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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by peacefull(f): 1:16pm On Jun 10, 2020
Svelte98:
LOL!! We'll talk in the mail.

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 11:36pm On Jul 06, 2020
blackbriar:


The best way to learn Japanese is by going to a Japanese language school, unfortunately there are none in Nigeria.
Japanese is not a language you can learn on your own as a beginner. you need to go through beginners and intermediate class to be able to continue learning it on your own.
for the grammar been totally opposite of English structure in application and meaning to writing in 3 alphabetical systems; katakana, hiragana and alight kanji. Your biggest concern though should speaking not writing.

So, if you read through this thread from the beginning, some people opt to go japanese language schools in japan for studies and look for a job after finishing the language school. you can try this route, but the cost is almost the same as going to a graduate school in Japanese national university for 2 years research masters program , where also japanese language is taught for free.

my 2 cents.
Good morning bro, please i want to know the total amount one should budget for a master's program in Japan for the two years duration and also if the schools over there offer post graduate diploma program for those who want to venture into another area of study different from his/her bsc course of study.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 1:54am On Jul 07, 2020
aguizm:

Good morning bro, please i want to know the total amount one should budget for a master's program in Japan for the two years duration and also if the schools over there offer post graduate diploma program for those who want to venture into another area of study different from his/her bsc course of study.

This question has been answered repeatedly on this thread..try to read it.
Japanese national Universities are relatively affordable (550,00yen per annum) times 3.02 to Naira.
as a student , you are eliglble to do part time work,
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 5:56pm On Jul 07, 2020
blackbriar:


This question has been answered repeatedly on this thread..try to read it.
Japanese national Universities are relatively affordable (550,00yen per annum) times 3.02 to Naira.
as a student , you are eliglble to do part time work,

Thanks bro.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by ENGRPETER101: 6:50pm On Jul 07, 2020
Please brothers, can change it visit visa to work permit in Japan
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jul 07, 2020
ENGRPETER101:
Please brothers, can change it visit visa to work permit in Japan

No. It's illegal and you will be caught, imprisoned and deported. No questions would be asked.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by ENGRPETER101: 7:36pm On Jul 07, 2020
So going there With tourist is not advisable, visa free passport for 90days
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jul 07, 2020
ENGRPETER101:
So going there With tourist is not advisable, visa free passport for 90days

Well, maybe you possess the passport of a country that is offered visa free travel for 90 days to Japan or citizen of a country that has a visa waiver with Japan. If so, then it's possible.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by MERCHANDISER: 12:35am On Jul 09, 2020
blackbriar:


The best way to learn Japanese is by going to a Japanese language school, unfortunately there are none in Nigeria.
Japanese is not a language you can learn on your own as a beginner. you need to go through beginners and intermediate class to be able to continue learning it on your own.
for the grammar been totally opposite of English structure in application and meaning to writing in 3 alphabetical systems; katakana, hiragana and alight kanji. Your biggest concern though should speaking not writing.

So, if you read through this thread from the beginning, some people opt to go japanese language schools in japan for studies and look for a job after finishing the language school. you can try this route, but the cost is almost the same as going to a graduate school in Japanese national university for 2 years research masters program , where also japanese language is taught for free.

my 2 cents.
Which Japanese School can i study Animal science for my masters program
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 2:20am On Jul 09, 2020
MERCHANDISER:
Which Japanese School can i study Animal science for my masters program
Obihiro University of Agriculture and verterinary medicine
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 1:46am On Jul 10, 2020
blackbriar please i need your input to this.
Osaka University replied my mail stating that i need a Japanese language proficiency of N1 to be eligible for a master's program in Economics with them. Please bro, can you recommend any other national University where such is not a requirement. I also need a school which is not situated in the big cities of Japan where cost of living is very okay.

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 1:13pm On Jul 10, 2020
aguizm:
blackbriar please i need your input to this.
Osaka University replied my mail stating that i need a Japanese language proficiency of N1 to be eligible for a master's program in Economics with them. Please bro, can you recommend any other national University where such is not a requirement. I also need a school which is not situated in the big cities of Japan where cost of living is very okay.

Cost of living is the same everywhere in Japan, Living in a big city gives you the opportunity to get part time job quickly.

