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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:43pm On Jul 28, 2020
Edopesin:


Are you sure you quoted the right person?

Anyways I'm talking about his time with Chelsea in the Premier League

No point keeping online malice man, even if we don't agree most of the time.

By the way, sorry about the abuses
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:44pm On Jul 28, 2020
JayromWrites:



I was being comedic.

Because in my experience of you live in a society unless you are excluded by lack of capacity to engage.

The you will pick up mannerisms, appreciate some things and have a better understanding of the dynamics socio-economic as well political of the UK.

But his understanding and how he conveys ideas makes it very uh difficult to believe he is in JAND.

It's not impossible , there are people who have lived in the UK from Somalia for 20 years and cannot speak any English.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:44pm On Jul 28, 2020
jihday:
The one he played for Swansea doesn't count abi?

I was talking about his first season with Chelsea

My bad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 11:45pm On Jul 28, 2020
forgiveness:


As usual. grin

Bros , longest time. They said you stopped posting because you ran out of air time grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:46pm On Jul 28, 2020
Edopesin:


I was talking about his first season with Chelsea

And komokn was talking about his over all seasons in the epl
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:46pm On Jul 28, 2020
jihday:
If it's that easy Man City would not have played 5-5 abi na 5-4 with spurs last season

I dint understand yohr point. Was it Mourinho that played the Champions League game?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:46pm On Jul 28, 2020
Me I no dey waste my time dey argue player A vs B. I go focus that energy praise performing players. That’s progressive. No time for negative energy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:46pm On Jul 28, 2020
Joebie:
Formation2
Too attack minded, if a disciplined team catch us they'll cut us to pieces
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:47pm On Jul 28, 2020
ChrisKels:


No point keeping online malice man, even if we don't agree most of the time.

By the way, sorry about the abuses

I apologise the same and you're right there's no point in it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47pm On Jul 28, 2020
jihday:
clown grin
Different clothes ko different agbada ni

Insults do not give you credence.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:48pm On Jul 28, 2020
Joebie:
Me I no dey waste my time dey argue player A vs B. I go focus that energy praise performing players. That’s progressive. No time for negative energy.

Truth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:48pm On Jul 28, 2020
Blueelf:


MOU got the job done with his negative tactics

Tell this your story to porto and inter fans and let me see if they will side with you

They can get carried away with that but it doesn't change the fact of his tactical inadequacies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:49pm On Jul 28, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho in the most difficult games relied on park bus. Not once multiple time. He is totally overrated. Why do you think he came crashing at Chelsea and Manchester United.

Tactically Mourinho is not close to Rodgers. You people ard just saying best, record etc. I am talking tactically, if he meets top sides today, his best resort is to park bus.

You guys can not try to make him bigger than he is not.

Mourinho is not close to rodgers ?

Baba your matter weak me

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:51pm On Jul 28, 2020
andrewbaba44:


How many prolific striker apart from auba have left the bundesliga for the epl that you know ?

Even sane as a winger did better in the epl than bundesliga

We are talking strikers not wingers.

And my point is very clear look at the pedigree of Aubmeyang over the past 4/5 seasons played in the Bundesliga.

He has NEVER been able to replicate that goal tally of 31 goals in the EPL.

Timo Werner is not better than Aubmeyang and why do you think he will come and become the numero 1 in Chelsea and dominate in the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:51pm On Jul 28, 2020
Danielnino00:


You overrate Rodger's tactical prowess... The man is an overrated British manager..
A tactical genius will perform so woefully like he did in his 3rd season at Liverpool after bottling the league the season before..
A tactical genius will not sign craps to replace one of the best striker in the world!
A tactical genius will not sign so many players and yet be clueless on how to use them(Aspas,Sahin,Luis Alberto,Markovic,Lallana,et Al)
A tactical genius will not lose 6-1 to Stoke city....

The man is just average ..that's the truth.

He isn't even half of quarter of what Mourinho is...


Does a bad run cancel a brilliant run? Rodgers did amazing with Swansea, went to Liverpool and delivered a masterpiece. Had a bad season, does that negate the earlier achievements.

