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pasol4real:
What’s this one saying ?
Igbos already own Lagos. What useless 10% are u referring to

pasol4real:
What’s this one saying ?
Igbos already own Lagos. What useless 10% are u referring to

junketer:
before his support for buhari there was no issue with tinubu and igbos. We held tinubu in high esteem until he decided to align with someone like buhari. I tell you now, if tinubu hadn't aligned with buhari and he contested for president, he would've won south east handsdown. Tinubu has lost it.

WikiGuru:
1. Those Vans are registered to a company

2. The company is most likely (80% certain) registered with the necessary agencies; CBN, Corporate Affairs Commission, Credit Bureau, etc.

3. The Vans were driven by humans.

3. Those humans know where they took the money from.

4. People loaded the money with a MANIFEST, which most likely (90% certain) contains the actual amount, origin and final destination.

Finally,
5. Ever heard the word Subpoena?

The prosecuting council just has to subpoena the drivers of the Vans, who will under oath, give the name of the company contracted. The company gives the name of the bank, the bank produces the manifest, which will reveal the content and exact figure in those Vans.

Please note that, it is not a crime to move any amount of money around, so long as you are within the country. Again, you can have as much cash as possible in your home, no offence at all!

But,

Making or accepting cash payment exceeding 5million is a criminal offence if it is not done through a financial institution. See section 1 of the Money Laundering Act and the case of *ATOYEBI v. FRN (2017) LPELR-43831(SC)*

So, from the manifest, the actual amount in both Vans will definitely be revealed and if it is believed to be cash payments for anything at all, and it is above 5million, that is when the problem may arise.

Please don't attack me, I'm just a Wikipedia Editor who has vast knowledge in legal matters, emanating from my exposure to Articles on Wikipedia.

Thanks,
© WikiGuru.

baliyubla:
The choice before Thiefnibu is simple, give up your illusionary 2023 ambition or go to jail.

It’s no coincidence that the same day Magu was removed, there were protest calling for Thiefnibus head.

The Chigago Drug barons Presidential ambition is DOA. Fear North.

Correcto:
Problem of South. The North is trying to destroy Tinubu, you are blaming the Ibos. How do you think? or you just have hatred for them?

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

wirinet:
They have barn calling SE because most of the people that did not let us hear word again because of "Tinubu's Billion vans" are usually from the SE, as they are sworn enemies of Tinubu.
Meanwhile, they have never complained or critiqued their own people who are also fames for spraying cash and giving out loads of money during social and political events.

Tinubu obviously withdrew his own cash from his own bank account (s) to gift his hundreds of supporters who came to his house on the eve of an election. Now, if you can make a crime out of gifts - including church donations, social donations and giving to beggars on the streets, be my guest.

Here is video of rich men from the south east giving out millions of naira (and simetimes dollars) at a single event, no one is calling for EFCC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUPJh-YxI5c

wirinet:
Do you have evidence that Tinubu accepted more than N5 million from any non financial institution?
Do you also have evidence that Tinubu gave anyone more than N5 million without passing through a financial institution?

And you claim to have vast knowledge in legal matters.

ChoCho54:
Skull minners would have to finish decapitating all Yoruba mooslims before what you wish me can happen.

Elepokan omo Iyadagbe!

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

Perkins2018:
Igbo man with space inferiority complex. Use this your analytical skills to analyze why your region is a desert where your people run away from.

You claim Tinubu can’t win and you also fear him contesting. It’s sucks to be igbos. Losers!

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

oludavkay:
The igbos know as long as tinubu is alive and politically active, they don't have any chance in Lagos, but sincerely they want to get their share even if it is 10%. Unfortunately his successor will be brutal and domineering that they will prefer tinubu's leadership.

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

WikiGuru:
My first ever comment on Nairaland!

1. Those Vans are registered to a company

2. The company is most likely (80% certain) registered with the necessary agencies; CBN, Corporate Affairs Commission, Credit Bureau, etc.

3. The Vans were driven by humans.

3. Those humans know where they took the money from.

4. People loaded the money with a MANIFEST, which most likely (90% certain) contains the actual amount, origin and final destination.

Finally,
5. Ever heard the word Subpoena?

The prosecuting council just has to subpoena the drivers of the Vans, who will under oath, give the name of the company contracted. The company gives the name of the bank, the bank produces the manifest, which will reveal the content and exact figure in those Vans.

Please note that, it is not a crime to move any amount of money around, so long as you are within the country. Again, you can have as much cash as possible in your home, no offence at all!

