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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by D4donnn: 9:00am On Jul 17, 2020
gbens2000:

We are all been toyed with, after he told me I should wait for d nxt shipment again for my two iPhone X, I message lionlee and he told me that he had already shipped the series of iPhone X long time ago.

Wait o he just told me mine is available and he is no longer replying my messages

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by utips: 9:03am On Jul 17, 2020
Why is twinskenny name not on the blacklist? I suggest all he’s items coming in be impounded, and a list of people he owes item should be known. @Lionlee216 you’ll be the one to help people out in ensuring he never gets he’s items until everyone he’s owning gets there package. This is a big fraudulent move, biggest ever in this dispute thread. When it happened to me I felt maybe because I’m not a regular here never knew it was he’s way of life. This is your last bus stop in such nonsense. You there using people’s hard earned money and sweat to build your scan empire. I don’t have any item with you but I’ve gotten my dose of your malicious and fraudulent ways. Let he’s name, moniker, account number and picture be uploaded on this dispute thread and also let it be pinned on technology section to create awareness.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by bbmike(m): 9:05am On Jul 17, 2020
donshaize:
Paid twinskenny for a locked 11 pro(220k) since 16th of May also, shipment has dropped multiple times and twinskenny keeps saying item isn’t amongst he didn’t get my pro

Last week shipment dropped twinskenny told me to come to his office at Ojota spent over 6k transporting to Ojota and back home even went with the owner of the phone cause the guy was saying I got his phone and sold it, got to Twinskenny’s office he said my phone didn’t drop said I should pay extra to get an unlock pro for 350k so I would be paying extra 130k after Waiting for over a month told him we couldn’t pay he said we should wait next shipment that’s today, today shipment dropped twinskenny said there’s no pro again... normally I’ll ask for refund but after waiting this long I’m just blank


Did i not warn u then? U dey argue with me sef. Trusted dealhunter indeed.
Una go dey let fake vouches decieve una.

Before buying from anyone check the moniker, once there is a questionable dispute run far away.

People should learn to carry out their due diligence before paying for TLC deals.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Sportwin(m): 9:06am On Jul 17, 2020
adecamp:
why you sef go do tlc for military man

Lol which guard room him go sleep now

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Surface11(m): 9:06am On Jul 17, 2020
adecamp:
why you sef go do tlc for military man
lmao. Our prayers are with him. Dragnet once used a phrase here "Tlc is like paying for a 2 weeks old pregnancy". don't be surprised when bobrisky is delivered to you instead of a Jim iyke. Or you end up with a transgendered while expecting John Sin. In the case of oga twinnie.. this na miscarriage grin

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by lekbel09(m): 9:11am On Jul 17, 2020
Surface11:
lmao. Our prayers are with him. Dragnet once used a phrase here "Tlc is like paying for a 2 weeks old pregnancy". don't be surprised when bobrisky is delivered to you instead of a Jim iyke. Or you end up with a transgendered while expecting John Sin. In the case of oga twinnie.. this na miscarriage grin
God forbid abortion , I expect to see a bouncing baby boy o grin. Honestly mehn the thing just tire me

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Safari24(m): 9:11am On Jul 17, 2020
From the information I gathered, from all the shipments that has landed, he is always having at least 19 phones, so my question is who does he give the phones to?
Another observation is that he keeps promising all of them to wait till next shipment arrives, and this has been the line, the dude keeps using to play with their minds.
The items he keeps promising will land soon, with all the complaints am seeing here, would eBay ship the items to the air to meet with the ones already in transit? undecided

If I've been following correctly, with all the shipment that has landed since June till now is shared amongst the people he is owing am sure we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Surface11(m): 9:12am On Jul 17, 2020
utips:
Why is twinskenny name not on the blacklist? I suggest all he’s items coming in be impounded, and a list of people he owes item should be known. @Lionlee216 you’ll be the one to help people out in ensuring he never gets he’s items until everyone he’s owning gets there package. This is a big fraudulent move, biggest ever in this dispute thread. When it happened to me I felt maybe because I’m not a regular here never knew it was he’s way of life. This is your last bus stop in such nonsense. You there using people’s hard earned money and sweat to build your scan empire. I don’t have any item with you but I’ve gotten my dose of your malicious and fraudulent ways. Let he’s name, moniker, account number and picture be uploaded on this dispute thread and also let it be pinned on technology section to create awareness.
why picture? Because he robbed them at gunpoint? undecided smh
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by themonk(m): 9:14am On Jul 17, 2020
You guys are just giving this guy zero interest loans to do business with.

