According to allah himself, muslims are supposed to fight even when they don't feel like fighting.
MuhaMAD and allah taught muslims that fighting against anyone who doesn't believe in Islam is their religious duty.

MuhaMAD attacked the people of Khaibar because they refused to convert to Islam


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haekymbahd:
Note i repeat Allah is not àgainst fighting get that only if the muslims were oppressed From this post it showed the prophet warned them before attacking them.

So tell me what did they do and why was he warning them then I will judge.

U cant just be cherry picking stuff and post it

ContractKiller:
According to allah himself, muslims are supposed to fight even when they don't feel like fighting.
MuhaMAD and allah taught muslims that fighting against anyone who doesn't believe in Islam is their religious duty.

MuhaMAD attacked the people of Khaibar because they refused to convert to Islam


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I told you to paste the preceding verse it seems you won't let me help you then

Allah SWT said:

كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ وَهُوَ كُرْهٌ لَّكُمْ  ۖ وَعَسٰىٓ أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ  ۖ وَعَسٰىٓ أَنْ تُحِبُّوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ شَرٌّ لَّكُمْ  ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
"Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 216)
Allah SWT said:

يَسْئَلُونَكَ عَنِ الشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ قِتَالٍ فِيهِ  ۖ قُلْ قِتَالٌ فِيهِ كَبِيرٌ  ۖ وَصَدٌّ عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَكُفْرٌۢ بِهِۦ وَالْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَإِخْرَاجُ أَهْلِهِۦ مِنْهُ أَكْبَرُ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ  ۚ وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَكْبَرُ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ  ۗ وَلَا يَزَالُونَ يُقٰتِلُونَكُمْ حَتّٰى يَرُدُّوكُمْ عَنْ دِينِكُمْ إِنِ اسْتَطٰعُوا  ۚ وَمَنْ يَرْتَدِدْ مِنْكُمْ عَنْ دِينِهِۦ فَيَمُتْ وَهُوَ كَافِرٌ فَأُولٰٓئِكَ حَبِطَتْ أَعْمٰلُهُمْ فِى الدُّنْيَا وَالْأَاخِرَةِ  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ أَصْحٰبُ النَّارِ  ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خٰلِدُونَ
"They ask you about the sacred month - about fighting therein. Say, Fighting therein is great [sin], but averting [people] from the way of Allah and disbelief in Him and [preventing access to] al-Masjid al-Haram and the expulsion of its people therefrom are greater [evil] in the sight of Allah. And fitnah is greater than killing. And they will continue to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they are able. And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever - for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 217)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Stop cherry picking Quran verse to portray your lies.

Allah's criminality was not just limited to Surah 2:216. There are over 150 violent verses in the koran which advocate war against unbelievers simply because they rejected Islam as a false religion and regard muhammad as a fake prophet.

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haekymbahd:
I told you to paste the preceding verse it seems you won't let me help you then

Allah SWT said:

كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ وَهُوَ كُرْهٌ لَّكُمْ  ۖ وَعَسٰىٓ أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ  ۖ وَعَسٰىٓ أَنْ تُحِبُّوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ شَرٌّ لَّكُمْ  ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
"Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 216)
Allah SWT said:

يَسْئَلُونَكَ عَنِ الشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ قِتَالٍ فِيهِ  ۖ قُلْ قِتَالٌ فِيهِ كَبِيرٌ  ۖ وَصَدٌّ عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ وَكُفْرٌۢ بِهِۦ وَالْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَإِخْرَاجُ أَهْلِهِۦ مِنْهُ أَكْبَرُ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ  ۚ وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَكْبَرُ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ  ۗ وَلَا يَزَالُونَ يُقٰتِلُونَكُمْ حَتّٰى يَرُدُّوكُمْ عَنْ دِينِكُمْ إِنِ اسْتَطٰعُوا  ۚ وَمَنْ يَرْتَدِدْ مِنْكُمْ عَنْ دِينِهِۦ فَيَمُتْ وَهُوَ كَافِرٌ فَأُولٰٓئِكَ حَبِطَتْ أَعْمٰلُهُمْ فِى الدُّنْيَا وَالْأَاخِرَةِ  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ أَصْحٰبُ النَّارِ  ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خٰلِدُونَ
"They ask you about the sacred month - about fighting therein. Say, Fighting therein is great [sin], but averting [people] from the way of Allah and disbelief in Him and [preventing access to] al-Masjid al-Haram and the expulsion of its people therefrom are greater [evil] in the sight of Allah. And fitnah is greater than killing. And they will continue to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they are able. And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever - for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 217)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Stop cherry picking Quran verse to portray your lies.

