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Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Nobody: 11:00am On Jul 22, 2020
Alawe:
Op I am 100% with you. You can check my comments here. I am an Etchie too, from OKEHI 2.

Go punish anybody that said I am not Igbo
Your dialect is similar to mine in Abia state.....I was once at GSS Okehi
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by NwaAro: 11:02am On Jul 22, 2020
Personally I don't care if the Etche, Ndoki or Ikwerre (especially theses ones) deny their Igboness till heaven comes, and this applies to all the Igbo subgroups that deny been Igbo for reasons best known to them, I say to each his own. The truth is they have never been relevant anyways in the grand scheme of things... I can't even list 3 notable Ikwerre figures known globally except I had to Google it (ain't nobody got time for that). I blame the Igbos on Nairaland for giving them so much attention that they don't even deserve sef.

Now my actual problem with these "Igbo groups" denying their roots isn't so much that they claim not to be Igbos, afterall every group has a right to promote and accentuate whatever identity they want. My grouse with these clowns however is the fact that they continue to float around the idiotic narrative that they come from Bini... ok fine, no yawa for that one... but why THE FUCCK do you still speak mutually intelligible Igbo dialects? why do you dress like us? answer our names? practice our cultures and traditions? is this the most brazen case of ethnic plagiarism and appropriation ever known to man? if your argument is that you intermingled with Igbos at some point in history and as a result of adopted our culture and language blah blah blah, then how come we can't trace a single original language, or culture of your people before they came in contact with the Igbos? what was the ORIGINAL language/customs/traditions of the Etche, Ndoki, Omuma, Ikwerre etc groups before they decided one morning to wake up and start speaking Igbo, dressing like us and practicing the traditions of our forefathers etc? I'm yet to see or meet anyone from these groups actually offer an intelligent and reasonably sound thesis or arguments to these questions...all they do is get defensive when presented with these facts (basic ones for that matter).

Tomorrow when the Northerners starts their ethnic riots in the North and they start hunting for Igbos to kill or maim, you think an average Hausa man will care to listen to some "Emeka Wokedi" from Ikwerre swearing on his fathers name that he's not Igbo...his head will be on the floor in seconds anyway. When one "Chibuike Wike" commits a grievous crime in Yankee or Europe...he will be tagged "Igbo" by the usual Igbo hating mongers, not Ikwerre or any of these mushroom groups.

Anyway when this joke of a country finally splits, everything will fall into its natural order and place... till then make all man dey craze him craze.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by BlackSaints:
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Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by SonOfEl(m): 11:06am On Jul 22, 2020
35824L:
The OP you quoted is Ipob from one of the five gully erosion ravaged states. He is not a Rivers man talk more of the ethnic group he claims. A frequent visitor to Nairaland should be able to discern their modus operandi by now. Their lifelong ambition has always been to steal the land and oil of Ikwere and other Rivers tribes which made 3 million of their ancestors perish as a result of their greed.
"our oyel" mugu on the loose again.

continue deluding yourself. You can't remove Igbo communities (obigbo, egbema) from Rivers State.

You ikwerre people are lost. We don't want you. stop engaging in our culture. Abi una no get culture?
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by BlackSaints:
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Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Allen102: 11:12am On Jul 22, 2020
BlackSaints:
I have! The imbeci|e keep telling me about Nigeria/ bia whatever war like I cared.
grin grin

Don't you think we should educate them?

Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by knowledgeable: 11:14am On Jul 22, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Let me break it down for you, I like your approach OP, no insult, no abuse, it is quite strange to me but you have done well in that part.

Igbos only influenced the riverine tribes, they are not the same with igbos, Igbos are travellers so their culture and language must have dominated the small tribes of the riverine area they migrated to. I have a documented article by a British man that visited the area in 1800. Another thing is that dressing like igbos and speaking igbos doesn't mean they are igbos, for example look at Yoruba cousin, the Igala, they belong to Yoruboid group, they wear clothes that look like Yoruba dress, our language is quite similar to theirs, so can you tell me, are igalas in Anambra Yoruba?

