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Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 4:24pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:Pushing the kingdom of God or pushing his own kingdom forward? By building 10K churches where God never asked anyone to build him anything? So when God said He does not inhabit structures built by man, He lied? Since you never answered when asked of the meaning of God's righteousness which you would have found had you obeyed and sought after the Kingdom of God, not your kingdom, and God's righteousness, not yours, I will still go ahead and ask anyways because it is of great importance to God. What about works of righteousness, the works that God says is the only way to become a Sheep, worthy of entering His kingdom? WINNERSMOG:Learn faith? What is the meaning of faith? Why don't you enlighten me here? |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Geeman23(m): 6:07pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:alot of the people you teach faith are low lifers here in my street poor believing in your useless faith which has turn them into miserable beigns. A lot of them in ogun. In Ibadan. I know you are programmed to always repeat the same thing. Money success. Your useless seduction against ignorant ones. Your own povertypmovert is what make you earn a living by selling your soul to defend fraud. Your mates are soaring with intelligence in science, business, art, agriculture, you are here hoping on faith. Dumb one. Sell that Elon musk, Zuckerberg, bill gates, Jeff vezos, seen osewa, Wizkid, Linda ikeji. The best you can get from oyedepo is the porridge they pay you to yarn dust online, he has already positioned his sons to atkr over the empire of fraud. You are sacrificung what you can achieve with intelligence for the useless money hey you. You are a slave to the empire of oyedpo paying you. Come out and be liberated. I 1 Like |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 6:14pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: My friend, since I came across you on this platform one thing I have been trying to do is enlighten you about faith. But up till now, you seem not to be catching up. Faith is simply believing the word of God, and applying it, then God performs what you have believed. That’s the simply definition I can give you. For example, you feel sick, but the word of God says by the stripes of Jesus we were healed(1 Pet 2:24), so you believe Jesus healed you (past tense) by his stripes and confess it, the God heals you. That’s a good example of how faith works. To your question about whether he is building his own kingdom or God’s kingdom. He is building God’s kingdom and making it very beautiful in the process. These churches he is establishing is to house the people of God. We won’t want the flock of Christ staying under sheds my friend- they deserve the very best. Now, one question you may want to ask is how is he getting all these work done. It’s very simple- BY FAITH. He just believes the word of God for prosperity, for revival, for enlargement, for success, for healing, for vision, for wisdom, for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, etc. And by this he is getting things done with ease. Remember with faith ALL things are possible. Anyone can get things done like this with faith- even you. He won’t be the first to accomplish so much by faith, and he won’t be the last my friend. What you should do is find your purpose in life, build your faith in God’s word, and you’d accomplish things with ease. Get understanding my friend. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 6:24pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Geeman23: All your words are filled with pains and pangs. I told you, your pains are just starting. My friend, you can only teach people faith, you cannot force faith on anyone. With faith I have accomplished so much in life- and I shall keep doing more, that you cannot accomplish without faith in 100 life times. I only wish you knew how faith works, so that you can be liberated from the oppressions and bitterness in your life. And this faith is not rocket science o. Something I can easily teach you, but the devils in you that have vowed to destroy you young will not let you be humble enough to learn. Honestly I may seem like your enemy on this platform because you have decided to be very daft, but in reality I am your friend, and you are in my prayers for the devil to leave you alone so you can embrace faith and enjoy a glorious life. For without faith you CANNOT receive anything from God my friend. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 6:28pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:I hope one day the scale will be off your eyes like a lot people are coming out to realize that they've been in darkness and had wasted years in the scamming business of oyedepo the chief scammer....... |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 6:33pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
desiredhome: But you said you were not pained? Now your pains and pangs are coming to light and I see you are no more laughing like when you first started commenting. Oyedepo is a faith man that is trying to teach you how to use your own faith. The same things he has accomplished, you can accomplish too, and even more. But, my friend you need faith. Humble yourself learn how faith works and you won’t need all these bitterness and hatred- cos they will keep sinking you. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:So, why do I, or anyone for that matter, need your MOG if all that is needed is one's own faith? WINNERSMOG:How can he be building God's Kingdom? Did God say He needs His Kingdom built? According to Jesus Christ, the Kingdom already exists.... and In his father's House there are many mansions already and He goes there to prepare(not build) for his followers a place. So again, what is your MOG building when God's Kingdom already exists? Obviously, it cannot be God's kingdom but his, Or else God is made a liar by him(your MOG). I don't need to ask about how your MOG gets the work done since that information you already provided... with the money and sweat of the flock that belongs to the Shephard, Jesus Christ. Yes, your MOG seems to believe that when God said He, God, will bless him, God meant your MOG should take all he can from the sheep He, God, asked Him to feed and care for. WINNERSMOG:What faith? The faith to take from the weak to feed one's own desires and dreams? You are right, anyone can do it. