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ThinkFreely:
Thats where permutations and probability comes in. And the ability to position yourself rightly.
Having faith doesn’t mean it will manifest. It’s just faith, you can’t only try to make it work and hope that the odds aren’t against you.
It’s as simple as that

Maximus69:
Well that's not true FAITH Sir!

True faith is what will benefit everyone around you, only the few can see it, even when others refused to agree with you you'll continue working on it because it's inevitably going to be a reality!

So faith is not just what we dream about our own child who may even die before our own eyes, rather it's something that binds people from all works of life together as one family. And as they continue working towards it, observant persons will notice the result and join them while faithless people will continue to mock, jeopardize or even outrightly attack them for doing something they don't believe in.
But at last it will eventually become a reality.

Take for instance the aeroplane, those who had the dream never witnessed the time the first aeroplane carried people through the air, but one generation after another they kept working towards it, critics came up to kick against it, but in the end people now travel through the air!

That's what true FAITH means Sir! Hebrew 11:1

ThinkFreely:
Bro, I don’t like back and forth arguments over what is glaring. E be like say una like plenty arguments for this nairaland
Anybody can have faith. Religion is “faith” in a god.

ACCORDING TO OXFORD faith is:
ability or knowledge; trust that somebody/something will do what has been promised
If the company can retain its customers' faith, it could become the market leader.
faith in somebody/something I have faith in you—I know you'll do well.
We've lost faith in the government's promises.
Her friend's kindness has restored her faith in human nature.
I wouldn't put too much faith in what she says.
He has blind faith (= unreasonable trust) in doctors' ability to find a cure.

Maximus69:
Don't be surprised that your definition of FAITH differ from mine.

But instead of blindly arguing on a definition that's not working, try to calm down in order to see what is wrong.

I said from the beginning that false religion is what you guys are considering so you can't see beyond your nose.

Let me tell you what real faith is doing today.
There is a God who is the one and only TRUE God, he is the one teaching us how get the benefits of true FAITH.
It's not about deceiving people with miracles and things God never promised. What God promised us in this time of the end is peace and unity amongst his true worshipers, they will first of all eradicate hatred amongst themselves and form a global family of peace loving worshipers.
LOVE, JOY and PEACE will reign in their midst and throughout the world everyone will testify to it that there is true love and peace permeating their gathering.
All the religions making noise hear and there telling people they want to perform miracles are deceivers, the events we are experiencing on the planet today is what God said will mark the end of this system.
Soon he will come and exterminate all those who aren't part of his Organization, but before then they must see the works of FAITH.
They will all see that despite the discrimination throughout the earth, despite the desperation, despite the racism and political unrest throughout the globe.
There is a group that does not partake in all the troubles, they're united as a family and nothing can separate them from the love they have for their fellow believers, they don't participate in military activities neither in politics.
Go to anywhere on this planet, not even science can achieve such unity and peace Sir, they said "We are Jehovah's Witnesses and our God Jehovah who is in our midst is our salvation"

That is the work FAITH is presently doing and there is no technological advancement that can produce such PEACE amongst people from different races under this planet! Micah 4:1-3

BackllGodNaija:
Yet it may be your soul saver.

BackllGodNaija:
I can't believe that someone could possibly argue the undeniable fact that Jesus the King of Kings distrusted Judas Iscariot one of His servants... that's blind argument sir. Haba, it would been more honorable for you if you just quit after that absolutely debunked your idea that a servant must be trusted. Instead of cherry picking one or two more incidents in the Bible which you think supports your argument, why not just state plainly if you believe no king in the history of the world ever had a servant that he distrusted? That's when you'd still have any case otherwise it's case closed!

ThinkFreely:
I rather stick to oxford dictionary definition of faith.
That settles it

Maximus69:
Good!
And i'll stick to the definition found in God's word!

ThinkFreely:
No evidence god exist, there’s evidence oxford dictionary exist.

LordReed:
Very simple question that you cannot honestly answer, how did Jesus distrust Judas?

Bwahahahaha! 3 examples from your book of stories is cherry picking? You know you are done stop prolonging the agony. LMFAO!

BackllGodNaija:
What question? Simple question I answered even before you asked or how did that come into your knowledge? Na wa oh! It was without a doubt an instance of a King who had a servant He didn't trust. I am ashamed for you that you are still bringing that up. Haba... Is it everything that one would want to argue...even that which is unarguable.

And you picked three whole entire examples from the Bible... So clap for yourself or maybe I should give you an award for that...even though none of them disprove of the fact that Kings use many servants who they don't trust. Why not give instances of all their gardeners, herdmen, cleaners who do serve the kings but cannot have access to his inner chambers because he cannot trust them with that. Meanwhile you can keep deceiving yourself that you have any case here.

krushdripper:
You, my friend are just deviating from the inquiry, what happens to servants kings don't trust? They get plotted down, attacked, segregated, put - away right? Right, so put the phone away & pray your posts over to nairaland period!

BackllGodNaija:
What senseless inquiry are you talking about? Okay you want to join your padi lordreed in his blind argument? Okay God don catch you. Oya tell me, what did Jesus the King of kings do to Judas His servant who he distrusted? Also tell me what Pharoah did to their servants the children of Israel whom they distrusted? Put them away? Despite distrusting them to the extent of killing "every male child" they had, did they let them go? Instead they did everything they possibly could to keep them and made them work harder. You think is by cherry picking instances from the Bible...Absolutely clueless, yet they claim knowledge.

LordReed:
Stop talking shit and tell us how Jesus distrusted Judas. Judas that he knew was going to betray him, he still made him the holder of the purse. Tell us HOW, don't just keep asserting it.

