Kobojunkie:
I felt the need to add that too since you pointed to the selling of their property earlier suggesting it was related to tithing which is defined in the Old Covenant.

They were not the only ones selling their lands, so your need to bring it up is what I don't understand.

Nooil:
They were not the only ones selling their lands, so you need to bring it up is what I don't understand.

Before anyone comes by to suggest they died because of some tithing related curse or from refusing to pay their tithe..

nnamdi640:
Does baba pay his own tithe,if yes,then to who and who spend the money.

Just to let you know, he pays tithe to rccg. Even the church pays tithe too

Oyedepo lied on this. People are wiser now, Oyedepo! Giving should be voluntary and not forced. You guys have done away with old testament laws like Sabbat day stuff, women not mounting the pulpit , menstruation stuff, not to eat pork, beards issues etc. But you refused to give up tithing cos it is money spinner.

Besides, it was a statement to the levites not a general commandments.

Muslims dont pay tithes to imams. They give voluntarily and they are about the most prosperous people on Earth.

I rather give to the poor than pay tithes to Oyedepo or any Pastor.

I fell for it wen i was younger but now i understand better

Kobojunkie:


Actually, according to Old Covenant for the first 2 years, you can use your tithe to buy alcohol... so year, the bars should get a piece of the action that belongs to them if you are truly paying tithe and reaping God's blessing.

Read the Bible and open your eyes. By your claim you are calling God a liar.

Is it in the Bible I read. don't just say nonsense

Kenoboh:
Oyedepo lied on this. People are wiser now, Oyedepo! Giving should be voluntary and not forced. You guys have done away with old testament laws like Sabbat day stuff, women not mounting the pulpit , menstruation stuff, not to eat pork, beards issues etc. But you refused to give up tithing cos it is money spinner.

Besides, it was a statement to the levites not a general commandments.

Muslims dont pay tithes to imams. They give voluntarily and they are about the most prosperous people on Earth.

I rather give to the poor than pay tithes to Oyedepo or any Pastor.

I fell for it when I was younger but now i understand better

@ Nooil, do you remember the curse that Jesus Pronounced? Do you see how you are guilty of the same? By choosing to keep tithing but then ignoring the other 612 statutes of the old testament, you have invited curses upon your life there.
The law (both old and new) is all or nothing. Meaning whichever one you choose, you have to obey all the associated commandments or you are no better than one who does not follow any law at all.

ComeToJesus:


I'm helping you to locate the choices available to you. It's good you have chosen red wine. Enjoy your wine in peace and let us that pay our tithes and happily be the mugu in peace. It's not too much to ask for...

God will continue to bless you

delkuf:
Is it in the Bible I read. don't just say nonsense

What nonsense? It is there

This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV
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22 Every year you must be sure to save one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that grow in your fields.
23 Then you must go to the place the Lord chooses to be the home for his name. You will go there to be with the Lord your God.
At that place you will eat the tenth(tithe) of your crops; one-tenth of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first animals born
in your herds and flocks. In this way you will always remember to respect the Lord your God.
24 But that place might be too far for you to travel to. Maybe you will not be able to carry one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that the
Lord has blessed you with. If that happens,
25 sell that part of your crops and take the money with you to the special place the Lord has chosen.
26 Use the money to buy anything you want; cattle, sheep, wine or beer or any other food Then
you and your family should eat and enjoy yourselves there in that place with the Lord your God..
27 But don't forget the Levites living in your town. Share your food with them because they don't have a share of the land like you
have.
28 At the end of every three years, you must gather one-tenth of your harvest for that year. Store this food in your towns.
29 Keep this food for the Levites, because they don't have any land of their own. Also keep this food for the foreigners, orphans, and
widows who live in your towns. This will provide enough for them to come and eat all they want. If you do this, the Lord your God
will bless you in everything you do.

Andrew13:
this man is always in the news for the wrong reasons.

I know people who have been paying tithe for years now. Guess whatttt.......they are still stagnant

''Bishop Oyedepo: If You Don’t Pay Your Tithe You Are Under A Financial Curse".....he should tell this to the Chinese man that made the microphone he is using to talk trash


Religion is Africa no 1 problem

Tithing works for me!!! God has proven Himself Mighty in my Life. Even if I mistakenly use my tithe for something else, I must repay the tithe (backlog) once I get another money. I can't even sleep well when I don't pay my tithe!! I'm not supposed to tell you this but I still owe God 3,000. I'll pay it when my next money comes. For your information, I'm a school teacher!!