He takes your money, orders phones, sells it for profit to someone else and then pays you back. Lol grin

Hopefully I am wrong sha, I wish he could render his own full account of what happened.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Saheed69(m): 9:14am On Jul 17, 2020
adecamp:
why you sef go do tlc for military man

Na prayer he need, make the military get patience like ẹyẹ àdàbà cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by themonk(m): 9:18am On Jul 17, 2020
tecnolad:
I'm currently in this boat too and I need help. I paid Oga Twinskenny ₦305,000 for a FU open box iPhone 11 pro since on 16th of June and all I'm getting are still stories.

My customer is a military person and he's been threatening me subtly. I trusted him and sent him money after getting 3 vouches when I asked if he was trusted.

I hoped to make a little profit from this, but all I get are threats that come as a joke from the military man I assured would be getting his phone this week.

I asked Twinskenny this morning and he said it won't be available this week anymore, but next week. When I told him about this thread, he said it won't be next week, that he has a shipment coming in in two weeks.

At this point, I know I'm being toyed with. Please come to my aid, everyone.

grin grin grin

Your matter strong o.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by dannybrasky(m): 9:40am On Jul 17, 2020
tecnolad:
I'm currently in this boat too and I need help. I paid Oga Twinskenny ₦305,000 for a FU open box iPhone 11 pro since on 16th of June and all I'm getting are still stories.

My customer is a military person and he's been threatening me subtly. I trusted him and sent him money after getting 3 vouches when I asked if he was trusted.

I hoped to make a little profit from this, but all I get are threats that come as a joke from the military man I assured would be getting his phone this week.

I asked Twinskenny this morning and he said it won't be available this week anymore, but next week. When I told him about this thread, he said it won't be next week, that he has a shipment coming in in two weeks.

At this point, I know I'm being toyed with. Please come to my aid, everyone.
Try locate the fraudster shop and Just dey warm your yansh up jejely,it is going to be a long walk to freedom,ask Mandela grin

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by suco01(m): 10:03am On Jul 17, 2020
LMAO. This will surely keep happening, the reason why I hate to see that word vouches and people will still think it's a good idea to deal with some deal hunters here after they know how the person in question operate and yet nothing has been done about it.

A deal hunters that don't have full details of the phone he is selling and you're buying it, no exact pictures of what you're buying, no Imei, using Paul money to get items for Peter, having 20 phones claiming he has over 100 phones and he end up posting every one of them, items will come not as described, taking additional 4k on each phones while other deal hunters from lionleee picker charge 2500. promising this week and later change to next week and at the end he won't deliver it. Is that one a reliable person to vouch for?

Why is it that it is those that unah dey vouch for up and down na them their matter dey always dey dispute thread sef.

This is not how this thread was started.
IF all of these are what he has been doing and yet he hasn't be flagged down on RED and yet you people will still vouch and keep shouting vouches up and down for him.. This is not the first time or second time he has been doing this and he will still continue to do it if we don't put a stop to it. Unless the big gunz here keep shielding him.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Donbigi2(m): 10:05am On Jul 17, 2020
. He ships over 20phones in each shipment I know we are supposed to get our things. But can can we give him benefit of doubt. I do buy from him, it's cheap and very clean. Tho time got delayed, I know he will come through.
Fingers crossed

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Alfred74: 10:12am On Jul 17, 2020
Donbigi2:
. He ships over 20phones in each shipment I know we are supposed to get our things. But can can we give him benefit of doubt. I do buy from him, it's cheap and very clean. Tho time got delayed, I know he will come through.
Fingers crossed
Will you keep quiet.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Sportwin(m): 10:12am On Jul 17, 2020
Why hasn't he addressed the matter directly
Get in contact with those who got from you
Explain to them
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Sportwin(m): 10:13am On Jul 17, 2020
Kreamie
The other guy you blacklisted no do reach like this oo

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Idboyostic(m): 10:18am On Jul 17, 2020
Sportwin:
Kreamie
The other guy you blacklisted no do reach like this oo
Bros, calm down na....at least the other guy was given 24-48hrs to fight his case and he lost....so, his name got written in red.

I believed there is being some sorts of underground talks going on to see if he can pull through but it's not up to 24-48hrs yet...so, calm down baba

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by suco01(m): 10:19am On Jul 17, 2020
Idboyostic:
I SAID THIS BEFORE THE LOCKDOWN IN MARCH, When Lordfedrick called out Twinskenny....now same thing is happening to multiples and most people are yet to come out and make a complain.

Hope this time around, Refund won't be an option....I can't withstand after investing my money for months and someone after using my money will tell me "SEND YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER"

Did anyone see the moniker that bought 11 Pro for 220k, it takes an experienced person to know what happened in such case. How much be 11 Pro for this lockdown again?

And like someone said in the previous page, this is like a ponzi scheme....why would Twinskenny keep saying he doesn't know how many of his items that was shipped everytime his clients asked. So, he doesn't get any update from his Shippers about the numbers of items shipped? He should know that this are people's money, some of them took loan, some of them worked for it, some other got it from friends and families....So, he should give a detailed explanation on all this biko.

