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Terryishere:
They want Africans to be the testers of this drug. They are coming for you.

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sophiap:


God gave you the power of choice. He said clearly in the scriptures,

Deut 30:19, "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:"[color=#990000][/color]

You have to power to choose what you believe.

Carry your preaching go one side abeg. We have millions of Christians in Nigeria yet we are one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

amanda2013:
Funny set of people. Fear will kill some people before there time. Una no dey tire for this una conspiracy theories?

Am amazed when and why some people still have to always bring in such arguments of all these being a "CONSPIRACY THEORY". I mean are you kidding me? With all these repositories of fact, citations and references with which the internet and public domain are replete with; yet someone could suggest it's all nothing but a conspiracy theory.
Here's the point, IT IS NOT ABOUT A CONSPIRACY THEOR(IES) RATHER ITS ABOUT AN ACTUAL CONSPIRACY! One that's on a scale of global proportion and the shreds of evidence are too compelling to ignore.

Be wise!

amanda2013:
Carry your preaching go one side abeg. We have millions of Christians in Nigeria yet we are one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Ok! So whose fault is it? I bet, you suppose God see bi?
What is the correlation between having Millions of Christians in Nigeria and the state of corruption in the country?

People just lurking in the wait seeking for the slightest opportunity to vent their misguided grievances on other people whereas more valid and intelligent depositions could be made based on facts proportional the subject matter under review...else please you mustn't type!

For God sake wetin concern fish for water and why grass dry for land

I will be scared of the mark of the beast when China, Russia, usa and North Korea becomes friends...

kingxsamz:
Fvckin clowns...
If you don't want the mark of the beast, throw your damn phone away.
What makes you think they can't find various ways to put the so called mark on you?
Three years from now, everyone including you will be using 5g, and you'll still be here talking about Mark of beast when you've already collected it.
Throw your damn phone away, clowns.

Mark of beast ko.

After they have all started using 5G, the next mark of the beast will be 6G. Ah! 6G means 666. The meaning of 6G will be 6Gods.
The lists of antichrists was George Bush, Bill Clinton, Obama, Trump. The next president will be the antichrist by then.

Christianity is the religion of the stupid, for the stupid and by the stupid

petra1:


I’m of the opinion that Matt 24 is about the second coming not the rapture . At rapture we will meet him in the air but at second coming we will come down to the earth with him . Many scholars mixed the two together . But from my study , rapture starts the tribulation and the second coming closes or ends the tribulation

Matthew 24 talks about trumpet sound, gathering of the saints (not coming down of the saints) etc. Please relate it to Paul's description in Thessalonians (first or second I can't remember). Also, Christ said the great tribulation would be shortened for the sake of the elect. Why shorten it if the elect would have been removed?

petra1:


I’m of the opinion that Matt 24 is about the second coming not the rapture . At rapture we will meet him in the air but at second coming we will come down to the earth with him . Many scholars mixed the two together . But from my study , rapture starts the tribulation and the second coming closes or ends the tribulation

.read Matthew 24 well from verse 35... It shows Jesus coming down in the clouds and sending his angels to gather his elect with the sound of a trumpet.......

Great to see you quote book of Enoch and Jasher. Mmm, Christians are waking up small small.

omonla10:
I don't know why some people have sleepless night on this mark of d beast. All u need is to walk righteously with God and be rapturable.. Then u can be less concerned with 666 or any other number

Nope... if you claim to walk righteously and you cannot see the wickedness pervading our world and the governments of this world to choose
right, then it's not the righteousbess of YAH.

By the way, sebi you see all those una motivational Speakers like Ashimolowo making u-turns?

kingxsamz:

Three years from now, everyone including you will be using 5g, and you'll still be here talking about Mark of beast when you've already collected it.
Throw your damn phone away, clowns.

Mark of beast ko.

Im not talking about 5G.

I know they have paid you kobo kobo to troll online .

petra1:


Im not talking about 5G.

I know they have paid you kobo kobo to troll online .

Oh, after your pastor Chris embarrassed you, himself and his members with the whole 5g Antichrist nonsense, you're now looking for something else to talk about.
Why did you drop the 5g theory na? You later realized it was nonsense right?

kingxsamz:


Oh, after your pastor Chris embarrassed you, himself and his members with the whole 5g Antichrist nonsense,

Theres no embarrassment. He's very correct . His voice has given many boldness to speak up all over the world . Those who were afraid of the cabal are bold to confront the conspiracy. E.g ghana president.

If not for him . National assembly would have passed forced vaccination bill . He just saved your life . In a short time you all we see he was right all along

If you want to have a lecture on 5g kindly open a thread. But meanwhile . Read my opening post and watch the videos.

OtemAtum:
After they have all started using 5G, the next mark of the beast will be 6G. Ah! 6G means 666. The meaning of 6G will be 6Gods.

The thread is about the mandatory vaccine not 5G. Kindly read the post and watch the videos

petra1:


Theres no embarrassment. He's very correct . His voice has given many boldness to speak up all over the world . Those who were afraid of the cabal are bold to confront the conspiracy. E.g ghana president.

If not for him . National assembly would have passed forced vaccination bill . He just saved your life . In a short time you all we see he was right all along

If you want to have a lecture on 5g kindly open a thread. But meanwhile . Read my opening post and watch the videos.

