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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Theonejabulani2: 7:20am On Jul 16, 2020
Hmmmm
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 7:31am On Jul 16, 2020
Techiekingee:
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Oga, stop giving us false stats....
Messi 70 goals in 138 caps
Ron, 99 goals in 164 caps
I don't want to go into details on how easier it is to score more goals in Euro than in Conmebol due to the more amount of teams in Euro(low Fifa Rankin teams).....


"If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g"

"Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps.."


U see urself??..See how u are contradicting Urself...u are comparing Ronaldo's 9yrs in madrid right from 2009 to Messi's 15yrs in barca starting from 2005...how is this fair??..
Y not compare both of them right from when Ronaldo came to laliga till when he left....2009-2018...
Let me help u
2009-2018 in Laliga, Ronaldo 311 goals in 292 apps
................................., Messi. 329 goals in 309 apps....

Now do the maths and see who had the better ratio...

U added Messi's early career when he was still finding his foot and are using it to compare Ronaldo's peak 2009-2018....na wa o...

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Yeah, some of my stats were incorrect... but even with that ronaldo's 99 goals in 164 apps( ratio 1.7) is still better compared to messi's 70goals in 138 apps( ratio 1.9)... while their ratio in la liga is the same....
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 7:51am On Jul 16, 2020
Techiekingee:

"Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo"

Listen to urself, Messi will never be as good as Ronaldo....I laugh...
Is it the Ronaldo that his teammates in Man U told him that Messi is better than him and all he could say was at least i have a better hair than him...

"The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

...Isn't it a Shame for Ronaldo??...he is taller and more physical, yet one small guy still overshadows him and has as much goals as he.....u think it's about height...
Ronaldo is much physical and yet he dives and falls at every slightest touch....
Do I need to explain to u how much Messi's physicality is underrated.....Man literally runs the entire field with defenders kicking him and he still manages to stay up...
FYI, if Ronaldo recieved half the tackles Messi receives, he'd av retired....take it or leave it

And good creators don't always equal good assisters....they are different.... Ronaldo isn't half the creator or playmaker KDB, Iniesta or Eriksen are yet he has more assists than three of them combined....so, the fact that Ronaldo has those assists doesn't make him a creator or playmaker...He can't swap roles with Pjanic..unless u Want doom for Juve....
My point is Forwards tend to have the most assists




Forwards tend to have the most assist?? pls tell me how many assist does the likes of ibra, raul, cavani, lewa, kane, de lima, pele have....

How can ronaldo who is very stingy(according to pessi fans) have over 200 assists?? as in imagine how many he would have if he wasnt stingy..

The Op even said MOST of cr7 assists were accidental.. like in 200 different occasions, cr7 played a shot that was destined for the top corner only for his team mate to stick out a leg and score the goal himself abi... lwkm

And bro, being a good creator equals creating a high number of goal scoring chances for ur team mates.. and only messi can top cr7 in this aspect
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 8:58am On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:



Forwards tend to have the most assist?? pls tell me how many assist does the likes of ibra, raul, cavani, lewa, kane, de lima, pele have....

How can ronaldo who is very stingy(according to pessi fans) have over 200 assists?? as in imagine how many he would have if he wasnt stingy..

The Op even said MOST of cr7 assists were accidental.. like in 200 different occasions, cr7 played a shot that was destined for the top corner only for his team mate to stick out a leg and score the goal himself abi... lwkm

And bro, being a good creator equals creating a high number of goal scoring chances for ur team mates.. and only messi can top cr7 in this aspect


Lol check your stats well, Luis Suarez has more assists than Ronaldo.
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 9:13am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:


Lol check your stats well, Luis Suarez has more assists than Ronaldo.
bros, you deserve hot slap for this kind yeye statement..
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 9:52am On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:


bros, you deserve hot slap for this kind yeye statement..

Like I said, I wasn't expecting better.

Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by PrinxArthur1(m): 10:34am On Jul 16, 2020
LukasPodolski:

also take the number of games played into consideration.

Ronaldo had more than 140 apps than Messi and the goal difference between them I just 27-28 goals.


Player A scored 10 goals in 15 matches.

