documents so when embassy opens later in the year or whenever they open, to proceed for the interview as student that resumed for the fall with the intention of travelling to the US to continue the studies or (2) Defer the admission till the Spring 2021 and obtain a fresh I-20 for the Visa interview . Which do you think would be more convincing to the visa officials becuase i suspect questions like VO: Did you defer your admission and why?
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by iwriterng(m): 4:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
Saying no Americans can do the job is wrong.

A more informed way to say it would be; very few Americans are qualified to fill those positions; resulting in skill shortage in some sectors.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by kastgeraldino: 4:57pm On Jun 24, 2020
I guess some factors to consider include age, current job position, funding and possibility of getting another job. I don't really think it's gonna be an issue with visa officials as long as you can make your case for any position. Since I'm paying next to nothing for my MBA and age ain't really on my side, I'll just resume online. Moreover, I've started working with a professor on my Graduate Assistantship even before resumption so that I can chill, relax, socialize (albeit virtually), and network when classes resume. If I were younger and was earning like 1.2m per month, then I would have just deferred and focused on work. Just try to be as pragmatic as possible.

olasubomy:
Hello house - Please which is a better option in these two deciding factors especially with this COVID 19 saga. For admitted Graduate students for the Fall 2020 (1) Resume online class for the Fall 2020 and obtain the i-20 documents so when embassy opens later in the year or whenever they open, to proceed for the interview as student that resumed for the fall with the intention of travelling to the US to continue the studies or (2) Defer the admission till the Spring 2021 and obtain a fresh I-20 for the Visa interview . Which do you think would be more convincing to the visa officials becuase i suspect questions like VO: Did you defer your admission and why?

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by olasubomy: 6:23pm On Jun 24, 2020
15499. kastgeraldino: Thank you for the intelligent response, that is really another perspective to it. The reason i am considering a deferment of admission is the current environment which might not be conducive for studying due to the stress of working from home. Most times i work late into the night and not to talk of lots of demands from work. So i would not want to register for the fall online and start with average grades nor just few As in my result because of little time to study. But i would think through your advice deeply and discuss with my academic advisor then make a final decision. Thanks again.
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 7:20pm On Jun 24, 2020
Northeastern:


Aunty, how far have they gone with diversity within the US that international diversity would now be their focus? I stand by what I said o, most of the H1B jobs are only available because they don't have substitutes that are locals.

Before una continue dey argue, go and check the companies that get the highest H1B visas and see the sectors they service. Out 85k, the top 3 companies applied for 50k in 2020. I hope you guys know the guys and sectors those 3 companies service and who they hire.

I think LagosismyHome has some very strong points in her comment. It is not correct that no Americans can do those jobs. There are!
Diversity in workplace enriches it in so many ways that the image of the Data you posted did not reveal to you. There are even organizations in the US that made it a rule that they must employ foreigners on work visas, but not because there are no workers within the US that can do them, even well enough, but because having diverse minds in an organisation makes it strong to compete in and out of its field. You know why? All the people on H1B did not grow up in the US, which means, they have completely different orientation, perspective, insight, different ideas that Americans who grew up in America certainly didn't have--even when pooled in the same field.

Think about Google CEO, then Elon Musk, and other great minds in the tech sector in the US; these people did not grow up in America. I can tell you for a fact, and based on my own personal experience, if Elon Musk had not left South Africa in 1988, his life would have turned differently. The scope of ideas and what you contribute to an organization vision can be limited by where you grow up; a man who spent the first 30 years of his life in Nigeria will not have the same set of ideas, and energy for contribution--which is what drives all these giant organizations that employ people on H1B--if he grow up in America during the same year. Every organizations on earth are aware of this. Why do you think company in Nigeria would go to Indian, China, to look for potential manager, foremen, analyst, etc to fill a position that demands innovation? Because they want diverse workforce at the top rung, for wide and better ideas.

I'm also sure you saw the news of a Harvard professor Lieber that China secretly recruited? Why do you think China wants an American professor, ready to pay him so much? Because no professor in China that can fill the post? Na. It's because China cannot risk limiting itself to its environment. For that, having diverse mind in the field the professor is recruited to work is the answer.

By bringing foreigners to the US to work, these organizations are armed with diverse ideas from diverse people from different part of the world, deepening their root, and and taping into those minds to expand and compete.

