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advocatejare:
Let's see who is blabbing now : let's examine the Quran:

Most Muslims do not know that Sarah was not the mother of Ishmael. Ishmael is the ancestor of the Arabs and Muhammad. Ishmael was the son of Hagar the Egyptian slave of Sarah.

Imams and Ustaz always lie to us that Abraham wanted to sacrifice Ishmael but the Quran never made that claim. The Quran was silent on the name of the sacrificial son, but it's glaring that the son is Isaac

The Quran is disjointed, I'll help you by bringing it together so that you can know that Isaac is the one whose glad tidings was brought
رَبِّ هَبْ لِى مِنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)


فَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِغُلٰمٍ حَلِيمٍ
"So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 101)



وَامْرَأَتُهُۥ قَآئِمَةٌ فَضَحِكَتْ فَبَشَّرْنٰهَا بِإِسْحٰقَ وَمِنْ وَرَآءِ إِسْحٰقَ يَعْقُوبَ
"And his Wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob."
(QS. Hud 11: Verse 71)



وَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِإِسْحٰقَ نَبِيًّا مِّنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"And We gave him good tidings of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 112)



فَلَمَّا بَلَغَ مَعَهُ السَّعْىَ قَالَ يٰبُنَىَّ إِنِّىٓ أَرٰى فِى الْمَنَامِ أَنِّىٓ أَذْبَحُكَ فَانْظُرْ مَاذَا تَرٰى  ۚ قَالَ يٰٓأَبَتِ افْعَلْ مَا تُؤْمَرُ  ۖ سَتَجِدُنِىٓ إِنْ شَآءَ اللَّهُ مِنَ الصّٰبِرِينَ
"And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think. He said, O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 102)


The Quran didn't tell us why Abraham's wife smiled (wife not slave girl) we will pardon the Quran for not telling us because the Quran had said we should believe in the Torah and in the Torah, the reason why Sarah laughed was explained.

Muhammad knew that he plagiarized the Torah, Psalms and Gospels that was why he directed you to those books for proper understanding of what he told you because without those books most stories in the Quran can't be understood, and he was also exonerating himself in a way. So that on day of judgement when you're giving excuses that Muhammad was the one that misled you, Muhammad would simply tell you that he had instructed you to find out the truth by yourself


Now let me teach you.

"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)

This is the Explanation :

Genesis 15
Verse 1 : Some time later, the Lord spoke to Abram in a vision and said to him, “Do not be afraid, Abram, for I will protect you, and your reward will be great.”

2. But Abram replied, “O Sovereign Lord, what good are all your blessings when I don’t even have a son? Since you’ve given me no children, Eliezer of Damascus, a servant in my household, will inherit all my wealth.

4. Then the Lord said to him, “No, your servant will not be your heir, for you will have a son of your own who will be your heir.”


But Sarah decided to help God by giving her maid, Hagar to Abraham because Sarah felt she was too old to have a child.

Genesis 16:1-2
Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had not been able to bear children for him. But she had an Egyptian servant named Hagar.
So Sarai said to Abram, “The Lord has prevented me from having children. Go and sleep with my servant. Perhaps I can have children through her.” And Abram agreed with Sarai’s proposal.

But when Hagar got pregnant for Abraham, she began to treat Sarah in contempt and Sarah reported to Abraham who then asked Sarah to deal with Hagar as she liked since Hagar was her maid. Sarah then sent Hagar away and the Angel of the Lord saw Hagar and instructed her to go back and submit to the authority of Sarah her mistress and the Angel of the Lord told Hagar that the child in her womb will be called Ishmael and that

"This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamedas a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.”

Perfect description of Muhammad, a wild man, untamed and in open hostility against his relatives the descendants of Isaac(Israel)
-Genesis 16:5-12

Now, God brought the good tidings of Isaac by telling Abraham that Sarah would have a child

Genesis 17:15-22
Then God said to Abraham, “Regarding Sarai, your wife—her name will no longer be Sarai. From now on her name will be Sarah.
And I will bless her and give you a son from her! Yes, I will bless her richly, and she will become the mother of many nations. Kings of nations will be among her descendants.”