His trick is to use their money for business cut off his gain and refund.. This isn't the first, second or third and won't be the last. Awoof dey purge belle be twinskenny deal.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by wildchild1: 10:22am On Jul 17, 2020
These allegations against Twinskenny are very heavy oooo, I spoke to him this morning though..will address the house shortly, I've been very busy in the last 48hrs and those that have been chatting with me on whatsapp will confirm my very slow response.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Chris525: 10:24am On Jul 17, 2020
Not to derail the thread but whats TLC & AIN??
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Babawale4real: 10:28am On Jul 17, 2020
Sportwin:
Kreamie
The other guy you blacklisted no do reach like this oo
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Sportwin(m): 10:29am On Jul 17, 2020
Chris525:
Not to derail the thread but whats TLC & AIN??

With TLC you totally loose control
Ain
You align with nature

Lol

Total landing cost
Already in Nigeria

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by yehmy(m): 10:29am On Jul 17, 2020
This is fraud and so painful some people are still giving him benefits of a doubt... By now he should be locked up in Agodi

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Idboyostic(m): 10:35am On Jul 17, 2020
yehmy:
This is fraud and so painful some people are still giving him benefits of a doubt... By now he should be locked up in Agodi
Even international Top criminals dem still dey give them benefits of doubt....even when he reach Station, them no go carry person go Kirikiri Straight na undecided

Everything get process!!!
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by iamsammybankz(m): 10:43am On Jul 17, 2020
It saddens my heart to see TLC total landing cost turning to Total landing wahala. sad
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Sportwin(m): 10:44am On Jul 17, 2020
iamsammybankz:
It saddens my heart to see TLC total landing cost turning to Total landing wahala. sad

Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by themonk(m): 10:54am On Jul 17, 2020
yehmy:
This is fraud and so painful some people are still giving him benefits of a doubt... By now he should be locked up in Agodi
Funny thing is you can’t lock him up or even arrest him because he didn’t chop anybody’s money. He defaulted on the unwritten ethics of deal hunting as regards to the platform he is using which is nairaland outside of that he has done nothing criminal.

It’s just bad business behavior with is morally wrong but not criminal. The only way to curb such behavior is creating a deterrent by banning people who do it or blacklisting them.

The only way you can make him legally liable is if you guys had a written contract and he defaulted then you can sue him or something but for now you can only hurt his business by denying him this platform not himself for bad business behavior.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by D4donnn: 11:07am On Jul 17, 2020
themonk:

Funny thing is you can’t lock him up or even arrest him because he didn’t chop anybody’s money. He defaulted on the unwritten ethics of deal hunting as regards to the platform he is using which is nairaland outside of that he has done nothing criminal.

It’s just bad business behavior with is morally wrong but not criminal. The only way to curb such behavior is creating a deterrent by banning people who do it or blacklisting them.

The only way you can make him legally liable is if you guys had a written contract and he defaulted then you can sue him or something but for now you can only hurt his business by denying him this platform not himself for bad business behavior.

No offense bro but you need to read a little more or broader , what do you think is consideration for a contract to be deemed valid . And what do you think is the meaning of obtaining by false pretense or misrepresentation . The first is a criminal offense while the second is a civil wrong , depends on how a smart lawyer argue it .
And your WhatsApp chat history can be deemed as valid proof that consideration was furnished by either party , and your exchanges will de deemed as the terms of the contract
Mind you he also provided approximate date of arrival for most items.
The truth is it'll be quite difficult to argue its a criminal offense in most cases but if it's established that the items arrived and he redirected and furnished wrong information then he most definitely has breeched the terms of the contract . Note it's not all contract that must be written and even electronic correspondence can still qualify as a valid contract especially after a party furnished consideration in this case ( payment ) then damage or restitution must be sought .

Because most persons are quiet doesn't mean we no know law. And because we keep calm no mean say we no know the effect a military personnel can go to remedy our situation . But distance and other factors will limit any possible actions people will like to take.

Let me just relax Because he said mine is available , it will be easy for you to say Sha you no wait for more than 6 weeks .

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by Temihatz(m): 11:18am On Jul 17, 2020
yehmy:
This is fraud and so painful some people are still giving him benefits of a doubt... By now he should be locked up in Agodi

No now, that's why the thread was created. The judge will listen to both parties (plaintiff and defendant) before judgement is made.

He will eventually pull through but the timing is completely wrong which he should work on.

If name tagging can be ascribed to each items as they are landing in Lionlee's address, it will go a long way to curb any doubts.

Once shipping list is released, we will see what each person have and not until when item gets to Nigeria before we hear some were not shipped.