For going to the US yourself, your level of knowledge and how you see life and your field has been influenced and expanded, and enriched.
If you are to return to Nigeria after studies for work, you will certainly have some edge over those who never left. What did that tell us? There are certainly Americans that can fill those H1B jobs, but an organization that really wants to expand its scope and influence, and not shrink, but compete in a world that INNOVATIVE IDEAS rule, will NEVER limit its workforce to its country of origin -- or it will suffer a lot of disadvantages. This is why it will be IMPOSSIBLE for Trump to permanently ban H1B visa! He cannot succeed in this area, because any attempt to stop foreign workers from coming to the US to work in those organizations will limit their ability to tap into diverse minds, from different countries, for such organization enrichment. This is how it works!

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Deltayankeeboi: 7:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
fairheart:


I think LagosismyHome has some very strong points in her comment. It is not correct that no Americans can do those jobs. There are!
Diversity in workplace enriches it in so many ways that the image of the Data you posted did not reveal to you. There are even organizations in the US that made it a rule that they must employ foreigners on work visas, but not because there are no workers within the US that can do them, even well enough, but because having diverse minds in an organisation makes it strong to compete in and out of its field. You know why? All the people on H1B did not grow up in the US, which means, they have completely different orientation, perspective, insight, different ideas that Americans who grew up in America certainly didn't have--even when pooled in the same field.

Think about Google CEO, then Elon Musk, and other great minds in the tech sector in the US; these people did not grow up in America. I can tell you for a fact, and based on my own personal experience, if Elon Musk had not left South Africa in 1988, his life would have turned differently. The scope of ideas and what you contribute to an organization vision can be limited by where you grow up; a man who spent the first 30 years of his life in Nigeria will not have the same set of ideas, and energy for contribution--which is what drives all these giant organizations that employ people on H1B--if he grow up in America during the same year. Every organizations on earth are aware of this. Why do you think company in Nigeria would go to Indian, China, to look for potential manager, foremen, analyst, etc to fill a position that demands innovation? Because they want diverse workforce at the top rung, for wide and better ideas.

By bringing foreigners to the US to work, these organizations are armed with diverse ideas from diverse people from different part of the world, deepening their root, and and taping into those minds to expand and compete.

For going to the US yourself, your level of knowledge and how you see life and your field has been influenced and expanded, and enriched.
If you are to return to Nigeria after studies for work, you will certainly have some edge over those who never left. What did that tell us? There are certainly Americans that can fill those H1B jobs, but an organization that really wants to expand its scope and influence, and not shrink, but compete in a world that INNOVATIVE IDEAS rule, will NEVER limit its workforce to its country of origin -- or it will suffer a lot of disadvantages. This is why it will be IMPOSSIBLE for Trump to permanently ban H1B visa! He cannot succeed in this area, because any attempt to stop foreign workers from coming to the US to work in those organizations will limit their ability to tap into diverse minds, from different countries, for such organization enrichment. This is how it works!
Please pass me your joint of reasoning.
This is the best post I have read all day.

I wish I can like your post a million times.

You said it all, there is nothing more to say.

Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by greenskittles: 9:06pm On Jun 24, 2020
fairheart:


I think LagosismyHome has some very strong points in her comment. It is not correct that no Americans can do those jobs. There are!
Diversity in workplace enriches it in so many ways that the image of the Data you posted did not reveal to you. There are even organizations in the US that made it a rule that they must employ foreigners on work visas, but not because there are no workers within the US that can do them, even well enough, but because having diverse minds in an organisation makes it strong to compete in and out of its field. You know why? All the people on H1B did not grow up in the US, which means, they have completely different orientation, perspective, insight, different ideas that Americans who grew up in America certainly didn't have--even when pooled in the same field.

Think about Google CEO, then Elon Musk, and other great minds in the tech sector in the US; these people did not grow up in America. I can tell you for a fact, and based on my own personal experience, if Elon Musk had not left South Africa in 1988, his life would have turned differently. The scope of ideas and what you contribute to an organization vision can be limited by where you grow up; a man who spent the first 30 years of his life in Nigeria will not have the same set of ideas, and energy for contribution--which is what drives all these giant organizations that employ people on H1B--if he grow up in America during the same year. Every organizations on earth are aware of this. Why do you think company in Nigeria would go to Indian, China, to look for potential manager, foremen, analyst, etc to fill a position that demands innovation? Because they want diverse workforce at the top rung, for wide and better ideas.

I'm also sure you saw the news of a Harvard professor Lieber that China secretly recruited? Why do you think China wants an American professor, ready to pay him so much? Because no professor in China that can fill the post? Na. It's because China cannot risk limiting itself to its environment. For that, having diverse mind in the field the professor is recruited to work is the answer.