No, lets talk about how 5g is linked with coronavirus and used to kill people. And how the lockdown was enforced so that 5g masts could be mounted.

donnie:


By the way, sebi you see all those una motivational Speakers like Ashimolowo making u-turns?

Has he . I will like to hear that o

HedwigesMaduro:


Matthew 24 talks about trumpet sound, gathering of the saints (not coming down of the saints) etc. Please relate it to Paul's description in Thessalonians (first or second I can't remember). Also, Christ said the great tribulation would be shortened for the sake of the elect. Why shorten it if the elect would have been removed?

Its a Jewish thing . Who are the elects?

petra1:

Its a Jewish thing . Who are the elects?

The elects are the saints.

HedwigesMaduro:


The elects are the saints.

The elects are jews during the tribulation.

petra1:

The elects are jews during the tribulation.

Wherever you got that idea from? Read Matt 24:31 please.

HedwigesMaduro:


Wherever you got that idea from? Read Matt 24:31 please.

The tribulation is primarily a Jewish affair. The elect are the jews.

petra1:

The tribulation is primarily a Jewish affair. The elect are the jews.

Could you please give scriptural proofs for this statement?

HedwigesMaduro:


Could you please give scriptural proofs for this statement?

Can I ask a question

Can you give the timeline . From rapture to millennial reign

HedwigesMaduro:


Yeah I know. But I've searched through the Bible over and over and it is explicitly stated by Jesus in Matthew 24 that the rapture comes "after the tribulation of those days". This is confirmed by the events in Revelation 20.

Hello sir, please where did you see the bold?

Splinz:


Hello sir, please where did you see the bold?

This is it below sir.
Matthew 24:21, 29-31

24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You may read the whole Matt 24 for better understanding. God bless you sir.

petra1:


Can I ask a question

Can you give the timeline . From rapture to millennial reign

From my understanding:
Great tribulation comes before rapture, and rapture before the millennial reign for the following scriptural reasons:

In Paul's letter to the Thessalonians he explained the events of the rapture. The first event is the resurrection of dead saints (which is the first resurrection). In Revelation 20 it is stated that those that participated in the first resurrection refused the mark of the beast and they were killed for the testimony of Christ Jesus. This shows that the great tribulation would have happened before the first resurrection, which is the first event in the rapture. And they ruled with Christ for the 1000 years (the Millennial Reign). From the above it goes: great tribulation>rapture>Millennial Reign. Shalom.

HedwigesMaduro:

This is it below sir.
Matthew 24:21, 29-31

24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You may read the whole Matt 24 for better understanding. God bless you sir.

Thank you so much for your time.

I've gone through the Olivet prophecy recorded in Matthew 24. However, I've not found a single verse even remotely talking of rapture or people being whisked away into 'heaven'. Perhaps, this rapture idea is coming from misunderstood verses like 41 & 42 of same chapter and 1 Thessalonians 4:17. This need not be.

Now, let's tie pieces of scriptures together to form a coherent whole. Of course as a rule, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little"

We'll start with Jesus arrival, as captured in Matthew 24:30 and elsewhere. It does appears like this is where a lot of people missed it, as the common thinking is that He is coming to take people to heaven or whisked them out of the earth.

Matthew 25:31-34 contains vital knowledge and readily helps in our discussion here. Actually, Matthew 25:31-34 is a continuation of the truth in Matthew 24:30-31. Remember, "...line upon line...".

Let's take note of at least 3 cardinal points in Matthew 25;

1. Throne

2. Nations

3. Kingdom prepared...

So verse 31 pictures Jesus arrival, and He sits on His glorious throne. Now, we don't have to speculate or assume where this throne will be. The bible will always interpret itself, and Luke 1:32-33 holds the answer. Yes, He will sit on the "...throne of His father David". And this is no other place but Jerusalem. A new Jerusalem is coming, where the tabernacle of God will be with man (Rev. 21:2-3).

Next we see that the nations of the earth are gathered and those faithful ones are rewarded and are told finally, to "inherit the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the earth". Does this prepared place or kingdom rings a bell? Yes, it should! Remember the prepared place in John 14:3? Oh yes...

The whole scenario, settings or events happens and revolves around no other place but the earth! Nobody is rapture anywhere, supposedly to the third heaven (John 3:13).

I have many things to discuss with you sir. But for time constraints, I'd draw the curtain here. Many thanks for your time.

HedwigesMaduro:


From my understanding:
Great tribulation comes before rapture, and rapture before the millennial reign for the following scriptural reasons:

In Paul's letter to the Thessalonians he explained the events of the rapture. The first event is the resurrection of dead saints (which is the first resurrection). In Revelation 20 it is stated that those that participated in the first resurrection refused the mark of the beast and they were killed for the testimony of Christ Jesus. This shows that the great tribulation would have happened before the first resurrection, which is the first event in the rapture. And they ruled with Christ for the 1000 years (the Millennial Reign). From the above it goes: great tribulation>rapture>Millennial Reign. Shalom.

I will go through and revert

omonla10:
I don't know why some people have sleepless night on this mark of d beast. All u need is to walk righteously with God and be rapturable.. Then u can be less concerned with 666 or any other number

Thank you ohh

A Christian should always be prepared for rapture all these are not necessary.

Missyajoke:
A Christian should always be prepared for rapture all these are not necessary.

Read

petra1:


Read

Okay