THUNDER4real:
You said you needed an explanation, that last part, I believe it should be done as led by the Spirit of God. Also there's no curse attached to tithing. If there is, we won't have Bill gates etc. Bill gates etc are even doing what Jesus mentioned on giving. You will be surprise God recognize these people than people that pay monthly tithe. If not philanthropist, Africa would have been hell. Malaria, Hiv etc drugs will go for the rich only.

Read this interview with Bill Gates and ask yourself if he is really an atheist

https://relevantmagazine.com/current/bill-gates-discusses-god-church-charity-and-faith/

IamgratefulLord:

Tithing works for me!!! God has proven Himself Mighty in my Life. Even if I mistakenly use my tithe for something else, I must repay the tithe (backlog) once I get another money. I can't even sleep well when I don't pay my tithe!! I'm not supposed to tell you this but I still owe God 3,000. I'll pay it when my next money comes. For your information, I'm a school teacher!!

You are a liar because the Tithing you practise is not the tithing that God commanded.
This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV
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22 Every year you must be sure to save one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that grow in your fields.
23 Then you must go to the place the Lord chooses to be the home for his name. You will go there to be with the Lord your God.
At that place you will eat the tenth(tithe) of your crops; one-tenth of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first animals born
in your herds and flocks. In this way you will always remember to respect the Lord your God.
24 But that place might be too far for you to travel to. Maybe you will not be able to carry one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that the
Lord has blessed you with. If that happens,
25 sell that part of your crops and take the money with you to the special place the Lord has chosen.
26 Use the money to buy anything you want; cattle, sheep, wine or beer or any other food Then
you and your family should eat and enjoy yourselves there in that place with the Lord your God..
27 But don't forget the Levites living in your town. Share your food with them because they don't have a share of the land like you
have.
28 At the end of every three years, you must gather one-tenth of your harvest for that year. Store this food in your towns.
29 Keep this food for the Levites, because they don't have any land of their own. Also keep this food for the foreigners, orphans, and
widows who live in your towns. This will provide enough for them to come and eat all they want. If you do this, the Lord your God
will bless you in everything you do.

And now that you know the truth about tithing, if you choose to continue, you continue at your own risk and your pastor will be no where to save you.

Amotolongbo:
It seems some people’s minds have been opened by the effects of the COVID19. They got to realize that many things being preached in church aren’t real, and understand that nothing will happen if one stays at home on Sunday.

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Two classes of fools that are irredeemably incurable:
1. A woman in love
2. A Nigerian under the influence of a pastor.

You that is running to give your money to a pastor instead of helping your neighbours: Imagine if those that did giveaways and palliatives chose to give the money to a criminal like Oyedepo. Why do Nigerians equate financial success to divine favour? If that's the case, then Hushpuppi is God's chosen son for the successful heist.

Only morons would pay tithe to a non-Levite and worse, a self-anointed scammer and a fictitious miracle peddler at that.

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Kobojunkie:

@ Nooil, do you remember the curse that Jesus Pronounced? Do you see how you are guilty of the same? By choosing to keep tithing but then ignoring the other 612 statutes of the old testament, you have invited curses upon your life there.
The law (both old and new) is all or nothing. Meaning whichever one you choose, you have to obey all the associated commandments or you are no better than one who does not follow any law at all.

You're the one who has invited curses upon your life not me in Jesus name. Amen

Matthew 23:23 is so clear. Never did Jesus mention any 612 statues in that verse. He was clear on tithing. Don't ever write on curses and mention me again. There are things I do not let slide.

Nooil:

You're the one who has invited curses upon your life not me in Jesus name. Amen

Matthew 23:23 is so clear. Never did Jesus mention any 612 statues in that verse. He was clear on tithing. Don't ever talk of curses and mention me again. There are things I do not let slide.

Jesus never defined tithing as a part of the new Covenant; Tithing formulae is entrenched in the old Covenant.
I am sorry but you see, the Tithing law is defined in the Old Covenant as I have said several times before now. There are a total of 613 statutes altogether. If you choose to focus on nothing and not the other 612, you are incurring God's curses.