By bringing foreigners to the US to work, these organizations are armed with diverse ideas from diverse people from different part of the world, deepening their root, and and taping into those minds to expand and compete.

For going to the US yourself, your level of knowledge and how you see life and your field has been influenced and expanded, and enriched.
If you are to return to Nigeria after studies for work, you will certainly have some edge over those who never left. What did that tell us? There are certainly Americans that can fill those H1B jobs, but an organization that really wants to expand its scope and influence, and not shrink, but compete in a world that INNOVATIVE IDEAS rule, will NEVER limit its workforce to its country of origin -- or it will suffer a lot of disadvantages. This is why it will be IMPOSSIBLE for Trump to permanently ban H1B visa! He cannot succeed in this area, because any attempt to stop foreign workers from coming to the US to work in those organizations will limit their ability to tap into diverse minds, from different countries, for such organization enrichment. This is how it works!

Really good points

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Nedu712: 1:46am On Jun 25, 2020
Hi everyone, I'm new here. I have a Higher National Diploma and would love to do my masters degree, I'm told I could get the IL material for studying here. Please I need your help
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by TWoods(m): 2:09am On Jun 25, 2020
Northeastern:


Aunty, how far have they gone with diversity within the US that international diversity would now be their focus? I stand by what I said o, most of the H1B jobs are only available because they don't have substitutes that are locals.

Before una continue dey argue, go and check the companies that get the highest H1B visas and see the sectors they service. Out 85k, the top 3 companies applied for 50k in 2020. I hope you guys know the guys and sectors those 3 companies service and who they hire.

The top 3 companies on your list are indian consultancy services. In other words, these are not product companies, they simply exist to provide cheap labor to American companies. I know them quite well - Tata Consultancy was a major supplier of IT services to Dow Chemical Company in Michigan where i worked for 2 years. I recall when Tata moved and built their office in Midland in 2011. A Nigerian friend of mine worked for Dow as a Tata consultant and lived in the same apartment i did.

I say all that to arrive at a point - it is absolutely false that all those consultancies provide services that Americans cannot do. The Tata consultants essentially replaced American IT staff - some of whom were my buddies at Dow at the time, precisely for one reason - they are cheaper than Americans! Look at the salaries paid. The average salaries are below $90,000 for some jobs in the Bay area. Can you imagine an American taking an IT job in the bay area for $85,000?

Here is an ongoing lawsuit accusing Disney of replacing its American IT staff with Cognizant cheap IT labor from India on H1Bs. https://www.wftv.com/news/local/former-workers-sue-disney-consulting-companies-over-layoffs/40163464/

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by TWoods(m): 2:20am On Jun 25, 2020
fairheart:

For going to the US yourself, your level of knowledge and how you see life and your field has been influenced and expanded, and enriched.
If you are to return to Nigeria after studies for work, you will certainly have some edge over those who never left. What did that tell us? There are certainly Americans that can fill those H1B jobs, but an organization that really wants to expand its scope and influence, and not shrink, but compete in a world that INNOVATIVE IDEAS rule, will NEVER limit its workforce to its country of origin -- or it will suffer a lot of disadvantages. This is why it will be IMPOSSIBLE for Trump to permanently ban H1B visa! He cannot succeed in this area, because any attempt to stop foreign workers from coming to the US to work in those organizations will limit their ability to tap into diverse minds, from different countries, for such organization enrichment. This is how it works!

Not true. Trump cannot ban the H1B visa simply because it is a law, passed by congress [Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H)]. Only Congress can reverse a law, a president can only tinker around it by issuing executive orders or via Agency regulations (these do not change the law but seek to interpret it as congress intended).

Secondly, it is untrue that America absolutely needs the H1B visa. The H1B visa as we know it came to being in 1990. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, HP were already in existence. America had already invented the internet, made it to the moon and was the world's most powerful economy. The idea that America needs the H1B is completely overblown and does not concur with reality.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by klawaaa: 7:00am On Jun 25, 2020
Make una stay there. Many immigrantion laws that has been adjusted under gee. When Trump finally complete his 8 years in white house, America immigration would never remain as it use to be before he became the president.
TWoods:


Not true. Trump cannot ban the H1B visa simply because it is a law, passed by congress [Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H)]. Only Congress can reverse a law, a president can only tinker around it by issuing executive orders or via Agency regulations (these do not change the law but seek to interpret it as congress intended).

