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Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by BackllGodNaija: 7:47pm On Jul 03, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


I appreciate your response and understanding but there is one big Word of the Lord that I hold before my eyes which is "My people perish, for lack of understanding".

I have seen what lack of understanding has done to people, and of course, I was one of them. And I Greatly Fear it.

But when I considered the ways of the Righteous and the Wise, I Found that indeed, they had Many Many Understandings.

And meanwhile, Nobody can buy Understanding in market, nor can they fashion a Good One.

And this is where I Greatly Thank God for giving us King David, who was able to Capture all that Abraham, Jacob and Moses knew and mixed with his own personal knowledge, he gave unto us the Gifts of the Proverbs and Psalms.

Which Clearly told me that Understanding, is Given By the Lord Himself. And He Shows us the various ways we can obtain the Understanding that Comes from the Lord.

So, as Paul and the Disciples have Truly said, I can walk Confidently and Surely Always, as the things which we do everyday, without Fear or Failure.

This is what I humbly share and advocate for.





Okay kindly explain to me what you think of Jesus who is Master and Lord openly exhibiting the limitations of His knowledge before His disciples when He asked God in the glaring eyes of the public why He had forsaken Him....Do you think it was unwise of Him to do so? When I said this orientation has been of tremendous help to me and many others, it also included His disciples who made it possible for us to have His gospel today, because such example of Jesus was what gave them the confidence and motivation to achieve that in spite of all the trials, persecutions they faced even to the point of death. And that's the example I'm trying to emulate to achieve likewise but you seem to think otherwise.
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 9:39pm On Jul 03, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Okay kindly explain to me what you think of Jesus who is Master and Lord openly exhibiting the limitations of His knowledge before His disciples when He asked God in the glaring eyes of the public why He had forsaken Him....Do you think it was unwise of Him to do so? When I said this orientation has been of tremendous help to me and many others, it also included His disciples who made it possible for us to have His gospel today, because such example of Jesus was what gave them the confidence and motivation to achieve that in spite of all the trials, persecutions they faced even to the point of death. And that's the example I'm trying to emulate to achieve likewise but you seem to think otherwise.

I honestly do think otherwise.

For without knowledge and understanding, we continue to walk in fear and in uncertainty and never in Confidence and Boldness.

For look at all who follow the Lord, Not One was ever afraid nor could there confidence be shaken at anytime by anyone high or low, Pharisee or scribe.

Why? Because they were Full of Knowledge and Understanding coupled with the Power of the Holy Spirit.

Holy Spirit fell on those who accepted the Words of Christ, But, they still needed to grow in Knowledge and Understanding, hence the Reason why We Have what is Called the New Testament.

Thus, 2 Timothy 1:7

" For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind".

David in Proverbs 2 tells us

My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous:
he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

Proverbs 3:13-18
"Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her
: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

These are my grounds of my Stand for I do Verily Stand as A Witness to the live Truths of these Clear Holy and Wonderful Words.
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by BackllGodNaija: 2:59am On Jul 04, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


I honestly do think otherwise.

For without knowledge and understanding, we continue to walk in fear and in uncertainty and never in Confidence and Boldness.

For look at all who follow the Lord, Not One was ever afraid nor could there confidence be shaken at anytime by anyone high or low, Pharisee or scribe.

Why? Because they were Full of Knowledge and Understanding coupled with the Power of the Holy Spirit.

Holy Spirit fell on those who accepted the Words of Christ, But, they still needed to grow in Knowledge and Understanding, hence the Reason why We Have what is Called the New Testament.

Thus, 2 Timothy 1:7

" For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind".

David in Proverbs 2 tells us

My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous:
he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

Proverbs 3:13-18
"Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her
: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

These are my grounds of my Stand for I do Verily Stand as A Witness to the live Truths of these Clear Holy and Wonderful Words.

You have every right to do so, however I believe if you truly have the interest of God at heart you ought to have a rethink, because we can't possibly know better than the Master. If the open portrayal of uncertainty and one's limited knowledge wasn't comforting at all to anyone or doesn't inspires any form of confidence as you think, I believe Jesus would be the last to do so. This was someone whose disciples had invested all their lives, hopes and everything they got in believing He knew everything and was a sure bet. But here He was helplessly hanging on the cross right before their very eyes...as if that was not already bad enough, now asking God why He had forsaken Him?

You approved of their consequent fearlessness and confidence...it would be contradictory to at the same time disapprove of such experiences and examples of the Master that inspired such in them. They definitely went through similar trying and uncertain moments in their lives but knowing that their Master had gone through similar experiences would have been most comforting to them, because if that could happen to their highly esteemed Master, how much more they His servants? That I believe was what strengthened their resolve in spite of such uncertainties and difficulties they faced, because they had learnt from their Master, that "God is still God regardless and He's never made a mistake", which happens to be the objective of this message.
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 3:20am On Jul 04, 2020
And my position is further founded on how our Lord God Taught us in Always Saying "which one of you"".

So I always say which one of me would willingly lay his life on the table of medical student for even a simple surgery? No not one. We would go to a certified surgeon.

Or which one of you having matter in court shall say to a law student, "come and fight for me, for lo, I am brought before the judge". No, not one.

So it is for everything in the kingdom of God!

