In U.S. that is.
And what lesson can we learn from that?
And why is it that 50% of the marriages end in divorce? (See below)
And what lesson can we learn from that too?

Wives generally are annoying

Dobson43:
Wives generally are annoying

Must be the opposite - they are the ones filling for divorce.
They no wan do again

after divorce, women get richer in usa

Because most women think the matrimonial home is equated to their fathers' homes.

Ladies that are not submissive in their fathers' house will be taught a lesson in marriage.

Most women nowadays are advocates of the feminist movement which means men and women should have an equal right at home.

Women need the closure more than men to move on. Easier for a man to dump a toxic marriage & move on even without a divorce.

jidamsel43:
Because most women think the matrimonial home is equated to their fathers' homes

Meaning?

engrtee:
after divorce, women get richer in usa

You might be on to something.

CanadaOrBust:
In U.S. that is.
And what lesson can we learn from that?
And why is it that 50% of the marriages end in divorce? (See below)
And what lesson can we learn from that too?

Why don't you give us a break down?

Out the 80%,
60% is due to irreconcilable differences;
70% is due to adultery;
50% is due to domestic violence etc etc.

If further analysis can be done to say out of the 80% who initiate divorce, 70% go on to re-marry and also initiate divorce after X years. etc. etc.

What nationality are they? For instance, if most of them are Northern Nigerians who file divorce once they settle in the US because they were married off as teens to men old enough to be their fathers, it would be treated differently to a case where native American women wake up 10 years after they are married because they are 'fed up'.

Oya provide us more details so we can intelligently discuss.

Make I just chilax and learn from the elders

CanadaOrBust:
In U.S. that is.
And what lesson can we learn from that?
And why is it that 50% of the marriages end in divorce? (See below)
And what lesson can we learn from that too?

lets talk about Nigeria first

engrtee:
after divorce, women get richer in usa

and in Nigeria, women get poorer when they file for divorce...
Seems the equation is balanced

bukatyne:


You might be on to something.



Why don't you give us a break down?

Out the 80%,
60% is due to irreconcilable differences;
70% is due to adultery;
50% is due to domestic violence etc etc.

If further analysis can be done to say out of the 80% who initiate divorce, 70% go on to re-marry and also initiate divorce after X years. etc. etc.

What nationality are they? For instance, if most of them are Northern Nigerians who file divorce once they settle in the US because they were married off as teens to men old enough to be their fathers, it would be treated differently to a case where native American women wake up 10 years after they are married because they are 'fed up'.

Oya provide us more details so we can intelligently discuss.

A more interesting aspect is why 70% of black women are single. See below.

(I just opened a new thread based on it)

https://www.nairaland.com/5964241/why-70-black-women-single

engrtee:
after divorce, women get richer in usa

So how does that explain 70% of black women being single?? See above

(I just opened a new thread based on the above)

https://www.nairaland.com/5964241/why-70-black-women-single

PureGoldh:
Make I just chilax and learn from the elders

More like u r stylishly advertising pure RAW honey that cures everything including corona!

1stHooligan:
lets talk about Nigeria first

That’s what we are doing. U learn from other’s mistakes by discussing and analyzing them so u don’t end up the same way

Because men have stopped being responsible since the days of our fathers.Just few of them left

jidamsel43:
Because most women think the matrimonial home is equated to their fathers' homes

This, sir, is a totally meaningless comment

Rozz:
Because men have stopped being responsible since the days of our fathers.Just few of them left

This new thread tends to disagree:

https://www.nairaland.com/5964241/why-70-black-women-single

Rozz:
Because men have stopped being responsible since the days of our fathers.Just few of them left

How?

engrtee:
after divorce, women get richer in usa

The Divorce Gap
There’s a common perception that women siphon off the wealth of their exes and go on to live in comfort. It’s wrong.

A 38-year-old woman living in Everett, Washington recently told me that nine years ago, she had a well-paying job, immaculate credit, substantial savings, and a happy marriage. When her first daughter was born, she and her husband decided that she would quit her job in publishing to stay home with the baby. She loved being a mother and homemaker, and when another daughter came, she gave up the idea of going back to work.

Seven years later, her husband told her to leave their house, and filed for a divorce she couldn’t afford. “He said he was tired of my medical issues, and unwilling to work on things,” she said, citing her severe rheumatoid arthritis and OCD, both of which she manages with medication. “He kicked me out of my own house, with no job and no home, and then my only recourse was to lawyer up. I’m paying them on credit.” (Some of the men and women quoted in this article have been kept anonymous because they were discussing sensitive financial matters, some of them involving ongoing legal disputes.)

She is far from alone. Despite the common perception that women make out better than men in divorce proceedings, women who worked before, during, or after their marriages see a 20 percent decline in income when their marriages end, according to Stephen Jenkins, a professor at the London School of Economics. His research found that men, meanwhile, tend to see their incomes rise more than 30 percent post-divorce. Meanwhile, the poverty rate for separated women is 27 percent, nearly triple the figure for separated men.