This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
22 Every year you must be sure to save one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that grow in your fields.
23 Then you must go to the place the Lord chooses to be the home for his name. You will go there to be with the Lord your God.
At that place you will eat the tenth(tithe) of your crops; one-tenth of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first animals born
in your herds and flocks. In this way you will always remember to respect the Lord your God.
24 But that place might be too far for you to travel to. Maybe you will not be able to carry one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that the
Lord has blessed you with. If that happens,
25 sell that part of your crops and take the money with you to the special place the Lord has chosen.
26 Use the money to buy anything you want; cattle, sheep, wine or beer or any other food Then
you and your family should eat and enjoy yourselves there in that place with the Lord your God..
27 But don't forget the Levites living in your town. Share your food with them because they don't have a share of the land like you
have.
28 At the end of every three years, you must gather one-tenth of your harvest for that year. Store this food in your towns.
29 Keep this food for the Levites, because they don't have any land of their own. Also keep this food for the foreigners, orphans, and
widows who live in your towns. This will provide enough for them to come and eat all they want. If you do this, the Lord your God
will bless you in everything you do.

Also, if you tithe any differently from what God specified in the Old Covenant, you also incur God's curse.

Kobojunkie:
You are a liar because the Tithing you practise is not the tithing that God commanded.
This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

How can you call me a liar?? I don't want to argue with you. Tithe works for me period!! I pay my tithe to my church and God's blessings follows. Malachi 3: 10. No man can rob God!

Commonsense99:

This is emotional blackmail., It doesn't work that way people are waking up.
Western Europe did not develope with this mentality, China who borrows money to the whole world does not go to church, the richest Arabs don't pay tithe, they are even moslems, Dangote does not pay tithe, the world's richest men do not pay tithe, most are even atheist, all these people are not under financial curse.

Reality is you are under financial curse if you don't have any occupation or Productive

And fraudsters under financial curse? What about thieves? Are these two occupations and jobs?

Nooil:



Read this interview with Bill Gates and ask yourself if he is really an atheist

https://relevantmagazine.com/current/bill-gates-discusses-god-church-charity-and-faith/

Stop twisting this topic, did I attach Bill Gate to any religion or afinity. I just sighted him and his co as philanthropist that do good to the world instead of shouting and making noise with tithing.

Nooil:


They were not the only ones selling their lands, so you need to bring it up is what I don't understand.

Stop trying to mix up the Bible again, you brought up the selling of land as we talked about tithes and you were corrected that both weren't related (Ananias and Saphira).
Others may have sold theirs too but didn't lie to the spirit of God. Some might have brought 1% or 100% of the proceeds but didn't lie.

ComeToJesus:


I don't have the luxury of time to masticate and exegit the scripture so that it can be digested at your level. In two days, I'll be able to spare you ample time to liberate your mind from private interpretations of the scripture that has ruthlessly held you hostage. Till then..

Am interested

The scriptures is not novel or other secular literatures. It is a spiritual book for Christians and cannot be understood by unspiritual people, for those writtings are spiritually inclined.
Tithing is not a law but a lifestyle of anyone that believes in the God of Abraham for prosperity (not only money) because Tithing existed before and after the law. GENESIS 14vs20
Mechanics don't teach a doctor on how to discharge his duties.
I beg nairalinders, please when you read the scriptures even as one looking forward to be born again, pray in your spirit that God your creator speaks to you not man, then you will be convinced about words in the scriptures.
Don't try to make jest of God's word because you don't like the carrier. Don't forget life is a choice.

I drop my cursor here.
Thanks ,

IamgratefulLord:
How can you call me a liar?? I don't want to argue with you. Tithe works for me period!! I pay my tithe to my church and God's blessings follows. Malachi 3: 10. No man can rob God!

You are a liar because the tithe-formulae you claim to serve has nothing to do with God. God is not a liar.. you are!
This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
22 Every year you must be sure to save one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that grow in your fields.
23 Then you must go to the place the Lord chooses to be the home for his name. You will go there to be with the Lord your God.
At that place you will eat the tenth(tithe) of your crops; one-tenth of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first animals born
in your herds and flocks. In this way you will always remember to respect the Lord your God.
24 But that place might be too far for you to travel to. Maybe you will not be able to carry one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that the
Lord has blessed you with. If that happens,
25 sell that part of your crops and take the money with you to the special place the Lord has chosen.
26 Use the money to buy anything you want; cattle, sheep, wine or beer or any other food Then
you and your family should eat and enjoy yourselves there in that place with the Lord your God..
27 But don't forget the Levites living in your town. Share your food with them because they don't have a share of the land like you
have.
28 At the end of every three years, you must gather one-tenth of your harvest for that year. Store this food in your towns.
29 Keep this food for the Levites, because they don't have any land of their own. Also keep this food for the foreigners, orphans, and
widows who live in your towns. This will provide enough for them to come and eat all they want. If you do this, the Lord your God
will bless you in everything you do.