ContractKiller:
Allah's criminality was not just limited to Surah 2:216. There are over 150 violent verses in the koran which advocate war against unbelievers simply because they rejected Islam as a false religion and regard muhammad as a fake prophet.

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Will u ever stop cherry picking verses to propagate your lies

Allah SWT said:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلَا يَقْرَبُوا الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هٰذَا  ۚ وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللَّهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِۦٓ إِنْ شَآءَ  ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ
"O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 28)

Allah SWT said:

قٰتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتٰبَ حَتّٰى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صٰغِرُونَ
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

It is obvious Allah revealed this verse to Muhammed in medinah an Islamic country. Now Allah told the muslims not to allow the unbelievers to enter the sacred mosque anymore because they are unclean. Now (jizya means tax) hope you know so for the unbelievers to stay Allah ordered the muslims to collect tax from them. If they pay it no problem they continue to live on their daily live and worship whatever they want to worship.
Paying tax is a normal in all countries not only Islamic countries. but according to the verse the muslims don't pay tax because it is their country. From what you posted It seems the tax is even low. Allah Akbar.

Now compare this to Yahwe/christ that destoyed a whole generation by ordering the killing of women, children, infant, nursing babies, animals because they are worshipping another God.

Now tell me who is criminal Allah or Yahwe

Allah sticks to his commandment no regrets. But ur Yahwe violent in the past he regretted his actions and became a loving God.

I repeat Allah is the same Yesterday, Today and Forever, ur Yahwe/Christ is not the same following commandment today and abolishing it tomorrow after realising his mistakes he doesn't stick to his words he might even become semi violent in future who knows.


Allah SWT said:

قُلْ ءَامَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ عَلٰىٓ إِبْرٰهِيمَ وَإِسْمٰعِيلَ وَإِسْحٰقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَآ أُوتِىَ مُوسٰى وَعِيسٰى وَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِنْ رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُۥ مُسْلِمُونَ
"Say, We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 84)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Pls justify this act by your God

. How reasonable can it ever be that Yahweh will command his servant to walk the streets naked and then He said he intends to use that as a SIGN AND WONDER!!!.
See evidence:

Isaiah: 20. 2. At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. 3. And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; 4. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. - Bible Offline

My own is follow whatever religion you want but don't preach falsehood about a religion because it is different to yours.

I repeat Boko haram, Isis are not the true Muslims like @Contractkiller said because they do not follow the word of Allah which is the Quran.

Allah SWT said:

وَالَّذِينَ لَا يَدْعُونَ مَعَ اللَّهِ إِلٰهًا ءَاخَرَ وَلَا يَقْتُلُونَ النَّفْسَ الَّتِى حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ وَلَا يَزْنُونَ  ۚ وَمَنْ يَفْعَلْ ذٰلِكَ يَلْقَ أَثَامًا
"And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty."
(QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 68)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Edakun, Pls.

@Contract killer

What is their sin for your Yahwe/Christ to order this pls don't shift post

13That certain base fellows have gone out from your midst and have enticed away the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods--gods you have not known--

14Then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it is true and certain that such an abominable thing has been done among you,

15You shall surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all who are in it and its beasts with the edge of the sword.

16And you shall collect all its spoil into the midst of its open square and shall burn the city with fire with every bit of its spoil [as a whole burnt offering] to the Lord your God. It shall be a heap [of ruins] forever; it shall not be built again.

17And nothing of the accursed thing shall cling to your hand, so that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of His anger, and show you mercy and have compassion on you and multiply you, as He swore to your fathers,

18If you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep all His commandments which I command you this day, to do what is right in the eyes of the Lord your God.
(Deuteronomy 13:13:19)

Justify this act of your Yahwe/Christ @ContractKiller

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haekymbahd:

Will u ever stop cherry picking verses to propagate your lies

Allah SWT said:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلَا يَقْرَبُوا الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هٰذَا  ۚ وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللَّهُ مِنْ فَضْلِهِۦٓ إِنْ شَآءَ  ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ
"O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 28)

Allah SWT said:

قٰتِلُوا الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلَا بِالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتٰبَ حَتّٰى يُعْطُوا الْجِزْيَةَ عَنْ يَدٍ وَهُمْ صٰغِرُونَ
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
(QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 29)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

It is obvious Allah revealed this verse to Muhammed in medinah an Islamic country. Now Allah told the muslims not to allow the unbelievers to enter the sacred mosque anymore because they are unclean. Now (jizya means tax) hope you know so for the unbelievers to stay Allah ordered the muslims to collect tax from them. If they pay it no problem they continue to live on their daily live and worship whatever they want to worship.
Paying tax is a normal in all countries not only Islamic countries. but according to the verse the muslims don't pay tax because it is their country. From what you posted It seems the tax is even low. Allah Akbar.

