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Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by YEBOmadiba: 3:38pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
Minxie: You are right it's a free for all in SA, that's why the locals are fed up. You need to say these things coz no one is saying them in Nigeria. Even their leaders lie to them to cover their own mistakes. Their media is the worst when it comes to fake news in Africa and tell them hundreds of Nigerians were killed last year and burned alive, when just about 13 people died and most were south Africans. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 3:46pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
YEBOmadiba: Yeah the media is the worst! I'm really surprised when I read comments about how people are afraid to be killed in SA for being Nigerian. It's like they think we each walk with a gun and just shoot people at random when they "look" Nigerian. I think their government enjoys the fake news because it takes the attention away from their own screw ups. I'm also surprised at the propaganda being circulated by the government over-inflating their own achievements. And people just believe this. 2 Likes |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by YEBOmadiba: 7:18pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
Minxie: Did u hear the one that they are the ones that caused our current recession because they left after last year's attacks, and now we don't have skills and investment? They don't even feature in the top20 countries that invest in SA. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Mastakija(m): 11:24pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
when i saw south africa stuff shit i already knew twas ganna b #Tmk South eleebu always trying to prove nonsense |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Akinola100: 12:13am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:So.... ShopRite, MTN, DSTV, Multichoice are owned by south Africans. You said an average south African doesn't have the means to open any business in South Africa. How did this get here then? Any African can come to Nigeria to start up a business, although not easy, but perseverance and hardwork can make he/she successful in Nigeria.So you can start up a business here. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 12:49am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:Don't the majority of coloureds vote for the DA? Just saying |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 12:50am On Jun 27, 2020 |
YEBOmadiba:The Majority of the DAs voters are coloured |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 12:52am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:I agree 100%!!! Education and Job creation is the only sustainable and effective way of dealing with inequality and poverty in SA!! 1 Like |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Dyonne: 12:56am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie: There's an easy way to do this but you must be prepared to fall in love first I could find a strapping young bloke for you and your move to Lagos becomes stress free. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Dyonne: 1:00am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie: You can open a business in Nigeria, pay a lawyer he'll do it for you. You're welcome Minxie. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:01am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: Actually no, they voted for the DA because of Patricia De lille and what they promised at the time. And even then it wasn't many coloureds. maybe 50%. There are too many white people outnumbering us here Lol! I doubt so many coloureds would vote for them in the next election because I hear a lot of mumbling and outright dissatisfaction about the DA. I think whoever promises to give the land back in the Western Cape will get the vote Hahaha |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:04am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Dyonne: I would love to but the overall business environment isn't too friendly. I can see Nigerian businesses struggling, imagine how hard it will be for a foreign business. But I would really like to tap into Nigeria's tourism and hospitality industry though... aaaaah a girl can only dream... |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by YEBOmadiba: 1:11am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: Especially since the whites moved to the FF+. But Minxie is right, the ousting of de Lille and Maimane was the undoing of the DA. Ive voted for them in 2 general elections but NO MORE - Im black. I'm waiting to see what Mashaba has in store. I'm hoping he's not a one-issue man: illegal immigration. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:25am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:Only 17% of people in Western cape is white yet the DA got 55.5% of the vote in 2019............You do the math FYI the DA has actually been more successful with their land redistribution policy than the ANC.........and they actual give title deeds!! |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:30am On Jun 27, 2020 |
YEBOmadiba:Agree 100% with what you are saying!! After the way the DA handled the De Lille saga as well as corruption allegations I also decided not to vote for the DA last year......... And yes!!! I was/am a massive supporter of Mashaba and will definitely be voting for his party once he created one!! 2 Likes |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:33am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: You are forgetting that not only coloureds voted for them. their black support base here was also strong. People didn't vote for them because of their color but because of what they promised and represented. However as soon as their actual agenda came to light, people realised their mistake. It's not just the land distribution... it's the gentrification in cape Town... People are very unhappy about that and it will affect the DA's position. They promised the people one thing and then turned around to do the opposite. The DAs success with land is actually one of the reasons that motivated many coloreds to vote for them. Obviously things changed... Can't wait for the drama in the next election! yikes |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:34am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: many people share this sentiment about the DA |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:39am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:The fact remains that the majority of DA voters are colourdes regardless of what we think of the DA!! Bolded: the DA's land policy never changed? dont know what you mean by this statement? |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:41am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:I only voted for the DA because I simply had no better option, not because I like the DA!! But with Mashaba I genuinely feel excited to vote for someone I really believe in!! at least now i can vote for a party I want to, I don't have to pick the lesser devil like in previous elections. 