Then Abraham bowed down to the ground, but he laughed to himself in disbelief. “How could I become a father at the age of 100?” he thought. “And how can Sarah have a baby when she is ninety years old?”

Then Abraham wanted to help God again by saying God should simply bless Ishmael instead of trying to give Sarah a child at that very old age.

But God replied, “No—Sarah, your wife, will give birth to a son for you. You will name him Isaac, and I will confirm my covenant with him and his descendants as an everlasting covenant.

He said He will bless Ishmael too but his covenant will be with Isaac.

Now on the issue of Sarah's laughter.

Genesis 18:10-14

Then one of them said, “I will return to you about this time next year, and your wife, Sarah, will have a son!” Sarah was listening to this conversation from the tent.

Abraham and Sarah were both very old by this time, and Sarah was long past the age of having children.

So she laughed silently to herself and said, “How could a worn-out woman like me enjoy such pleasure, especially when my master—my husband—is also so old?”

Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Can an old woman like me have a baby?’

Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”


Genesis 21:1-3
The Lord kept his word and did for Sarah exactly what he had promised.

She became pregnant, and she gave birth to a son for Abraham in his old age. This happened at just the time God had said it would.
And Abraham named their son Isaac.

Later, Ishmael was making fun of Isaac and Sarah saw him and asked Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away and that was how they left Abraham's house leaving Abraham with only Isaac as the only Son in his house, long before Abraham was instructed to sacrifice Isaac.

Now, the Bible was clear on whom Abraham was to sacrifice

Genesis 22:2

“Take your son, your only son—yes, Isaac, whom you love so much—and go to the land of Moriah. Go and sacrifice him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”

You claim its Isaac that was sacrificed ,where in the verses did Allah said its Issac..
Bro its Ismael the first born ,All Muslim knows that Sarah didnt give birth to ismael
We find the story of Abraham and Ishmael’s sacrifice in the Quran in the chapter called As-Saffat (which translates to mean “Ranged in Rows”). We do not find the name of Abraham’s son there; but the context of the verses (37:100-108) clearly shows that it was his firstborn Ishmael who was to be sacrificed.

Particularly note the verses 100-102:

And Abraham prayed: “O my Sustainer! Bestow upon me the gift of [a son who shall be] one of the righteous!” – whereupon We gave him the glad tiding of a boy-child gentle (like himself)
And (one day,) when [the child] had become old enough to share in his [father’s] endeavors, the latter said: “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I should sacrifice thee: consider, then, what would be thy view!” [Ishmael] answered: “O my father! Do as thou art bidden: thou wilt find me, if God so wills, among those who are patient in adversity.
But as soon as the two had surrendered themselves to [what they thought to be the will of God], and [Abraham] had laid him down on his face.
We called out to him: “O Abraham, thou hast already fulfilled [the purpose of] that dream- vision!” Thus, verily, do We reward the doers of good: or, behold, all this was indeed a trial, clear in itself.” And We ransomed him with a tremendous sacrifice and left him thus to be remembered among later generation. (37:100-108)
Verses 37:100-102 tell us that Prophet Abraham, who had no children, prayed to God for the gift of a righteous son; and God blessed him with a son. Obviously the son born to him as an answer to his prayer for offspring, can only be his firstborn Ishmael.

And the next verse (i.e 37:102) tells us, with what gentleness Abraham broke to this son of his the news about God’s command to sacrifice him.

It is a really moving and inspiring experience to read how Prophet Abraham’s beloved son responds to his father’s question about his view of the sacrifice:

…He said: O my father! do what you are commanded; if Allah please, you will find me of the patient ones. (37:102)
Thus the noble father and his noble son submitted to the will of God; and the All-Merciful stopped Prophet Abraham from sacrificing his son; indeed He ransomed him with “a tremendous sacrifice”
And after those verses ,
Allah said this again. so who did Ibrahim sacrificed if ure truthful .