Kobojunkie:
Before anyone comes by to suggest they died because of some tithing related curse or from refusing to pay their tithe..

Exactly.

IamgratefulLord:

How can you call me a liar?? I don't want to argue with you. Tithe works for me period!! I pay my tithe to my church and God's blessings follows. Malachi 3: 10. No man can rob God!

Actually the tithing you practice is not how it is written. Are you suppose to pay to a levite base on the old testament your quoting or a pastor? Malachi your quoting is referring to the jewish synagogue and the tithing is for a reason..Deu 26 : 12

Area4Area:
Stop trying to mix up the Bible again, you brought up the selling of land as we talked about tithes and you were corrected that both weren't related (Ananias and Saphira).
Others may have sold theirs too but didn't lie to the spirit of God. Some might have brought 1% or 100% of the proceeds but didn't lie.

Lack of understanding is what is plaguing most of you, but unfortunately, I don't have the patience to explain words that are clear.

Kobojunkie:


Gentiles do not qualify to tithe under the old Covenant, period!

Moses's own son did not make the list of those who were required to pay or recieve tithe and He was born to a Levite father

Did you hear what that told you. I want you to be ready in two days so you can discuss with him.

IamgratefulLord:

Tithing works for me!!! God has proven Himself Mighty in my Life. Even if I mistakenly use my tithe for something else, I must repay the tithe (backlog) once I get another money. I can't even sleep well when I don't pay my tithe!! I'm not supposed to tell you this but I still owe God 3,000. I'll pay it when my next money comes. For your information, I'm a school teacher!!

Nobody is interested in your life history, all we are saying is that pastors should twisting the word of God, follow the old mosaic law 100% and obey all laws therein OR follow the new one which Jesus Christ came for and follow it 100%. Stop mixing both.

Commonsense99:

This is emotional blackmail., It doesn't work that way people are waking up.
Western Europe did not develope with this mentality, China who borrows money to the whole world does not go to church, the richest Arabs don't pay tithe, they are even moslems, Dangote does not pay tithe, the world's richest men do not pay tithe, most are even atheist, all these people are not under financial curse.

Reality is you are under financial curse if you don't have any occupation or Productive

please , if they pay or do more than that, will they tell you. People do things and may not tell you what they engage in

THUNDER4real:
Stop twisting this topic, did I attach Bill Gate to any religion or afinity. I just sighted him and his co as philanthropist that do good to the world instead of shouting and making noise with tithing.

I thought you are against pastors threatening people with tithing. Bill Gates is not a pastor na. It's a pastor that is shouting and making noise, not the members.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus never defined tithing as a part of the new Covenant; Tithing formulae is entrenched in the old Covenant.
I am sorry but you see, the Tithing law is defined in the Old Covenant as I have said several times before now. There are a total of 613 statutes altogether. If you choose to focus on nothing and not the other 612, you are incurring God's curses.

This is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you.

Also, if you tithe any differently from what God specified in the Old Covenant, you also incur God's curse.

Abraham paid tithe even before Moses was born. Tithing has always stood on a separate ground. Again, you're the one incurring curses, not me.

delkuf:
Did you hear what that told you. I want you to be ready in two days so you can discuss with him.

Who told me what?

Nooil:



I thought you are against pastors threatening people with tithing. Bill Gates is not a pastor na. It's a pastor that is shouting and making noise, not the members.

Do you read before you comment? I mentioned Bill gates as an example of a philanthropist who is more concerned with giving to the needy than tithing.

Kobojunkie:
I don't pay tithe.... since I became Born again in 2017, i have never had to pay tithe. And God takes care of me the way defined in Matthew 6 when you seek first the Kingdom of God.

The Spirit of God is strict on the demarcation between Old wine and New wine.

As Area4Area noted, each Covenant - Old and New - are all or nothing. You can't pick and choose what you want to obey and you can't have one foot in one and another foot in the other

How did you became born again if I may ask