I understand some of your point, your family may be one of earlier igbos immigrant and you said, your elders have said they are not Igbos you can't know more than your elders.

Thanks
Mr Man, if you conduct a survey in Igbo land today, you will be surprise to find out that close to 100% of Igbos feel indifferent or don't really care about how these River line ethnic groups identify themselves.

...but almost 100% Igbos are confused as to the process of influence or assimilation that led to this identity confusion. Most Igbos believed that the historical evolutionary processes that led to their present identity should have left some elements of their original cultural root since this process was not imposed on them through war or trade, so naturally, most Igbos feel like this is a historical marginalization in parallel with their present day marginalization.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 11:15am On Jul 22, 2020
BlackSaints:
Before the Nigeria and whatever war,the ijaws has already been here, now get out of my sight M0ron.
I suggest you read up, M0ron. It has always been Ijo settlement in Igweocha (Port Harcourt) in the then Ahoada Divisional District. Please consult any book on the 1913 Hargrove land lease act and subsequent legal battles which ended in 1976 when Ikwerre group was allowed to collect increase in remuneration pertaining to the land lease and amended in the constitution. If Ikwerre group had requested for eviction, your silly ass in Port Harcourt would have been thrown back to the creeks where your forbearers started the migration path.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by IDENNAA(m): 11:23am On Jul 22, 2020
IvarTheBoneless:
Kollinzgee is a flat head Igbo from Aba or Umuahia. Just fooling himself and trying to change a narrative that can NEVER change. grin

Mission Impossible. They are not Igbos and will NEVER be no matter the tears... grin
See sifia pain in the house of the evil! If we didn't know Amaechi Rotimi and he comes online to claim Igbo you would still tag him a southeasterner. You are just mad grin
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 11:24am On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
I suggest you read up, M0ron. It has always been Ijo settlement in Igweocha (Port Harcourt) in the then Ahoada Divisional District. Please consult any book on the 1913 Hargrove land lease act and subsequent legal battles which ended in 1976 when Ikwerre group was allowed to collect increase in remuneration pertaining to the land lease and amended in the constitution. If Ikwerre group had requested for eviction, your silly ass in Port Harcourt would have thrown back to the creeks where your forbearers started the migration path.
So you are telling me the like of marine base, bokorikri, sand filed and co all belong to Igbos?

Calling you stupid will be an insult to stupid people grin grin

Perhaps you need the reading more pathetic clown.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m):
Graysons:
So you are telling me the like of marine base, bokorikri, sand filed and co all belong to Igbos?

Calling you stupid will be an insult to stupid people grin grin

Perhaps you need the reading more pathetic clown.
Did you read this from my post especially the belong to Igbos? Only clowns tend to live in bubble. The idea Ikwerre is not Igbo is a machination to separate mother hen from the chicken and it failed woefully. All Ikwerre are not fools including the dudes who resigned from Spiff's government. I do not have the time to urge a dumbass fool to read and abscond from imbedded falsehood.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Nobody: 11:31am On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
At Ozuzu yet people from Ozuzu , Etche pay annual homage to Umuneoha in Mbaitolu, LGA as their ancestral home and the place where the deity originated.
Same thing an old Mbaise woman married to an Ngwa man told me about Ngwa people migrating from umuneoha
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by SaintBishop:
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Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m):
SaintBishop:
This mumu and is worthless ancestors will just sit in their potpo Republic be talking nonsense, don't you know the Ikwerre you boast of aslo share PHLGA with Okrikans? grin
Shut up your putrid mouth. I suggest that a goon reads about 1913 Hargrove land lease act and legal battles thereafter. The mere territorial delimitation for governmental purposes does confirm ownership of crap to any airhead. Dunces could turn entire Rivers State into LGA, Ijo shall remain tenants in Port harcourt.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 11:39am On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
Did you read this from my post especially the belong to Igbos? Only clowns tend to live in bubble. The idea Ikwerre is not Igbo is a machination to separate mother hen from the chicken and failed woefully. All Ikwerre are not fools including the dudes who resigned from Spiff's government. I do not have the time to urge a dumbass fool to read and abscond from imbedded falsehood.
O poor me my bad! Let me rephrased my question, the places I mention do they belong to Ikwerres? cheesy cheesy
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Commonsense99: 11:39am On Jul 22, 2020
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This argument of ikwerre and anioma is not igbo is on same category as arguing if a gay is no longer a man.. This is why I don't like to argue with full blodded men whom cowardice and fear of fulani man made their fathers to deny Biafra and consequently igbo heritage, I need not ask you how far Nigeria have treated you since then grin