Akhirastriver:
Agba ,master
Naso so one guy wey dey one cult lyk dat talk ,he talk say he get charm strong one .
Na one bullet kill am

that one na that guy. for your info, charm no dey stop bullet. i no believe in all that stupid religious shit and charm and jazz.bring your imam wife wey get bg fat yansh, put magun for her toto, i go Bleep craze commot for her body and nothing go hapen

GalPissetzky:
that one na that guy. for your info, charm no dey stop bullet. i no believe in all that stupid religious shit and charm and jazz.bring your imam wife wey get bg fat yansh, put magun for her toto, i go Bleep craze commot for her body and nothing go hapen

No worry ,u no believe in jazz but u no fit touch am ,av fun bleeping

Akhirastriver:
You claim its Isaac that was sacrificed ,where in the verses did Allah said its Issac..

Where in the Quran did it say it was Ishmael?






Particularly note the verses 100-102:

And Abraham prayed: “O my Sustainer! Bestow upon me the gift of [a son who shall be] one of the righteous!” – whereupon We gave him the glad tiding of a boy-child gentle (like himself)
And (one day,) when [the child] had become old enough to share in his [father’s] endeavors, the latter said: “O my dear son! I have seen in a dream that I should sacrifice thee: consider, then, what would be thy view!” [Ishmael] answered: “O my father! Do as thou art bidden: thou wilt find me, if God so wills, among those who are patient in adversity.

"[Ishmael]" was inserted by the translator into that verse. It is not in the Arabic Quran like that.

advocatejare:
Where in the Quran did it say it was Ishmael?






Particularly note the verses 100-102:



"[Ishmael]" was inserted by the translator into that verse. It is not in the Arabic Quran like that.

U lack common sense ,am just wasting my time , if it was Isaac that was sacrificed y would we change it ,Allah didnt say it was Isaac or Ishmael but the content was clearly talking abt the first born Ishmael.
Then y did Allah said we gave him glad tidings of Isaac after talking abt Ibrahim sacrifice .
If u still don't get it by now ,thats ur own problem

advocatejare:
Sacrificing animal is not new to Islam, the pagan Abdulmuttalib, the grandfather of Muhammad whom all the Islamic sources agree was a pagan and an idol worshipper sacrificed animals to his idol.

You will soon know the name of that idol of his:




Animal sacrifice and sharing for people to eat was a pagan tradition that Muhammad brought into Islam, it has nothing to do with Abraham. Abraham offered his Ram as a burnt offering, he didn't share it among people.

ITS OBVIOUS YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE NOT ONLY OF ISLAM BUT ALSO ALL THE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS INCLUDING CHRISTIANITY.

THE YOUR SCRIPTURE IS REPLETE WITH EPISODES OF ANIMAL SACRIFICE RIGHT FROM ADAM.

WHEN THE GENERATION OF A PARTICULAR PROPHET DIES OFF, THEY ARE REPLACED BY IDOLATROUS ONES WHICH NONETHELESS PRESERVE SOME OF THEIR FATHERS' RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS.

THE SAME WAS WHAT HAPPENED IN ARABIA AFTER IBRAHIM AND ISMAIL'S FAITH DISAPPEARED. THIS WAS THE ARABIA THE PROPHET MET.

HIS MISSION WAS TO OBLITERATE IDOL WORSHIP FROM ARABIA AND RETAIN RITES WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY A PART OF IBRAHIM'S FAITH. AND WHAT A RESOUNDING SUCCESS DID HE ACHIEVE IN THAT REGARD.

LET ME GIVE YOU A SIMILAR EXAMPLE OF THIS IN YOUR FAITH.

MOST ATHEISTS IN THE WEST TODAY WED IN THE CHURCH AND CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS BUT HATE CHRISTIANITY WITH ALL THEIR MIGHT. THESE RITES HAVE BECOME NOTHING MORE THAN CULTURAL LEGACIES.

THIS ATTITUDE IS SPREADING BECAUSE ATHEISM IS SPREADING MORE AMONG THEM.

SO I THINK YOU SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT THIS.

motayoayinde:
ITS OBVIOUS YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE NOT ONLY OF ISLAM BUT ALSO ALL THE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS INCLUDING CHRISTIANITY.

THE YOUR SCRIPTURE IS REPLETE WITH EPISODES OF ANIMAL SACRIFICE RIGHT FROM ADAM.