Now compare this to Yahwe/christ that destoyed a whole generation by ordering the killing of women, children, infant, nursing babies, animals because they are worshipping another God.

Now tell me who is criminal Allah or Yahwe

Allah sticks to his commandment no regrets. But ur Yahwe violent in the past he regretted his actions and became a loving God.

I repeat Allah is the same Yesterday, Today and Forever, ur Yahwe/Christ is not the same following commandment today and abolishing it tomorrow after realising his mistakes he doesn't stick to his words he might even become semi violent in future who knows.


Allah SWT said:

قُلْ ءَامَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ عَلٰىٓ إِبْرٰهِيمَ وَإِسْمٰعِيلَ وَإِسْحٰقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَآ أُوتِىَ مُوسٰى وَعِيسٰى وَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِنْ رَّبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُۥ مُسْلِمُونَ
"Say, We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 84)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

haekymbahd:
@Contract killer

What is their sin for your Yahwe/Christ to order this pls don't shift post justify it.

13That certain base fellows have gone out from your midst and have enticed away the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods--gods you have not known--

14Then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it is true and certain that such an abominable thing has been done among you,

15You shall surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all who are in it and its beasts with the edge of the sword.

16And you shall collect all its spoil into the midst of its open square and shall burn the city with fire with every bit of its spoil [as a whole burnt offering] to the Lord your God. It shall be a heap [of ruins] forever; it shall not be built again.

17And nothing of the accursed thing shall cling to your hand, so that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of His anger, and show you mercy and have compassion on you and multiply you, as He swore to your fathers,

18If you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep all His commandments which I command you this day, to do what is right in the eyes of the Lord your God.
(Deuteronomy 13:13:19)

@contractKiller u still need to reply this hope you know.

haekymbahd:
Pls justify this act by your God

. How reasonable can it ever be that Yahweh will command his servant to walk the streets naked and then He said he intends to use that as a SIGN AND WONDER!!!.
See evidence:

Isaiah: 20. 2. At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. 3. And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; 4. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. - Bible Offline

Pls @Contract killer Justify this

ContractKiller:
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I proved to you that Allah is the same Yestersay, Today and forever. Now prove that Yahwe/Jesus is the same a god that can't stand on his words regretting his actions.

Show me some of the Abrogated verses of the Quran I want to learn

On the satanic verses I thought your Bible taught you that Satan can't cast out Satan I can't remember the verse. Maybe your Bible is a false book then.

And on the Kaaba issue
Allah SWT said:

وَإِذْ قَالَ إِبْرٰهِـۧمُ رَبِّ اجْعَلْ هٰذَا بَلَدًا ءَامِنًا وَارْزُقْ أَهْلَهُۥ مِنَ الثَّمَرٰتِ مَنْ ءَامَنَ مِنْهُمْ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ  ۖ قَالَ وَمَنْ كَفَرَ فَأُمَتِّعُهُۥ قَلِيلًا ثُمَّ أَضْطَرُّهُۥٓ إِلٰى عَذَابِ النَّارِ  ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ
"And [mention] when Abraham said, My Lord, make this a secure city and provide its people with fruits - whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day. [Allah] said. And whoever disbelieves - I will grant him enjoyment for a little; then I will force him to the punishment of the Fire, and wretched is the destination."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 126)

Allah SWT said:

وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرٰهِـۧمُ الْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ الْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمٰعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّآ  ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And [mention] when Abraham was raising the foundations of the House and [with him] Ishmael, [saying], Our Lord, accept [this] from us. Indeed You are the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 127)

Allah SWT said:

رَبَّنَا وَاجْعَلْنَا مُسْلِمَيْنِ لَكَ وَمِنْ ذُرِّيَّتِنَآ أُمَّةً مُّسْلِمَةً لَّكَ وَأَرِنَا مَنَاسِكَنَا وَتُبْ عَلَيْنَآ  ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ
"Our Lord, and make us Muslims [in submission] to You and from our descendants a Muslim nation [in submission] to You. And show us our rites and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 128)



* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba it was generations after them that worshipped idol there the Kaaba was reclaimed.