Women like the mother in Washington, who leave the workforce for several years, will likely see their earnings stunted when they resume working. The main reason women suffer the brunt of divorce’s financial burdens, according to Jenkins, is that during marriage, they are more likely than men to stop working in order to raise kids. “The key differences are not between men and women, but between fathers and mothers,” he told The Guardian.

On top of that, divorce proceedings alone can pose a serious financial burden. According to Divorce Magazine, a trade publication, the cost of divorce varies wildly, from as little as $8,500 to well over $100,000. An accurate average is hard to nail down, but estimates usually fall within the range of $15,000 to $30,000. And if the split is relatively amicable, costs can sometimes be as low as $250 to $3,000, according to Lee Borden, a divorce lawyer in Alabama.

These burdens tend to fall disproportionately on women, and, in its usual way, the market has recognized that: A handful of firms have started providing loans—some of them for hundreds of thousands of dollars—to women so that they can properly argue their case in court. The loans’ interest rates can be high, but one firm estimates that applicants typically win assets worth three times the amount of their loan.

Weinberger says that because of the inevitability of alimony and child support, she advises ex-partners to make peace with paying for support before proceedings even begin. “The judge is going to order how much you pay and for how long, once you go to court, and that’s it,” she says. (If spouses choose to divorce via a settlement, she notes, they have a little more flexibility.)

And alimony and child support don’t always flow from ex-husband to ex-wife. Many men fear they’ll be ridiculed when others find out they’re receiving money from their exes, Weinberger says. Some would rather forgo their monthly stipends than swallow their pride, even if they are the stay-at-home parent bringing in no income.

Of course, the messiness of life can cause serious stress before there’s time to have a judge step in. When asked what she got out of her divorce, a mother in New Hampshire I spoke to simply says: “divorced.” Having been married to her husband for two years and having been the mother of their child, the woman found herself without any financial safety net when they split abruptly. “He would not contribute to any expenses,” she said. “He gave me 15 days to get off his cellphone plan, and expected that I wouldn't default on our rent, which was $1,600 a month. I sold my cellphone for food and got a prepaid number.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/04/the-divorce-gap/480333/

bukatyne:


How?

The topic says 80 percent of women initiate divorce,its so because of the frustrations men of these days put them through in marriage,most men want to live their single life while married and it's not and never going to work that way hence the topic.

Rozz:
The topic says 80 percent of women initiate divorce,its so because of the frustrations men of these days put them through in marriage,most men want to live their single life while married and it's not and never going to work that way hence the topic.

Hmmmmm

So you are implying that the husbands of yester years are better than the husbands today?

Yet, women today complain that they wouldn't take what their mothers accepted nor behave the way their mothers did. In fact, they don't want the husbands like the husbands of yester years (their fathers).

Toor.

Hathor5:

The Divorce Gap
There’s a common perception that women siphon off the wealth of their exes and go on to live in comfort. It’s wrong.

A 38-year-old woman living in Everett, Washington recently told me that nine years ago, she had a well-paying job, immaculate credit, substantial savings, and a happy marriage. When her first daughter was born, she and her husband decided that she would quit her job in publishing to stay home with the baby. She loved being a mother and homemaker, and when another daughter came, she gave up the idea of going back to work.

Seven years later, her husband told her to leave their house, and filed for a divorce she couldn’t afford. “He said he was tired of my medical issues, and unwilling to work on things,” she said, citing her severe rheumatoid arthritis and OCD, both of which she manages with medication. “He kicked me out of my own house, with no job and no home, and then my only recourse was to lawyer up. I’m paying them on credit.” (Some of the men and women quoted in this article have been kept anonymous because they were discussing sensitive financial matters, some of them involving ongoing legal disputes.)

She is far from alone. Despite the common perception that women make out better than men in divorce proceedings, women who worked before, during, or after their marriages see a 20 percent decline in income when their marriages end, according to Stephen Jenkins, a professor at the London School of Economics. His research found that men, meanwhile, tend to see their incomes rise more than 30 percent post-divorce. Meanwhile, the poverty rate for separated women is 27 percent, nearly triple the figure for separated men.

Women like the mother in Washington, who leave the workforce for several years, will likely see their earnings stunted when they resume working. The main reason women suffer the brunt of divorce’s financial burdens, according to Jenkins, is that during marriage, they are more likely than men to stop working in order to raise kids. “The key differences are not between men and women, but between fathers and mothers,” he told The Guardian.

On top of that, divorce proceedings alone can pose a serious financial burden. According to Divorce Magazine, a trade publication, the cost of divorce varies wildly, from as little as $8,500 to well over $100,000. An accurate average is hard to nail down, but estimates usually fall within the range of $15,000 to $30,000. And if the split is relatively amicable, costs can sometimes be as low as $250 to $3,000, according to Lee Borden, a divorce lawyer in Alabama.