Player B scored 11 goals in 19 matches.

who is a better scorer ?
player A has 66% goal scored while player b has 57%
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by PrinxArthur1(m): 10:37am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:


Like I said, I wasn't expecting better.
with this your shitty statistics,you are telling everyone that cares to listen that ronaldo have played more matches than Zlatan ibrahimovich?
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by chrissy3(m): 10:53am On Jul 16, 2020
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The bias is nauseating.
I'm a man utd fan and I've been saying messi is better for ages. Football is a game of rivalry but It doesn't mean you should not say the truth when you see it. If I keep supply away from ronaldo, he becomes ordinary but if I keep supply away from messi, he would go get the ball, break through defense and either score or assist. This is the biggest threat messi has that ronaldo doesn't have and that's why messi just edges him out . We have to give ronaldo total respect and it's ok for people to have their preferences . But for me , the ability to single handedly destroy defenses without any help from team mates makes messi edge ronaldo out slightly. It's really close btw them

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by chrissy3(m): 10:59am On Jul 16, 2020
Fastestmanalive:

Ronaldo/ Messi comparison


Ronaldo= Most goals
Second most assists

Messi= second most goals
most assists

Goals win games so Ronaldo wins.

It's not a coincidence that he won real Madrid 4 champions League titles.

smiley

don't forget messi has played more than 100games fewer than ronaldo cause he's 2years younger . Add that when you bring stats so it would be unbiased
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:06am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:


Like I said, I wasn't expecting better.
...

Fake stats.. ronaldo has 262 assists while messi has 326... you can check it on Wikipedia...

I doubt if Suarez and ibra even has up to 200 assist sef
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by chrissy3(m): 11:06am On Jul 16, 2020
All this argument comes down to who has more ballon dor titles . I think the answer settles it .simple and short . The amount of times you are the best in the world makes top .

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Theonejabulani2: 11:07am On Jul 16, 2020
PrinxArthur1:
with this your shitty statistics,you are telling everyone that cares to listen that ronaldo have played more matches than Zlatan ibrahimovich?
And you don't think that's possible?
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by LukasPodolski: 11:07am On Jul 16, 2020
Fastestmanalive:



Your analysis only takes place in 15 vs 19 matches

What I'm saying is that he scored 450 goals in his 438 total matches for real Madrid.

That's a goal ratio of 1.18 goals per match

That is the highest in history.

As for total goals scored

So yeah Ronaldo is the best.

Messi is undoubtedly good but he's not the best

As for the total goals scored

Age has nothing to do with it

Ronaldo is still the highest

If Messi were the best he would have closed the gap.

smiley

He scored 450 goals in 438 apps and so what?

You said he didn't close the goal gap, are you fvcking joking?

The difference in the apps is 140+ while the goal difference is just 20+ (does closing the gap means something else ?)

As if scoring the most goals in the last decade wasn't enough Messi still had the highest assist in that same decade (what else are these Ronaldo fans looking for?)

Most goals in the calendar year (92goals in 2012)

Highest European golden boot (6 against Ronaldo's 4)

The second player in the history to have 20+ goals and 20+ assist after Henry.

Most take ons
Most chances created

What else are you guys looking for?

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by chrissy3(m): 11:07am On Jul 16, 2020
Techiekingee:

"Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo"

Listen to urself, Messi will never be as good as Ronaldo....I laugh...
Is it the Ronaldo that his teammates in Man U told him that Messi is better than him and all he could say was at least i have a better hair than him...

"The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

...Isn't it a Shame for Ronaldo??...he is taller and more physical, yet one small guy still overshadows him and has as much goals as he.....u think it's about height...
Ronaldo is much physical and yet he dives and falls at every slightest touch....
Do I need to explain to u how much Messi's physicality is underrated.....Man literally runs the entire field with defenders kicking him and he still manages to stay up...
FYI, if Ronaldo recieved half the tackles Messi receives, he'd av retired....take it or leave it

And good creators don't always equal good assisters....they are different.... Ronaldo isn't half the creator or playmaker KDB, Iniesta or Eriksen are yet he has more assists than three of them combined....so, the fact that Ronaldo has those assists doesn't make him a creator or playmaker...He can't swap roles with Pjanic..unless u Want doom for Juve....
My point is Forwards tend to have the most assists


all this argument btw who's better comes down to who has more ballon dor. The answer settles it and messi has

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by LukasPodolski: 11:11am On Jul 16, 2020
This Ronaldo's embarrassing Performance yesterday, He was the worst player on the pitch.

Mr new Challenger looking for a new challenge in a farmers league where a single team has won the last 8 titles(9th is underway)

Dybala was the brain box behind Juventus.