But,

Making or accepting cash payment exceeding 5million is a criminal offence if it is not done through a financial institution. See section 1 of the Money Laundering Act and the case of *ATOYEBI v. FRN (2017) LPELR-43831(SC)*

So, from the manifest, the actual amount in both Vans will definitely be revealed and if it is believed to be cash payments for anything at all, and it is above 5million, that is when the problem may arise.

Please don't attack me, I'm just a Wikipedia Editor who has vast knowledge in legal matters, emanating from my exposure to Articles on Wikipedia.

Thanks,
© WikiGuru.

Nitah1:
But the man said he's no longer in government nor received any contract from government......if you want to raise an alarm don't you think ii should be with verifiable evidence?

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

DLuciano:
But Magu is too partial and bias

baliyubla:
The choice before Thiefnibu is simple, give up your illusionary 2023 ambition or go to jail.

It’s no coincidence that the same day Magu was removed, there were protest calling for Thiefnibus head.

The Chigago Drug barons Presidential ambition is DOA. Fear North.

wirinet:
You guys - PDP, IPOB and allies, just like to make a mountain out of a mole Hill. They are just too obsessed with Tinubu. Bullion vans deliver money to both APC and non-APC members on a daily basis. You don't think that people managing corporate accounts with billions of naira would walk into a banking hall, withdraw millions in cash, and load the cash inside their car booths. People like Dangote, Otedola, Adenuga, Alakija, emeka ofor, etc will leave their house to go to a banking Hall when they need cash.

Delivering cash to a customer's house by a bank is not a crime. The crime would be if it can be proven that the money is proceeds from crime or the money was used for criminal activities.

Judeerons32:
They still will link Asiwaju to any news. Sometimes I wonder those who shout bullion vans if they are not mischievous or just plain stupid. If u take Asiwaju to court. Did u see the contents of the vans? Do you know how much were in the vans assuming it was money? Is there a law against banks transporting 5million in bullion vans? Assuming he says that's what it was. Really how the bullion van and Asiwaju is tied to Magu travail just bests my imagination everytime I read it. Some people just don't get tired.

emkz:
Secondly, I suggest you comment more so that folks be more informed. Most threads are taken over by ignorant folks who arrogantly advertise their ignorance by throwing insults.

Amitex:
My prediction is that Orji Kalu ... will revenge. It is going to be a BIG REVENGE. Just wait!

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Sorry, some people pushed Magu to send Orji Kalu to jail because of their 2023 presidential ambition. Since the man came out of prison, whether by hook or crook means, all those behind his incarceration are in TROUBLE. Kanu is highly connected. Have you noticed that his home has become political "mecca" of recent?

emkz:
I tire.

Some of these children think it is easy to prove an allegation against someone beyond all reasonable doubt. It is a herculean task.

An average lawyer would question the petitioner as follows:

Lawyer: You saw bullion vans driving into the respondent's house on February 22nd 2019 at 1700 hours?
Petitioner/Witness (with an air of pride that the questions would be easy): Yes!
Lawyer: Can you tell the honourable court the contents of the vans?
Petitioner/Witness: Money!
Lawyer: Can you give the court an estimate of how much money was there?
Petitioner/Witness: I don't know.
Lawyer: Fair enough. Did you see money loaded into the vans and offloaded from the vans, and if so, can you tell us the originating bank where the money emanated from?
Petitioner/Witness: That is for the EFCC to investigate....
Lawyer (cuts in sharply): ... but you made the allegation. How can you make an allegation without solid evidence? We are not aware that a bank was robbed, we are also not aware that the contents of the vans was indeed money. It could as well have been food to feed the people in his house. We can as well ask the company whose bullion vans were used to transport whatever, but what if the vans drove in empty to pick up money to take to the polling centres? Have you considered that? I think it is not enough to submit a petition accusing someone of something without in the least a pictorial evidence of the contents of the van. (Turns to the judge) I think the petitioner is looking for cheap fame and made a naive attempt to smear the image of the respondent. I pray to the honourable court that, as a deterrent to the petitioner and people like him, the petitioner pays the cost of this court sitting and aggravated damages of 1 billion naira or a jail term of 5 years in lieu of the fine.
Petitioner/Witness (in his mind): who will save me now? I have a wife and dependants, who would take care of them? Why I no just leave this matter alone when I know say I no get proof?

Bottomline: It is not enough to accuse, proof is the meat.

Tflex01:
Lol... I won't take you serious.

Abiola won in all regions in Nigeria (Even won Tofa his opponent in Tofa's local government and his Kano state) but same Abiola lost in Igbos' South East.

Did Abiola allign with Buhari too??

Originalsly:
I'm no longer with government nor have contract with government.... what does that mean?.... that he can't steal from government? The alarm was for him to be investigated.... investigations that can lead to evidence.... or to clear his name. Why no investigations?

emkz:
I tire.