These burdens tend to fall disproportionately on women, and, in its usual way, the market has recognized that: A handful of firms have started providing loans—some of them for hundreds of thousands of dollars—to women so that they can properly argue their case in court. The loans’ interest rates can be high, but one firm estimates that applicants typically win assets worth three times the amount of their loan.

Weinberger says that because of the inevitability of alimony and child support, she advises ex-partners to make peace with paying for support before proceedings even begin. “The judge is going to order how much you pay and for how long, once you go to court, and that’s it,” she says. (If spouses choose to divorce via a settlement, she notes, they have a little more flexibility.)

And alimony and child support don’t always flow from ex-husband to ex-wife. Many men fear they’ll be ridiculed when others find out they’re receiving money from their exes, Weinberger says. Some would rather forgo their monthly stipends than swallow their pride, even if they are the stay-at-home parent bringing in no income.

Of course, the messiness of life can cause serious stress before there’s time to have a judge step in. When asked what she got out of her divorce, a mother in New Hampshire I spoke to simply says: “divorced.” Having been married to her husband for two years and having been the mother of their child, the woman found herself without any financial safety net when they split abruptly. “He would not contribute to any expenses,” she said. “He gave me 15 days to get off his cellphone plan, and expected that I wouldn't default on our rent, which was $1,600 a month. I sold my cellphone for food and got a prepaid number.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/04/the-divorce-gap/480333/

So if really it is this bad for women after a divorce, why then are 80% of divorces filed by wives at the detriment of their standard of living?

bukatyne:


Hmmmmm

So you are implying that the husbands of yester years are better than the husbands today?

Yet, women today complain that they wouldn't take what their mothers accepted nor behave the way their mothers did. In fact, they don't want the husbands like the husbands of yester years (their fathers).

Toor.

you right but women endured them those days because of some good qualities they possess,women today sees nothing to endure in most of their men and hence divorce becomes the only option left.

Rozz:
you right but women endured them those days because of some good qualities they possess,women today sees nothing to endure in most of their men and hence divorce becomes the only option left.

But these women chose these men?

Or are you saying all men are the same (just gotten worse)?

bukatyne:




But these women chose these men?

Or are you saying all men are the same (just gotten worse)?

i always use MOST meaning we still have few good ones left like my brothers lol. Most men are angel in relationships but something else in marriage,these women were most times deceived.

CanadaOrBust:


A more interesting aspect is why 70% of black women are single. See below.

(I just opened a new thread based on it)

https://www.nairaland.com/5964241/why-70-black-women-single

70% of black women in the US are single (never married) and 80% of women initiate divorce in the US are mutually exclusive.

I don't see how one connects to the other.

Unnerve:

So if really it is this bad for women after a divorce, why then are 80% of divorces filed by wives at the detriment of their standard of living?

Are you telling me you can't answer this question for yourself?





From the look of things money is not enough to keep a woman in a bad marriage.

More

In this study, I examined gender differences in the consequences of divorce by tracing annual change in 20 outcome measures covering four domains: economic, housing and domestic, health and well-being, and social. I used data from the German Socio-Economic Panel Study (SOEP) and fixed-effects panel regression models on a sample of N = 18,030 individuals initially observed in a marital union, N = 1,220 of whom divorced across the observation period (1984–2015). Three main findings emerged from the analysis. First, men were more vulnerable to short-term consequences of divorce for subjective measures of well-being, but postdivorce adaptation alleviated gender differences in these outcomes. Second, a medium-term view on multiple outcomes showed more similarity than differences between women and men. The medium-term consequences of divorce were similar in terms of subjective economic well-being; mental health, physical health, and psychological well-being; residential moves, homeownership, and satisfaction with housework; and chances of repartnering, social integration with friends and relatives, and feelings of loneliness. Third, the key domain in which large and persistent gender differences emerged were women’s disproportionate losses in household income and associated increases in their risk of poverty and single parenting. Taken together, these findings suggest that men’s disproportionate strain of divorce is transient, whereas women’s is chronic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/




But trust Nairalanders who believe that most women married a rich man even though not all and not even most men are rich.

janvier27:
Women need the closure more than men to move on. Easier for a man to dump a toxic marriage & move on even without a divorce.

Interesting.

bukatyne:


Hmmmmm

So you are implying that the husbands of yester years are better than the husbands today?

Yet, women today complain that they wouldn't take what their mothers accepted nor behave the way their mothers did. In fact, they don't want the husbands like the husbands of yester years (their fathers).

Toor.

Oohhhh Bukky.
Why u come rope the girl now with her answer?
This is a KO
Seems they are confused.
The olden days men are bad and that is why they can't marry such archaic, backward man yet modern men are irresponsible unlike olden days men, what a confused set of people.

bukatyne:


Meaning?

Many women nowadays are of the opinion that they have an equal right with their husbands at home.

Many of them except the same freedom they had in father's house to be replicated in matrimonial homes