Man as scored 12 penalties this season, lots of tappins and just one free kick.

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 11:15am On Jul 16, 2020
PrinxArthur1:
with this your shitty statistics,you are telling everyone that cares to listen that ronaldo have played more matches than Zlatan ibrahimovich?

YES. Ronaldo has more appearances that ibrahimovic. The joke is on you if you think appearances is by age.
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:17am On Jul 16, 2020
chrissy3:
I'm a man utd fan and I've been saying messi is better for ages. Football is a game of rivalry but It doesn't mean you should not say the truth when you see it. If I keep supply away from ronaldo, he becomes ordinary but if I keep supply away from messi, he would go get the ball, break through defense and either score or assist. This is the biggest threat messi has that ronaldo doesn't have and that's why messi just edges him out . We have to give ronaldo total respect and it's ok for people to have their preferences . But for me , the ability to single handedly destroy defenses without any help from team mates makes messi edge ronaldo out slightly. It's really close btw them

If Messi can single handedly destroy defences and win games without his team mate, tell me why he hasn't been able to do the same with Argentina and win a single trophy... tell me why he did not destroy l'pool defence last season and juve defence the season before that..

Messi needs xavi, iniesta, and neymar to perform.. and that explains the reason why he doesn't have an international trophy and also the reason why he hasn't been able to win the UCL since those guys left

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by LukasPodolski: 11:20am On Jul 16, 2020
This stats hasn't been updated since the restart of leagues act Europe.

So far Messi has scored 3 goals after the restart (that makes the total 700 career goals) ..... Add whatever the penalties your penaldo has scored after the lockdown to the stats.

Can you guys see the difference, the difference In the apps is 140+ while the goal difference is just 25+ and someone still thinks Messi didn't close the gap,,, hahahaha.


To the UCL goals, if Messi reached the number of app Ronaldo has and Messi didn't overtake him then we can talk.

https://messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/



Cc
Fastestmanalive
Officialjayy

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:32am On Jul 16, 2020
LukasPodolski:
This stats hasn't been updated since the restart of leagues act Europe.

So far Messi has scored 3 goals after the restart (that makes the total 700 career goals) ..... Add whatever the penalties your penaldo has scored after the lockdown to the stats.

Can you guys see the difference, the difference In the apps is 140+ while the goal difference is just 25+ and someone still thinks Messi didn't close the gap,,, hahahaha.


To the UCL goals, if Messi reached the number of app Ronaldo has and Messi didn't overtake him then we can talk.

https://messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/



Cc
Fastestmanalive
Officialjayy


Messi will overtake ronaldo in the UCL?? very funny..
It will interest you to know that cr7 was once TRAILING messi in the goal scoring charts and if not because cr7 has not been scoring much lately, the difference would be about 40goals by now

See bros, you can compare cr7 and messi in other aspect, but when it comes to UCL and international scene, forget am
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 11:33am On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:
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Fake stats.. ronaldo has 262 assists while messi has 326... you can check it on Wikipedia...

I doubt if Suarez and ibra even has up to 200 assist sef


Oga Luis Suarez has over 200 assists,I don't know where you get your stats from. Take a screenshot of Ronaldo's total assists from Wikipedia.
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 11:35am On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:


If Messi can single handedly destroy defences and win games without his team mate, tell me why he hasn't been able to do the same with Argentina and win a single trophy... tell me why he did not destroy l'pool defence last season and juve defence the season before that..

Messi needs xavi, iniesta, and neymar to perform.. and that explains the reason why he doesn't have an international trophy and also the reason why he hasn't been able to win the UCL since those guys left


Messi has been the player of the tournament on four occasions with his national team. How many individual honors does Ronaldo have with Portugal?
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:40am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:



Messi has been the player of the tournament on four occasions with his national team. How many individual honors does Ronaldo have with Portugal?

Oga, show me international trophy, stop telling me player of the tournament..

Infact for Messi to have won a single POTT goes a long way to show the favoritism he enjoys from sport organisers.. I mean tell me how Messi who did not score a single goal in the K/o stages of 2014 wc won the best player over muller who won the WC and had more goals than messi
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 11:42am On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:


Oga, show me international trophy, stop telling me player of the tournament..