WHEN THE GENERATION OF A PARTICULAR PROPHET DIES OFF, THEY ARE REPLACED BY IDOLATROUS ONES WHICH NONETHELESS PRESERVE SOME OF THEIR FATHERS' RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS.

THE SAME WAS WHAT HAPPENED IN ARABIA AFTER IBRAHIM AND ISMAIL'S FAITH DISAPPEARED. THIS WAS THE ARABIA THE PROPHET MET.

HIS MISSION WAS TO OBLITERATE IDOL WORSHIP FROM ARABIA AND RETAIN RITES WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY A PART OF IBRAHIM'S FAITH. AND WHAT A RESOUNDING SUCCESS DID HE ACHIEVE IN THAT REGARD.

LET ME GIVE YOU A SIMILAR EXAMPLE OF THIS IN YOUR FAITH.

MOST ATHEISTS IN THE WEST TODAY WED IN THE CHURCH AND CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS BUT HATE CHRISTIANITY WITH ALL THEIR MIGHT. THESE RITES HAVE BECOME NOTHING MORE THAN CULTURAL LEGACIES.

THIS ATTITUDE IS SPREADING BECAUSE ATHEISM IS SPREADING MORE AMONG THEM.

SO I THINK YOU SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT THIS.

Don't mind him ,he lacks common sense

advocatejare:
Sacrificing animal is not new to Islam, the pagan Abdulmuttalib, the grandfather of Muhammad whom all the Islamic sources agree was a pagan and an idol worshipper sacrificed animals to his idol.

You will soon know the name of that idol of his:




Animal sacrifice and sharing for people to eat was a pagan tradition that Muhammad brought into Islam, it has nothing to do with Abraham. Abraham offered his Ram as a burnt offering, he didn't share it among people.

Abraham offered his Ram as burnt offering, he didn’t share it amongst people, who told you that version of the story?

favor914:
Abraham offered his Ram as burnt offering, he didn’t share it amongst people, who told you that version of the story?

If you have a contrary version, tell us

Akhirastriver:
U lack common sense ,am just wasting my time , if it was Isaac that was sacrificed y would we change it

You changed it because Isaac is the father of Israel and Ishmael is the father of Arabs, Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael so it is expected that you want to rate Ishmael the son of the slave girl whom Abraham had a fling with, above Isaac the promised child of the legitimate wife, Sarah.

Allah didnt say it was Isaac or Ishmael but the content was clearly talking abt the first born Ishmael.

The same Allah had told you to consult the people of the book anytime you're in doubt.(Quran 10:94) Why did Allah not mention the name of the particular child? Obviously, Allah must have mentioned it but the editor of the Quran removed it to conceal the truth, you know how we were told in the sahih hadith that the original manuscripts of the Quran was burnt by Zaid and Uthman:

So Uthman sent for the manuscript with Hafsa
"...So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies."... Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510


So Uthman then ordered his scribes to write the new Quran in the dialect of the Quraysh and when they were done with their editing and standardization they buried the evidence of their alterations by burning the evidence.


"...'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt..." Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510

You also asked:

Then y did Allah said we gave him glad tidings of Isaac after talking abt Ibrahim sacrifice.

The Quran is disjointed and not chronological, so the fact that the good tiding was given after the sacrifice does not mean anything because it was not as if the Ismael u claimed was being referred to as the sacrificial child was killed, so if he wasn't killed, why will the good tiding make any difference?

The Torah has already explained in details about how Isaac was the promised child, and how he was the sacrificial child and Hagar and Ismael had already been sent out of Abraham's house before God asked Abraham to make a sacrifice.

You would not be this confused if you obey the word of your Allah that rather you should ask people of the book

فَإِن كُنتَ فِي شَكٍّ مِّمَّا أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ فَاسْأَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَاءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ - 10:94
So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.


وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 16:43
And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.

motayoayinde:
ITS OBVIOUS YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE NOT ONLY OF ISLAM BUT ALSO ALL THE ABRAHAMIC FAITHS INCLUDING CHRISTIANITY.

THE YOUR SCRIPTURE IS REPLETE WITH EPISODES OF ANIMAL SACRIFICE RIGHT FROM ADAM.