Also on the issue of tax I explain they pay tax in every country even Nigeria here for the country development not religion open ears very well and let it sink. If it were for religion they would have sent them out of the country then. My brother do you pay your tax.


And on the surah 3:151 u quoted if u don't know something seek for knowledge do you know what the unbelievers did they attacked first Allah is just in judgement not Yahwe follow commandment today and abolish tomorrow who knows what will happen in future.

Allah SWT said:

سَنُلْقِى فِى قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا الرُّعْبَ بِمَآ أَشْرَكُوا بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِۦ سُلْطٰنًا  ۖ وَمَأْوٰىهُمُ النَّارُ  ۚ وَبِئْسَ مَثْوَى الظّٰلِمِينَ
"We will cast terror (read ru‘b or ru‘ub) into the hearts of the disbelievers: after departing from Uhud they resolved to return in order to exterminate the Muslims, but they were terrified and did not return; for what they have associated, because of their associating, with God that for which He has revealed no warrant, that is, [no] argument in support of its worship, namely, idols; their abode shall be the Fire; evil is the abode, the resting place, of the evildoers, the disbelievers."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 151)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Do you get that people can lie sha.

Well done contractKiller.

How come these Moslem guys can't even explain the portions of the Koran they quote? It's like all they do is regurgitate what they've crammed because they don't understand it.

Islam stands or falls on what its books and prophet propounded not on what modern day adherents want us to accept.

sagenaija:
Well done contractKiller.

How come these Moslem guys can't even explain the portions of the Koran they quote? It's like all they do is regurgitate what they've crammed because they don't understand it.

Islam stands or falls on what its books and prophet propounded not on what modern day adherents want us to accept.

Tell us the verse they can't explain o @Contract killer has been evading my questions. I have answere d all his questions u can help to answer it seems he has no clue.

haekymbahd:
@Contract killer

What is their sin for your Yahwe/Christ to order this pls don't shift post

13That certain base fellows have gone out from your midst and have enticed away the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods--gods you have not known--

14Then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it is true and certain that such an abominable thing has been done among you,

15You shall surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all who are in it and its beasts with the edge of the sword.

16And you shall collect all its spoil into the midst of its open square and shall burn the city with fire with every bit of its spoil [as a whole burnt offering] to the Lord your God. It shall be a heap [of ruins] forever; it shall not be built again.

17And nothing of the accursed thing shall cling to your hand, so that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of His anger, and show you mercy and have compassion on you and multiply you, as He swore to your fathers,

18If you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep all His commandments which I command you this day, to do what is right in the eyes of the Lord your God.
(Deuteronomy 13:13:19)

Justify this act of your Yahwe/Christ @ContractKiller

justify this act by your Yahwe/Christ @ContractKiller. From your name who knows Yahwe might hire u like he hired Samuel and Saul.

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@ ContractKiller are u for Christianity or paulinity

Matthew 5:17:20
17Do not think that I have come to do away with or [ab]undo the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to do away with or undo but to complete and fulfill them.

18For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things [it foreshadows] are accomplished.

19Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Question: What if we accept Jesus as lord and savior but our rightousness is not more than scribe or Pharisees then what is the essence of Jesus dieng for your sin[/size][size=8pt]


How do Allah define righteousness
Allah SWT said:

لَّيْسَ الْبِرَّ أَنْ تُوَلُّوا وُجُوهَكُمْ قِبَلَ الْمَشْرِقِ وَالْمَغْرِبِ وَلٰكِنَّ الْبِرَّ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَالْمَلٰٓئِكَةِ وَالْكِتٰبِ وَالنَّبِيِّۦنَ وَءَاتَى الْمَالَ عَلٰى حُبِّهِۦ ذَوِى الْقُرْبٰى وَالْيَتٰمٰى وَالْمَسٰكِينَ وَابْنَ السَّبِيلِ وَالسَّآئِلِينَ وَفِى الرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَءَاتَى الزَّكٰوةَ وَالْمُوفُونَ بِعَهْدِهِمْ إِذَا عٰهَدُوا  ۖ وَالصّٰبِرِينَ فِى الْبَأْسَآءِ وَالضَّرَّآءِ وَحِينَ الْبَأْسِ  ۗ أُولٰٓئِكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْمُتَّقُونَ
"Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 177)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Tell me what does the paul you say about rightousness. Lol u are under the period of grace

Are u team Paul or Jesus or Allah

Allah and Jesus believe in rightousness but Paul believe in Grace doesn't who is Paul's now God.