Knowings and Understandings Always brings Boldness and Confidence.

Which is Paul said

Ephesians 3
For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;


6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:


10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him

Which when Complete causes one to Confidently declare,

"So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me." Hebrews 13:6
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 3:42am On Jul 04, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
You have every right to do so, however I believe if you truly have the interest of God at heart you ought to have a rethink, because we can't possibly know better than the Master. If the open portrayal of uncertainty and one's limited knowledge wasn't comforting at all to anyone or doesn't inspires any form of confidence as you think, I believe Jesus would be the last to do so. This was someone whose disciples had invested all their lives, hopes and everything they got in believing He knew everything and was a sure bet. But here He was helplessly hanging on the cross right before their very eyes...as if that was not already bad enough, now asking God why He had forsaken Him?

You approved of their consequent fearlessness and confidence...it would be contradictory to at the same time disapprove of such experiences and examples of the Master that inspired such in them. They definitely went through similar trying and uncertain moments in their lives but knowing that their Master had gone through similar experiences would have been most comforting to them, because if that could happen to their highly esteemed Master, how much more they His servants? That I believe was what strengthened their resolve in spite of such uncertainties and difficulties they faced, because they had learnt from their Master, that "God is still God regardless and He's never made a mistake", which happens to be the objective of this message.


Oh, you really think valid, your probe,

"Lord openly exhibiting the limitations of His knowledge before His disciples when He asked God in the glaring eyes of the public why He had forsaken Him....Do you think it was unwise of Him to do so? "

Ok! I answer

How is it possible that this statement is a declaration of "limited knowledge" rather than an outspoken private conversation between Father and Son?

Did Christ not express tell us that He Came to Do the Will of His Father?

Therefore, what gain or benefit did Christ fail to give us in saying this or is there anything we ought to receive that the Lord witheld? No, not one, for the Lord, gave us Everything we need.

He clearly said "I would Tell You so" or would he lie to his Disciples, who themselves have taught us all He taught them?

And that statement is not one of the teachings taught, for if it indeed, had any gain or importance, I Trust That the Lord, when He Resurrected, would have told us so or his Disciples would have taught us so or it would have of itself, been restated and restated for us to take due attention of it.

But the Lord did not, neither did His Disciples nor does the Bible, anywhere, counsel us to pay particular attention to that detail.

Everything God wanted us to know, He Always Clearly Told us Again and again and again.
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by GRIMMJOE(m): 3:17pm On Jul 07, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


I answered! And God is Real!
Saying something is real doesn't make it any real.
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by LordReed(m): 4:37pm On Jul 07, 2020
Since this question was asked on the front page it has resonated frequently in my mind. The question is how do you know god is not lying? If he told you he is good, how do you know he is not lying? If he told you he can't make a mistake, how do you know he is not lying?
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by jesusjnreloaded(m): 12:14pm On Aug 11, 2020
God's never made a single mistake. Never!
Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 2:13pm On Aug 11, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Saying something is real doesn't make it any real.

The Ocean and the Sea is in Lagos but you are very capable of saying that it is Not Real as you wish to say.

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Re: Yes It's Hard To Explain...But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake by Dtruthspeaker: 3:30pm On Aug 11, 2020
LordReed:
Since this question was asked on the front page it has resonated frequently in my mind. The question is how do you know god is not lying?

Many Ways and One of Them We All Here are Witnesses To is
1) setting aside the history and journeys of Isreal, We Saw That He Had Already Said that He would scatter them, For a Time if they fail to serve and obey Him.

Our generations did not witness the scattering BUT WE ARE WITNESSES TO THE RETURN AGAIN OF ISREAL TO IT'S LANDS IN 1967 EXACTLY AS GOD SAID HE SHALL DO..

AND NOT ONLY SHALL THEY RETURN THERE, BUT THAT THEY SHALL NEVER BE MOVED OUT!

Jeremiah 30:10
10 "Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

And since there return in 1967, they have never been removed, Exactly as it is Written, WHICH WE ALL HERE ARE THE VERY WITNESSES OF IT!

The Lord God Can not Lie, For He is The Mightiest and the Mightiest fear not harm that He Needs to Lie!

When And If He Does Whatever He Pleases and Likes, Who shall Beat Him or Kill Him? Is there Any One? No, Not a One.

It is weak people like you, who fear harm that Always have a need to Lie, not the Mightiest!

LordReed:

If he told you he is good, how do you know he is not lying?

I have already established the Lying part therefore, I will show you only one Great example of His Goodness as different from you and I, which you and others like you presently enjoy.

Ecclesiastes 8:11
" Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

Which one of you turneth aside when thy servant insults and mocks you? Or which one you shall drink beer with the man who defiled and desecrated thy wife? In any of these situations which one you shall tarry to act? No! Not One!

LordReed:

If he told you he can't make a mistake, how do you know he is not lying?

The Chair can not tell the carpenter that He made a Mistake, Neither can Camry know whether Mr Toyoda made a mistake nor can iPhone, Steve Jobs.

So also it is not possible for you to know whether your Maker and Creator made a mistake For No creation can Know beyond what its Creator has made it to know, and all that you know, is what your Creator has allowed you to know.

No Creation can know upto it's Creator!

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