Infact for Messi to have won a single POTT goes a long way to show the favoritism he enjoys from sport organisers.. I mean tell me how Messi who did not score a single goal in the K/o stages of 2014 wc won the best player over muller who won the WC and had more goals than messi


Oliver Giroud has won the world cup,does that make him better than Ronaldo?
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:44am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:



Oga Luis Suarez has over 200 assists,I don't know where you get your stats from. Take a screenshot of Ronaldo's total assists from Wikipedia.

Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 11:53am On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:



Oliver Giroud has won the world cup,does that make him better than Ronaldo?

I never said Muller was better than Messi.. but rather I said Muller(who won the 2014 WC trophy and scored more goals than messi in that comp) should have won the best player ahead of messi..

Giroud might have won the WC in 2018 but everyone knows that cr7 was a better player in that tournament
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 12:02pm On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:


I never said Muller was better than Messi.. but rather I said Muller(who won the 2014 WC trophy and scored more goals than messi in that comp) should have won the best player ahead of messi..

Giroud might have won the WC in 2018 but everyone knows that cr7 was a better player in that tournament


Ok what about the copa American 2015,Olympic golden Ball and under 17 golden? was he also gifted?




I wasn't comparing Giroud to Ronaldo,I was only stating that a player can still win a football tournament without any contribution and another player might not be lucky to win that Same tournament after performing well. Calling Messi an international flop after he has won four golden balls is ridiculous.
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Techiekingee(m): 12:18pm On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:



Forwards tend to have the most assist?? pls tell me how many assist does the likes of ibra, raul, cavani, lewa, kane, de lima, pele have....

How can ronaldo who is very stingy(according to pessi fans) have over 200 assists?? as in imagine how many he would have if he wasnt stingy..

The Op even said MOST of cr7 assists were accidental.. like in 200 different occasions, cr7 played a shot that was destined for the top corner only for his team mate to stick out a leg and score the goal himself abi... lwkm

And bro, being a good creator equals creating a high number of goal scoring chances for ur team mates.. and only messi can top cr7 in this aspect
I'm sure u av seen it urself.... someone has already posted the picture showing players with most Goals and assists... obviously, their are no midfielders there....so, I dnt nid to prove to u again that forwards tend to av the most assists as they play closer to the goal post...

That doesn't make them Creators....

Go and find out players that have created most chances in the last 10 years...not assists
If u see Ronaldo in top 30, come and collect cold beer

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Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by OfficialJayy: 12:19pm On Jul 16, 2020
Bomboiy:



Ok what about the copa American 2015,Olympic golden Ball and under 17 golden? was he also gifted?




I wasn't comparing Giroud to Ronaldo,I was only stating that a player can still win a football tournament without any contribution and another player might not be lucky to win that Same tournament after performing well. Calling Messi an international flop after he has won four golden balls is ridiculous.

U17 and Olympics?? seriously bro?? are you joking??

copa 2015? that was a mere consolation prize.. Messi is the star player of copa america, they will always do anything to make him happy, and him winning the prize simply despite missing a penalty and not winning the competition goes a long way to validate my point..

And bros, pls explain to me how Messi who did not score a single goal in the knockout stages of the 2014 WC won the best player over Muller who won the tournament, and scored more goals than Messi
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Techiekingee(m): 12:20pm On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:
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Fake stats.. ronaldo has 262 assists while messi has 326... you can check it on Wikipedia...

I doubt if Suarez and ibra even has up to 200 assist sef
You doubt??.....are u optajose?
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Bomboiy: 12:23pm On Jul 16, 2020
OfficialJayy:


U17 and Olympics?? seriously bro?? are you joking??

copa 2015? that was a mere consolation prize.. Messi is the star player of copa america, they will always do anything to make him happy, and him winning the prize simply despite missing a penalty and not winning the competition goes a long way to validate my point..

And bros, pls explain to me how Messi who did not score a single goal in the knockout stages of the 2014 WC won the best player over Muller who won the tournament, and scored more goals than Messi


LMAO bro are you kidding me? you seriously want to discredit him after winning four golden boots,not one not two but four.


Ok when will Ronaldo get his own consolation prize? the fact that he has never won any individual honor with Portugal shows that he has not done anything spectacular with Portugal,he is just a carry-along player.
Re: Why Does Almost Every Football Pundit Pick Messi Ahead Of Ronaldo? by Tmo4: 12:24pm On Jul 16, 2020
Every good footballer will pick Messi ahead of Cr7.

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