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:12pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: You need MOGs to teach you how faith works. With all the MOGs in town, people like you have still decided to shut down your minds to knowledge. That why we need more MOGs to keep teaching until your mind opens up my friend. Faith is all you need to receive from God my friend. We will keep accomplishing unimaginable feats by our faith. Winning souls into the kingdom of God like never witnessed before in the history of the world. In the process God is blessing us in ways that will totally shut down your imagination. Learn how faith works and I guarantee you, all these confusion and bitterness will end, otherwise your frustrations continue. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 7:17pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:So, the Spirit of God Himself cannot teach me the things of God, only MOGs can? Even though I have faith and the Spirit of God is there, my mind remains closed? And where did Jesus Christ say this? WINNERSMOG:Receive from God or take from the flock that God has supposedly placed in your care? According to you, your MOG receives from those that He is supposed to teach how to use their faith. Last I checked, God is not His flock. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:25pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Lol. Very funny man. Nobody is forcing you to go to church. Stay at home. But you can’t force those of us that go to church to stay at home. In the same way, don’t give tithes and offerings, nobody is forcing you to. But you can’t force those of us giving it to stop. It is the word of God, it works for us we keep doing it. It doesn’t work for you. Faith doesn’t work for you cos you don’t understand it, don’t do it my friend. Nobody go tell you before you come for help my friend. Get understanding |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 7:36pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:ok I am laughing and to tell you that I am not pained, you've mentioned pain repeatedly is like that is what they brainwashed you with or you just learnt the word pain Like you just talk faith without knowing the meaning . ..... what you are calling faith here is covetousness powered by your greed/poverty, Oyedepo is only teaching you how you are to contribute your hard earned money to him so while you are getting poorer(Nigeria been the poverty capital of the world....) he is getting richer Don't be deceived you can never be like him, he is a mentalist, you will only get frustrated and start engaging in some criminal activities/frauds just to deceive yourself(packaging)...... Stop being greedy, only the greedy falls victim to scammers |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:40pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
desiredhome: And how is all these your pains and pangs. Are we complaining to you. Leave us with faith, you sef dey with whatever you believe in. God no vex. Don’t be a dunce my friend! |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 7:41pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:Why should anyone go to church? What is the place of your churches when it really has nothing to do with the kingdom of God, nor are they part of the plan that Jesus Christ set for His own? WINNERSMOG:Tithes and offerings? Did Jesus Christ tell you that the New Covenant that is He includes that? Did your MOG not even know that Jesus Christ is a New Covenant separate from the Old Covenant? What does he teach of faith if he is not even aware of this truth of Jesus Christ?
WINNERSMOG:What word of God? Much of what you have stated is not even according to the Word of God, so how can it be the word of God? WINNERSMOG:I understand that Faith is and what it is not. I know that God's blessing us is not about our taking from God's flock, but depending on God to make available to us that which He promised, His way. What I don't understand is why you believe that faith and blessings of God that assumes it ok to take from the flock of is of God. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:47pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: We showed you in the scriptures yesterday, don’t be daft. If you minister spiritual things to people they must minister material things to you. That is God’s principle for blessing His ministers. Get understanding my friend. As long as I teach people faith and it works for them, they will keep blessing me in ways that will shutdown your imagination. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 7:50pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: It's never gonna be my pain. .....it's only your pain because in your ignorant you've always turned your frustrations to attack the government/Buhari, like your oyedepo did during the last election and even till date If you were getting all that you claim, your members will not be complaining about government/economy....... |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:55pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: So many questions in the mind of a confused mind. Come and learn of Christ in church and get rest for your soul my friend. Faith is all you need, and life will make sense to you a whole lot, your confusions will dissipate my friend. Just swallow your pride and come to church |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:59pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