1 Like |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:45am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: No I don't deny that. I'm saying that many people have realized that the DA is "deurmekaar" and they don't have the same ideology anymore. I don't really know much because my area is more ANC than DA. And I suck at South African politics But thanks for giving me statistics I never knew the DA had such a huge coloured support base. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:46am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: So true! i was thinking of playing eanie meanie miny mo at the next election Lol 1 Like |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:48am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:YES!! 100% correct....they don't know what they want to be!! a liberal capitalist party like they used to be or a socialist ANC lite....hence why they lost not just white voters but also Black and coloured voters who were fed up with ANC policies!! Where are you from if I may ask? |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 1:49am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:that's literally what I did last year!! except I excluded certain parties for that game though.........Cough ..........ANC..............Cough.............EFF 2 Likes |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 1:52am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: I hate this question because I've moved around so many times (only in 1 province though)... Let's just say I'm from the Boland in the Western Cape. I'm looking forward to moving again though. I'm one of those people who can't stay in one place for more than a year I don't even have a permanent place of residence lol ! where are you from? |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Dyonne: 1:56am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie: Well that's another thing entirely. And we dont actually think of things as "foreign businesses" (with possible exceptions for cultural stuff like cuisine, arts and entertainment etc). Its just business, something new and different. We may know its owned by a foreigner but we dont think of it that way. I dont think anyone thinks of mtn, dstv, shoprite as foreign (except when the chips are down ). They are part of the landscape and so would yours be. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 2:02am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Dyonne: definitely, im sure the people will be fine but it's just a very harsh business environment. There's also such a big difference between SA and Nigeria. without proper understanding of consumer demands and the market, my business will surely fail. I mean, if shoprite can't successfully penetrate the market, what chance do I have? lol but thanks for your interest in listening to my future business ventures |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Dyonne: 2:11am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie: Proper understanding of consumer demands... Right! I didn't want to type too much before but when you said businesses struggle in Nigeria, I wanted to raise this point. It's very important to a business but overlooked or underestimated by many. Also the business climate isnt as smooth as it could be but still many businesses overcome it. Why do you think shoprite cant/hasn't fully penetrated the market? They seem to do well anywhere they set up shop. Do you run a business in S.A? |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by YEBOmadiba: 2:22am On Jun 27, 2020 |
jln115: Lol . Ramaphosa saved the ANC. It was a sinking ship. EFF definitely NOT. Even it's staunchest supporters are disgruntled about their immigration policy. But VBS is what disgusts me. |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Minxie(f): 2:26am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Dyonne: Just based on the lack of shoprite stores in Nigeria. It has the potential to have more stores in Nigeria than South Africa according to population statistics. I think South African companies have approached Nigeria the same way they approached South Africa. They didn't get to know the people of Nigeria and assumed they are the same as South Africans. They didn't spend time with the average Nigerian to properly identify what is wanted and what is needed. They approached the rich Nigerians and forgot the poor. They completely neglected the socio economic responsibility and I think this especially would've given them proper marketing in Nigeria. Poor people see those stores as out of their reach. It's up to these companies to make the average citizen feel like they need them and want them. You can't want and need something that you feel no connection to. Like I would rather buy a gatsby from a takeout place than a gatsby at a fancy five star restaurant. I won't feel connected to the five star restaurant because it doesn't have my vibe. whereas the normal take out joint speaks to my culture and social circle. This is obviously just my opinion... No unfortunately I don't own a business. I'm still paying off student debt Lol but I'm here talking like I know things ! please don't take my opinions as me trying to be an expert |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Dyonne: 2:39am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie: I see what you're saying about the potential of shoprite in Nigeria and I agree with you to some extent. I still think shoprite has done well wherever it has been able to set up and will do well if it chooses locations properly. As to why it's not everywhere, I think some politics is at play in that regard. I also know what you mean about the Gatsby takeout vs 5 Star restaurant. I think most people feel that way too. Not to worry, theres something for everyone. When I want to feel down to earth, I know where to go. When I want to feel like I'm doing well in life, I also know where to go A friend once told me, "Dyon if you're eating and you dont see a single fly, be very careful about that place but if you see flies, you can relax and eat whatever you like". Its not to be taken literally but theres a meaning behind that, can you decipher it? If you're paying off student debt, then you've graduated. Can I ask what you studied? 1 Like |
Re: BLACKLIVESMATTER: Is This What Awaits African-americans Fleeing To South Africa? by Nobody: 3:05am On Jun 27, 2020 |
Minxie:So not to far from me currently in Mossel Bay 1 Like |
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