WHEN THE GENERATION OF A PARTICULAR PROPHET DIES OFF, THEY ARE REPLACED BY IDOLATROUS ONES WHICH NONETHELESS PRESERVE SOME OF THEIR FATHERS' RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS.

THE SAME WAS WHAT HAPPENED IN ARABIA AFTER IBRAHIM AND ISMAIL'S FAITH DISAPPEARED. THIS WAS THE ARABIA THE PROPHET MET.

HIS MISSION WAS TO OBLITERATE IDOL WORSHIP FROM ARABIA AND RETAIN RITES WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY A PART OF IBRAHIM'S FAITH. AND WHAT A RESOUNDING SUCCESS DID HE ACHIEVE IN THAT REGARD.

Abraham never worshipped an idol called Allah/Hubal, Abraham never fasted in the month of ramadan, abraham never kissed the blackstone. Abraham was not a idol worshipper except of course your fictitious Ibrahim

LET ME GIVE YOU A SIMILAR EXAMPLE OF THIS IN YOUR FAITH.

MOST ATHEISTS IN THE WEST TODAY WED IN THE CHURCH AND CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS BUT HATE CHRISTIANITY WITH ALL THEIR MIGHT. THESE RITES HAVE BECOME NOTHING MORE THAN CULTURAL LEGACIES.

THIS ATTITUDE IS SPREADING BECAUSE ATHEISM IS SPREADING MORE AMONG THEM.

SO I THINK YOU SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT THIS.

you should be worried about how women are sexually harassed at Allah's shrine during Tawaf:

All sorts of sexual harassments take place at Islamic 'holiest' site the house of Allah in whichfor years women are sexually harassed and some of them have started speaking out with hashtag #MosqueMeToo

""It is during the tawaf that many women experience groping, handling and grabbing, says Eltahawy, according to the responses she's heard from women. "It's very crowded. At any given moment, there are thousands of men and women [circling Kaaba at one time].""

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/26/588855132/-mosquemetoo-gives-muslim-women-a-voice-about-sexual-misconduct-at-mecca?t=1589006156833


You should be more concerned about how homosexuality is associated with Islam and how Allah promise you gay sex:

Saudi Arabia and Islamic countries have the highest number of homosexual in the world
Northern Nigeria that has the highest number of Muslims practice homosexuality more in Nigeria. Those of us living in the North know how your Islamic brothers tear one another's anuses.

Just this January your Muslim brothers were arrested in Kano state when they were having gay orgies, the type Allah plan for you in his paradise.

https://dailypost.ng/2020/01/05/over-50-homosexuals-arrested-during-orgy-in-kano-state/


Why won't it be so when god has promised you gay orgy
"There will circulate among them young boys made eternal"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 17)

advocatejare:
Let's see who is blabbing now : let's examine the Quran:

Most Muslims do not know that Sarah was not the mother of Ishmael. Ishmael is the ancestor of the Arabs and Muhammad. Ishmael was the son of Hagar the Egyptian slave of Sarah.

Imams and Ustaz always lie to us that Abraham wanted to sacrifice Ishmael but the Quran never made that claim. The Quran was silent on the name of the sacrificial son, but it's glaring that the son is Isaac

The Quran is disjointed, I'll help you by bringing it together so that you can know that Isaac is the one whose glad tidings was brought
رَبِّ هَبْ لِى مِنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)


فَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِغُلٰمٍ حَلِيمٍ
"So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 101)



وَامْرَأَتُهُۥ قَآئِمَةٌ فَضَحِكَتْ فَبَشَّرْنٰهَا بِإِسْحٰقَ وَمِنْ وَرَآءِ إِسْحٰقَ يَعْقُوبَ
"And his Wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob."
(QS. Hud 11: Verse 71)



وَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِإِسْحٰقَ نَبِيًّا مِّنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"And We gave him good tidings of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 112)



فَلَمَّا بَلَغَ مَعَهُ السَّعْىَ قَالَ يٰبُنَىَّ إِنِّىٓ أَرٰى فِى الْمَنَامِ أَنِّىٓ أَذْبَحُكَ فَانْظُرْ مَاذَا تَرٰى  ۚ قَالَ يٰٓأَبَتِ افْعَلْ مَا تُؤْمَرُ  ۖ سَتَجِدُنِىٓ إِنْ شَآءَ اللَّهُ مِنَ الصّٰبِرِينَ
"And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think. He said, O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 102)


The Quran didn't tell us why Abraham's wife smiled (wife not slave girl) we will pardon the Quran for not telling us because the Quran had said we should believe in the Torah and in the Torah, the reason why Sarah laughed was explained.

