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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:15am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
The person wey call you "Snake" for this thread, na JW ?

Why did that person call you "Snake"?

If you are not a BIGOT will that person call you "Snake"?

Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization.
Janosky: The person wey call you "Snake" for this thread, na JW ?

Achorladey: Why is that a problem of mine.

Janosky: Why did that person call you "Snake"?

Achorladey: The person has not left nairaland go and ask the personality. The question will be answered grin grin grin

Janosky: If you are not a BIGOT will that person call you "Snake"?

Achorladey: After defining BIGOTRY and you confidently accepted the post are not meant to promote BIGOTRY you still went ahead to type the above. I told you are lost. Go and check meaning of BIGOTRY and bring it HERE grin grin grin

Janosky: Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization.

Achorladey: the magazines,organization policies subject to review, court cases, subpoena to numerous commission, disfellowship of those CAUGHT must be LIES and BIGOTRY grin grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:27am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
1)
Is anyone prevented from access to JW official website?

Which Source you lifted the Watchtower study articles ?

*2)
Why did Peter sin against Jesus when he knew it's unscriptural practice?
Janosky: Is anyone prevented from access to JW official website?

Achorladey: Do they have access to the files of CHILD ABUSERS in your organization. What do you do to such files when they request for it? grin grin grin grin

Janosky: Which Source you lifted the Watchtower study articles?

Achorladey: Go find out yourself, they are LIES and BIGOTRY grin grin grin cheesy

Janosky: Why did Peter sin against Jesus when he knew it's unscriptural practice?

Achorladey: This will serve as REASONS for your ORGANIZATION carrying out UNSCRIPTURAL PRACTICES. grin grin grin

At all cost organization must be defended.

One of your brothers said all religious organization have sinners in them and PAEDOPHILES included. Go and liaise with him why Peter SIN against JESUS. That PHARISEE and the tax collector coming back at you in full force
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:30am On Jul 14, 2020
Maximus69:
Sorry my friend, i'm done with the thread! smiley

You are speaking the language of the adversary, so none of our brothers will take you in as one of us. Try to move closer to those who are spirit filled amongst us and stick close to them, it's a language we speak globally, without it you'll always feel God's people are not loving, but once our people notice you're not speaking the pure language, they'll stay away from you even when you're attending meetings as a witness.

YOU MUST SPEAK THE PURE LANGUAGE!

Goodbye! smiley
Speaking in tongues is the only language addressed by God in the Bible, not pure language.

It seems I'll keep educating you maximus, on your religion.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:36am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization.
If you are going to lie about it, at least come up with some evidence first..
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Various individuals, courts and the media around the world have raised concerns about the manner in which cases of child sexual abuse are handled when they occur in congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses.
[1] An independent 2009 study in Norway was critical of how Jehovah's Witnesses dealt with cases of child sexual abuse but stated there is no indication that the rate of sexual abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses is higher than found in general society.
The organization officially "abhors" child sexual abuse, and states "the incidence of this crime among Jehovah's Witnesses is rare."
The Society's child abuse policies have been published in Jehovah's Witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request. Press releases issued by the Watch Tower Society's Office of Public Information state that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, " the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.
In 2015, it was disclosed that the Australia Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses had records of 1,006 alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse, relating to more than 1,800 victims since 1950, none of which were reported to police by the group.
Some media and courts have reported that Jehovah's Witnesses employ organizational policies, which the group says are "Bible-based", that make the reporting of sexual abuse difficult for members.
Some victims of sexual abuse have said they were ordered by local elders to maintain silence to avoid embarrassment to both the accused and the organization, Members are told they have every right to report crimes to secular authorities separately to reporting the "sin" to congregation elders.
Janosky:
The person wey call you "Snake" for this thread, na JW ?

Why did that person call you "Snake"?

If you are not a BIGOT will that person call you "Snake"?

Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:39am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
When you realize that HAPPINESS is not restricted to the confines of your ORGANIZATION grin grin grin grin. At least you know Jesus Christ himself said so grin grin grin.
The truth is most Christians will wish the downfall of others, if it means proving their God exist.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:40am On Jul 14, 2020
brocab:
Yes -stay with Spirit filled born again believers-forget the cult's-stick with Jesus, speak the Lord's message and come to join us and be set free!
Don't be fooled by Watchtower literature, speak the language of Christ into your heart, don't be threaten by JW fools, stand up and believe Jesus Christ is Lord..
We are chosen not by men-but God chooses us for His Son Jesus Christ-break free from watchtower bondage of torment and come as a soldier of God and Join Christ and His army who fight a war through prayer-against the principalities and the powers of darkness that will only seek it's enemy to draw us further away from the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit....
As we read Maximus69 had already dump you like a rag doll-cast you out for what? because you don't speak his language? "This is already a sign-his leading you on the wrong path, Max like a brother to you, have cast you out..
It's not Maximus fault' the Watchtower had already led many into Hell itself.
Stand up with boldness, let's stand together in Christ...
lol

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:42am On Jul 14, 2020
Which is quite sad_ because those who claim to be Christians, aren't really Christians-but judges of evil thoughts about others...So which one are you??
GRIMMJOE:
The truth is most Christians will wish the downfall of others, if it means proving their God exist.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:47am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
One of your brothers said all religious organization have sinners in them and PAEDOPHILES included. Go and liaise with him why Peter SIN against JESUS. That PHARISEE and the tax collector coming back at you in full force
And they claim to speak the same language, languages of lies.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:49am On Jul 14, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
The truth is most Christians will wish the downfall of others, if it means proving their God exist.
Lol! e get as e be like Janosky using Peter example to justify why his ORGANIZATION too can SIN. Peter will go down the drain with his ORGANIZATION grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:49am On Jul 14, 2020
DappaD:
All of Jehovah's Witnesses speak the same pure language! Zephaniah 3:9
So you my dear sir are not ONE of us! smiley
Hmmmmmmmm,


The JW language! smiley smiley smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:50am On Jul 14, 2020
brocab:
Which is quite sad_ because those who claim to be Christians, aren't really Christians-but judges of evil thoughts about others...So which one are you??
All Christians are Christians, but not all Christians are Christ like.

Slap them on one check, and plan your funeral.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:53am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
Lol! e get as e be like Janosky using Peter example to justify why his ORGANIZATION too can SIN. Peter will go down the drain with his ORGANIZATION grin grin grin grin
If only he knew what one of his brethren said.

"Sin is eradicated from the mist of Jehovah's witness"
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky:
brocab:
If you are going to lie about it, at least come up with some evidence first..
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Various individuals, courts and the media around the world have raised concerns about the manner in which cases of child sexual abuse are handled when they occur in congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses.
[1] An independent 2009 study in Norway was critical of how Jehovah's Witnesses dealt with cases of child sexual abuse but stated

*1)
"there is no indication that the rate of sexual abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses is higher than found in general society[
/color].
*2
The organization officially "abhors" child sexual abuse, and states "the incidence of this crime among Jehovah's Witnesses is rare."

[color=#000099]The Society's child abuse policies have been published in Jehovah's Witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request. Press releases issued by the Watch Tower Society's Office of Public Information state that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "
the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.
In 2015, it was disclosed that the Australia Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses had records of
**3) 1,006 alleged perpetrators
of child sexual abuse, relating to more than 1,800 victims since 1950, none of which were reported to police by the group.

Some media and courts have reported that Jehovah's Witnesses employ organizational policies, which the group says are "Bible-based", that make the reporting of sexual abuse difficult for members.
Some victims of sexual abuse have said they were ordered by local elders to maintain silence to avoid embarrassment to both the accused and the organization,
**4)
Members are told they have every right to report crimes to secular authorities separately to reporting the "sin" to congregation elders
.
Hypocrite making noises upandan grin

If brocab family members are arrested for crime, does it mean crime ABOUNDS in brocab family?

Bros,go and wear Double Reading Glasses and Read *1 to **4 Again and again until your brain can Digest that info you typed yourself.
I repeat and it's a FACT:
"Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization."


Brocab, touch not my anointed rapists , paedophiles and do my profits no harm child molesters no dey your church?
How many you done report to the Police?

When you don't understand English language you come online and make idiotic,bigoted posts.
grin grin

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:03am On Jul 14, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
If only he knew what one of his brethren said.