There was no such thing as igbo language until SPILC came up with igbo izugbe and aa bee chee dee alphabets, all languages that had igbo intonation and inclination were rated as IGBOID , and those who speak the LANGUAGES are called IGBO.
For the one milliont time, no ethnic group speaks the conventional igbo language you hear, we all learn it in school, we all have seperate but related languages from South East, to delta to rivers and even parts of kogi and benue.

It's a shame that our relatives allowed yorubas and fulanis to manipulate and intimidate them into denying their roots, what they don't know is, in closet, these guys still laugh at the average ikwerre man's identity crisis grin
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 11:47am On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
O poor me my bad! Let me rephrased my question, the places I mention do they belong to Ikwerres? cheesy cheesy
You can refer above idiotic question to Late Justice Ambrose Ezeolisa Allagoa, MINGI XI, Amanyanabo of Nembe Kingdom. He presided over one of the legal tussles that involve land issue of Port Harcourt.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 11:51am On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
You can refer above idiotic question to Late Justice Ambrose Ezeolisa Allagoa, MINGI XI, Amanyanabo of Nembe Kingdom. He presided over one the legal tussles involve land issue of Port Harcourt.
Look at you being shy, no come tell me I want to learn from your mouth oh wise one.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 11:54am On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
Shut up your putrid mouth. I suggest that a goon reads about 1913 Hargrove land lease act and legal battles thereafter. The mere territorial delimitation for governmental purposes does confirm ownership of crap to any airhead. Dunces could turn entire Rivers State into LGA, Ijo are tenants in Port harcourt.
So basically we are saying ijaws are also owners of Port Harcourt, and that is where they belong? I don't need to read anything you cunt.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 11:56am On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
Look at you being shy, no come tell me I want to learn from your mouth oh wise one.
If your parents offer a million dollar to educate a dumbbell, I shall bluntly refuse. Why would I educate a jackass whose trade in stock in open conversation is insult? You do not sound mildly intelligent anyway.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 11:58am On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
So basically we are saying ijaws are also owners of Port Harcourt, and that is where they belong? I don't need to read anything you cunt.
Who are the idiotic we in the above crap? Do not remotely include me in your silly insinuations.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 12:04pm On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
If your parents offer a million dollar to educate a dumbbell, I shall bluntly refuse. Why would I educate a jackass whose trade in stock in open conversation is insult? You do not sound mildly intelligent anyway.
Yeah but you will gladly accept their offer to go into all manner of crimes like drug dealings, scamming, human trafficking otoko and co. No need to tell me bra

I understand it is igbos way


Are Igbos intelligent? Common bro don't insult intelligent people, a clearly look at this east will prove otherwise.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 12:10pm On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
Who are the idiotic we in the above crap? Do not remotely include me in your silly insinuations.
But you type it na, were you having wet dreams when you type it?
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 12:13pm On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
Yeah but you will gladly accept their offer to go into all manner of crimes like drug dealings, scamming, human trafficking otoko and co. No need to tell me bra

I understand it is igbos ways.