Muhammad knew that he plagiarized the Torah, Psalms and Gospels that was why he directed you to those books for proper understanding of what he told you because without those books most stories in the Quran can't be understood, and he was also exonerating himself in a way. So that on day of judgement when you're giving excuses that Muhammad was the one that misled you, Muhammad would simply tell you that he had instructed you to find out the truth by yourself


Now let me teach you.

"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)

This is the Explanation :

Genesis 15
Verse 1 : Some time later, the Lord spoke to Abram in a vision and said to him, “Do not be afraid, Abram, for I will protect you, and your reward will be great.”

2. But Abram replied, “O Sovereign Lord, what good are all your blessings when I don’t even have a son? Since you’ve given me no children, Eliezer of Damascus, a servant in my household, will inherit all my wealth.

4. Then the Lord said to him, “No, your servant will not be your heir, for you will have a son of your own who will be your heir.”


But Sarah decided to help God by giving her maid, Hagar to Abraham because Sarah felt she was too old to have a child.

Genesis 16:1-2
Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had not been able to bear children for him. But she had an Egyptian servant named Hagar.
So Sarai said to Abram, “The Lord has prevented me from having children. Go and sleep with my servant. Perhaps I can have children through her.” And Abram agreed with Sarai’s proposal.

But when Hagar got pregnant for Abraham, she began to treat Sarah in contempt and Sarah reported to Abraham who then asked Sarah to deal with Hagar as she liked since Hagar was her maid. Sarah then sent Hagar away and the Angel of the Lord saw Hagar and instructed her to go back and submit to the authority of Sarah her mistress and the Angel of the Lord told Hagar that the child in her womb will be called Ishmael and that

"This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamedas a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.”

Perfect description of Muhammad, a wild man, untamed and in open hostility against his relatives the descendants of Isaac(Israel)
-Genesis 16:5-12

Now, God brought the good tidings of Isaac by telling Abraham that Sarah would have a child

Genesis 17:15-22
Then God said to Abraham, “Regarding Sarai, your wife—her name will no longer be Sarai. From now on her name will be Sarah.
And I will bless her and give you a son from her! Yes, I will bless her richly, and she will become the mother of many nations. Kings of nations will be among her descendants.”

Then Abraham bowed down to the ground, but he laughed to himself in disbelief. “How could I become a father at the age of 100?” he thought. “And how can Sarah have a baby when she is ninety years old?”

Then Abraham wanted to help God again by saying God should simply bless Ishmael instead of trying to give Sarah a child at that very old age.

But God replied, “No—Sarah, your wife, will give birth to a son for you. You will name him Isaac, and I will confirm my covenant with him and his descendants as an everlasting covenant.

He said He will bless Ishmael too but his covenant will be with Isaac.

Now on the issue of Sarah's laughter.

Genesis 18:10-14

Then one of them said, “I will return to you about this time next year, and your wife, Sarah, will have a son!” Sarah was listening to this conversation from the tent.

Abraham and Sarah were both very old by this time, and Sarah was long past the age of having children.

So she laughed silently to herself and said, “How could a worn-out woman like me enjoy such pleasure, especially when my master—my husband—is also so old?”

Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Can an old woman like me have a baby?’

Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”


Genesis 21:1-3
The Lord kept his word and did for Sarah exactly what he had promised.

She became pregnant, and she gave birth to a son for Abraham in his old age. This happened at just the time God had said it would.
And Abraham named their son Isaac.

Later, Ishmael was making fun of Isaac and Sarah saw him and asked Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away and that was how they left Abraham's house leaving Abraham with only Isaac as the only Son in his house, long before Abraham was instructed to sacrifice Isaac.