"Sin is eradicated from the midst of Jehovah's witness"
Lol, before the sin is eradicated it confirms sinners abound in their midst grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:09am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Hypocrite making noises upandan grin

Bros,go and wear Double Reading Glasses and Read *1 to **4 Again and again until your brain can Digest that info you typed yourself.
I repeat and it's a FACT:
"Paedophiles Do NOT abound in Jehovah's organization."


Brocab, touch not my anointed rapists , paedophiles and do my profits no harm child molesters no dey your church?
How many you done report to the Police?

When you don't understand English language you come online and make idiotic,bigoted posts.
grin grin

Your asking him to go and read 1-4 equally confirms paedophiles abound in your organization. Indicators.........minimal case was reported confirms it is there

1006 cases in a particular country shows its there.

That you have child abuse POLICIES also shows its a problem. You don't need POLICIES for what is ABSENT you don't see as PROBLEMS.

Members are told to report child abuse cases to government authorities equally confirm it abounds. Do you report what is not happening?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:09am On Jul 14, 2020
brocab:
[color=#000099]We are chosen not by men-but God chooses us for His Son Jesus Christ
-]
Omo una dey See Brocab CONFESSION grin
MUMU Triune pagan IDOL WORSHIPPERS, your almighty deity depends on his God to choose for him.

grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky:
achorladey:
Your asking him to go and read 1-4 equally confirms paedophiles abound in your organization. Indicators.........minimal case was reported confirms it is there

1006 cases in a particular country shows its there.

That you have child abuse POLICIES also shows its a problem. You don't need POLICIES for what is ABSENT you don't see as PROBLEMS.

Members are told to report child abuse cases to government authorities equally confirm it abounds. Do you report what is not happening?
Archoladey fallacy of generalization grin
Alleged perpetrators, according to the ARC..
is Achorladey blind?
When Archoladey's family members are alleged to have committed a crime does it mean that criminals ABOUNDS in his family?


Achorladey has Dodge question2 because he no wan wound himself angry grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:21am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
Lol! e get as e be like Janosky using Peter example to justify why his ORGANIZATION too can SIN. Peter will go down the drain with his ORGANIZATION grin grin grin grin
Is rape a sin ?
Is Peter bearing false witness a sin.

Snake man Archoladey grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:33am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
Lol, before the sin is eradicated it confirms sinners abound in their midst grin grin grin
Just as Archoladey is a sinner..
Him no holy pass Jehovah's servants grin

Some day him must CONFESS that thing wey deh give am sifia pains whenever he see JWs thread grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:34am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Alleged perpetrators, according to the ARC..
is Achorladey blind?
When Archoladey's family members are alleged to have committed a crime does it mean that criminals ABOUNDS in your family?
The problems you have is you don't accept when you are lost. Until you have no room to turn. ALLEGED or not ALLEGED the 1006 case file was obtained from WHERE?

a. From ARC b. From your organization

Why were they keeping it if it were JUST ALLEGED grin grin grin.

a. For allegations purpose. b. For home and interior decoration of the organization


I just Smh for you. Now look at the image below. Is It still ALLEGED?

At least I am not flogging you because paedophiles dey your organization grin grin grin grin

So Achorladey is not blind except you cherish that alleged so much you cannot see what is before you.

They were not just ALLEGATIONS oga shine your eyes they include ADMISSION to the crime. : shocked shocked shocked

Out of the three points from brocab you picked 1 that in itself tell you that you are LOST but you won't admit.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:37am On Jul 14, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Speaking in tongues is the only language addressed by God in the Bible, not pure language.

It seems I'll keep educating you maximus, on your religion.
Because GRIMMJOE knows not and he feels he knows it all grin
Wetin concern atheist and Bible he doesn't believe in?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:37am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Just as Archoladey is a sinner..
Him no holy pass Jehovah's servants grin

Some day him must CONFESS that thing wey deh give am sifia pains whenever he see JWs thread grin grin
I told you, you are lost. You finally show that paedophiles abound in your midst. As long as you remember from your own mouth, YOU NO HOLY PASS OTHER CHRISTIANS out there grin grin grin grin

Thank you for accepting that the common denominators you share with every other Christian is SINNERS grin grin grin grin in which paedophillia is included grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:42am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Is rape a sin ?
Is Peter bearing false witness a sin.