Secondly, it is untrue that America absolutely needs the H1B visa. The H1B visa as we know it came to being in 1990. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, HP were already in existence. America had already invented the internet, made it to the moon and was the world's most powerful economy. The idea that America needs the H1B is completely overblown and does not concur with reality.
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by waynee2baba: 8:45am On Jun 25, 2020
TWoods:



Secondly, it is untrue that America absolutely needs the H1B visa. The H1B visa as we know it came to being in 1990. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, HP were already in existence. America had already invented the internet, made it to the moon and was the world's most powerful economy. The idea that America needs the H1B is completely overblown and does not concur with reality.

An Indian student with a PhD from MIT or Stanford returning back to India won't open up a job for some random high school graduate simply because he's American. The Govt. should look into consulting companies like Tata that abuse H1B visas. Let Trump continue so that silicon valley companies will expand their offices in Canada, Germany, London and Switzerland and Software Engineers in EU can start earning "blood money" like our colleagues in the US. Tech pay in EU is peanuts right now compared to the US. New grads in US tech companies will be sitting on 250k/year total TC compared to the misreable £65-85k in Europe for the same new grad role. Canada is even worse lmao.

From the tech perspective, Indians and Chinese go through rigorous education system and have built that work ethic to carry out extensive ground breaking researches in advanced areas like Machine Learning, Big Data and AI. You think an average American will put in such efforts? H1B immigrants work harder because they are usually threatened with being fired. The average American just wants to earn enough to pay bills, buy coffee and go on short holidays once every year. I'm not saying they're lazy but they have an idgaf attitude and are usually not committed to work compared to H1B workers. Heard of 996 in China?

Another reason America needs H1B is diversity. Diversity makes teams more creative and also contributes to better decision-making. CEO of Google, Microsoft, Nokia, Albertsons, MasterCard, Adobe and other top tech companies are Indians. Europeans and other nationalities came on H1B, got GC and created millions of jobs that employed Americans.

Majority of H1B immigrants don't even commit crimes because they're highly educated and just want a better future for themselves and their families. Like I said, I'm lowkey happy because these companies might expand here in EU and will boost our TC but you saying Americans don't need H1B workers is false. Tbh, with the recent happenings, most people of colour might just perish the idea of moving to America sef.

Police brutality here in the UK is lower compared to the US plus UK cops don't carry guns... only tasers and UK is bringing back 2 years and relaxing requirements for Tier 2 visa, students might start reconsidering tbh.

Trump obviously did this to make his supporters happy because of the upcoming elections.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 10:32am On Jun 25, 2020
TWoods:


Not true. Trump cannot ban the H1B visa simply because it is a law, passed by congress [Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H)]. Only Congress can reverse a law, a president can only tinker around it by issuing executive orders or via Agency regulations (these do not change the law but seek to interpret it as congress intended).

Secondly, it is untrue that America absolutely needs the H1B visa. The H1B visa as we know it came to being in 1990. Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle, HP were already in existence. America had already invented the internet, made it to the moon and was the world's most powerful economy. The idea that America needs the H1B is completely overblown and does not concur with reality.

I think I had the first paragraph in mind when I left that comment, which is why I said the President cannot ban it. I know H1B is a law, and I know it'll take Congress, and Congress will not do it because of its advantage to American organizations.

As for the second paragraph, look at the History of America and how it was developed. Don't forget, the US was built on the ideas and by the hands of people from all over the world, not merely Americans, but people from all over the world! And history have it that this is one of the reasons it became so powerful, influential and prosperous. I am sure you know this history.
Foreigners have always been part of that development, even foreign workers--before the H1B law was enacted!!! Companies that were founded in the U.S doesn't have monopoly on ideas or all-powerful when it comes to competition in and out of America, and that is why these companies always tap minds from other Nations. It is not because these organizations need foreign workers, say essential; it's because they 'want' or desire foreign workers, even beyond cheap labour as you stated. I think we are saying the same thing, but do not remove the importance of having a diverse workforce from this.

When the desire for something and having it (i.e taping the minds of people from diverse environment for stronger workfore and better output) becomes a source of strength for an organization, that desire makes what is desired a necessity. H1B visa is very important to US organizations, more than the so-called cheap labour they might be offering to these organizations, because no big organization will limit its workforce to its country of origin. If you doubt this, write to Google , Apple, or Ernst & Young and ask why they employ foreign workers!