Is Osaka university a national university ?
International University of Japan is a good University but in a proper wilderness, there is no chance of part time job there. So look for national universities in cities.

Kyoto University.
Hokkadio University.
Niigata University.
Yokohama National Univeristy
Doshisha University
Ritsumeikan University

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by majisuka(m): 1:42pm On Jul 10, 2020
MERCHANDISER:
Which Japanese School can i study Animal science for my masters program

Hokkaido University, their agriculture program is perhaps by far the best in the country. But some provincial national universities have decent animal science/husbandry departments (for example Shizuoka University).

aguizm:
blackbriar please i need your input to this.
Osaka University replied my mail stating that i need a Japanese language proficiency of N1 to be eligible for a master's program in Economics with them. Please bro, can you recommend any other national University where such is not a requirement. I also need a school which is not situated in the big cities of Japan where cost of living is very okay.

Aside from access to part time jobs (if you can't get scholarships), big cities also offer some suburbs with surprisingly low housing cost, which is often just one or two relatively short train ride away from the campus. Let's say, if you study in Waseda University in Tokyo (I think its economic and policy departments don't require Japanese language proficiency, got some friends studied there), you can live in southern part of Saitama bordering Tokyo or Kita-Senju. The downside is that some landlords don't welcome foreigners (or non-Japanese speaking) tenants, although it's not always the case. You may also check out share houses for students or university dorm, which can also really cheap (by Kanto area standard) albeit with expense of privacy for the former.

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 2:03pm On Jul 10, 2020
blackbriar:


Cost of living is the same everywhere in Japan, Living in a big city gives you the opportunity to get part time job quickly.

Is Osaka university a national university ?
International University of Japan is a good University but in a proper wilderness, there is no chance of part time job there. So look for national universities in cities.

Kyoto University.
Hokkadio University.
Niigata University.
Yokohama National Univeristy
Doshisha University
Ritsumeikan University

Thanks alot bro for your help. I will look into all these schools you recommended. Please no vex for this new question, from a research i did online, i noticed that monthly expenses (rent,feeding,text books,internet e.t.c) of an international student ranges between ¥90,000-130,000. Can one offset all these bills with the part time jobs?
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 2:11pm On Jul 10, 2020
majisuka:



Aside from access to part time jobs (if you can't get scholarships), big cities also offer some suburbs with surprisingly low housing cost, which is often just one or two relatively short train ride away from the campus. Let's say, if you study in Waseda University in Tokyo (I think its economic and policy departments don't require Japanese language proficiency, got some friends studied there), you can live in southern part of Saitama bordering Tokyo or Kita-Senju. The downside is that some landlords don't welcome foreigners (or non-Japanese speaking) tenants, although it's not always the case. You may also check out share houses for students, which can also really cheap (by Kanto area standard) albeit with expense of privacy.

Thanks alot, i appreciate.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 2:47pm On Jul 10, 2020
aguizm:


Thanks alot bro for your help. I will look into all these schools you recommended. Please no vex for this new question, from a research i did online, i noticed that monthly expenses (rent,feeding,text books,internet e.t.c) of an international student ranges between ¥90,000-130,000. Can one offset all these bills with the part time jobs?

Yes you can
The most expensive of those bills is house rent which ranges from 40-60,000¥ monthly. Excluding water , electricity and gas bills but if you get school dormitory all the expenses are as low as 15-30,000¥ monthly.
So it’s necessary you get a dormitory
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by aguizm(m): 5:05pm On Jul 10, 2020
blackbriar:


Yes you can
The most expensive of those bills is house rent which ranges from 40-60,000¥ monthly. Excluding water , electricity and gas bills but if you get school dormitory all the expenses are as low as 15-30,000¥ monthly.
So it’s necessary you get a dormitory

Thanks for this info. I appreciate.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by JustEdward(m): 1:05am On Jul 11, 2020
Japan is a beautiful country

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 4:39am On Jul 15, 2020
Shinjuku; busiest train station in the world....looking all quiet
O ye covid-19.