Are Igbos intelligent? Common bro don't insult intelligent people, a clearly look at this east will prove otherwise.
I had accepted the "drug dealings, scamming, human trafficking otoko and co" instead of educating a dumbass stone such as you. No pun intended but straight out of reality bro.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 12:15pm On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
But you type it na, were you having wet dreams when you type it?
You cannot even read talk less comprehend. Please freaking get off my posts.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons: 12:17pm On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
I had accepted the "drug dealings, scamming, human trafficking otoko and co" instead to educate a dumbass stone such as you. No pun intended but straight out of reality bro.
Non taken, I have never held igbos in high regard your words means nothing to me my fake Jew friend. cool
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Graysons:
Dedetwo:
You cannot even read talk less comprehend. Please freaking get off my posts.
According to your bla bla rivers turn state LGA into Port Harcourt LGA.

So that means the ijaws are also owners of current pH, so tell how are they tenant in Port Harcourt?

In your attempt to be smart you end up being the dumb one unfortunate soul.
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Vyzz: 12:24pm On Jul 22, 2020
I don't have much to say....



I used to consider they tribes op listed as igbo till one of them bearing Igbo name and speaking Igbo told me that he isn't Igbo....


Online if u make the mistake of attaching them close to igbo na ur die b that.... So I Decided to see them for what they want to be seen as....


My cousins are from Anioma and the identify as igbo.... One of them Is a soldier and he was sent to fight with Boko Haram and even though he has requested for a transfer because he is asthmatic, he hasn't gotten it.... He said that the sent him amongst others there because he had an igbo name.... grin if only the knew better...


Once u bear an igbo name and speak it and even look it.... People will call u igbo... Your Yoruba Hausa and other tribe friends will term u that Igbo boy at first.... Na later the will be like... "Oh I though u were Igbo".



Well I think u guys are confused because even in an igboist Facebook group or Igbo rant...

U will see Post of Anioma person complaining how people see them as fake igbo... Or not original Igbo....

Or u comment that they are not Igbo and the will reply u with insult saying the are Igbo...


Y'all need to calm down and ask yourselves "WHAT ARE WE REALLY?", then when u get an answer to this question... Tell the world so we can know what we will call u...
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Dedetwo(m): 12:29pm On Jul 22, 2020
Graysons:
Non taken, I have never held igbos in high regard your words means nothing to me my fake Jew friend. cool
You foolishly forgot Ijo was never an ethnic group. Do not bring Igbo into this discuss. Who gives a ratass about silly ninny holding a group of people in high regard?
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Gabkosh: 12:39pm On Jul 22, 2020
kollinzgee:
Oooohhhhh shocked
Now I see the reason why, but that still doesn't change the fact that we are igbos.oyo empire did worse to their fellow yoruba states did they reject being yorubas...google Ikwere and etche and tell me the answer..i sense you are a Yoruba man I notice you guys hate Igbos a lot in this site..by the way no one it talking about biafra here.
Name what oyo empire did o. Mr historian.

You discover yoruba hate igbos so much on this site.

Did you also discover that igbos love yorubas so much that they can remove their eyeball for them huh
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Etinosa1234: 12:41pm On Jul 22, 2020
Dedetwo:
Even Eshan people deny being Bini or Edo when their names state otherwise. I guess the shithole called Nigeria is filled with denial artists.
Lol...esan are not Benin... that's a different tribe entirely...
Will u claim itsekiri is Yoruba despite difference in culture
Re: My Question For Ikwerre, Epkeye And Anioma Groups. by Seerade029: 12:42pm On Jul 22, 2020
Must every Igbo discussions involve Yorubashuh
For those saying Ijebus are not Yorubas. You guys are ignorant.
Ijebus are Yoruba, they only traced their forefathers to Sudan or so.
And they also reject the Yoruba tag. They prefer Omoluabi or Karo Ojire or Ijebu tag.
Stop writing trash pls
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