For clarity, this is not dragging or bringing someone down, but this should be regarded as a check to deliver better services.

If my suggestion is adopted or a better one, then I can still patronize him. But if we are still left in the dark and considered as business as usual then it is better for me to die untop offerup.

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Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by themonk(m): 11:38am On Jul 17, 2020
D4donnn:


No offense bro but you need to read a little more or broader , what do you think is consideration for a contract to be deemed valid . And what do you think is the meaning of obtaining by false pretense or misrepresentation . The first is a criminal offense while the second is a civil wrong , depends on how a smart lawyer argue it .
And your WhatsApp chat history can be deemed as valid proof that consideration was furnished by either party , and your exchanges will de deemed as the terms of the contract
Mind you he also provided approximate date of arrival for most items.
The truth is it'll be quite difficult to argue its a criminal offense in most cases but if it's established that the items arrived and he redirected and furnished wrong information then he most definitely has breeched the terms of the contract . Note it's not all contract that must be written and even electronic correspondence can still qualify as a valid contract especially after a party furnished consideration in this case ( payment ) then damage or restitution must be sought .

Because most persons are quiet doesn't mean we no know law. And because we keep calm no mean say we no know the effect a military personnel can go to remedy our situation . But distance and other factors will limit any possible actions people will like to take.

Let me just relax Because he said mine is available , it will be easy for you to say Sha you no wait for more than 6 weeks .
Businesses with unwritten contracts are deemed very flexible in court and believe me the court is very very linient when it comes to things like this infact even when contracts are written violating them most times do not lead to criminal charges, it leads to fines.

It will be hard for you to press criminal charges on someone because they didn’t deliver on a business deal at the time you guys decided, Nobody is going to jail a business man for not supplying X amount of cements in T amount of time even when it is in a contract, all they can do is give him a fine to pay.

If however you have the IMEI of the phone or any unique identifier and you can prove he sold it to someone else while this could lead to criminal charges his defense would be that he made a mistake, that he buys and sells a lot of phones and maybe mistakenly sold it to someone else which you cannot disprove. Then the court will ask him to return your money with or without a fine. The problem with this is that if someone owes you and you take it to court, the court depending on how competent will ask the person to provide an monthly income statement(which he will obviously write an amount lower that what he makes) the court will then ask him how much he spend on feeding, transport, family etc(which the person will now inflate) they will subtract everything then the amount that remains will be what will be paid to you monthly.

What I’m basically saying is that all they can do is fine him and it will even be in a civil court not a criminal court and he will have to pay the money over time. Where it become criminal is if he says you didn’t give him money or runs away.

It’s unfortunate but that is the truth. The reason we don’t know these things in Nigeria is because any small thing someone will go and call army or police to arrest the person which is illegal. This guy is obviously doing something that is a bad business behavior and the only way you can hit him hard is to demarketize his business by calling him out like people have done here.
Re: Dispute Resolution Thread [For Pickup/Deal Hunting & Other Issues Alike] by D4donnn: 11:49am On Jul 17, 2020
themonk:

Businesses with unwritten contracts are deemed very flexible in court and believe me the court is very very linient when it comes to things like this infact even when contracts are written violating them most times do not lead to criminal charges, it leads to fines.

It will be hard for you to press criminal charges on someone because they didn’t deliver on a business deal at the time you guys decided, Nobody is going to jail a business man for not supplying X amount of cements in T amount of time even when it is in a contract, all they can do is give him a fine to pay.

If however you have the IMEI of the phone or any unique identifier and you can prove he sold it to someone else while this could lead to criminal charges his defense would be that he made a mistake, that he buys and sells a lot of phones and maybe mistakenly sold it to someone else which you cannot disprove. Then the court will ask him to return your money with or without a fine. The problem with this is that if someone owes you and you take it to court, the court depending on how competent will ask the person to provide an monthly income statement(which he will obviously write an amount lower that what he makes) the court will then ask him how much he spend on feeding, transport, family etc(which the person will now inflate) they will subtract everything then the amount that remains will be what will be paid to you monthly.

What I’m basically saying is that all they can do is fine him and it will even be in a civil court not a criminal court and he will have to pay the money over time. Where it become criminal is if he says you didn’t give him money or runs away.

It’s unfortunate but that is the truth. The reason we don’t know these things in Nigeria is because any small thing someone will go and call army or police to arrest the person which is illegal. This guy is obviously doing something that is a bad business behavior and the only way you can hit him hard is to demarketize his business by calling him out like people have done here.


You're right Sha , that's the harsh reality of it , anyways I'm hopeful he comes through with his words , because I've already contacted the person who paid for it and he has already listed it on sale . And his buyers are requesting for pictures , he already has someone on standby waiting to go get the item , I'm just praying all goes well

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