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haekymbahd:
justify this act by your Yahwe/Christ @ContractKiller. From your name who knows Yahwe might hire u like he hired Samuel and Saul.

ContractKiller:
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Allah is too great for my liking every false post you make Quran the most trusted book of we muslims keep debunking it try again bro
Allah SWT said:

الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِى فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وٰحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ  ۖ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِى دِينِ اللَّهِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ  ۖ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment."
(QS. An-Noor 24: Verse 2)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

ContractKiller:
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Allah is too great for my liking every false post you make Quran the most trusted book of we muslims keep debunking it try again bro
Allah SWT said:

الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِى فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وٰحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ  ۖ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِى دِينِ اللَّهِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ  ۖ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment."
(QS. An-Noor 24: Verse 2)

Allah SWT said:

وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ الْمُحْصَنٰتِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَآءَ فَاجْلِدُوهُمْ ثَمٰنِينَ جَلْدَةً وَلَا تَقْبَلُوا لَهُمْ شَهٰدَةً أَبَدًا  ۚ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْفٰسِقُونَ
"And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient,"
(QS. An-Noor 24: Verse 4)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Did Allah other anyone to stone someone to death. Hope u read hr bible and saw when your Yahwe told u to stone witches....

Bro stop lying

haekymbahd:
@ ContractKiller are u for Christianity or paulinity

Matthew 5:17:20
17Do not think that I have come to do away with or [ab]undo the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to do away with or undo but to complete and fulfill them.

18For truly I tell you, until the sky and earth pass away and perish, not one smallest letter nor one little hook [identifying certain Hebrew letters] will pass from the Law until all things [it foreshadows] are accomplished.

19Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least [important] of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least [important] in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I tell you, unless your righteousness (your uprightness and your right standing with God) is more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Question: What if we accept Jesus as lord and savior but our rightousness is not more than scribe or Pharisees then what is the essence of Jesus dieng for your sin[/size][size=8pt]


How do Allah define righteousness
Allah SWT said:

لَّيْسَ الْبِرَّ أَنْ تُوَلُّوا وُجُوهَكُمْ قِبَلَ الْمَشْرِقِ وَالْمَغْرِبِ وَلٰكِنَّ الْبِرَّ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَالْمَلٰٓئِكَةِ وَالْكِتٰبِ وَالنَّبِيِّۦنَ وَءَاتَى الْمَالَ عَلٰى حُبِّهِۦ ذَوِى الْقُرْبٰى وَالْيَتٰمٰى وَالْمَسٰكِينَ وَابْنَ السَّبِيلِ وَالسَّآئِلِينَ وَفِى الرِّقَابِ وَأَقَامَ الصَّلٰوةَ وَءَاتَى الزَّكٰوةَ وَالْمُوفُونَ بِعَهْدِهِمْ إِذَا عٰهَدُوا  ۖ وَالصّٰبِرِينَ فِى الْبَأْسَآءِ وَالضَّرَّآءِ وَحِينَ الْبَأْسِ  ۗ أُولٰٓئِكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا  ۖ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْمُتَّقُونَ
"Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 177)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Tell me what does the paul you say about rightousness. Lol u are under the period of grace

Are u team Paul or Jesus or Allah

Allah and Jesus believe in rightousness but Paul believe in Grace doesn't who is Paul's now God.

What is your view on righteousness and how can you define it?[/size][size=8pt]

@ Contract killer answer the above question add this to it

17And as He was setting out on His journey, a man ran up and knelt before Him and asked Him, Teacher, [You are [j]essentially and perfectly [k]morally] good, what must I do to inherit eternal life [that is, [l]to partake of eternal salvation in the Messiah's kingdom]?

18And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.

19You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.(D)

20And he replied to Him, Teacher, I have carefully guarded and observed all these and taken care not to violate them from my boyhood.

21And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and He said to him, You lack one thing; go and sell all you have and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come [and] accompany Me [[q]walking the same road that I walk].

Mark 10:17:21

Who abolished law was it Jesus or Paul?

Are u following paulinity or Christianity

haekymbahd:
Tell us the verse they can't explain o @Contract killer has been evading my questions. I have answere d all his questions u can help to answer it seems he has no clue.

Allah speaks from both sides of the mouth.