Now, the Bible was clear on whom Abraham was to sacrifice

Genesis 22:2

“Take your son, your only son—yes, Isaac, whom you love so much—and go to the land of Moriah. Go and sacrifice him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”

You're dumb. You're quoting Bible to justify Islam? What manner of fvckery

favor914:
Abraham offered his Ram as burnt offering, he didn’t share it amongst people, who told you that version of the story?

He's quoting Bible

advocatejare:
You changed it because Isaac is the father of Israel and Ishmael is the father of Arabs, Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael so it is expected that you want to rate Ishmael the son of the slave girl whom Abraham had a fling with, above Isaac the promised child of the legitimate wife, Sarah.


The same Allah had told you to consult the people of the book anytime you're in doubt.(Quran 10:94) Why did Allah not mention the name of the particular child? Obviously, Allah must have mentioned it but the editor of the Quran removed it to conceal the truth, you know how we were told in the sahih hadith that the original manuscripts of the Quran was burnt by Zaid and Uthman:





You also asked:

The Quran is disjointed and not chronological, so the fact that the good tiding was given after the sacrifice does not mean anything because it was not as if the Ismael u claimed was being referred to as the sacrificial child was killed, so if he wasn't killed, why will the good tiding make any difference?

The Torah has already explained in details about how Isaac was the promised child, and how he was the sacrificial child and Hagar and Ismael had already been sent out of Abraham's house before God asked Abraham to make a sacrifice.

You would not be this confused if you obey the word of your Allah that rather you should ask people of the book

فَإِن كُنتَ فِي شَكٍّ مِّمَّا أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ فَاسْأَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَاءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ - 10:94
So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.


وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 16:43
And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.

I don't av ur tym ,if I keep explaining u dumb head won't get

ThatFairGuy1:
You're dumb. You're quoting Bible to justify Islam? What manner of fvckery

direct your frustration to the Quran and allah who asked you to ask the people of the scriptures, i only followed what your Quran said:


10:94
So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.


وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 16:43
And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.

Akhirastriver:
I don't av ur tym ,if I keep explaining u dumb head won't get

You that know nothing about islam, i was once like you defending islam for the first 3 decades of my life before I saw the real truth.

advocatejare:
You that know nothing about islam, i was once like you defending islam for the first 3 decades of my life before I saw the real truth.

Yes it shows ,u just av little knowledge ..
If ure sure ure going to make heaven in ur present religion then y disturbing me

I'm now seeing the reason why this islamic trends are not for public to coment despite this restriction some intruders say trashes in which it will be hard to see a muslim comenting trash in christianity stuff trends.

advocatejare:
direct your frustration to the Quran and allah who asked you to ask the people of the scriptures, i only followed what your Quran said:


10:94
So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.


وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 16:43
And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.

suratu Nahl(16:43) you quoted was quoted by you out of CONTEXT. That's what we're telling you, you know NOTHING about Islam, always keep quiet.

advocatejare:
direct your frustration to the Quran and allah who asked you to ask the people of the scriptures, i only followed what your Quran said:


10:94
So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.


وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ - 16:43
And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know.

When Allah refers to previous books, he's referring to Zaburah(Da'ud), Taurah(given to Musa), Injeel(Issa, not this days Bible that was written by human being). Which is why many discrepancies are found in it. You can dare me to bring some of them out...

ThatFairGuy1:
When Allah refers to previous books, he's referring to Zaburah(Da'ud), Taurah(given to Musa), Injeel(Issa, not this days Bible that was written by human being). Which is why many discrepancies are found in it. You can dare me to bring some of them out...

So if Allah gave Musa, Daud and Jesus those books, where are those books today? So Allah couldn't preserve them?

It's a pity

ThatFairGuy1:
suratu Nahl(16:43) you quoted was quoted by you out of CONTEXT. That's what we're telling you, you know NOTHING about Islam, always keep quiet.

By the Quran standard, the children of Israel are the ones given the priesthood and scriptures and since muhammad is not a descendant of children of Israel, that means he couldn't have been a true prophet, he was fake.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُۥٓ إِسْحٰقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِى ذُرِّيَّتِهِ النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتٰبَ وَءَاتَيْنٰهُ أَجْرَهُۥ فِى الدُّنْيَا  ۖ وَإِنَّهُۥ فِى الْأَاخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous."
(QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 27)

advocatejare:
So if Allah gave Musa, Daud and Jesus those books, where are those books today? So Allah couldn't preserve them?