Yoh are jjst beinf selective to pick a bad spell out of the quality spells.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:51pm On Jul 28, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Give Rodgers real Madrid and CR7 and you will marvel.

With Porto, Mourinho parked bus against La Corona. Was too dull to go toe-to-toe against Irureta.

With Inter Milan, after Barcelona humiliated him in the group stages, decided to park the bus against them because they are well above his intellect.

After Barcelona humiliated him 5-0, in his next game, he played ultra parked bus.

I beg, that man does not follow.

Mourinho style is very dirty and i am not a fan of him, but comparing rodgers and him is totally wrong

But he parked the bus and won the champions league 2004

I dont like jose but i wont be sentimental

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:52pm On Jul 28, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Mourinho is not close to rodgers ?

Baba your matter weak me

I have made the point very clear. You are just rjnning in circles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:52pm On Jul 28, 2020
Joebie:
Formation3
Comot Kalu, take Moses to the left and bring in Chuks finish
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54pm On Jul 28, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Mourinho style is very dirty and i am not a fan of him, but comparing rodgers and him is totally wrong

But he parked the bus and won the champions league 2004

I dont like jose but i wont be sentimental

Which one is sentimental again.

My point is simple. Rodgers is more tactically deep than Mourinho. Mourinho will always park bus when he meets a far superior tactically sound team. Which shows he is not as good as many believe.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:55pm On Jul 28, 2020
IDENNAA:


Eze is not Nigeria while Iwobi has failed as a midfielder

This is shocking.

Iwobi has failed as a Midfielder but Nwakali has been outstanding and is better.

There is misplaced bias and there sheer utter DISRESPECT.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:55pm On Jul 28, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Does a bad run cancel a brilliant run? Rodgers did amazing with Swansea, went to Liverpool and delivered a masterpiece. Had a bad season, does that negate the earlier achievements.

Yoh are jjst beinf selective to pick a bad spell out of the quality spells.

Masterpiece?
What masterpiece? grin

His first season was poor, his second season was great, the third one was terrible and the last beyond terrible..
How is that a masterpiece?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:56pm On Jul 28, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


They can get carried away with that but it doesn't change the fact of his tactical inadequacies.

Asides the fact that I'm a Chelsea fan, Rodgers is no where near Mourinho at all

David Moyes is a better coach by far.....

Though one is more attack minded than the other but that alone doesn't win trophies, Mourinho plays his tactics well and approaches games with caution while ending up in winning

Mourinho would have finished top 4 If he had been in Rodgers shoes towards the end of the season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:57pm On Jul 28, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Which one is sentimental again.

My point is simple. Rodgers is more tactically deep than Mourinho. Mourinho will always park bus when he meets a far superior tactically sound team. Which shows he is not as good as many believe.

Finito.

I bet Rodgers wish he had parked the bus against crystal palace at Selhurst park in 2014..
We would have won the league then and Klopp would not have taken the glory...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:59pm On Jul 28, 2020
Edopesin:


Asides the fact that I'm a Chelsea fan, Rodgers is no where near Mourinho at all

David Moyes is a better coach by far.....

Though one is more attack minded than the other but that alone doesn't win trophies, Mourinho plays his tactics well and approaches games with caution while ending up in winning

Mourinho would have finished top 4 If he had been in Rodgers shoes towards the end of the season

Parking the bus is itself a form of tactical play.
Mourinho and Diego Simeone have one of the most conservative style of play in football but they have managed to use it to outwit bigger teams and win trophies..

It seems like Thegoodjoe definition of "tactical genius" is knowing how to play attacking football!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:01am On Jul 29, 2020
Danielnino00:


I bet Rodgers wish he had parked the bus against crystal palace at Selhurst park in 2014..
We would have won the league then and Klopp would not have taken the glory...

Unfortunately he does not. Because, he has a goal to keep developing in the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02am On Jul 29, 2020
Danielnino00:


Parking the bus is itself a form of tactical play.
Mourinho and Diego Simeone have one of the most conservative style of play in football but they have managed to use it to outwit bigger teams and win trophies..

It seems like Thegoodjoe definition of "tactical genius" is knowing how to play attacking football!