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 10:40am On Jun 25, 2020
waynee2baba:


An Indian student with a PhD from MIT or Stanford returning back to India won't open up a job for some random high school graduate simply because he's American. The Govt. should look into consulting companies like Tata that abuse H1B visas. Let Trump continue so that silicon valley companies will expand their offices in Canada, Germany, London and Switzerland and Software Engineers in EU can start earning "blood money" like our colleagues in the US. Tech pay in EU is peanuts right now compared to the US. New grads in US tech companies will be sitting on 250k/year total TC compared to the misreable £65-85k in Europe for the same new grad role. Canada is even worse lmao.

From the tech perspective, Indians and Chinese go through rigorous education system and have built that work ethic to carry out extensive ground breaking researches in advanced areas like Machine Learning, Big Data and AI. You think an average American will put in such efforts? H1B immigrants work harder because they are usually threatened with being fired. The average American just wants to earn enough to pay bills, buy coffee and go on short holidays once every year. I'm not saying they're lazy but they have an idgaf attitude and are usually not committed to work compared to H1B workers. Heard of 996 in China?

Another reason America needs H1B is diversity. Diversity makes teams more creative and also contributes to better decision-making. CEO of Google, Microsoft, Nokia, Albertsons, MasterCard, Adobe and other top tech companies are Indians. Europeans and other nationalities came on H1B, got GC and created millions of jobs that employed Americans.

Majority of H1B immigrants don't even commit crimes because they're highly educated and just want a better future for themselves and their families. Like I said, I'm lowkey happy because these companies might expand here in EU and will boost our TC but you saying Americans don't need H1B workers is false. Tbh, with the recent happenings, most people of colour might just perish the idea of moving to America sef.

Police brutality here in the UK is lower compared to the US plus UK cops don't carry guns... only tasers and UK is bringing back 2 years and relaxing requirements for Tier 2 visa, students might start reconsidering tbh.

Trump obviously did this to make his supporters happy because of the upcoming elections.

Very sound perspective here.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 10:59am On Jun 25, 2020
researcher107:


Thank you very much. I was going to write the feedback I got from the consular. "Your visa cannot be issued at this time but you're welcome to re-apply".

Will this be okay?
"I was told my visa cannot be issued at this time but and that I'm welcome to re-apply".
I think this is cool.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by fairheart(m): 11:01am On Jun 25, 2020
Nedu712:
Hi everyone, I'm new here. I have a Higher National Diploma and would love to do my masters degree, I'm told I could get the IL material for studying here. Please I need your help

Can you re-craft you question?

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by geooxygen(m): 1:22pm On Jun 25, 2020
greenskittles:

You can apply to places like UT Austin, UCLA, UC Berkeley, University of Washington, Stanford, and even shoot for a few ivy league schools like Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Duke. With those scores and a compelling statement of purpose (the SOP is honestly very very important) I feel somewhat certain that you'd have a good shot. Also, you can still apply to those safeties as a backup plan. If you have the money, apply to as many as you can. It's not uncommon to apply to up to 10 schools for undergraduate studies, especially since they're less specialized than graduate school (if you can afford it), let the headache you'll have to worry about be which school's offer to accept or decline.

Weldone bro, which top school admitted you with full funding, I want to write Gre in October for PhD Geology/Geophysics.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Tulacious123: 1:56pm On Jun 25, 2020
Good afternoon all.Please can anyone help me with a current GRE materials? I am yet to register but want to start reading pending when I do the registration. Thanks and God bless you.Below is my mail.

kejuempower@gmail.com

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by quasarJose: 3:01pm On Jun 25, 2020
geooxygen:


Weldone bro, which top school admitted you with full funding, I want to write Gre in October for PhD Geology/Geophysics.

I am also co-asking with you. My specialization is geared towards earth sciences, and I would like to know the prospects.
Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jun 25, 2020
quasarJose:


I am also co-asking with you. My specialization is geared towards earth sciences, and I would like to know the prospects.

Check Georgia State University

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by TWoods(m): 5:04pm On Jun 25, 2020
waynee2baba:


An Indian student with a PhD from MIT or Stanford returning back to India won't open up a job for some random high school graduate simply because he's American. The Govt. should look into consulting companies like Tata that abuse H1B visas. Let Trump continue so that silicon valley companies will expand their offices in Canada, Germany, London and Switzerland and Software Engineers in EU can start earning "blood money" like our colleagues in the US. Tech pay in EU is peanuts right now compared to the US. New grads in US tech companies will be sitting on 250k/year total TC compared to the misreable £65-85k in Europe for the same new grad role. Canada is even worse lmao.