That is why even Moslems try to look for how to justify what he says. The claim that some Koranic verses are Medinan and others Meccan is an attempt at such justification.

Now, this thread, if I understand the OP, is about the fact that ISIS and Boko Haram are Moslem groups following the teachings of the Koran.

You, on the other hand, claim that it is not so, stating that where, for instance, there is talk about sex slaves, it is not captives but concubines that are referred to.

When the OP quoted from one of your books - the hadith, you came up with the same old Moslem disclaimer: "concerning the hadith we have the strong, weak and false based on source".

Please tell us; are the weak hadiths rejected in Islam? If so, why are they still being kept? Do you now see your Moslem hypocrisy and deceitfulness? When it serves your purpose you hold it up, when it does not you hide under 'weak' or 'false'. Why has been difficult for Islam to identify and stick to a single set of 'authorised' hadith?

You quoted chapter 17:33. Did you notice that after "... do not kill..." what followed was "... except by right"? Who or what interprets that EXCEPTION? So, how does that amount to 'Moslems cannot kill' like you claim?

You cleverly avoided explaining chapter 2:216 - " Fighting is ordained for you..." How come? Where did Allah say "fight only if you're oppressed"? Who oppressed the Moslems before the attack of Khaybar by Mohamed?

What of chapter 9:29 "Fight against such of those who believe not in Allah..."?

I hope you know that your explanation about Medina being an Islamic enclave does not hold water. Medina was previously a Jewish city, not an Islamic one. Mohamed went there and slaughtered hundreds of Jews, including EVERY teenager no matter how young who had pubic hair.  And renamed the city Medina from its previous name YATHRIB. Read your islamic history and have the clear picture.

Your teachers must be feeding you all with lies, wanting you to have a picture of Islam and Allah that the Koran or Mohamed NEVER presented.

haekymbahd:
@ Contract killer answer the above question add this to it

17And as He was setting out on His journey, a man ran up and knelt before Him and asked Him, Teacher, [You are [j]essentially and perfectly [k]morally] good, what must I do to inherit eternal life [that is, [l]to partake of eternal salvation in the Messiah's kingdom]?

18And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.

19You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.(D)

20And he replied to Him, Teacher, I have carefully guarded and observed all these and taken care not to violate them from my boyhood.

21And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and He said to him, You lack one thing; go and sell all you have and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come [and] accompany Me [[q]walking the same road that I walk].

Mark 10:17:21

Who abolished law was it Jesus or Paul?

Are u following paulinity or Christianity

@Sagenaija read the above post and tell me who abolished law Jesus or paul or Yahwe?

sagenaija:

Allah speaks from both sides of the mouth.

That is why even Moslems try to look for how to justify what he says. The claim that some Koranic verses are Medinan and others Meccan is an attempt at such justification.

Now, this thread, if I understand the OP, is about the fact that ISIS and Boko Haram are Moslem groups following the teachings of the Koran.

You, on the other hand, claim that it is not so, stating that where, for instance, there is talk about sex slaves, it is not captives but concubines that are referred to.

When the OP quoted from one of your books - the hadith, you came up with the same old Moslem disclaimer: "concerning the hadith we have the strong, weak and false based on source".

Please tell us; are the weak hadiths rejected in Islam? If so, why are they still being kept? Do you now see your Moslem hypocrisy and deceitfulness? When it serves your purpose you hold it up, when it does not you hide under 'weak' or 'false'. Why has been difficult for Islam to identify and stick to a single set of 'authorised' hadith?

You quoted chapter 17:33. Did you notice that after "... do not kill..." what followed was "... except by right"? Who or what interprets that EXCEPTION? So, how does that amount to 'Moslems cannot kill' like you claim?

You cleverly avoided explaining chapter 2:216 - " Fighting is ordained for you..." How come? Where did Allah say "fight only if you're oppressed"? Who oppressed the Moslems before the attack of Khaybar by Mohamed?

What of chapter 9:29 "Fight against such of those who believe not in Allah..."?

I hope you know that your explanation about Medina being an Islamic enclave does not hold water. Medina was previously a Jewish city, not an Islamic one. Mohamed went there and slaughtered hundreds of Jews, including EVERY teenager no matter how young who had pubic hair.  And renamed the city Medina from its previous name YATHRIB. Read your islamic history and have the clear picture.

Your teachers must be feeding you all with lies, wanting you to have a picture of Islam and Allah that the Koran or Mohamed NEVER presented.

Lol.. We've moved to weak hadith, strong and false okay.