It's a pity

There's still ORIGINAL book of Injeel, infact it's written in Greek language. Besides all what is contained in them are now in Qur'an. That's why you'll be hearing stories from the beginning of Life.
Meanwhile, that Injeel given to Issa which is written in Greek is being prevented from public by those that sees it as threat to their falsehood.


Below is what we have in today's Bible which was written by human compared to REAL GOSPEL OF JESUS(INJEEL) and is the answer to your question

Hebrew 8:7 in different versions of the Bible. (Meanwhile, We have over 70versions of Bible. One of them is women Bible which says, JESUS IS WOMEN. So "she" is replaced with "he'', pronoun for Jesus in the Bible)

New International Version
For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

New Living Translation
If the first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a second covenant to replace it.

English Standard Version
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.

Berean Study Bible
For if that first covenant had been without fault, no place would have been sought for a second.

Berean Literal Bible
For if what was first had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second.

New American Standard Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second.

New King James Version
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.

King James Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Christian Standard Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second one.

Contemporary English Version
If the first agreement with God had been all right, there would not have been any need for another one.

Good News Translation
If there had been nothing wrong with the first covenant, there would have been no need for a second one.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second one.

International Standard Version
If the first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need to look for a second one,

NET Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, no one would have looked for a second one.

New Heart English Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For if the first one had been without fault, then there would have been no place for this second one.

GOD'S WORD Translation
If nothing had been wrong with the first promise, no one would look for another one.

New American Standard 1977
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second.

King James 2000 Bible
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

American King James Version
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

American Standard Version
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then would no place have been sought for a second.

advocatejare:
By the Quran standard, the children of Israel are the ones given the priesthood and scriptures and since muhammad is not a descendant of children of Israel, that means he couldn't have been a true prophet, he was fake.

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:

وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُۥٓ إِسْحٰقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِى ذُرِّيَّتِهِ النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتٰبَ وَءَاتَيْنٰهُ أَجْرَهُۥ فِى الدُّنْيَا  ۖ وَإِنَّهُۥ فِى الْأَاخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter a the righteous."
(QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 27)

Emboldened
For your information, THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE PREVILEDGED TO (not quoted anywhere in Qur'an and any book) since they have all the messengers and prophets from their clan, but Allah dignified the Arab with the holy Prophet as the last and leader of all the prophets. Despite the fact that Issa spoke about his successor who's bigger than him(as he said), SOME children of Israel belied SAW because he doesn't come from them(they wants him from their clan). Had it been SAW comes from them, THEY ALL WOULDN'T HAVE BELIED HIM.

advocatejare:
Sacrificing animal is not new to Islam, the pagan Abdulmuttalib, the grandfather of Muhammad whom all the Islamic sources agree was a pagan and an idol worshipper sacrificed animals to his idol.

You will soon know the name of that idol of his:




Animal sacrifice and sharing for people to eat was a pagan tradition that Muhammad brought into Islam, it has nothing to do with Abraham. Abraham offered his Ram as a burnt offering, he didn't share it among people.

You think we are discussing old testament here ?
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GalPissetzky:
the time will come for everyone so this statement is useless. no make me Bleep your imam wife for yansh in the name of muhamad o

May leprosy infest your fingers for typing this if yiu dion't repent from your stupidity.
Rubbish!

Friend22:
May leprosy infest your fingers for typing this if yiu dion't repent from your stupidity.
Rubbish!

even your allah cannot send the leprosy. you go die by okada accident.. thunder strke u and your mohamed there.
i will make sure i Bleep your imam wife for yansh so you go get sense

GalPissetzky:
even your allah cannot send the leprosy. you go die by okada accident.. thunder strke u and your mohamed there.
i will make sure i Bleep your imam wife for yansh so you go get sense

Bumbling idiot!
You are already cursed.

Friend22:
Bumbling idiot!
You are already cursed.

cursed like your useless alah and ur useless mohamed and your useless imam and your useless father abi

Cursed religion of a cursed child - Ishmael. Fuucck Allah.