From the tech perspective, Indians and Chinese go through rigorous education system and have built that work ethic to carry out extensive ground breaking researches in advanced areas like Machine Learning, Big Data and AI. You think an average American will put in such efforts? H1B immigrants work harder because they are usually threatened with being fired. The average American just wants to earn enough to pay bills, buy coffee and go on short holidays once every year. I'm not saying they're lazy but they have an idgaf attitude and are usually not committed to work compared to H1B workers. Heard of 996 in China?

Another reason America needs H1B is diversity. Diversity makes teams more creative and also contributes to better decision-making. CEO of Google, Microsoft, Nokia, Albertsons, MasterCard, Adobe and other top tech companies are Indians. Europeans and other nationalities came on H1B, got GC and created millions of jobs that employed Americans.

Majority of H1B immigrants don't even commit crimes because they're highly educated and just want a better future for themselves and their families. Like I said, I'm lowkey happy because these companies might expand here in EU and will boost our TC but you saying Americans don't need H1B workers is false. Tbh, with the recent happenings, most people of colour might just perish the idea of moving to America sef.

Police brutality here in the UK is lower compared to the US plus UK cops don't carry guns... only tasers and UK is bringing back 2 years and relaxing requirements for Tier 2 visa, students might start reconsidering tbh.

Trump obviously did this to make his supporters happy because of the upcoming elections.

If the above is true then why are we all rushing to live there? Was America developed by foreigners? I think this predilection to accuse the “average American” of having less work ethic than immigrants is laughable. America put a man on the moon 30 years before they opened the door to the H1b. If Indians are that great, why haven’t they turned India into a super power?

The comments here are unreal.

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by TWoods(m): 5:16pm On Jun 25, 2020
fairheart:


I think I had the first paragraph in mind when I left that comment, which is why I said the President cannot ban it. I know H1B is a law, and I know it'll take Congress, and Congress will not do it because of its advantage to American organizations.

As for the second paragraph, look at the History of America and how it was developed. Don't forget, the US was built on the ideas and by the hands of people from all over the world, not merely Americans, but people from all over the world! And history have it that this is one of the reasons it became so powerful, influential and prosperous. I am sure you know this history.
Foreigners have always been part of that development, even foreign workers--before the H1B law was enacted!!! Companies that were founded in the U.S doesn't have monopoly on ideas or all-powerful when it comes to competition in and out of America, and that is why these companies always tap minds from other Nations. It is not because these organizations need foreign workers, say essential; it's because they 'want' or desire foreign workers, even beyond cheap labour as you stated. I think we are saying the same thing, but do not remove the importance of having a diverse workforce from this.

When the desire for something and having it (i.e taping the minds of people from diverse environment for stronger workfore and better output) becomes a source of strength for an organization, that desire makes what is desired a necessity. H1B visa is very important to US organizations, more than the so-called cheap labour they might be offering to these organizations, because no big organization will limit its workforce to its country of origin. If you doubt this, write to Google , Apple, or Ernst & Young and ask why they employ foreign workers!

Sorry to say... Canada and the UK have had similar liberal immigration policies. In fact I’d argue that until 1990, the US immigration policy was far more insular, so exactly why aren’t those countries as powerful as the US economically?

While it is true that America gives an opportunity to recruit the very best around the world, the frank truth is that >98% of h1b applicants are simply average and no better than the average American. For every Elon Musk, we have hundreds of thousands of average economic migrants who simply use the H1b as an avenue to emigrate to the US.

Let’s not over-inflate the impact of the H1b because it makes us feel better.

Here is my last point on this issue... >85% of H1b holders are indian, if these foreign workers were so crucial to google, Apple etc. then please explain why India has not created its own version of those companies and simply provides cheap labor?

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Re: General USA Student Visa Enquiries-part 15 by greenskittles: 5:53pm On Jun 25, 2020
geooxygen:


Weldone bro, which top school admitted you with full funding, I want to write Gre in October for PhD Geology/Geophysics.
I was accepted to Stanford University for a degree in Civil Engineering. More specifically Computational Geomechanics. So I can't really say for sure on which schools are the best for Geology, because they're not exactly the same. But I think schools in South should have greater prospects and greater funding for Geology**, most especially Texas and other neighbouring states. But first you'll need to take the GRE, and evaluate your chances based of your university transcripts.

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