BackllGodNaija:
I'm sure you've trusted a devil and a thief before, even though you chose him to do a job for you and give him your purse to hold.

John 6:70 (KJV)
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

John 12:6 (KJV)
This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

So as you can clearly see, the truth is shit to you.

LordReed:
I see you neither know the meaning of how or distrust.

BackllGodNaija:
You chose to see only the figments of your imagination

LordReed:
Projection at its finest.

BackllGodNaija:
Interpretation at its worst

BackllGodNaija:
Some May Trust In Science, Some May Trust In Technology, But We Will Trust In God

This topic might sound familiar to some old timers who are acquainted with one of the most popular songs of world renowned gospel artist Bob Fitts which goes like this:

Some may trust in horses,
some may trust in chariots,
but we will trust in the name of our God...



God bless Nigeria.

enthronedbyGod1:
Psalm 20:7.
Nice

BackllGodNaija:
What senseless inquiry are you talking about? Okay you want to join your padi lordreed in his blind argument? Okay God don catch you. Oya tell me, what did Jesus the King of kings do to Judas His servant who he distrusted? Also tell me what Pharoah did to their servants the children of Israel whom they distrusted? Put them away? Despite distrusting them to the extent of killing "every male child" they had, did they let them go? Instead they did everything they possibly could to keep them and made them work harder. You think is by cherry picking instances from the Bible...Absolutely clueless, yet they claim knowledge.

krushdripper:
People who reason like you are a major cause why this country, Nigeria can hardly move foward, I've put in lot of study and work to create your mobile phone for example but you'd rather send your acknowlegment and appreciation to some God that you've never seen as my phone, my hardwork and study and even me myself are just servants to serve thier purpose right? You are one stunted hell of an ingrate.

BackllGodNaija:
At least your idea that kings do away with servants who they do not trust has been debunked so you can now clutch unto another straw. Your opinion is a consequence of the lack of knowledge that people who reason like me, who put their trust in God and instead science have been pillars of the most exalted nations on Earth. People who reason like me were the masterminds of the world's earliest civilizations and powers like Mesopotamia, Egypt...and then you have the modern example of US the world most exalted nation, on whose currencies are inscribed the words "In God We Trust" instead of science...that should teach you something about people who reason like me if you really want to learn. They all use science to serve its purpose, but they put their trust in God. That's the difference and what distinguished them from the rest. So now you know we know what we're doing even though you do not know.

LordReed:
LoL. In god we trust was added in the 1950s, it was not part of the foundation of the US. Learn some real history not fairytales. LMAO

BackllGodNaija:
At least your idea that kings do away with servants who they do not trust has been debunked so you can now clutch unto another straw. Your opinion is a consequence of the lack of knowledge that people who reason like me, who put their trust in God and instead science have been pillars of the most exalted nations on Earth. People who reason like me were the masterminds of the world's earliest civilizations and powers like Mesopotamia, Egypt...and then you have the modern example of US the world most exalted nation, on whose currencies are inscribed the words "In God We Trust" instead of science...that should teach you something about people who reason like me if you really want to learn. They all use science to serve its purpose, but they put their trust in God. That's the difference and what distinguished them from the rest. So now you know we know what we're doing even though you do not know.

krushdripper:
You debunked nothing okay, Jesus christ and everything puported about 'it' in the bible where all made up to subdue and control wimps like you. Did the Pharoah not kill every male child like you said? or did Saul not hunt David down trying to kill him? Point is, ill-luck befalls any servant a king does not trust. You trust your phone to ring when there is a call or deliver you some info when you enter it's brower and you take as much care of it as you can, you wouldn't do that if you don't trust it, you would deal it some ill-luck instead. It's easy for you to think you know the meaning of the word 'Trust' but you don't. I don't know what you're doing that you think i know and i don't want to know though from your words, you concluded by trying to tell me that you're one of those religionistas who use religion to exploit people and make yourself appear in order while you're not.

krushdripper:
You debunked nothing okay, Jesus christ and everything puported about 'it' in the bible where all made up to subdue and control wimps like you. Did the Pharoah not kill every male child like you said? or did Saul not hunt David down trying to kill him? Point is, ill-luck befalls any servant a king does not trust. You trust your phone to ring when there is a call or deliver you some info when you enter it's brower and you take as much care of it as you can, you wouldn't do that if you don't trust it, you would deal it some ill-luck instead. It's easy for you to think you know the meaning of the word 'Trust' but you don't. I don't know what you're doing that you think i know and i don't want to know though from your words, you concluded by trying to tell me that you're one of those religionistas who use religion to exploit people and make yourself appear in order while you're not.

BackllGodNaija:
Lolz...They're all made up to control wimps like us, and yet you're drawing from it to make a point...how ironic! You don't even have any idea of what the argument is, and yet you're here claiming to know. You'd have a case if I said, If I said no king has any servant he does not trust...what I said was that many Kings have servants they do not trust! As long as they do they jobs, the kings don't have to trust them and I gave the instance of the Israelites whom the king of Egypt distrusted yet kept feeding and taking good care of them to illustrate my point. Note "trust" in this case doesn't mean that regarding servants serving their purpose, but that which involves putting your whole hopes and faith in something as your lord, master and savior as y'all do to science and we do to God. That's the trust implied here. So please spare me your own definition of trust as if it's exclusive to you. Perhaps the photo below could better illustrate what I meant by trust in case you still don't get it...speaking of controlling wimps like me..

Martinez39s:
Liar. You wouldn't depend on science if you didn't trust it.