Now answer this how many gospel books of the bible exist?

Why was gospel of barnabas, gospel of Thomas, gospel of peter, gospel of truth, gospel of Mary e.t.c excluded from the bible while they favour gospel of Matthew, Mark, John and Luke.
Tell me why does some verses of the 4 gospels narrating the same event contradict each other e.g crucifiction.

Also was only gospel of John that said this

IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([a]Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God [b]Himself

Were other Apostles not present they should have mention that in their Gospels too so why should I believe it?


Now Judge for yourself which book speaks with both side of the mouth Quran or Bible.

Bible that is confusing about Jesus does not know its nature sometime it calls Jesus God, Son of God, Son of Man, Prophet, Servant, Son of Mary, Son of David. Which one do we want to believe.

Allah stance in the Quran is clear Your God is one.

When Jesus was alive he preached the gospel "Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand" j can't remember the verse. Now tell me Repent from what I guess "Sin" if Jesus preached when he was alive who abolished law. Cos without law there cannot be sin.


I need your answer.

haekymbahd:
Lol.. We've moved to weak hadith, strong and false okay.
I need your answer.

I took you up on the things that you wrote.
Instead of reacting to what I presented here you are going off to some other issues. Do you see how Islam makes a mess of your reasoning? Take me up on what I wrote; if you can. But I doubt it. It was you who mentioned strong, weak and false hadiths in the first place. And here you are not able to answer a simple question on whether Islam rejects any of them and if so why they haven't been discarded.

Show me first if ANY of what I wrote is wrong. If not, what makes you still remain in Islam in spite of its oddities and contradictions? Tell us if your reason for remaining in Islam is because you enjoy its bizarre nature and the logical incongruity it stands for.

Is there ANYTHING in Islam that makes groups like the ISIS and Boko Haram do what they do and claim that they are doing it for Allah? The plain answer is 'Yes'. Then why are the rest of you lying to the world that they are not Moslems? Why the deceit?

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haekymbahd:
Allah is too great for my liking every false post you make Quran the most trusted book of we muslims keep debunking it try again bro
Allah SWT said:

الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِى فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وٰحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ  ۖ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِى دِينِ اللَّهِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ  ۖ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment."
(QS. An-Noor 24: Verse 2)

Allah SWT said:

وَالَّذِينَ يَرْمُونَ الْمُحْصَنٰتِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَأْتُوا بِأَرْبَعَةِ شُهَدَآءَ فَاجْلِدُوهُمْ ثَمٰنِينَ جَلْدَةً وَلَا تَقْبَلُوا لَهُمْ شَهٰدَةً أَبَدًا  ۚ وَأُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْفٰسِقُونَ
"And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient,"
(QS. An-Noor 24: Verse 4)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Did Allah other anyone to stone someone to death. Hope u read hr bible and saw when your Yahwe told u to stone witches....

Bro stop lying

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haekymbahd:
@ Contract killer answer the above question add this to it

17And as He was setting out on His journey, a man ran up and knelt before Him and asked Him, Teacher, [You are [j]essentially and perfectly [k]morally] good, what must I do to inherit eternal life [that is, [l]to partake of eternal salvation in the Messiah's kingdom]?

18And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.

19You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.(D)

20And he replied to Him, Teacher, I have carefully guarded and observed all these and taken care not to violate them from my boyhood.

21And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and He said to him, You lack one thing; go and sell all you have and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come [and] accompany Me [[q]walking the same road that I walk].

Mark 10:17:21

Who abolished law was it Jesus or Paul?

Are u following paulinity or Christianity

ContractKiller:

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Go and meet your pastor let him tell you the difference between grace and righteousness it shows you don't read your bible. Let him tell Apostle Paul's view on Grace and Righteousness.

Who taught you Grace Jesus Christ or Paul?

Why did bernabas and Paul had disagreement on salvation?

Acts 15

1BUT SOME men came down from Judea and were instructing the brethren, Unless you are circumcised in accordance with the Mosaic custom, you cannot be saved.(A)
2And when Paul and Barnabas had no small disagreement and discussion with them, it was decided that Paul and Barnabas and some of the others of their number should go up to Jerusalem [and confer] with the apostles (special messengers) and the elders about this matter.

When you show me how Grace contradicts Righteousness, I'll start believing that you have at least a few functional brain cells.
Meanwhile tell me more about the inability of the unchanging allah to protect his plagiarised book

haekymbahd:
Go and meet your pastor let him tell you the difference between grace and righteousness it shows you don't read your bible. Let him tell Apostle Paul's view on Grace and Righteousness.