desiredhome: Someone has been following Oyedepo very keenly. That you don’t understand a man and how he gets things done does not mean you should hate him. All you need is come learn how faith works and you’d be on your way to your own greatness. As long as your pains and pangs remain, you’ll only keep sinking as we keep rising by our faith. Don’t be daft! |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 8:09pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:Note that all these questions have been directed at your person. You were not able to show that your church was in fact in Jesus Christ's plan so why are you asking me to go against Jesus Christ's plan to come to learn of Jesus Christ? Are you seriously asking me to disobey Christ in order to learn from your church which is not in Jesus Christ's plan? My confusion stems from your claim that you and your MOG practice that which is against God in the name of God. How do you make this work in your mind? |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 8:11pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:No doubt they started well but have allowed the spirit of Mammon (material things) to control them.....he is only leading many like you who are greedy to destruction........... otherwise with the number of Churches and Nigeria being the most praying nation would've been the best place on earth but the opposit is the case..... does that not make you think? |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 8:12pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:The scriptures did not support your claim. Even Paul never said you should expect your salary from the flock that Jesus Christ sent you to preach His teachings to. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 8:34pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
desiredhome: Don’t be daft! Nigeria is better off with the church and not worse off. Don’t blame Oyedepo for the mess in Nigeria. If anything, he has contributed immensely to the economy of Nigeria. Don’t be a dunce! 2 top class universities. Hundreds of top standard primary and secondary schools. Please don’t be daft! |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 8:38pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: You remind me of Paul before his conversion. You are so zealous for nothing. If only you could learn how faith works, you will put your zealousness to good use. If not, your pains and pangs will never end. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 8:41pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: Again, learning from you in disobedience to Jesus Christ's own commandment? I have no pains or pangs... my questions are directed at you and your belief. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 8:47pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: When you are ready to learn faith (i.e learn from me), I will answer your questions my friend. I’m only interested in teaching you how faith works |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 8:52pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:That will never happen, so don't hold your breath. God, Himself, forbids me to learn from you and your master "The greatest among you shall be your servant", not teachers! Because those who belong to Jesus Christ have only one teacher and His is Jesus Christ. Every other teacher is a fraud. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 10:02pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: Lol Don't be daft! To know that the Church of God is not the building you spend billions to build but the people(members).… God does not duel in building built by man but in the heart of people....of what use is your 10k churches when over 70% of the members are living below $2 a day? how has your church affected the society if not scamming them?........ Oyedepo is to be blame because of his false teaching that has turned people like you from the truth. If for anything, he has contributed immensely to the economy of Nigeria Lol......by collecting from the poor to build schools for the rich? How many of the members can afford those schools? The same school that the members contributed to build? When you collect from the poor you create more problem........it's the same politicians that are stealing our country dry, are the people that can afford the fees for his schools for their children.... is that not wickedness?........ Don't be daft not to use your brain.... |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 10:29pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
desiredhome: Don’t be a dunce my friend. You don’t expect saints of God to worship in sheds. We live in heaven on earth that’s why our edifices are very beautiful. You talk like this because you don’t understand how faith works. Faith gives you all the good things you want in the word of God, all you just need do is believe and act on the word. But your pains and pangs will never allow you to see this. You will keep hearing good news about us, and it will keep sinking you as long as you live in hatred and bitterness for men of God |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 11:01pm On Jul 09, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: This is what the devil(the Mammon you worship ignorantly) is using to deceive you......it's all about materialism not spirituality..... don't be lost It's called illusion.... that is what you are living/believing in ...... You will keep hearing good news about us, and it will keep sinking you as long as you live in hatred and bitterness for men of God Great..... that will be when Nigeria is the best country in the world.... because the family is the unit of the society......but for now, you can continue in your deception/illusion...... |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 9:59am On Jul 10, 2020 |
desiredhome: You are just saying rubbish my friend. Faith in God will make you smart, embrace it and don’t be unfortunate my friend. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by desiredhome: 10:41am On Jul 10, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:Faith is in God but unfortunately you have put your own faith in another man which is why you are getting poorer...... I can see how unfortunate you are......... |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 10:49am On Jul 10, 2020 |
desiredhome: Your pains and pangs will keep increasing as we get more prosperous my friend. I thought I told you this before. However, you can embrace faith in God not man, and escape all the sorrows that have vowed to keep you sinking indefinitely. |
Re: The Church Is God’s Reference Clinic - Bishop David Oyedepo by FatherOfJesus: 10:54am On Jul 10, 2020 |
I’m not aware of this. Someone must have told Oyedepo this without informing me. 1 Like 1 Share |
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