Snake man Archoladey grin grin
You see where I keep you now.

All the blame go fall on the Peter the FIRST MEMBER of the GOVERNING BODY grin grin grin grin.

Dont forget to HAVE COMPLETE TRUST in Peter as long as you remember he is a SINNER and na FALSE WITNESS of his master(Jesus christ) and JEHOVAH grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:44am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Archoladey fallacy of generalization grin
Alleged perpetrators, according to the ARC..
is Achorladey blind?
When Archoladey's family members are alleged to have committed a crime does it mean that criminals ABOUNDS in his family?
Yes na.

If someone in the family committed a crime, we can easily say their is a criminal in their mist, in your case criminals.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:44am On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
The problems you have is you don't accept when you are lost. Until you have no room to turn. ALLEGED or not ALLEGED the 1006 case file was obtained from WHERE?

a. From ARC b. From your organization

Why were they keeping it if it were JUST ALLEGED grin grin grin.

a. For allegations purpose. b. For home and interior decoration of the organization


I just Smh for you. Now look at the image below. Is It still ALLEGED?

At least I am not flogging you because paedophiles dey your organization grin grin grin grin

So Achorladey is not blind except you cherish that alleged so much you cannot see what is before you.

They were not just ALLEGATIONS oga shine your eyes they include ADMISSION to the crime. : shocked shocked shocked

Out of the three points from brocab you picked 1 that in itself tell you that you are LOST but you won't admit.
Bigotry virus dey Archoladey blood grin.
Rape Activist ,Archoladey bring one Evidence of the rape , child abuse case you done prosecute
grin grin

Is the ARC a court of Law?
Why you hide the fact ARC said many of those allegations were circumstantial ?


Shame on you, Archoladey na the textbook wey your grand father use in 1950's na you use write your WAEC ?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:47am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Because GRIMMJOE knows not and he feels he knows it all grin
Wetin concern atheist and Bible he doesn't believe in?
I know the Bible and I understand it, that's why I know a God can't exist.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 11:50am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Bigotry virus dey Archoladey blood grin

Shame on you,A Archoladey na the textbook wey your grand father use in 1950's na you use for your WAEC ?
You miss the SINCE before 1950 grin grin grin grin to confirm when una don dey abuse CHILDREN for una midst just like the CATHOLICS you people want to shame.


If na TRINITY now you will not remember your forefathers didn't write WAEC since 313 C.E Nicene creed. It turns to your case of child abuse you don't want us to go back in TIME when your forefathers wrote WAEC grin grin grin grin

You want to DIVERT again grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:52am On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
Bigotry virus dey Archoladey blood grin.

Why you hide the fact ARC said many of those allegations were circumstantial....

Shame on you, Archoladey na the textbook wey your grand father use in 1950's na you use write your WAEC ?
Archoladey, it seems you've shot this one's brain back to 1950, just like you shot that other one's brain back to 2005.

Very soon, very soon, they'll wake up to reality.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:58am On Jul 14, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I know the Bible and I understand it, that's why I know a God can't exist.
You understand Naaaaaaaa ! grin

Revelations 4:11.
“You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:01pm On Jul 14, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Archoladey, it seems you've shot this one's brain back to 1950, just like you shot that other one's brain back to 2005.

Very soon, very soon, they'll wake up to reality.
He is trying very hard to remove the rope from thenneck of the ORGANIZATION. The same organization that said the following recently.....The religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses also provides spiritual comfort and assistance to child abuse victims and their families

If they are not abound in the organization why are they providing support for victims and their FAMILIES? Smh.

"Very soon, very soon, they'll wake up to reality" it a matter of time.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:03pm On Jul 14, 2020
Janosky:
You understand Naaaaaaaa ! grin

Revelations 4:11.
“You are worthy, Jehovah our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they came into existence and were created.”

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 12:05pm On Jul 14, 2020
achorladey:
He is trying very hard to remove the rope from thenneck of the ORGANIZATION. The same organization that said the following recently.....The religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses also provides spiritual comfort and assistance to child abuse victims and their families

If they are not abound in the organization why are they providing support for victims and their FAMILIES? Smh.

"Very soon, very soon, they'll wake up to reality" it a matter of time.
He's in denial.
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