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by blackbriar: 6:41am On Jul 18, 2020

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Paulson91: 10:56am On Jul 19, 2020
How much can one come up with to migrate to Japan as an International student to study Masters of Business management!
It will end in Praise famz...
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by peacefull(f): 4:05am On Jul 21, 2020
smiley

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by majisuka(m): 12:04pm On Jul 21, 2020
peacefull:
smiley

Earning 300k by working part-time job??!! WTF shocked shocked
Not even highest-paid entry-level professional jobs in best Japanese companies earn that much shocked

In all seriousness, the government of Japan should invest more on handing out more merit-based scholarships in legit universities to attract more brilliant talents. They also need to reform their archaic graduate-level higher education system to akin to that of Western counterparts, i.e. paying PhD candidates and giving more funding to labs with more international students and professors with global research experiences in other technologically-advanced countries. Recently, instead of enacting sensible reforms they are shooting themselves at their feet, the worst of them is abolishing and stopping almost all government-sponsored scholarships for international students. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, aside from turning away talents, the graduate students are becoming less and less productive because they have to split their attention to part-time jobs. Instead of attracting top talents, vast majority of the international students here are language school students who spend most of their times in unproductive jobs.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Nobody: 9:22pm On Jul 21, 2020
majisuka:


Earning 300k by working part-time job??!! WTF shocked shocked
Not even highest-paid entry-level professional jobs in best Japanese companies earn that much shocked

In all seriousness, the government of Japan should invest more on handing out more merit-based scholarships in legit universities to attract more brilliant talents. They also need to reform their archaic graduate-level higher education system to akin to that of Western counterparts, i.e. paying PhD candidates and giving more funding to labs with more international students and professors with global research experiences in other technologically-advanced countries. Recently, instead of enacting sensible reforms they are shooting themselves at their feet, the worst of them is abolishing and stopping almost all government-sponsored scholarships for international students. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, aside from turning away talents, the graduate students are becoming less and less productive because they have to split their attention to part-time jobs. Instead of attracting top talents, vast majority of the international students here are language school students who spend most of their times in unproductive jobs.

You're right... I've checked salaries in Japanese companies and boy! They are low say compared to Germany or the UK - countries with similar size of economies. Don't you think these reductions have to do with the debt level of the country? Although, the US has a higher debt level but the way her universities are structured differs significantly from other countries even in the EU. Another reason could be developed Asian countries' antipathy towards foreign talents in higher education. Singapore is the exception here because of the benefits she accords to foreign scholars.

This book explains why American higher institutions are successful at attracting foreign talents and amass huge endowments: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674244230/?coliid=I1NNI8VHRIRQIG&colid=17FSMSCV4I4LB&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by majisuka(m): 3:09am On Jul 22, 2020
NaotoKan:


You're right... I've checked salaries in Japanese companies and boy! They are low say compared to Germany or the UK - countries with similar size of economies. Don't you think these reductions have to do with the debt level of the country? Although, the US has a higher debt level but the way her universities are structured differs significantly from other countries even in the EU.

I think it's due to combinations of a lot of factors. Housing cost in Japan (even in and around Tokyo) is cheaper than almost all other major cities in developed world. Perhaps it's the only megacity that isn't experiencing housing crisis, there are more apartment rooms and houses than what it's needed. Moreover, most fresh graduates live with their parents and don't spend that much of money, not to mention transportation and other costs. Unlike in the West especially the US, the fresh graduates aren't burdened by huge student loan (I know a few Japanese who received student loan when they studied in university but it is easy to pay it back in a few years). Despite the low wage, average employees receive relatively large bonuses and various benefits too. Last but not least, corporate taxes in Japan are also higher than most of the world, keeping the companies to spend fewer for wages per employee compared to their contemporaries in the West.

But still, earning 300k yen by just doing menial chores is super outrageous it isn't even funny lipsrsealed

NaotoKan:

Another reason could be developed Asian countries' antipathy towards foreign talents in higher education. Singapore is the exception here because of the benefits she accords to foreign scholars.