Parking the bus is more of strategy than tactics. That is where you guys miss it.

It is accepting the opponent's superiority and looking for an alternative to win against a better opponent.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:03am On Jul 29, 2020
charlesemeka85:
and how sure are you that Nwakali will perform well in laliga next season? Atleast we hv felt aribo's impact in the few caps he got for the national team and already is a top performer in the Scottish league and the uel.

Is Huesca better than rangers? Aribo made the leap to the Scottish top tier from English third tier and bossed the league. Okay I accept that the Scottish league isn't strong enough but what about his performances in the uel so far?

Bros no dey allow sentiment and favoritism blind your sense of judgment. No sane coach will even drop etebo or azeez for a misfit like Nwakali judging by current form let alone aribo who has been good so far for the super eagles.

If Nwakali can't stake a claim in Porto B's starting 11 I doubt if he will make rangers 1st team let alone their bench

Being in a top league does not automatically make you a top player. You can be anonymous and almost a spectator.

I would rather have the most outstanding consistent players in the Championship than a players in a moi moi team in La Liga who has done nothing and will do nothing.

Eze, Tega and Ovie are outstanding players in thier league.

You could add Iorfa and Adarabioyo to that list in the context of defence. And on the wing we have Osayi coming in to stake a claim.

Finally, Scottish Premiership league may have a low rating. however the club Rangers has a much much higher rating than Huesca in European club ratings.

If you have the time look at the players and value of Sunderland and Hulls players and compare to Huesca and you will see gap that will suprise. And these are essential league one clubs now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:04am On Jul 29, 2020
Danielnino00:


Parking the bus is itself a form of tactical play.
Mourinho and Diego Simeone have one of the most conservative style of play in football but they have managed to use it to outwit bigger teams and win trophies..

It seems like Thegoodjoe definition of "tactical genius" is knowing how to play attacking football!

When Simeone tried to play an offensive brand of football, he got River Plate, the Barcelona of Argentine football relegated.

It is difficult to coach in an offensive pattern.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:05am On Jul 29, 2020
charlesemeka85:
saw it on qpr's tweeter handle few minutes ago

Plenty time deh and a lot of Maradona moves before he will decide where to go.

That's the first price offer, somebody may come in much higher. Let's watch the drama play out, Eze is now very very hot property.

And some people will say he is not good enough for the SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 12:09am On Jul 29, 2020
Yes a bad season negates previous good seasons(not fully). It gives one a reason to rethink the opinion that you are the real deal.
TheGoodJoe:


Does a bad run cancel a brilliant run? Rodgers did amazing with Swansea, went to Liverpool and delivered a masterpiece. Had a bad season, does that negate the earlier achievements.

Yoh are jjst beinf selective to pick a bad spell out of the quality spells.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:11am On Jul 29, 2020
mank1234:


It's easier for African French players to make it in Europe compared to their English counterpart. It doesn't mean they are better in terms of quality. The reason is because, they are easily absorbed in France because of their policy of assimilation; from there getting to other European countries is easy.

Quality for quality we are better.

Agreed.

However, talent and quality are not constants but variables that change upwards and or downwards depending what is invested.

These French pkayers come to French league one clubs direct from their local leagues in Francophone countries.

They immediately get the better training and development and begin to improve. Before our local league players navigate the crooked agents, and all the other issues from Nigeria to European league football, thier youth is already expired. Irrespective of what official age is on thier passport.

Finally they sometimes start at the most backward league in Europe and take years to get to a better league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:14am On Jul 29, 2020
Swansealona

But with more than a quarter of the season gone, Rodgers's players now sit 10th in the table. Since that Arsenal game they have not only achieved results but in some style. Last weekend they were applauded off the pitch at Anfield by Liverpool's own fans, impressed by the way Swansea had gained a 0-0 draw while, by some observers' reckoning, out-passing their more illustrious opponents.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2060748/amp/How-Brendan-Rodgers-turned-Swansea-talk-Premier-League.html

Rodgers was able to coach a small team to the point they met a far superior side and not park bus but outplayed the superior side.

This is my point of the difference.

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