Some of these children think it is easy to prove an allegation against someone beyond all reasonable doubt. It is a herculean task.

An average lawyer would question the petitioner as follows:

Lawyer: You saw bullion vans driving into the respondent's house on February 22nd 2019 at 1700 hours?
Petitioner/Witness (with an air of pride that the questions would be easy): Yes!
Lawyer: Can you tell the honourable court the contents of the vans?
Petitioner/Witness: Money!
Lawyer: Can you give the court an estimate of how much money was there?
Petitioner/Witness: I don't know.
Lawyer: Fair enough. Did you see money loaded into the vans and offloaded from the vans, and if so, can you tell us the originating bank where the money emanated from?
Petitioner/Witness: That is for the EFCC to investigate....
Lawyer (cuts in sharply): ... but you made the allegation. How can you make an allegation without solid evidence? We are not aware that a bank was robbed, we are also not aware that the contents of the vans was indeed money. It could as well have been food to feed the people in his house. We can as well ask the company whose bullion vans were used to transport whatever, but what if the vans drove in empty to pick up money to take to the polling centres? Have you considered that? I think it is not enough to submit a petition accusing someone of something without in the least a pictorial evidence of the contents of the van. (Turns to the judge) I think the petitioner is looking for cheap fame and made a naive attempt to smear the image of the respondent. I pray to the honourable court that, as a deterrent to the petitioner and people like him, the petitioner pays the cost of this court sitting and aggravated damages of 1 billion naira or a jail term of 5 years in lieu of the fine.
Petitioner/Witness (in his mind): who will save me now? I have a wife and dependants, who would take care of them? Why I no just leave this matter alone when I know say I no get proof?

Bottomline: It is not enough to accuse, proof is the meat.

MrBONE2:
But they didn't see the money inside the Vans

emkz:
If it was this easy, I don't see why Tinubu and his fans are even concerned��

I tire.

Some of these children think it is easy to prove an allegation against someone beyond all reasonable doubt. It is a herculean task.

An average lawyer would question the petitioner as follows:

Lawyer: You saw bullion vans driving into the respondent's house on February 22nd 2019 at 1700 hours?
Petitioner/Witness (with an air of pride that the questions would be easy): Yes!
Lawyer: Can you tell the honourable court the contents of the vans?
Petitioner/Witness: Money!
Lawyer: Can you give the court an estimate of how much money was there?
Petitioner/Witness: I don't know.
Lawyer: Fair enough. Did you see money loaded into the vans and offloaded from the vans, and if so, can you tell us the originating bank where the money emanated from?
Petitioner/Witness: That is for the EFCC to investigate....
Lawyer (cuts in sharply): ... but you made the allegation. How can you make an allegation without solid evidence? We are not aware that a bank was robbed, we are also not aware that the contents of the vans was indeed money. It could as well have been food to feed the people in his house. We can as well ask the company whose bullion vans were used to transport whatever, but what if the vans drove in empty to pick up money to take to the polling centres? Have you considered that? I think it is not enough to submit a petition accusing someone of something without in the least a pictorial evidence of the contents of the van. (Turns to the judge) I think the petitioner is looking for cheap fame and made a naive attempt to smear the image of the respondent. I pray to the honourable court that, as a deterrent to the petitioner and people like him, the petitioner pays the cost of this court sitting and aggravated damages of 1 billion naira or a jail term of 5 years in lieu of the fine.
Petitioner/Witness (in his mind): who will save me now? I have a wife and dependants, who would take care of them? Why I no just leave this matter alone when I know say I no get proof?

Bottomline: It is not enough to accuse, proof is the meat.

emkz:
First, I put a like on your comment.

Secondly, I suggest you comment more so that folks be more informed. Most threads are taken over by ignorant folks who arrogantly advertise their ignorance by throwing insults.

Thirdly, I cannot attack you. I know a matured mind when I sense one.

Finally, your argument is spot on.

Yet you speak as though you are 200% sure money was in the bullion vans. My issue here is that our emergency journalists and latter-day activists are shouting that Tinubu should be investigated because bullion vans entered his house. No one knows what entered the house with the bullion vans, it could be money, it could be election materials, they could be empty to even pick up money from Tinubu's house. Until someone can have enough evidence to present a sensible petition, these people are engaging in an exercise in futility.

Your argument that making transactions above 5 million being illegal does not mean it is not happening. Many of the wealthy northern oligarchs are doing this everyday. The point is that no financial institution or regulatory agency has flagged Tinubu for financial impropriety concerning those bullion vans. So on what basis should we investigate him?