ContractKiller:
When you show me how Grace contradicts Righteousness, I'll start believing that you have at least a few functional brain cells.
Meanwhile tell me more about the inability of the unchanging allah to protect his plagiarised book

Acts 15

1BUT SOME men came down from Judea and were instructing the brethren, Unless you are circumcised in accordance with the Mosaic custom, you cannot be saved.(A)
2And when Paul and Barnabas had no small disagreement and discussion with them, it was decided that Paul and Barnabas and some of the others of their number should go up to Jerusalem [and confer] with the apostles (special messengers) and the elders about this matter.

5But some who believed [who [b]acknowledged Jesus as their Savior and devoted themselves to Him] belonged to the sect of the Pharisees, and they rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise [the Gentile converts] and to charge them to obey the Law of Moses.

They asked elders instead of Jesus see religion.

That is Paul the one who wrote more than half of the new testament not even sure of himself.

If we have Gospel of Paul we should also have Gospel of bernabas.

Does Gospel of barnabas exist? Yes it does.

Why is it not in the bible I need answer from you.


That verse shows that after death of Christ some Christians still believe in the law while Paul opposed it. Now another why did the Christians propagate Paul's view and reject others?



Now back to your question as a christian what will happen to a Muslim who dies without accepting Jesus as Lord and savior but believes there is one God Allah and his rightousness is more than the scribe and pharases.
Answer this and let me see how functional your brain is as a christian. If u answer it there lies your answer between grace and righteousness.

If some early Christians after death of Christ still believes in the law. Should we say they didn't see or hear that Jesus died on the cross. That's definitely show something is fishy about the death of Christ. Now the Christian s of nowadays chose gospels that suits and rejects the other is this religion no it is relationship with God lol.

Shalom.

haekymbahd:
Acts 15

1BUT SOME men came down from Judea and were instructing the brethren, Unless you are circumcised in accordance with the Mosaic custom, you cannot be saved.(A)
2And when Paul and Barnabas had no small disagreement and discussion with them, it was decided that Paul and Barnabas and some of the others of their number should go up to Jerusalem [and confer] with the apostles (special messengers) and the elders about this matter.

They asked elders instead of Jesus see religion.

That is Paul the one who wrote more than half of the new testament not even sure of himself.

That verse shows that after death of Christ some Christians still believe in the law while Paul opposed it. Now another why did the Christians propagate Paul's view and reject others?

I wonder why many of you have warped thinking. What goes on in your heads?

Did the matter you are trying to bring up end in that verse you quoted? No! All it takes is just to go through to the end and see how the matter was RESOLVED. But being mischievous you must do what you accuse others of: pick and choose.

Is Apostle Paul condemned in your islamic books? No! But you don't know that because you are only regurgitating what your teachers tell you. What does your islamic sources say about Apostle Paul?

See this:
 https://www.nairaland.com/5115204/christian-prince-muslim-keep-attacking

And this:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPW2WixCv40

And this:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsHdFphuLLc

sagenaija:
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I wonder why many of you have warped thinking. What goes on in your heads?

Did the matter you are trying to bring up end in that verse you quoted? No! All it takes is just to go through to the end and see how the matter was RESOLVED. But being mischievous you must do what you accuse others of: pick and choose.

Is Apostle Paul condemned in your islamic books? No! But you don't know that because you are only regurgitating what your teachers tell you. What does your islamic sources say about Apostle Paul?

See this:
 https://www.nairaland.com/5115204/christian-prince-muslim-keep-attacking

And this:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPW2WixCv40

And this:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsHdFphuLLc

summarize how the matter ended and i don't have data to watch it.

Act 15:5
5But some who believed [who [b]acknowledged Jesus as their Savior and devoted themselves to Him] belonged to the sect of the Pharisees, and they rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise [the Gentile converts] and to charge them to obey the Law of Moses.

Is that what you want me to see how the matter was settled abi.
What did Jesus teach before he died what did they teach after him and who settled the matter humans not God himself why was there confusion in the first place that's the question.

Christianity is a scam!!!!!!!!!

Which is the true form of Christianity accepted by God tell me.

I think the Christianity of today was decided by the elders not God.

Satan spoke to Paul hence no record of him in the Quran he was not a prophet.

I bet your pastors don't tell you people this. They will now be preaching prosperity and payiny of tithe.