It still doesn't even remotely justify why they need to take such drastic measure. Not even the likes of both Chinas (Mainland and Taiwan) and South Korea would ever go as much as abolishing the entire scholarships just to keep their populace happy and 'pure'.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by peacefull(f): 3:21am On Jul 22, 2020
majisuka:


Earning 300k by working part-time job??!! WTF shocked shocked
Not even highest-paid entry-level professional jobs in best Japanese companies earn that much shocked

In all seriousness, the government of Japan should invest more on handing out more merit-based scholarships in legit universities to attract more brilliant talents. They also need to reform their archaic graduate-level higher education system to akin to that of Western counterparts, i.e. paying PhD candidates and giving more funding to labs with more international students and professors with global research experiences in other technologically-advanced countries. Recently, instead of enacting sensible reforms they are shooting themselves at their feet, the worst of them is abolishing and stopping almost all government-sponsored scholarships for international students. If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, aside from turning away talents, the graduate students are becoming less and less productive because they have to split their attention to part-time jobs. Instead of attracting top talents, vast majority of the international students here are language school students who spend most of their times in unproductive jobs.


embarassed
Are you an international student?
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by majisuka(m): 3:24am On Jul 22, 2020
peacefull:



embarassed
Are you an international student?


Yes I am. Been almost 4 years in Japan so far.

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by peacefull(f): 4:00am On Jul 22, 2020
majisuka:


Yes I am. Been almost 4 years in Japan so far.

Wow!!
I hope you are enjoying life in Japan smiley

About government scholarship, I hope you know what many Japanese students also face the problem.

Sorry, your English is difficult to me.
I maybe still not understand well what you said embarassed
I will read again and I wanna understand well.

Thank you for telling me your opinion.
I appreciate you!
I like to hear what foreigners think about Japan and Japanese.
I can learn many things!

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Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by peacefull(f): 4:30am On Jul 22, 2020
NaotoKan:


You're right... I've checked salaries in Japanese companies and boy! They are low say compared to Germany or the UK - countries with similar size of economies. Don't you think these reductions have to do with the debt level of the country? Although, the US has a higher debt level but the way her universities are structured differs significantly from other countries even in the EU. Another reason could be developed Asian countries' antipathy towards foreign talents in higher education. Singapore is the exception here because of the benefits she accords to foreign scholars.

This book explains why American higher institutions are successful at attracting foreign talents and amass huge endowments: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674244230/?coliid=I1NNI8VHRIRQIG&colid=17FSMSCV4I4LB&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it


Please I like to know why compared with Germany, UK, USA etc?
Japanese should compared with them?
Japan should copy their working style, school life etc?

Please I want you to teach me.
I really wanna know.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Nobody: 9:11am On Jul 22, 2020
peacefull:


Please I like to know why compared with Germany, UK, USA etc?
Japanese should compared with them?
Japan should copy their working style, school life etc?

Please I want you to teach me.
I really wanna know.

First, I must commend your improvement on written English. I'm delighted because it really shows that practice makes improvement. Well done.

To your questions: I compared Japan to those countries because Japan's economy can be compared to them including patents' applications, trillion dollar companies and status in the global community. I didn't say Japan should copy America's working lifestyle but like Majisuka said, having the US style PhD study in Japan will endear many bright students to Japan. Currently, the vast majority of foreign students are in language schools not degree awarding tertiary institutions. Also, in the Amazon link I posted, the author explains why institutions in the US have been consistently the best because she attracts the best and brightest. This is evident by the disproportionate number of American schooled winners of the Nobel, Fields Medal, Wolf Prize, Abel Prize etc.

Furthermore, the birth rate in Japan is plummeting rapidly and according to a recent study published in the Lancet, by the end of this century, Japan's population ditto Spain will be reduced by 50%. If Japan is to sustain her strides in development, science and technology admist the competition from Korea, China, India and in the future Indonesia, she has to change her educational system to attract talents. Prior to Covid-19, some universities merged due to declining students' applications as a result of low birth rates. With Covid-19 and remote working and studies, more universities will either close or merge especially those in hinterlands. Lest I forget the debt levels of the government and low population of young people to pay it forward as regards to the pension system.
Re: Japanese Visa And Travelling To Japan by Nobody: 9:16am On Jul 22, 2020
majisuka:



It still doesn't even remotely justify why they need to take such drastic measure. Not even the likes of both Chinas (Mainland and Taiwan) and South Korea would ever go as much as abolishing the entire scholarships just to keep their populace happy and 'pure'.

She's really shooting herself in the foot because with the declining birth rate and disproportionate number of foreign students in language schools instead of degree awarding institutions, it will be hard to attract talents and compete in an increasingly competitive world.

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